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Post by chancer on Jun 22, 2018 13:24:58 GMT
Thanks buck02!
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 22, 2018 14:38:36 GMT
Jaysus lads ..... all this talk about bars and music is distracting – in the words of Jackson Browne we must “remember why we came”.
I hope there are about 4 changes to the team. The team against Clare was not the finished article. Also with the super 8’s and injuries etc the team must get used to players coming in without effecting the performance. I would like to see Maher getting a run – he is one of the older players who could prove invaluable later on.
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Post by peanuts on Jun 22, 2018 15:06:38 GMT
Jaysus lads ..... all this talk about bars and music is distracting – in the words of Jackson Browne we must “remember why we came”. I hope there are about 4 changes to the team. The team against Clare was not the finished article. Also with the super 8’s and injuries etc the team must get used to players coming in without effecting the performance. I would like to see Maher getting a run – he is one of the older players who could prove invaluable later on. What other changes would you like to see?
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 22, 2018 15:11:57 GMT
I wont be surprised if Cork try to rough up the younger Kerry players to see how it works.
And given that it is likely to happen during the july games anyway, they might as well get used to it.
Cork always had a few lads at the back who were up for administering plenty of punishment....going back to Seamus Looney, Niall Cahalane, Conor Counihan, Tony Davis, Jimmy Kerrigan and the likes of Cadogan and Noel oLeary in recent times.
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 22, 2018 15:51:31 GMT
Jaysus lads ..... all this talk about bars and music is distracting – in the words of Jackson Browne we must “remember why we came”. I hope there are about 4 changes to the team. The team against Clare was not the finished article. Also with the super 8’s and injuries etc the team must get used to players coming in without effecting the performance. I would like to see Maher getting a run – he is one of the older players who could prove invaluable later on. What other changes would you like to see? Its not that any players from the Clare game deserve to be dropped - its that we need a about 20 players who can step seamlessley into team. I would like to see McCarthy, G Crowley and maybe O'Beaglaoich.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 22, 2018 16:28:56 GMT
Safe drive tomorrow lads, The excitement of watching Kerry never dies. I'm convinced Kerry will put down a marker tomorrow.
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Post by onlykerry on Jun 22, 2018 17:54:45 GMT
On the day ticket prices are +€5 - dont forget to buy before midnight today.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Jun 22, 2018 19:11:03 GMT
Beagloaich for shannahan only change from Clare match. Shannahan must feel hard done by
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 22, 2018 19:13:58 GMT
Beagloaich for shannahan only change from Clare match. Shannahan must feel hard done by How anyone could be dropped after the last day is beyond me. Ronan didint deserve to be dropped.
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Post by peanuts on Jun 22, 2018 19:19:15 GMT
Fionn fitzgerald, Crowley and Mikey Geaney not on bench from last game. Replaced by Killian and the 2 Sullivan’s dingle.
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Post by statistician on Jun 22, 2018 19:19:32 GMT
Kerry Senior team to play Cork in the Munster Senior Football Championship Final tomorrow at 7.00 PM
1. Shane Murphy (C ) Dr Crokes
2. Jason FoleyBallydonoghue 3. Peter Crowley Laune Rangers 4. Brian Ó Beaglaoich An Ghaeltacht
5. Paul Murphy Rathmore 6. Tadhg Morley Templenoe 7. Gavin White Dr Crokes
8. David Moran Kerins O’Rahillys 9. Jack Barry Na Gaeil
10. Micheal Burns Dr Crokes 11. Seán O’Shea Kenmare 12. Stephen O’Brien Kenmare
13. David Clifford Fossa 14. Paul Geaney Dingle 15. James O’Donoghue Killarney Legion
Substitutes:
16. Brian Kelly Killarney Legion 17. Kieran Donaghy Austin Stacks 18. Ronan Shanahan Austin Stacks 19. Barry John Keane Kerins O’Rahillys 20. Kevin McCarthy Kilcummin 21. Anthony Maher Duagh 22. Darran O’Sullivan Glenbeigh/Glencar 23. Mark Griffin St Michael’s Foilmore 24. Killian Young Renard 25. Tom O’Sullivan Dingle 26.Barry O’Sullivan Dingle Bainistíocht:
Bainisteoir: Éamonn Fitzmaurice (Finuge)
Roghnóirí: Mikey Sheehy (Austin Stacks), Pádraig Corcoran (Dingle), Liam Hassett (Laune Rangers), Maurice Fitzgerald (St Marys).
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jun 22, 2018 19:29:02 GMT
Fionn fitzgerald, Crowley and Mikey Geaney not on bench from last game. Replaced by Killian and the 2 Sullivan’s dingle. What has happened Crowley I was rea lot impressed with him in the early rounds of the league.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 19:29:20 GMT
Tough on shanahan alright, good to see more midfield cover on the bench
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jun 22, 2018 19:37:50 GMT
Met a Rebel here in Donegal today and he had a good one for me - regaled of a day in Fitzgerald when they were well ahead and the exits were opened 10 mins from the long whistle - a Corkman roars 'close the gates and make 'em watch'. Ah sure we'll now return the compliment!
Re changes and while Ronan is a star in the making, if they made none then we would also complain, maybe it was a toss of a coin vs Clare. Also no 'extended panel' mentioned.
Exciting selection or what, that is a new team and the pipeline is feeding through, also noticed that three of our biggest (Moran, Donaghy and Maher) are hanging in. Currans is an interesting place to be these days.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 22, 2018 20:00:47 GMT
Delighted that Barry o'Sullivan is featuring in the 26.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 22, 2018 20:03:57 GMT
Fionn fitzgerald, Crowley and Mikey Geaney not on bench from last game. Replaced by Killian and the 2 Sullivan’s dingle. Between now and the end of the season i expect that about 20 names will feature on every panel and lots of different names will fill the other 6 spots from game to game. This is great in my view.
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Post by veteran on Jun 22, 2018 21:20:43 GMT
I am surprised that Ronan Shanahan has been dropped. I am a fan. I cannot recall him ever playing poorly for the county. I know EF places a lot of emphasis on what happens in training but surely what happens in the course of a match is more important. I am also a fan of young Briain but you are sacrificing a more physical player to accommodate him in a backline which is not endowed with physical players . Of course it maybe Brian is selected with a specific task in mind. Could it be that EF expects Sean Powter or Paul Kerrigan to start and that he needs extra pace to counteract that possibility.
I am disappointed that Gavin Crowley is not on the panel, another physical defender.
I thought that Anthony Maher might be started because he usually has been too good for Aiden Walsh.
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Post by kerryexile on Jun 22, 2018 21:24:43 GMT
The difference between Shanahan and O'Beaglaoich is a tight man marker vs a defender who likes to intercept and attack. Both types of defenders have their benefits. This time, presumably based on what he sees in training, Eamonn has gone for Brian.
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Post by dc84 on Jun 22, 2018 21:33:54 GMT
Im liking the narrative here its people wondering why players are left out rather than included! Positive signs, tough on the boys who have lost out but its a 30 man game now with such a congested high intensity super 8s coming up
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Post by yourholiness on Jun 23, 2018 8:13:55 GMT
Going to my first Munster Final since 2006 . Really looking forward it . Kerry to win a more competitive match than form indicates . Janey...jim gavin sending an advance party to check out puc in advance of the super 8 game between dublin and cork. 🤔 Well my last scouting mission didn’t go too badly for Kerry as they went on to win to All-Irelands on the bounce !
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 23, 2018 10:44:36 GMT
Cork must start as they mean to go on to disrupt Kingdom Kerry’s ability to build early leads has killed the Rebels in recent years about 6 hours ago Malachy Clerkin 0 The redoubtable footballers who represent Cork in tonight’s Munster final may or may not be delighted to know that this isn’t the worst streak by a Cork team against Kerry in the long history of games between the two counties. It isn’t the second, third or fourth worst either – and won’t be even if they lose again tonight.
They haven’t had a win against Kerry since 2012, losing four and drawing one of their most recent encounters. But they still have a ways to go to match the poor unfortunates who had to come up against Mick O’Dwyer’s teams in late ’70s and early ’80s – they had to endure 10 games without a win between 1975 and 1983 – although they did manage a couple of draws.
Go back further still and Cork didn’t register a win in seven games between 1956 and 1966.
For the streak of all streaks, though, you have to go back to the beginning of the last century. Cork lost 17 games in a row to Kerry between 1909 and 1942, only bringing it to an end with a draw in the 1943 championship and a win in the replay. The past few years have been rough on the current generation of Cork players but they needn’t worry about making that sort of history. The worm will turn, surely to God.
If and when it does, it will most likely be because they’ve overturned the pattern of their games against Eamonn Fitzmaurice’s side. In the five games they’ve played since Fitzmaurice’s first Munster final in 2013, Kerry have won four in a brutally similar manner.
The way of it has generally been Kerry bouncing out to an early lead, Cork steadying the ship for a bit, Kerry kicking on coming up to half-time and putting the game to bed after the break.
Last year was a classic of the genre. Kerry were 0-5 to 0-1 up after 10 minutes, playing some as-you-like-it football, fast-moving and accurate both in front of goal and approaching it. They kicked four points from four shots from play before Cork even put together an attack.
Chasing the game is no picnic against Kerry but Cork have become well practiced in it. And so they gradually grew into the game as the half wore on, with Ian Maguire coming to the fore in midfield. A game that had looked like it was getting away from them was instead brought to heel, with the sides swapping scores equally from the 10th minute to half-time, at which the scoreline stood at a respectable 0-11 to 0-7.
Entirely predictable The entirely predictable ease with which Kerry filed the game away after the break surprised nobody, all the same. The burst from the blocks again after half-time with two points from Stephen O’Brien, one from David Moran and one from James O’Donoghue after a goal chance was saved. Just like that, in a game that was just about viable at half-time, Kerry were suddenly eight points up in the 38th minute. Nothing left to say.
It’s no accident that the one time Cork have been able to upset the usual chain of events, the 2015 Munster final ended in a draw. That day, it was Cork who made the early start – bounding out to a 1-1 to 0-0 lead after 10 minutes. It was the one time they weren’t losing at the 20-minute mark.
It was the only time they out-goaled Kerry, knocking in three to their two. And it was the only time they owned the period after half-time, outscoring Kerry 1-6 to 0-2 between the start of the second half and the 50th minute.
If they are to make anything of tonight’s final in Páirc Uí Chaoimh, the one stat above all they have to turn around is the weight of minutes they spend chasing the game. The overwhelming feature of their last five matches is the sheer amount of time Kerry have spent in the lead.
The numbers here are a little rough and don’t make variations for stoppage-time since no leads changed hands in those periods (Fionn Fitzgerald’s point in the drawn game in 2015 was the last kick of the game). But they give a pretty good indication of the holes Kerry have dug and tossed Cork into over the course of the streak.
If we take the five games as adding up to 350 minutes, Kerry have led for 273 of them. By contrast, Cork have been in the lead for only 27 minutes across the five games. Take out the drawn game and their total minutes spent in the lead during the four defeats is a paltry four. They were behind for 67 minutes in 2013, 58 in 2014, 51 in the 2015 replay and from the moment, 12 seconds into last year’s game, when Paul Geaney pointed on the turn as Kerry scored off the throw-in.
The long and short of it is that Kerry have established a template for putting notions out of Cork’s head – quickly, ruthlessly and painfully. If Ronan McCarthy’s side are to have any chance tonight, they need to disrupt it from the start.
Last five Munster SFC final meetings between Cork and Kerry
2017 Kerry 1-23 Cork 0-15
2015 Kerry 2-15 Cork 3-12
2015 Kerry 1-11 Cork 1-6 (Replay)
2014 Kerry 0-24 Cork 0-12
2013 Kerry 1-16 Cork 0-17
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Post by playitfair on Jun 23, 2018 11:12:41 GMT
The difference between Shanahan and O'Beaglaoich is a tight man marker vs a defender who likes to intercept and attack. Both types of defenders have their benefits. This time, presumably based on what he sees in training, Eamonn has gone for Brian. I remember in the Mcgrath cup last o’beaglaoch picked up Mark Collins. I thought he did well so it may be s case of horses for courses.
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Post by glengael on Jun 23, 2018 11:22:58 GMT
Best of luck and safe travel all. Go early to support the minors- they are our future and not a sideshow from the pub. Park carefully and respectfully. Nobody has a inalienable right to drive to the door Stad De Frank except the teams.
Ciarra Abu.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jun 23, 2018 19:35:13 GMT
WELL!! The long grass I mentioned earlier has been well and truly MOWN.
Too many of our boys to mention bar 2.
David Moran looked fit and hungry(Thank God)Turned Kerrigan when the game was won.
And Mark Griffin first defender in.
All good here in my small little dwelling in Cork.
Maith Sibh Ciarraí
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Post by aranteorainn on Jun 23, 2018 20:20:33 GMT
I would have told ye to stay at home but maybe ye spent a few shekels in Cork.
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Post by thebluepanther on Jun 23, 2018 20:27:50 GMT
Excellent performance, EF had the team primed , they looked hungry and in the end it was a total mismatch. This is a very young Kerry team who easily bullied Cork and have now sent a message that they will be around for a while. Cork on the otherhand were embarrassing . Kerrigan looks out of shape and a few others not up to the pace of the game. But you can only beat what's in front of you and job well done tonight.
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Post by homerj on Jun 23, 2018 20:55:21 GMT
Managing the super 8s now is our biggest challenge and keeping fresh and firing.
We will have 5 games in the space of a few weeks if we were to make the final and thats going to challenge all teams.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Jun 23, 2018 21:14:42 GMT
Excellent performance, EF had the team primed , they looked hungry and in the end it was a total mismatch. This is a very young Kerry team who easily bullied Cork and have now sent a message that they will be around for a while. Cork on the otherhand were embarrassing . Kerrigan looks out of shape and a few others not up to the pace of the game. But you can only beat what's in front of you and job well done tonight. Cant argue with a lot of that BP but it was our more senior guys I was impressed with today.
Moran, Geaney especially. Crowley and Morley did well behind. Our younger backs worked their way into the game too but there will be bigger fish to fry later on.
To have James O not the centre of attention will only help us later on also.
We are a work in progress and 2019 is where we will peak to stop the 5 in a row.
All to play for . The Super8s will be intriguing to say the least.
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Post by Mickmack on Jun 23, 2018 22:35:54 GMT
I was raging when Ruairi Deane got the black card. The game ended as a contest then.
I fully expected Cork to invoke the spirit of West Cork men like Calahane, Counihan and a few more and rattle a few of the younger kerry players but it never happened.
I will have to watch the recording before commenting much more apart from wondering why the old brigade were brought on a subs...i mean we know what bjk does in these type of games.
Very hard to know where kerry stand just now.
Its not good for the game to see cork slip back so far...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 1:01:17 GMT
A very good performance today from Kerry. Kerry looked in great shape. They looked up for it. They looked hungry.
The Backs were excellent I think the tackling was very good today. They hunted in packs and didn't the Cork forwards any room. There was great work rate today from the whole team.
They will face tougher tests but it was a good result today.
On Cork. They were a disgrace. The worst Cork performance I think i've seen. Kerry put it up to them today and they fell apart. No Leadership, No Heart, some of them just looked like they didn't want to be there. They have some soul searching to do.
So far so good for Kerry. We'll wait and see.
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