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Post by kerrygold on Nov 24, 2017 15:55:06 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 25, 2017 11:14:14 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 14:39:22 GMT
Anyone at Nemo Crokes game? Crokes struggling?
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 14:59:53 GMT
Marty Duffy completely ignoring the black card rule all day long!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 15:11:23 GMT
Crokes running out of time and 5 down
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 15:23:59 GMT
Shock result in Cork. Must have been a Crokes malfunction. Up next on TG4.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 15:29:07 GMT
Extra time in the west, very good game of football.
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Post by baurtregaum on Nov 26, 2017 15:35:04 GMT
Crokes not at races and out fought by Nemo. Defence was suspect when ran at, Keeper for Crokes made 1 or 2 great saves. KOL sending off did not help. Ref was a joke, Kerrigan led with elbow in a tackle toward the end, very dangerous, linesman indicated this to Duffy and he ignored it. Nemo were never going to just roll over. It makes the rest of the championship very interesting.
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Post by baurtregaum on Nov 26, 2017 15:37:24 GMT
I would also add that that pitch in Cork is the worst I have seen at an intercounty venue in a long time. Taking a penalty would have been farcical.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 15:38:49 GMT
Big win for Moorefield in Aughrim. Novel Leinster final v St. Loman's. Meath club football showing again to be weak.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Nov 26, 2017 15:47:51 GMT
It was dire stuff by Crokes today. Never really showed up. Nemo are a good outfit, but Crokes never really got going today. Too many mistakes. On the bright side An Ghaeltacht cruised on.
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Post by dod2102 on Nov 26, 2017 16:56:26 GMT
There’s that notorious crokes bottle again... Crokes at least can play the east kerry championship now
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Post by whiteflagraised on Nov 26, 2017 17:28:31 GMT
Crokes totally out thought and out fought. No excuses here, the better team won and it could have been more. Tactically nemo got their tactics spot on by bringing players back and then running at pace and it worked well. Nemo have the tradition and didn't look to be phased one little bit by Crokes. Crokes looked very porous in defence and they looked very uncomfortable when being ran at. How crokes management left luke quinn on connolly for that length of time is astonishing.
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 26, 2017 17:33:51 GMT
I for one am glad that Crokes arrogates, refusing to play in EK, came back to bite them this afternoon. No reason what so ever why they couldn't have played last weekend.
Also anyone who thinks Crokes play the game the ''right way'' should look at what they were up to today, and that's something they do in every game.
On the match its very clear they have no back up plan for when they go behind in games. Also very clear they cant tackle to save their lives.
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Post by taggert on Nov 26, 2017 17:36:53 GMT
Not unlike Kerry, Crokes totally exposed when run at, too many players with a lack of pace. Nemo full value here. They played on the edge and beyond it at times and completely rattled Crokes. Very few Crokes players came away with any credit save for White and Looney and Murphy perhaps. 2 slow midfield merchants and a really slight centre forward allowed Nemo run from deep and this killed Crokes on numerous occasions.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 17:37:09 GMT
Crokes cant have any excuses, out played on the day.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 17:45:36 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 17:48:06 GMT
Three provincial championships wrapped today with a week left in November. Crazy system that sees the conclusion of this championship carried out to the middle of March.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 26, 2017 17:52:23 GMT
Well I for one am glad Kerry will have the crokes players available for the league.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2017 17:53:55 GMT
There is surely enough in the Nemo management set up to put a spanner in the works of Crokes. They will surely try to disrupt Shanes quick restarts ...which led to about six handy points v SK. I think Crokes are in for a big battle here assuming Nemo go about it the right way. It would be very interesting to see how Burns, Kiely etc cope with a defensive system that puts men behind the ball and hits on the break. I thought there was a bit of the old swagger back in Nemo in the county final After 20 minutes Shane Murphy could be see throwing his hands in the air in frustration at the lack of options available to him from a restart. I would say Tomas had a bit of influence in the Nemo approach. This could have been a rout only for great defending by Payne and Murphy to prevent about 4 goals. It's hard to win the all Ireland and twice as hard to retain it. Crokes ran out of road today. It's a bit of a worry though that lads that are marked down as future Kerry seniors look so small and light and are easily blown out of it. They had it far too easy in the county final v SK. Corofin are a clinical outfit....probably with 40% of the play they beat Castlebar. Castlebar didn't have the nous or class upfront to turn their possession into scores. I see where Eanna o Connor kicked a rake of frees today as Moorefield made in to the final in leinster. Slaughtneill are Ulster champs again. Anyway, this great competition continues to deliver. Crokes were fine champions last year. They can have no excuses today
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Post by taggert on Nov 26, 2017 17:54:23 GMT
What players should be in with Kerry though?
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Post by mossie on Nov 26, 2017 18:09:35 GMT
Crokes should have played last weekend, they have a big panel and a 2nd team that is very strong so they could have left off a few who were carrying knocks if they had a concern in this regard
Slaughtneil have a football team full of dual players for feck sake, switch from once code to the other from wk to wk.
Last weekend Ballyduff played a NK hurling final and a NK football league semi final on the one weekend, a week later they won a NK football champion ship semi final
Hard to be critical of Crokes as they have a great record in the O'Donoghue cup but I think they called this one wrong. A decision they didn't make easily or lightly I imagine
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2017 18:09:48 GMT
I for one am glad that Crokes arrogates, refusing to play in EK, came back to bite them this afternoon. No reason what so ever why they couldn't have played last weekend. Also anyone who thinks Crokes play the game the ''right way'' should look at what they were up to today, and that's something they do in every game. On the match its very clear they have no back up plan for when they go behind in games. Also very clear they cant tackle to save their lives. Their refusal to play last weekend was justified by their tired performance today. It's a pity such a great club were not facilitated. Is there something big on in Killarney on 9th December that meant the divisional final couldn't be played on that day. Is Santy coming or whats happening.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 18:14:28 GMT
There is surely enough in the Nemo management set up to put a spanner in the works of Crokes. They will surely try to disrupt Shanes quick restarts ...which led to about six handy points v SK. I think Crokes are in for a big battle here assuming Nemo go about it the right way. It would be very interesting to see how Burns, Kiely etc cope with a defensive system that puts men behind the ball and hits on the break. I thought there was a bit of the old swagger back in Nemo in the county final After 20 minutes Shane Murphy could be see throwing his hands in the air in frustration at the lack of options available to him from a restart. I would say Tomas had a bit of influence in the Nemo approach. This could have been a rout only for great defending by Payne and Murphy to prevent about 4 goals. It's hard to win the all Ireland and twice as hard to retain it. Crokes ran out of road today. It's a bit of a worry though that lads that are marked down as future Kerry seniors look so small and light and are easily blown out of it. They had it far too easy in the county final v SK. Corofin are a clinical outfit....probably with 40% of the play they beat Castlebar. Castlebar didn't have the nous or class upfront to turn their possession into scores. I see where Eanna o Connor kicked a rake of frees today as Moorefield made in to the final in leinster. Slaughtneill are Ulster champs again. Anyway, this great competition continues to deliver. Crokes were fine champions last year. They can have no excuses today Cant agree with this. SK gave Crokes plenty of it in the county final and weren't too far away.
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Post by mossie on Nov 26, 2017 18:14:36 GMT
[quote author=" hurlingman" source="/post/212306/thread" timestamp="1511717631" On the match its very clear they have no back up plan for when they go behind in games. Also very clear they cant tackle to save their lives. [/quote] they don't go behind too often, think lack of been in the situation they were in today too often kind of affected them
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 26, 2017 18:16:36 GMT
I for one am glad that Crokes arrogates, refusing to play in EK, came back to bite them this afternoon. No reason what so ever why they couldn't have played last weekend. Also anyone who thinks Crokes play the game the ''right way'' should look at what they were up to today, and that's something they do in every game. On the match its very clear they have no back up plan for when they go behind in games. Also very clear they cant tackle to save their lives. Their refusal to play last weekend was justified by their tired performance today. It's a pity such a great club were not facilitated. Is there something big on in Killarney on 9th December that meant the divisional final couldn't be played on that day. Is Santy coming or whats happening. it was the right call from the EK board. People complain about playing games late in the year and when a board do something to stop it some people still aren't happy. Also i think Crokes are going on a team holiday in the next week or two, so i dont know when they thought i could be played. We're always hearing about how they have such a great panel, why not sue them? Ballyduff who would have a much smaller pick are playing both football and hurling week in week out without complaint, what makes Croke think they should get special treatment?
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2017 18:20:15 GMT
After 20 minutes Shane Murphy could be see throwing his hands in the air in frustration at the lack of options available to him from a restart. I would say Tomas had a bit of influence in the Nemo approach. This could have been a rout only for great defending by Payne and Murphy to prevent about 4 goals. It's hard to win the all Ireland and twice as hard to retain it. Crokes ran out of road today. It's a bit of a worry though that lads that are marked down as future Kerry seniors look so small and light and are easily blown out of it. They had it far too easy in the county final v SK. Corofin are a clinical outfit....probably with 40% of the play they beat Castlebar. Castlebar didn't have the nous or class upfront to turn their possession into scores. I see where Eanna o Connor kicked a rake of frees today as Moorefield made in to the final in leinster. Slaughtneill are Ulster champs again. Anyway, this great competition continues to deliver. Crokes were fine champions last year. They can have no excuses today Cant agree with this. SK gave Crokes plenty of it in the county final and weren't too far away. SK gave Crokes plenty of it as you say and missed a few scores at a crucial stage near the end but what I meant by having it too easy is that a half dozen handy scores came directly from Shane rolling restarts to an unmarked defender. Take away those 6 points (as nemo did) and SK would probably have won it.
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 26, 2017 18:22:54 GMT
Ok, fair enough. Point taken.
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Post by leesider on Nov 26, 2017 20:04:50 GMT
Wouldn't it be gas if Tomas O Se won a club All-Ireland with a Cork club after failing to win one with a Kerry one? Stranger things have happened.
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Post by veteran on Nov 26, 2017 20:37:50 GMT
It is a long time since Corkes played such agricultural football. They were reduced to that by the supremacy of Nemo., who gave a wonderful exhibition. Shane Murphy saved Crokes from being embarrassed.
On of the noteworthy features of today' match was the problem Crokes had with their kicksout. Shane is a top man for directing these but that facility comes to nought if there is not plenty of movement from outfield players. In. that respect , Nemo had their preparations to a tee.
Most of us castigated EF for sticking with Shane Enright against Andy Moran. How in the name of goodness could Pat O'Shea watch Luke Quinn being dismembered by Luke Connolly for over fifty minutes before rescuing him from his torture.
Very few Crokes lads, Shane Murphy excepted, made a strong case for Kerry senior expoaure next year. Gavin White looked very good bursting up field but how good are his defensive qualities? One consolation for Kerry aspirants is that they now can concentrate on those ambitions. That should help them.
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