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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 19:52:14 GMT
Great performance by Kerry. northkerry5 good call you said they would win by 8 and they did it by 10. Fair play. Hopefully now they can keep it going.
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Post by keane on May 10, 2017 19:55:54 GMT
Anyone know the ins and outs of the AFL rookie rules? Any reason why Clifford couldn't be gone already if he wanted to be since he's finished with school and all?
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 10, 2017 20:05:26 GMT
Says David Clifford scored a sideline...
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Post by northkerry5 on May 10, 2017 20:26:21 GMT
Great win by Kerry tonight. David Clifford with 2-8 more than the whole cork team. Is this Kerry team a one man team ?
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 10, 2017 20:38:42 GMT
Great win by Kerry tonight. David Clifford with 2-8 more than the whole cork team. Is this Kerry team a one man team ? One better than a no man team, this will even out as they get crafty in response to him being targeted, but any lad that can do that will always have a bright future, is he a Gooch in the making? Also great to see Uosis pull off two good saves, goalie a good insurance as minor games prone to wobble, moreover with one star man, congrats to all and the auld show is back on the road!
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Post by Mickmack on May 10, 2017 20:42:28 GMT
I fear an outbreak of the "kerry ingredient" dysentery
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 10, 2017 20:47:53 GMT
I fear an outbreak of the "kerry ingredient" dysentery There's always wan, a throw back flawed hybrid, the wan you'd have hoped would have gotten away! Anyway and in praise of all things Kerry here's a timely report by our own Kerry's Eye, Rebels blitzed in their own backyard.
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Post by Mickmack on May 10, 2017 21:07:40 GMT
Unstoppable Clifford grabs 2-8 as Kingdom see off Cork 1 Wednesday, May 10, 2017 - 08:43 pm By Eoghan Cormican, Páirc Uí Rinn
Kerry 2-17 Cork 1-10
For the second time in as many months, a Kerry team travelled to Páirc Uí Rinn and all but obliterated the home outfit. There was 16-points between the two counties at the end of the Munster U21 final in late April and while this Munster minor semi-final win wasn’t as comprehensive, it was every bit as impressive.
David Clifford proved the headline act, the Firies full-forward terrorising the Cork defence during an hour’s fare where he helped himself to 2-8, just 0-3 of that total arriving via the dead ball.
The travelling defence also played a significant role in advancing the reigning All-Ireland champions into the Munster decider, routinely hunting down Cork forwards in packs of three and four.
That said, Cork engineered the dream start for themselves when Evan Murphy put the ball in the back of the Kerry net 10 seconds after the throw-in. It was to prove a false dawn, however, as the home side failed to add to their tally during the subsequent quarter of an hour.
The visitors, during this period, kicked 1-6 on the bounce as David Clifford and Donal O’Sullivan led the Cork defence on a merry dance.
This pair landed the three points which cancelled out Murphy’s early rocket and it was Clifford who propelled Kerry in front on seven minutes, holding off full-back William Ronan and slipping the ball past ‘keeper Kevin McMahon.
The full-forward would also provide their second goal on 26 minutes, finishing a sweeping move involving Brian Friel and Fiachra Clifford. The gap was seven come the break and it might have been a tad more manageable from a Cork perspective had two scoreable chances on the stroke of half-time not been kicked wide.
Two from David Clifford and Donnchadh O’Sullivan’s first increased the difference between the sides upon the restart. Cork’s day was done when Kerry ‘keeper Deividas Uosis kept out a Damien Gore penalty on 42 minutes. He made a second superb save later on, this time denying Mark Keane.
Two more from Clifford and a Jack Griffin point completed the 10-point rout for the Kingdom.
Cork's Shane Hickey under pressure from Adam Donoghue of Kerry. Picture: Inpho Scorers for Kerry: D Clifford (2-8, 0-3 frees); Donal O’Sullivan (0-1 free), Donnchadh O’Sullivan (0-2 each); A Donoghue, F Clifford, C Gammell, J Griffin (0-1 each).
Scorers for Cork: E Murphy (1-2, 0-1 ’45); D Gore (0-4, 0-2 frees); C Myers Murray (0-3); M Keane (0-1).
Kerry: D Uisis (Dingle); R O’Neill (Na Gaeil), C O’Donoghue (Glenflesk), M Potts (Dr Crokes); C Gammell (Legion), E Horan (Scartaglen), N Donohue (Firies); B Mahony (St Senan’s), D O’Connor (Na Gaeil); A Donoghue (Castleisland Desmonds), B Friel (Rathmore), F Clifford (Laune Rangers); Donnchadh O’Sullivan (Firies), D Clifford (Fossa), Donal O’Sullivan (Kilgarvan).
Subs: J Griffin (Dr Crokes) for Friel (38); M Slattery (Austin Stacks) for Donnchadh O’Sullivan (47); C O’Reilly (Austin Stacks) for F Clifford (48); P Warren (Gneeveguilla) for Donal O’Sullivan (55); S O’Leary (Kilcummin) for O’Neill (59); M O’Leary (Renard) for Gammell (60).
Cork: K McMahon (Kilshannig); L Finn (Mitchelstown), W Ronan (Kilmurry), D Ward (Douglas); J Harrington (Adrigole), P O’Driscoll (Ilen Rovers), J McCarthy (Carrigaline); M Keane (Mitchelstown), R Walsh (Kanturk); E Murphy (Dromtariffe), C O’Callaghan (Éire Óg), J Murphy (Éire Óg); M Cronin (Nemo Rangers), D Gore (Kilmacabea), C O’Mahony (Mitchelstown).
Subs: C Myers Murray (St Finbarr’s) for O’Mahony (22 mins, inj); C Barrett (St Finbarr’s) for Murphy (HT); D O’Mahony (Knocknagree) for Ronan (39); S Hickey (Millstreet) for Walsh, S Meehan (Kiskeam) for McCarthy (both 42); R O’Driscoll (Garnish) for Harrington (45, bc);
Referee: A Kissane (Waterford
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Post by himself on May 10, 2017 22:27:16 GMT
This is very far from a one man team. In fact, this was close on a perfect team display against a very good Cork side. Cork had some great players on the field - Finn, Mark Keane (outstanding in midfield, Murphy, and Gore ate real quality, but after a powerful start (goal after 15 seconds) they never landed a glover on Kerry. Deividas Uosis made two superb saves.Defence was rock solid, forwards were really sharp (they all scored) and Kerry won midfield hands down - not something I expected. I have to say that I really loved this performance, this was simply great football.Kudos to all involved and thank you.
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Post by homerj on May 10, 2017 22:40:57 GMT
Great result and well done to all.
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Post by Jo90 on May 10, 2017 22:56:31 GMT
There's nothing in the schedule for tg4 next Monday, thought I'd get to see the highlights.
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Post by greengold35 on May 10, 2017 23:16:49 GMT
All round superb display - defensively solid, Diarmuid O'Connor outstanding but what can you say about David Clifford? He was magnificent again but the naivety of the Cork sideline had to be seen to be believed!! It was like watching a reprise of Jameso vs Shields in 2014 - Clifford was the stand out minor last year, thought they would double team him, play a sweeper - no, nothing!! Incredible! Great team effort, all played their part, the chief tormentor was Clifford though - 2-08, 2-05 from play - goalkeeper with two outstanding saves, the penalty if scored would have left just 6 points in it and with 20 mins left on the clock - great to win again in PUR!
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Post by sullyschoice on May 10, 2017 23:29:33 GMT
Was this streamed anywhere
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2017 7:58:07 GMT
Sounds like a great performance from the minors, no easy place to go and get a result. Although it is hard to get excited about great Kerry minors anymore with Kennelly lurking in the background.
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Post by buck02 on May 11, 2017 8:20:45 GMT
Ah give it a rest Kerrygold.
A fantastic result, well done to Peter Keane and his players for ensuring they will be playing football into August. Clare in a Munster Final isnt going to be a test so it will likely to be the semi final before they are challenged (probably against Galway).
The systems in place in the county now mean that will we consistently have a minor team more than capable of winning the All Ireland.
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Post by inforthebreaks on May 11, 2017 8:31:01 GMT
Unstoppable Clifford grabs 2-8 as Kingdom see off Cork 1 Wednesday, May 10, 2017 - 08:43 pm By Eoghan Cormican, Páirc Uí Rinn Kerry 2-17 Cork 1-10 For the second time in as many months, a Kerry team travelled to Páirc Uí Rinn and all but obliterated the home outfit. There was 16-points between the two counties at the end of the Munster U21 final in late April and while this Munster minor semi-final win wasn’t as comprehensive, it was every bit as impressive. David Clifford proved the headline act, the Firies full-forward terrorising the Cork defence during an hour’s fare where he helped himself to 2-8, just 0-3 of that total arriving via the dead ball. not sure what paper this report is from... but surely if they looked at a programme they'd manage to get his club right.....
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Post by inforthebreaks on May 11, 2017 8:39:13 GMT
they will surely have to review how the munster minor championship plays out. Clare will be beaten by Kerry in the Munster final, their second loss to Kerry in the championship, and still be in an all ireland quarter final. Cork meanwhile lose one game and are out of everything. It's a ludicrous situation in fairness. The same happened Kerry a few years back. They lost to Tipp twice in Munster yet made (I think) an All Ireland semi final. but whoever loses the munster semi is gone.
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Post by homerj on May 11, 2017 9:02:09 GMT
they will surely have to review how the munster minor championship plays out. Clare will be beaten by Kerry in the Munster final, their second loss to Kerry in the championship, and still be in an all ireland quarter final. Cork meanwhile lose one game and are out of everything. It's a ludicrous situation in fairness. The same happened Kerry a few years back. They lost to Tipp twice in Munster yet made (I think) an All Ireland semi final. but whoever loses the munster semi is gone. its absolutely terrible, im convinced it cost Kerry and All ireland in 2011 and perhaps Cork would have got to the all ireland final too in 2014.
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Post by onlykerry on May 11, 2017 9:04:22 GMT
they will surely have to review how the munster minor championship plays out. Clare will be beaten by Kerry in the Munster final, their second loss to Kerry in the championship, and still be in an all ireland quarter final. Cork meanwhile lose one game and are out of everything. It's a ludicrous situation in fairness. The same happened Kerry a few years back. They lost to Tipp twice in Munster yet made (I think) an All Ireland semi final. but whoever loses the munster semi is gone. Not only did they get to an AI SF but Tipp who beat us twice were themselves beaten in the QF and Kerry were still alive to the end of August. Current system is harsh but probably a token to the other Munster counties. Great win for Kerry and hope they can keep their heads and take each game as it comes - our big win at u21 over Cork ended up being a damp squib. Beating Cork is always sweet but winning the competition must remain the focus.
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Post by veteran on May 11, 2017 9:06:51 GMT
Kerry 2-17 Cork 1-10 HT 2-9 1-5
Well, it is fair to say that the Kerry minors sparkled as brightly as the brilliant sun overhead. There were a couple of dark moments, only a couple mind you, at the start of the game. Playing away from home, those couple of dark moments at the off could well have undermined young lads. Not these boys. They swatted away that impertinent fly with disdain, and immediately. And remember, this was against a Cork team which was highly rated up there.
Mark Keane won the throw in and advanced with long, loping strides before parting to Evan Murphy who stole in behind his man and crashed home. It must have taken less than twenty seconds. For that opening couple of minutes, Cork dominated and tacked on a wide or two. Ominous. Not at all. Serious business was about to commence. Kerry's back unit assumed the collective persona of prairie dogs, Kerry's midfielders were rising as high as there more vaunted opponents- there was some great fielding all through by friend and foe alike, not least by outstanding wing forward, Adam O'Donoghue from Castleisland, and up front our forward line moved it fast and direct and wide. Inevitably, the scores flowed and in what seemed like the blink of an eyelid, from being a goal down, we had opened a substantial lead. It was an incredible transformation. In that attack, it is no surprise to relate that David Clifford was the mastermind. He lined out at full forward, even though wearing number eleven. Every time he moved towards the ball the Cork man sitting next to me groaned , exclaiming "ah for God sake". He knew about this lad and feared the worst. It was David who got those two first half goals. The first consolidated that early lead and the second was timely in that it answered a few points at the other end when Cork looked as if they might get back into the game. That second goal was essentially a " good night Irene" effort. It was not a one man band in the attack where Adam O'Donoghue, Donal O'Sullivan and Donncha O'Sullivan also made notable contributions.
There was little let off from Kerry in the second half but a lot of Cork players showed why they were rated highly. They brought on a sub, Killian Myers Murray, who scored three points from play. It begs an obvious question. They forced a penalty which was saved by Deividas Uosis. This was a brilliant save, diving to his left to get a hand to it. Who knows what might have happened if it had gone in. Not long afterwards he made a similarly good save. He also pulled down a few ones. Undoubtedly, one of the main men on the night. However, such was the relentlessness of our prairie dogs in defence that Cork eventually resorted to lobbing in high ones to Mark Keane who was switched into the full forward line. An act of desperation which rarely pays dividends. At the other end, our forwards continued to be a threat, a very big threat and kept that scoreboard ticking over. The mastermind, with apparent ease, did not slacken off and was unlucky not to bag a third goal. After winning a ball, he did a little jink and venomously unleashed one which just scorched over the bar. He did score 2-5 from play. However, Cork management stand seriously indicted in their approach to him. How they left the same man on him, unaided at that, for so long will forever remain a mystery. Perhaps, they felt their highly rated attack would compensate for any shortcomings at the back. One thing is for sure, David will not come up against a more naive management for the remainder of the campaign.
Donal O'Sullivan, so impressive for the u17's last week and very impressive again last night had the misfortune to go off injured late in the game. After the match I saw him being escorted away with his upper limb in a sling. It is a shame if he misses the u17 final next week and the the Munster minor final as well. Get well soon Donal. A bright future is in store for you.
Of course, it wasn't a flawless display. Few displays are. Cork scored one goal and our goalie rescued us on a couple of occasions. The minors would do well to be mindful of John B. Keane's injunction " walk aisy now that your jug is full". We need only to turn back time a couple of weeks to witness a very full jug being splashed all over the place.
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Post by keane on May 11, 2017 9:14:58 GMT
I see Cork goaled from the throw in and Uosis is credited with two great saves (including or as well as a penalty save I'm not sure?) so sounds like the back line has a few leaks in it?
Or possibly a bit of relaxation when the game was more or less in the bag?
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Post by onlykerry on May 11, 2017 9:27:43 GMT
I see Cork goaled from the throw in and Uosis is credited with two great saves (including or as well as a penalty save I'm not sure?) so sounds like the back line has a few leaks in it? Or possibly a bit of relaxation when the game was more or less in the bag? Listening to the game it seemed Kerry sat back more in the second half (only won second half 0-8 to 0-5) and invited Cork on. Dangerous tactic - Kerry need to go for the jugular when they are on top. Perhaps it was the auld "running the bench" effect also but either way I hate seeing a team defend a lead rather than keeping pressing their advantage. I always subscribe to the Chess motto - best form of defence is to attact.
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Post by greengold35 on May 11, 2017 9:41:28 GMT
I see Cork goaled from the throw in and Uosis is credited with two great saves (including or as well as a penalty save I'm not sure?) so sounds like the back line has a few leaks in it? Or possibly a bit of relaxation when the game was more or less in the bag? Listening to the game it seemed Kerry sat back more in the second half (only won second half 0-8 to 0-5) and invited Cork on. Dangerous tactic - Kerry need to go for the jugular when they are on top. Perhaps it was the auld "running the bench" effect also but either way I hate seeing a team defend a lead rather than keeping pressing their advantage. I always subscribe to the Chess motto - best form of defence is to attact. The Cork goal was timed @ 12 seconds, the chances they got in the 2nd half were from high balls in to the full forward line - at that point Mark Ahern had moved from midfield and his aerial ability caused us problems. I don't think we slackened off at all - the first half was played at a high tempo, the night was warm, neither side could maintain the intensity of effort. Donal O'Sullivan fractured his wrist and will probably be out until All Ireland 1/4 final - hard luck on him and big loss to the U-17s, a speedy recovery is hoped for.
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Post by Mickmack on May 11, 2017 12:50:50 GMT
Anyone who has been around these parts for years will recall the war on the minors thread because of poor displays and also because such and such a player not being involved. So what is the turn around due to? Is it the development squads from u16.
What jumps out at me in the number of small clubs being represented...is this down to the development squads too
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on May 11, 2017 13:32:13 GMT
Anyone who has been around these parts for years will recall the war on the minors thread because of poor displays and also because such and such a player not being involved. So what is the turn around due to? Is it the development squads from u16. What jumps out at me in the number of small clubs being represented...is this down to the development squads too Development squads have began meeting more seriously at a younger age than previously- regional strength & conditioning sessions have been held- more ex players have become involved. A lot more work is being done at schools level too- if you look at all the big schools around kerry- you have a few former/current players well positioned and involved
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Post by buck02 on May 11, 2017 13:49:17 GMT
Anyone who has been around these parts for years will recall the war on the minors thread because of poor displays and also because such and such a player not being involved. So what is the turn around due to? Is it the development squads from u16. What jumps out at me in the number of small clubs being represented...is this down to the development squads too Players from small clubs, especially those clubs not aligned to the strong schools who play in Corn Ui Mhuiri have been assisted greatly by the development squad system. Traditionally there were some small clubs whose players were over-represented at minor grade due to individuals within those clubs who had, what was called, 'a lot of pull' but now this practice is all but eliminated. The main worry I would have with the change to U17 at this grade, is that we will now have development squads at U13. Players at the age of 12 and 13 will now be taken from their clubs and into the development squad systems for the spring and summer months. By the time players reach U15, the U17 manager will already have been informed of the best prospects for the U17 team in the following two years. Players who are 'late developers' physically wont make squads at U13/U14/U15 and they will be very, very unlikely to have a hope of making the inter-county grade, especially if they are from small clubs and dont play Corn Ui Mhuiri.
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Post by givehimaball on May 11, 2017 13:58:06 GMT
Donal O'Sullivan fractured his wrist and will probably be out until All Ireland 1/4 final - hard luck on him and big loss to the U-17s, a speedy recovery is hoped for. Yeah very big loss to the U17s - himself, Eddie Horan and Deividas Uosis were the 3 from the U17s who were starters for the U18s so to lose one of them is a big blow to the U17s. The fact that he will be missing out on 2 Munster finals is a cruel one. Clare have come through the other side of things after beating Waterford, Tipp and Limerick. This will be the first time they got to a Munster minor final since 1994. Looking at Clare's results it puts a bit of a better sheen on the match in Tralee. Fair to say that this is probably one of Clare's stronger minor teams in a good while. I wonder if the four games together might give them that bit of an advantage versus Kerry's two games. Also they were twice as good at keeping Clifford quiet as Cork - he only scored 1-4 against them versus 2-8 last night. 12th April Kerry 2-16 Clare 1-6 19th April Clare 5-11 Waterford 0-6 26th April Clare 0-10 Tipperary 0-5 10th May Clare 3-13 Limerick 0-12
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Post by givehimaball on May 11, 2017 14:02:32 GMT
Anyone who has been around these parts for years will recall the war on the minors thread because of poor displays and also because such and such a player not being involved. So what is the turn around due to? Is it the development squads from u16. What jumps out at me in the number of small clubs being represented...is this down to the development squads too I think there has been a recognition that young lads need quality management and proper coaching - Going back a few years the quality of the management was decidedly mixed.
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Post by keane on May 11, 2017 14:08:30 GMT
Kerry were absolutely cruising after ten minutes in the first Clare game tbf. They were very lackadaisical once they got well in front early on.
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Post by madforfootball on May 11, 2017 14:14:54 GMT
Anyone who has been around these parts for years will recall the war on the minors thread because of poor displays and also because such and such a player not being involved. So what is the turn around due to? Is it the development squads from u16. What jumps out at me in the number of small clubs being represented...is this down to the development squads too I think there has been a recognition that young lads need quality management and proper coaching - Going back a few years the quality of the management was decidedly mixed. I honestly think along with the development squads the club coaches have got better too very good coaches involved at under age now , u just look at the likes of firies playing div 1 , kilgarven/ tousist and cordal/scart in division 2 these teams usually don't be up this high it's all down to good coaching at under age. Was a massive performance by kerry last night from 1 to 15 and some subs even put there hands up ... Clifford was unbelievable and so was O Connor at midfield. Well done to all
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