Christy Ring final Meath v Antrim: score mess up

[gaelicden]

Just heard on RTE.ie that Antrim gaa are to review the footage from yesterday's Christy ring final v Meath suggesting that the score (which was Meath 2-18 to 1-20 Antrim) should have read 2-17 to 1-20 in favour of a draw and extra time. The incident that started this is supposed to have occurred around the 62nd or 63rd minute. Any thoughts?

[Deleted]

Was watching the game and did notice the score being taken off the screen by TG4 and the commentary went for a few minutes so there was something up,

Surely the ref was keeping score,or is that taken out of their hands in Croke Park?

[greengold35]

It is one of the duties of referees to keep the score as per the official rules and to include the final score in his report to the relevant body.

[gaelicden]

I didn't see the incident in question as there was baling to do but when I tried to view it on the tg4 player very late last night, I noticed the two other hurling finals had been uploaded but not the Christy ring final, I don't know has it been uploaded now, I must check but it would be very interesting to watch.
*edit* just checked the player now, its uploaded now, I must have a look and see.

[gaelicden]

m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0605/793494-meath-christy-ring/
According to this report, the ref admitted that there was a fault with the score while after rte reviewing the footage, it was indeed a draw.

[neilesflynn]

What did the bookies do?? Did they pay out on a Meath win??

[gaelicden]

Jun 6, 2016 14:41:52 GMT neilesflynn said:

What did the bookies do?? Did they pay out on a Meath win??

betting.boylesports.com/gaa/boylesports-pay-meath-win-draw-result-christy-ring-cup
A Meath win and draw were paid out

[playitfair]

I think this is clear cut. If it was a draw then a replay. Just seems to be an error in the score. Hard on Meath but that is the only fair outcome IMO.

[kerrygold]

Has the Meath Louth result set a precedent or will it be easier to make a different ruling on a "lesser" competition?

[Mickmack]

Well if Meath keep the Christy Ring cup in 2016 then Antrim will surely win it next year or the year after.

Which is more than can be said for the Limerick minors a few years ago when they lost by a point to Galway in teh semi final after a feck up by Hawkeye denied them a point.

You get just one shot at a minor All Ireland usually and the decision to not given them a replay was a disgrace in the circumstances but the precedent is set now so Meath must stand as Christy Ring champs of 2016

[Annascaultilidie]

Jun 6, 2016 21:33:02 GMT Mickmack said:

Well if Meath keep the Christy Ring cup in 2016 then Antrim will surely win it next year or the year after.

Which is more than can be said for the Limerick minors a few years ago when they lost by a point to Galway in teh semi final after a feck up by Hawkeye denied them a point.

You get just one shot at a minor All Ireland usually and the decision to not given them a replay was a disgrace in the circumstances but the precedent is set now so Meath must stand as Christy Ring champs of 2016

How is that a precedent?

[hurlingman]

GAA have ruled out a double promotion. To be fair if they could somehow manage it they'd not promote either of them

[onlykerry]

Once the referee called the result then there is no going back - If a referee allows an incorrect score or during a game it is never overturned afterwards. Only disciplinary matters can be overturned as far as I can understand from the rule book.
It may well be harsh but thems the rules as far as I can figure it.
It is strange that the referee made the same mistake as the stadium scoreboard - for me this suggests the referee did not do one of his primary functions on the day - keep the score - and instead relied on the public scoreboard.

[playitfair]

Jun 7, 2016 10:34:00 GMT onlykerry said:

Once the referee called the result then there is no going back - If a referee allows an incorrect score or during a game it is never overturned afterwards. Only disciplinary matters can be overturned as far as I can understand from the rule book.
It may well be harsh but thems the rules as far as I can figure it.
It is strange that the referee made the same mistake as the stadium scoreboard - for me this suggests the referee did not do one of his primary functions on the day - keep the score - and instead relied on the public scoreboard.

We do not know the full facts here, it may be that the referees record is that it was a draw however in the welter of excitement people looked at the scoreboard and that was the basis for everything immediately the full-time whistle was blown.

I think justice needs to be done here, It is not a case of a dispute over a free or score a la Limerick minors or Louth. We have all been involved in games where such incidents occur, you just have to suck it up & get on with it.

This is different as It "appears" to a record keeping error by Croke Park.

[veteran]

You win a game by scoring more scoring more than your opponent . It is clear now that Meath did not score more than Antrim. Therefore how can they claim victory? An honest mistake was made and the obvious solution, the only solution, is to replay the match. The suggestion that both be allowed compete in Leinster nest year is patent nonsense. It really is a reflection of the entitlement mentality that has become pervasive in this country. As far as I know the agreement was that the winners would get the Leinster ticket for next year. There were no winners . It follows that a replay is necessary to determine the winner. Get on with it.

[kerrybhoy06]

As far as I am aware onlykerry is right- by the rule book Meath have won and there is no going back on it.
I'd imagine that the GAA wont open it back up unless Meath offer a replay

[Mickmack]

With the limericks minors...the point was recorded and the puckout taken when the Hawkeye ref had a word in the refs ear and the score was cancelled. No replay was given to limerick. In 1998 there was a breach of a rule by the ref when he blew after 68 mins in the Clare offaly semi final. A game must last 70 mins. That allowed the gaa to order a replay

[yellowbelly]

It's like Deja Vu all over again.
Mario's take on it back in 2010
"Meath County Board, let them have a replay now!"

[gaelicden]

Looks like we have a replay. The cccc have made their decision, no details on replay (date,time,where etc) however

[kerrybhoy06]

To be honest this might not be such a good thing- we have seen a lot of players get off suspensions on technicalities and this might set a dangerous precedent.
A refs decision should be final, whether right or wrong

[Mickmack]

Steven Clynch captures dramatic Christy Ring glory for Meath

By Paul Keane at Croke Park | Updated: Saturday, 25 Jun 2016 20:28 | 18 Comments



Antrim 5-17 Meath 4-21

Steven Clynch's 93rd-minute point secured a maiden Christy Ring Cup title success for Meath, a win that will go down in hurling history as one of the most dramatic ever.

The sides were forced to do it all again at Croke Park after a controversial draw three weeks ago and they didn't disappoint, delivering a nine-goal thriller that went all the way to wire at the end of extra-time.

Antrim initially forced extra-time with a 75th minute goal from substitute Darren Hamill and another goal for the Ulster outfit in extra-time left them two points ahead with 89 minutes on the clock.

It looked like the end of the road for Meath who lifted the cup three weeks ago only to be told the game actually ended in a draw, forcing this replay.

But they simply refused to give in and points from Clynch and captain James Toher tied it up before Clynch took his tally to 1-03 for the evening with that last gasp free to win it.

Meath's reward is a place in next year's McCarthy Cup and will celebrate this win for some time to come.



The evening, ironically, couldn't have started much better for Antrim who raced 1-02 to 0-00 clear after a third minute Ciaran Clarke goal.

Clarke added an eighth-minute point though it was a controversial score as an umpire firstly raised his white flag before then calling for Hawk-Eye to be used.

Moments later, on the apparent advice of referee Cathal McAllister, the other umpire raised his white flag and awarded the score without utilising Hawk-Eye.

Top scorer Toher converted four frees in a row for Meath to leave just one in it after 17 minutes, 1-02 to 0-04.

Both sides deployed their centre-backs as sweepers and Meath initially struggled to break down Antrim's fortified defence.

They didn't score a point from open play until the 35th minute while Antrim were much more efficient, finishing the half strong with 1-02 from Conor Johnston to take a deserved 2-08 to 0-06 interval lead.

Johnston's injury-time goal was expertly taken as he followed up on the goalkeeper's parried clearance with a bullet shot from the left of goals.

But the game turned on its head early in the second-half when Meath hit 1-04 without reply to leave just a point in it.

Neil Heffernan's first goal in the 40th minute hauled Meath right back into it and the resurgent Royal County were back level in the 53rd minute when Toher converted his seventh free of the afternoon.

Meath were completely dominant now and Heffernan hit a second goal from close range after good work by Gavin McGowan.

Meath were four clear entering the last 10 minutes but a chaotic ending saw goals fly in at both ends.

Niall McKenna put Antrim ahead again with their third goal in the 67th minute but 1-01 from Meath sub Clynch put them three up with 75 minutes on the clock.

Antrim had one last attack, a Clarke free and dramatically levelled when his shot was blocked and poked in by Hamill, forcing extra-time at 4-12 to 3-15.

A fourth Meath goal five minutes into the first-half of extra-time from Gavin McGowan left them with a two-point advantage at the interval.

A 1-02 haul from Antrim in the second-half nudged them two clear but they couldn't hold out for a famous win as Meath came up with that breathtaking finish to steal victory.

Meath: S McCann; S Geraghty, R Sherlock, D Donoghue; S Brennan, K Keoghan, S Whitty; S Heavey, S Morris (0-01); J Keena (0-01), D Healy, A Gannon (0-02); G McGowan (1-00), J Toher (0-12, 0-11f), N Heffernan (2-00).

Subs: S Clynch (1-03, 0-02f) for Brennan, S Quigley (0-02) for Heavey, K Keena for Heffernan, M O'Grady for J Keena. J Keena for O'Grady.

Antrim: E Gillan; P Burke, T McCloskey, S McCrory; O McFadden, N McAuley, F Donnelly; E Campbell (0-01), E McCloskey; N McKenna (1-05), C Johnston (1-02), S McAfee (0-01); N Elliott (0-01), B McCarry, C Clarke (1-05, 0-02f, 0-1 65).

Subs: PJ O'Connell for Elliott, D McKernan (0-02) for McCarry, J Connolly (1-00) for T McCloskey, D Hamill (1-00) for McKenna. McKenna for Johnston, J Dillon for O'Connell.

Referee: C McAllister (Cork).

[ballynamona]

Sounded like a cracker. I'm glad for Meath hurling. The population exists there for investments in Hurling in places like Navan.