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Post by playitfair on Jun 17, 2015 13:52:38 GMT
It annoys me when referees do not apply the rules of the game e.g. someone being struck by a fist or a hurley can often result in a yellow card for the offending player even though the official sanction for striking or attempting to strike is a red card.
This leads me to last Sunday and the rule changes introduced in football in 2014 including the advantage rule & the black card. Progressive changes. One thing that struck me last Sunday were yellow cards being issued for what appeared to be clear black card offences. It strikes me that the black card is going to leave the GAA world shortly as it not being implemented. Do referees find the black card rule difficult to apply or implement?
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keane
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Post by keane on Jun 17, 2015 14:27:35 GMT
I think there's a balls issue tbh, refs are avoiding making the black card call at all costs which is a shame.
I said in the argument about the black card from the start that I'd prefer to have a good rule (i.e. the black card) and *e refs, than *e rules and *e refs. I stand by that and think that at least if the rules are decent there's the potential for decent refereeing.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 17, 2015 14:53:53 GMT
I would just like to say that I am a big fan of the black card and referees are being too careful in.= avoiding Type I errors.
They don't seem to have any problem making Type I errors with yellows even though I think a yellow could be considered almost as bad as a black.
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Post by animal on Jun 17, 2015 15:30:53 GMT
It is a bit strange as black card offences tend to be fairly clear cut - a drag down, a trip etcand easy to spot. We haven't seen much in the way of black cards handed out in error thankfully probably mainly due to the reluctance in dishing them out!
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 17, 2015 16:33:58 GMT
The ref has to be certain the crime has been deliberate before he issues a card. I always felt "certain & "deliberate" would be the stumbling blocks with the black card.
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Post by Layeth the Smacketh Down on Jun 18, 2015 17:48:05 GMT
If the black card is to be kept, referees new to use it consistently, I've seen and heard of a few cases where a ref is more likely to show a black card to a member of an away team and show a yellow to the home player for the same tackle.
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Post by kerrygold on Jun 18, 2015 18:46:30 GMT
Attaining a consistency of the black card application is doomed to failure as it involves human interpretation of an evolving act of play to be deliberate or accidental as it develops in real time. The application of the black card in the club game seems to have claimed rare breed status at this stage. Hardly a satisfactory scenario.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jun 18, 2015 21:48:13 GMT
I see it always- the 2 yellow cards rule for when a scuffle breaks out- the perpetrator should be punished and not the other guy for defending himself.
Its the biggest cop-out in refereeing
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jun 19, 2015 2:08:24 GMT
I see it always- the 2 yellow cards rule for when a scuffle breaks out- the perpetrator should be punished and not the other guy for defending himself. Its the biggest cop-out in refereeing I prefer a talking to than two yellows. |
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