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Post by Mickmack on Sept 21, 2007 18:00:13 GMT
When was the last time a manager retained SAM in his second season.....
I dont know the answer.
Mick o Dwyer, Heffo, Jack o Connor, Mickey Harte, Joe Kernan, they all won SAM in the first season but failed to retain it the following year.
This is a big challenge for Pat o Shea to overcome in 2008
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 21, 2007 22:21:03 GMT
I would say that only austinstacks abu will know the answer
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Post by alonso on Sept 23, 2007 1:06:27 GMT
I would say that only austinstacks abu will know the answer probably dr eamon o sullivan at least history is on pats side as both are crokes men |
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 3, 2007 20:58:01 GMT
Mick o Dwyer, Heffo, Jack o Connor, Mickey Harte, Joe Kernan
Can Pat do what they failed to do?
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 3, 2007 21:28:09 GMT
Dr. Eamon never did back to backs with Kerry!
Could it be argued about Tony Hanahoe, since he was manager, then selector in year two?!! (Clutching at straws here).
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Post by black on Oct 4, 2007 7:58:56 GMT
Billy Morgan 89/90
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Post by animal on Oct 4, 2007 8:13:29 GMT
Read the question. Morgan was in his 5th season or so by 1990. |
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 4, 2007 9:47:06 GMT
it might possibly be one of the managers or maybe both who guided kerry to their first 4 in a row and wexford to their 4 in a row way back.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Oct 4, 2007 14:48:10 GMT
The thing is KG, there wasn't such a thing as a manager back then.....more a collective of a few men running the show from around the clubs.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 4, 2007 22:11:48 GMT
why have so many managers failed in their second year?
Loyalty to certain players?
Loss of hunger?
Complacency?l
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Post by kerrygold on Oct 4, 2007 22:26:48 GMT
why have so many managers failed in their second year? Loyalty to certain players? Loss of hunger? Complacency?l in relation to kerrys last all-ireland defeat i 'd say you have ticked the two first boxes there mickmack,you'll find concluesive evidence in jacks book to back this up. personally i felt that if both this kerry team and the recent tyrone team failed to win back to back all-irelands it wouldnt be achieved for a very long time to come. |
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