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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 3, 2015 21:14:47 GMT
He still goes to the games
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Post by watchdebreakswillye on Apr 3, 2015 21:56:58 GMT
He still goes to the games Le O' is a great character, unique and could only be spawned in Kerry. When the teams of the Golden Era come to mind, so too does Leo. He was part and parcel of that glorious era and was a much loved member of the team. Will we ever see his likes associated with Kerry again? The man before him (wasn't he Gaffney Duggan?) was a great and much loved character too, I believe
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Post by fivenarow on Apr 4, 2015 9:02:26 GMT
He still goes to the games Le O' is a great character, unique and could only be spawned in Kerry. When the teams of the Golden Era come to mind, so too does Leo. He was part and parcel of that glorious era and was a much loved member of the team. Will we ever see his likes associated with Kerry again? The man before him (wasn't he Gaffney Duggan?) was a great and much loved character too, I believe No need of the paparazzi or cc tv either when Leo was around?
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Post by fenit67 on Apr 4, 2015 21:02:46 GMT
I have tuppence worth: 1 Charlie Nelligan 2 Marc o'Sé 3 John O'Keefe 4 Paudie Lynch 5 Paidi O'Sé 6 Séamus Moynihan 7 Tomas O'Sé 8 Darragh O'Sé 9 Jack O'Shea 10 Maurice Fitzgerald 11 Declan O'Sullivan 12 Pat Spillane 13 Mikey Sheehy 14 Eoin Liston 15 John Egan
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 4, 2015 21:12:46 GMT
No Gooch?
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Post by fenit67 on Apr 4, 2015 21:26:13 GMT
Who would you leave out sullyschoice?
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 4, 2015 21:37:41 GMT
I have tuppence worth: 1 Charlie Nelligan 2 Marc o'Sé 3 John O'Keefe 4 Paudie Lynch 5 Paidi O'Sé 6 Séamus Moynihan 7 Tomas O'Sé 8 Darragh O'Sé 9 Jack O'Shea 10 Maurice Fitzgerald 11 Declan O'Sullivan 12 Pat Spillane 13 Mikey Sheehy 14 Eoin Liston 15 John Egan Very good selection. Just put Jacko at 8 and Darragh at 9.
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Post by southward on Apr 5, 2015 9:01:59 GMT
Who would you leave out sullyschoice? Yeah but...Gooch!. It's like omitting Jesus from the top 15 holiest list. I'd leave out the keeper if it came to it.
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 5, 2015 10:22:57 GMT
It will be interesting to see where the Gooch will sit in the pantheon of great Kerry forwards five - ten years into retirement from the intercounty game.
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Post by sinkthelead on Apr 5, 2015 17:20:24 GMT
And the opposition? I'd be very interested in the Kerry supporters best 15 from opposing teams faced in all Ireland finals from the last 25 years
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Post by sullyschoice on Apr 5, 2015 20:40:02 GMT
Who would you leave out sullyschoice? Not him anyway
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Post by Chinatown on Apr 6, 2015 12:39:29 GMT
Who would you leave out sullyschoice? Yeah but...Gooch!. It's like omitting Jesus from the top 15 holiest list. I'd leave out the keeper if it came to it.
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Post by whitefire on Apr 6, 2015 13:01:46 GMT
Diarmuid Murphy Marc Ó Sé John O'Keeffe Mike McCarthy Páidí Ó Sé Seamus Moynihan Tomás Ó Sé Darragh Ó Sé Jack O'Shea Pat Spillane Maurice Fitzgerald Ogie Moran Mikey Sheehy Eoin Liston Colm Cooper
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 7, 2015 9:24:57 GMT
And the opposition? I'd be very interested in the Kerry supporters best 15 from opposing teams faced in all Ireland finals from the last 25 years Will give this a cut, very difficult though. Cluxton McMenamin Bellew Lynch de Paor McGeeney Jordan Cavanagh McGrane Dooher McDonald McConville Brogan Joyce Canavan
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Post by sinkthelead on Apr 7, 2015 10:40:03 GMT
And the opposition? I'd be very interested in the Kerry supporters best 15 from opposing teams faced in all Ireland finals from the last 25 years Will give this a cut, very difficult though. Cluxton McMenamin Bellew Lynch de Paor McGeeney Jordan Cavanagh McGrane Dooher McDonald McConville Brogan Joyce Canavan that's a very good team. Would agree with 10 of the 15, still though id fancy Kerry's best to beat the team you've selected. I'll keep my selection close to my chest in the hope more kerry boys put up a selection before revelation!!!!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 7, 2015 11:04:51 GMT
Giving it a go
1 Diarmuid Murphy 2 Marc Ó Sé 3 John O'Keefe 4 Paudie Lynch/Jimmy Deenihan 5 Paidi Ó Sé 6 Séamus Moynihan 7 Tomas Ó Sé (though I feel it is impossible not to put Aidan O'Mahony in there) 8 Sean Walsh 9 Jack O'Shea 10 Maurice Fitzgerald 11 Gooch or Ogie Moran 12 Pat Spillane 13 Mikey Sheehy 14 Eoin Liston 15 John Egan (is it too early to put James O'Donoghue in there?)
It is impossible to do though. I have no idea how I can leave David Moran or Darragh Ó Sé out of there or even Darran O'Sullivan. So made a selection based on how they would work as a team and I feel this would be the all conquering team though Star surely would do wonders if he could lay off ball to Sheehy and Egan. It would be unstoppable.
It is just frightening how many players you have to leave out of the team. Is there any other county that could leave Ger Power or Declan O'Sullivan or Tim Kennelly out or even Diarmuid O'Donoghue? I doubt any county would be able to keep such greats out of their best 15 of the last 40 years.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 7, 2015 11:20:06 GMT
Opposition
1. Cluxton
2. Enda McNulty 3. Francie Bellew 4. Justin McMahon 5. Conor Gormley 6. Kieran McGeeney 7. Seán Óg De Paor
8. Bernard Brogan (the elder) 9. Bryan Mullins
10. Bryan Dooher 11. Tony Hanahoe 12. Oisin McConville 13. Michael Meehan 14. Jimmy Keaveney 15. Peter Canavan
Tis very hard to leave anyone out. You can kind of put the Tyrone defenders in any position in the backs though as they seem to have played in almost every position across the pitch.
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Post by himself on Apr 7, 2015 15:40:37 GMT
Personally, I find the opposition question far more interesting.
Stephen Cluxton
Kenneth Mortimor, Sean Doherty, James Nallen
Kevin Moran, Graeme Canty, Kieran McGeeney
Liam McHale, Brian Mullins
Ciaran McDonald, Sean Cavanagh, Michael Murphy
Peter Canavan , Jimmy Keaveney, Matt O’Connor
Subs Martin Furlong, Brian Murphy, Kevin Kehilly, Kevin Walsh, Oisin McConville, Padraig Joyce, Alan Brogan, Anton O’Toole, Dermot Flanagan, Harry Keegan
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 7, 2015 15:44:19 GMT
Sinktheleads original question was opposing players faced in All-Ireland Finals in the past 25 years. That only goes back to 1990 lads so the likes of Mullins, Hanahoe, Matt Connor, Keaveney wouldn't be runners.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 7, 2015 16:52:15 GMT
Sinktheleads original question was opposing players faced in All-Ireland Finals in the past 25 years. That only goes back to 1990 lads so the likes of Mullins, Hanahoe, Matt Connor, Keaveney wouldn't be runners. Tis a bit strange to have the opposition for the last 25 years and the Kerry teams for last 40 years. We could go best opposition last 5 years and Kerry would suddenly look rather weak.
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Post by himself on Apr 7, 2015 17:06:46 GMT
Apologies, I took it as best since '75.
Stephen Cluxton
Kenneth Mortimor, Justin McMahon, Keith Higgins
Graeme Canty, Kieran McGeeney, James Nallen
Liam McHale, Kevin Walsh
Ciaran McDonald, Sean Cavanagh, Michael Murphy
Peter Canavan, Padraig Joyce, Oisin McConville
Subs Martin McNamara, Alan Brogan, Diarmuid Marsden, Brian Dooher, Paul Flynn, Michael Donnellan, Lee Keegan, Rory O'Carroll, Michael Darragh McAuley
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Post by sinkthelead on Apr 7, 2015 19:03:16 GMT
Sinktheleads original question was opposing players faced in All-Ireland Finals in the past 25 years. That only goes back to 1990 lads so the likes of Mullins, Hanahoe, Matt Connor, Keaveney wouldn't be runners. Tis a bit strange to have the opposition for the last 25 years and the Kerry teams for last 40 years. We could go best opposition last 5 years and Kerry would suddenly look rather weak. I may have read the thread wrong, I was of the understanding that the Kerry teams where going back 25 years, my bad! still though, some fabulous teams being posted!i feel a bit like micko driving home to Waterville thinking how the teams might play!
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Apr 7, 2015 19:46:36 GMT
The amount of talent you'd need to keep out of the squad even if you look at the last 25 years or the last 10 years is unreal. To think that Liam McHale might, or might not, make the squad ahead of Bryan Mullins for example or MDMA is baffling. It goes to show how blessed Ireland is when it comes to exceptional athletes.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 7, 2015 21:59:04 GMT
And the opposition? I'd be very interested in the Kerry supporters best 15 from opposing teams faced in all Ireland finals from the last 25 years I think he is asking for the best 15 that Kerry have faced in finals since 1990. So its players from Mayo in 1997, Galway in 2000, Armagh in 2002, Tyrone in 2005 and 2008, Cork in 2007 and 2009, Dublin in 2011 and Donegal in 2014.
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Post by Mickmack on Apr 7, 2015 22:05:40 GMT
Stephen Cluxton
Lynch of Cork, Canty, Keith Higgins Philip Jordan Kieran McGeeney, Michael Donnellan
Michael D McAuley and Paul McGrane
Brian Dooher, Sean Cavanagh, Michael Murphy
Peter Canavan, Padraig Joyce, Bernard Brogan
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Post by kerrygold on Apr 7, 2015 22:08:55 GMT
That could probably be trimmed back to 1997.
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Post by sinkthelead on Apr 7, 2015 22:43:18 GMT
And the opposition? I'd be very interested in the Kerry supporters best 15 from opposing teams faced in all Ireland finals from the last 25 years I think he is asking for the best 15 that Kerry have faced in finals since 1990. So its players from Mayo in 1997, Galway in 2000, Armagh in 2002, Tyrone in 2005 and 2008, Cork in 2007 and 2009, Dublin in 2011 and Donegal in 2014. fire ahead from the 70s too, I read the original thread title wrong, took 1975 as 25 years. Was having a kick while shoeing a horse moment, us dubs ain't the brightest.
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Post by Jigz84 on Apr 8, 2015 9:59:56 GMT
Since 75:
S Cluxton
G O'Driscoll H Keegan R Kelleher K Moran R Connor P Jordan
D Earley B Mullins
B Dooher C McDonald O McConville S O'Neill M Connor P Canavan
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Post by animal on Apr 8, 2015 10:36:10 GMT
I'd be interested in knowing whether people who select players from 30-40 years ago actually saw these players play. I am not casting doubt on teams selected thus far but indicating whether one was around at the time would lend credence and weight to selections. My own expertise just about goes as far as mid-1980's having been born in the late 70's. I wouldn't count video clips as having seen a player play. Watching full length All Ireland finals can give a good idea as to a player's worth but personally I think you need to have been familiar with the player in your own lifetime. So while I would never doubt how good a player Matt Connor was for example - he was clearly incredible - I am relying on others testimony for the most part.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Apr 8, 2015 10:36:19 GMT
What about a team with players per position in order of priority, a bit like The All-Star nominees. Note 'priority' as opposed to judging who is best as that is impossible and we could all have a different team for every hour of the day.
1 Nelligan, Culloty, Paudie O'Mahoney 2 Marc 3 John O'K 4 Deenihan, Mike McCarthy 5 Paidi 6 Moynihan 7 Tomas, AO'M 8/9 Mick O'Connell Jack O'S, Sean Walsh, Darragh 10/12 Maurice Fitzg Pat Spillane, Declan O'Sullivan, Ger Power, Ogie 11 Gooch 14 Star, Bomber 13/15 Mikey Sheehy, Gooch, JO'D, John Egan
You could spend the day at it, but sure all you'd do is be adding and rejigging, like different shades of gold, depends more on the light shining on it. I mean , how could you separate Bomber and Donaghy, half and half, Bombaghy or Donamber? If Tommy Walsh didn't go down under he might dwarf them all as his auld lad is already there and fellas have better preparation these days, Tadhg Kennelly also maybe?
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