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Post by skybluezone on Aug 29, 2014 14:04:42 GMT
Just been browsing the Reservoir Dubs forum. One poster is stating that if this years Leinster Final had ended in a draw the replay was scheduled to take place in Thurles, as Garth Brooks concerts were already scheduled for Croke Park, clashing with the replay date. Not sure how true it is, or it's relevance in the context of tomorrow's match, but if true it surely puts to bed all the arguments about the GAA hierarchy not being willing to discommode the Dirty Dubs and taking them out of "Dubs Park". Oh Dear.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 29, 2014 14:06:51 GMT
I agree, You need to stand your ground a some stage. For years the Kerry defence have backed off men coming thru the middle. God be the days the a Breen, Moynihan or Flaherty would put you in your box.
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Post by sidelined on Aug 29, 2014 14:12:46 GMT
as regards keegan, mayo co board went to battle for their man and won. fair play to them why not, could give our county board a lesson, instead of rolling over and playing dead like we have seen over the years. both teams have named unchanged teams for the replay, this is for printing of programmes benefit only. guaranteed both will make changes. o brien is injured, barry john or darren to come in, has griffin fallen out of favour so much that he cant get place in team. horse of a man could put him at 6 and crowley to wing fionn to full back line. kerrys advantage is that while mayo can change personnel , kerry can change tactics and go long into donaghy
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 29, 2014 14:14:25 GMT
as regards keegan, mayo co board went to battle for their man and won. fair play to them why not, could give our county board a lesson, instead of rolling over and playing dead like we have seen over the years. both teams have named unchanged teams for the replay, this is for printing of programmes benefit only. guaranteed both will make changes. o brien is injured, barry john or darren to come in, has griffin fallen out of favour so much that he cant get place in team. horse of a man could put him at 6 and crowley to wing fionn to full back line. kerrys advantage is that while mayo can change personnel , kerry can change tactics and go long into donaghy How is Darren fit now if he couldn't even be a sub the last day?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Aug 29, 2014 14:22:07 GMT
as regards keegan, mayo co board went to battle for their man and won. fair play to them why not, could give our county board a lesson, instead of rolling over and playing dead like we have seen over the years. both teams have named unchanged teams for the replay, this is for printing of programmes benefit only. guaranteed both will make changes. o brien is injured, barry john or darren to come in, has griffin fallen out of favour so much that he cant get place in team. horse of a man could put him at 6 and crowley to wing fionn to full back line. kerrys advantage is that while mayo can change personnel , kerry can change tactics and go long into donaghy How is Darren fit now if he couldn't even be a sub the last day? I wonder the same.I do hope he's fit though. Could be a huge boost. Darren is a student in Dublin as far as I know and these weeks must be very busy. Training no longer consists of walking into a field and kick a few balls or running around the village square 20 times, but is tailored to specific styles and to counteract other teams based on video evidence. It must be hard to pendle between Dublin and Kerry, sort out the college stuff, and get to training all the time. Maybe he was fitter than we think but skipped too many training sessions to know what the strategy was going to be. Just throwing it out there, I have no idea if this is true at all or if he has trained with the rest of the team since coming back from injury.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 29, 2014 15:21:29 GMT
, has griffin fallen out of favour so much that he cant get place in team. horse of a man could put him at 6 and crowley to wing fionn to full back line. If I was to drop anyone from that full backline it would be Marc. He has been poor the last two games. And I dont subscribe to this bullsh*t "he plays well in big games....you can always count on" We hear this about older players every year. The management either have the balls to drop under performing players or not.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Aug 29, 2014 15:46:52 GMT
, has griffin fallen out of favour so much that he cant get place in team. horse of a man could put him at 6 and crowley to wing fionn to full back line. If I was to drop anyone from that full backline it would be Marc. He has been poor the last two games. And I dont subscribe to this bullsh*t "he plays well in big games....you can always count on" We hear this about older players every year. The management either have the balls to drop under performing players or not. I love the O Se's but I'm afraid you're right. He needs to make a big improvement.
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Post by seamo on Aug 29, 2014 15:47:12 GMT
ya might wanna tell james o donahue that he can only take 4 consecutive steps before he has to solo or bounce it, not like the 9 or 10 he normally takes 12. OVERCARRY To take more than four steps while holding the ball in the hand(s). Actually all they could retrospectively do is give Buckley a noting going by the rules: Noting Infractions 1. To hold an opponent with the hand(s). 2. To use the fist on or around the body of an opponent for the purpose of dispossessing him of the ball. Between this and thinking the penalty should have been a black card, it seems nobody in Mayo knows the rules of gaelic football. hahaha your hilarious, please never leave us.
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Post by seamo on Aug 29, 2014 15:52:06 GMT
Watched first game again last night (on mute, couldn't stomach T Carr). Crowley was immense in the last ten minutes. He made a great run for a vital point to cut the gap back to 4. He then horsed Seamus O Shea off the ball under the Hogan. He also picked up a vital break that led to either the goal or the equaliser, I can't recall. OK he gave away the peno but I didn't see any other Kerry defender make an attempt to stop Vaughan. It's clear to me he's a big game player as he showed also last year v Dublin. More of the same again Saturday Peter. I can't forgive him for the penalty, it was a dumbass move which was 100% unnecessary. But aside from that, yes he had an excellent game, and after the penalty he lifted his game even more which is a great sign.
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Post by seamo on Aug 29, 2014 16:00:57 GMT
The condescending attitude of some Kerry supporters here is pretty sickening. People expressing a grievance towards what is (are) clearly awful decision (s) is not something for someone to criticise others for, simply because they themselves are "over a certain age" or "saw the game in black and white", and see themselves as "true Kerry fans" . These decisions are in the here and now, we don't have to have seen a game in black and white to express our views. As I've said before, if you don't know sh!t about what your talking about, than say nothing!!!! So save us the condescending bs about age and what a "true Kerry fan is".
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Post by Jigz84 on Aug 29, 2014 16:01:35 GMT
Good luck to the lads tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing the big Kerry support tomorrow, CIARRAÍ ABÚ!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by An Ciarraíoch Taistealaíoch on Aug 29, 2014 16:18:09 GMT
I think I was happy enough about the penalty... well Crowley's part in it. At least he made a tackle! Could have been earlier or later but at least some challenge was made. He knew he had to do something and did it. We were all saying before the game that if someone would run straight through the middle they'd need to be shouldered out of it. Crowley did that and was unlucky that the shoulder did not make contact with the shoulder of the opponent. It was a good tackle in my opinion saving a certain goal and I don't blame him one bit for the penalty. A good tackle??seriously? If it was a good tackle the ref wouldn't have blown the whistle. He shouldered into the back,if he was a fraction of a second earlier it would have been the tackle of the year but it wasn't. Definite foul,definite penalty,am glad he tried though
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Aug 29, 2014 16:23:00 GMT
We were all saying before the game that if someone would run straight through the middle they'd need to be shouldered out of it. Crowley did that and was unlucky that the shoulder did not make contact with the shoulder of the opponent. It was a good tackle in my opinion saving a certain goal and I don't blame him one bit for the penalty. A good tackle??seriously? If it was a good tackle the ref wouldn't have blown the whistle. He shouldered into the back,if he was a fraction of a second earlier it would have been the tackle of the year but it wasn't. Definite foul,definite penalty,am glad he tried though That's what I meant. If he was a fraction of a second earlier it would have indeed been the save of the championship. The tackle stopped a certain goal and it was worth trying to do so even if a penalty was the result. After all, penalties get stopped often enough.
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 29, 2014 16:31:18 GMT
I don't think it was a definite goal. There were 3 Kerry players lining across the goal. It was a decent attempt to stop him alright
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Post by Jo90 on Aug 29, 2014 16:37:24 GMT
I don't think it was a definite goal. There were 3 Kerry players lining across the goal. It was a decent attempt to stop him alright
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 29, 2014 16:39:01 GMT
A good tackle??seriously? If it was a good tackle the ref wouldn't have blown the whistle. He shouldered into the back,if he was a fraction of a second earlier it would have been the tackle of the year but it wasn't. Definite foul,definite penalty,am glad he tried though After all, penalties get stopped often enough. That is incorrect.
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Post by seamo on Aug 29, 2014 16:50:07 GMT
A good tackle??seriously? If it was a good tackle the ref wouldn't have blown the whistle. He shouldered into the back,if he was a fraction of a second earlier it would have been the tackle of the year but it wasn't. Definite foul,definite penalty,am glad he tried though That's what I meant. If he was a fraction of a second earlier it would have indeed been the save of the championship. The tackle stopped a certain goal and it was worth trying to do so even if a penalty was the result. After all, penalties get stopped often enough. If I'm old enough to express my opinion on this, then I would like to say, the tackle was not missed times at all. Crowley knew what he was doing and there was even a bit of panic to it. Vaughan didn't turn his back to Crowley, Crowley hit him in the back with his shoulder. The important point being that Crowley didn't go to shoulder, he went to take Vaughan down and try disguise it as a shoulder. But hopefully he'll learn from it, and he is someone who is clearly capable and willing to stop someone in their tracks.
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Post by sidelined on Aug 29, 2014 17:19:47 GMT
, has griffin fallen out of favour so much that he cant get place in team. horse of a man could put him at 6 and crowley to wing fionn to full back line. If I was to drop anyone from that full backline it would be Marc. He has been poor the last two games. And I dont subscribe to this bullsh*t "he plays well in big games....you can always count on" We hear this about older players every year. The management either have the balls to drop under performing players or not. marc is not on form, limerick might suit him better but thats where i would fionn at 2
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Aug 29, 2014 17:39:50 GMT
as regards keegan, mayo co board went to battle for their man and won. fair play to them why not, could give our county board a lesson, instead of rolling over and playing dead like we have seen over the years. both teams have named unchanged teams for the replay, this is for printing of programmes benefit only. guaranteed both will make changes. o brien is injured, barry john or darren to come in, has griffin fallen out of favour so much that he cant get place in team. horse of a man could put him at 6 and crowley to wing fionn to full back line. kerrys advantage is that while mayo can change personnel , kerry can change tactics and go long into donaghy I have no doubt that the carping and whining done by Mayo about having to go to Limerick influenced the Keegan decision. It was,I believe,a quid pro quo decision. Anyway, the decision has been made now and it's time to move on. A lot of the previews and analysis of the game thusfar has been stained by talk of sendings off and venues. Mayo will need to play about 50/55mins of high octane stuff tomorrow, we will have to defend with greater discipline and not give up so many kickable frees. We scored 16 times from play last Sunday, Mayo scored 10 times. That is what gives us a chance against them every time. It won't be easy but if we can have a couple of good spells, we should out score them. Above all, I hope for a right performance from Kerry tomorrow. Can't wait for the game, nothing beats being involved in the championship at this time of the year. It would be great to make the final 3 weeks on Sunday. Go n-éirí libh a fheara! Safe travel to all supporters tomorrow, up the kingdom!
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 29, 2014 17:53:32 GMT
If I was to drop anyone from that full backline it would be Marc. He has been poor the last two games. And I dont subscribe to this bullsh*t "he plays well in big games....you can always count on" We hear this about older players every year. The management either have the balls to drop under performing players or not. I love the O Se's but I'm afraid you're right. He needs to make a big improvement. Not playing his best but remember that it was Marc keeping the ball in play that got us the last point. If he wasn't where he was to do that last Sunday, whether he lines out or not tomorrow would be purely hypothetical.
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Post by patinkerry on Aug 29, 2014 17:55:54 GMT
Anyone need tickets for the match tomorrow, please personal message me. I have some spare.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 29, 2014 18:24:32 GMT
The following is the Garda Traffic Management Plan to cater for the match, including road closures and diversions.
• The Garda advice to patrons is to arrive in plenty of time to park up cars legally, i.e. not causing obstruction, on green areas or on locations where parking is prohibited.
• Cars illegally parked will be ticketed and those causing obstruction are likely to be towed away by Gardai.
• Patrons are advised to use Street and Off Street Parking in the City and avail of the Bus Eireann service from Lower Henry Street to travel or to take the 15 / 20 minutes to walk out to the venue as they will be caught up in traffic if they cross the bridges in the City out to the venue.
• Patrons are also advised to avail of the Park and Ride service that will be provided in Limerick at the Woodlands Hotel, Adare / Radisson Hotel and Kilmurray Lodge Hotel. In Clare from the West County Hotel Ennis and Dirty Nelly’s public house in Bunratty.
Road Closures/ diversions will be likely to apply from 2pm onwards at the following locations;
• Ennis Road at its junction with Ivan’s Cross – traffic will be diverted to Northern Ring Road and towards Clonmacken
• Ennis Road at its junction with Sarsfield Bridge – traffic will be diverted along Clancy Strand. O’Callaghan Strand will be closed off to traffic.
• Condell Road / Lower Shelbourne Road – traffic will not be permitted to travel onto North Circular Road or onto Shelbourne Road.
• Shelbourne Road / Hassetts Cross – no traffic will be permitted to travel up Shelbourne Road
• Old Cratloe Road at its junction with Mayorstone Drive
• Old Cratloe Road at its junction with Mayorstone Upper
• Old Cratloe Road at its junction with Mayorstone Upper & LIT Roundabout (Merval Pk)
• Road Closures/ diversions will be likely to apply from 3pm onwards at the following locations:
• Coonagh Roundabout – Closed to all inbound traffic from 3pm. Divert onto the Condell Road for Parking in City Centre.
Match attendants are strongly advised to travel early and to park on and off street in and adjacent to the City Centre and to allow ample time to walk to the Gaelic Grounds.
Special off street match parking tariffs including overnight parking will be available at City Centre car parks. Disabled Parking will be available at the Ryan Hotel Ennis Road Limerick.
Match attendants are advised that obstructive vehicle parking will be subject to tow-away operations.
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Post by southward on Aug 29, 2014 18:57:13 GMT
Watched first game again last night (on mute, couldn't stomach T Carr). Crowley was immense in the last ten minutes. He made a great run for a vital point to cut the gap back to 4. He then horsed Seamus O Shea off the ball under the Hogan. He also picked up a vital break that led to either the goal or the equaliser, I can't recall. OK he gave away the peno but I didn't see any other Kerry defender make an attempt to stop Vaughan. It's clear to me he's a big game player as he showed also last year v Dublin. More of the same again Saturday Peter. I can't forgive him for the penalty, it was a dumbass move which was 100% unnecessary. But aside from that, yes he had an excellent game, and after the penalty he lifted his game even more which is a great sign. Have to disagree seamo; the other defenders were backing off and with Vaughan's momentum, he surely would have buried it. I think, on balance, it was worth a go and even if he wasn't going to make it in time for the perfect shoulder, there was always a chance he might just get away with it anyway (mind you, the way Coldrick was going, probably not).
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Post by givehimaball on Aug 29, 2014 19:52:45 GMT
After all, penalties get stopped often enough. From Dont Foul - Over the last 3 championships the scoring rate for penalties is 88%. There's also the fact that shots from play have a 45% rate of success compared to shot from deadballs over being 66% You can't obviously say that it was the "wrong" decision to give away the penalty but with 3 men in the way I think that Peter may have been better off not diving in. dontfoul.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/what-lies-beneath-success-rates-for-various-shot-types/
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Post by wayupnorth on Aug 29, 2014 20:08:17 GMT
Mayo Pilgrims take note. I will be leaving North Antrim early tomorrow morning and don't expect to get home until late Sunday afternoon. it's not just Mayo supporters that would prefer the match to be in Croke Park - it would probably have suited me better if it was in Croke Patrick.
Anyway - safe journey there and home to all travelling including the Pilgrims.
Ciarrai go deo!
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Post by mafi97 on Aug 29, 2014 20:31:08 GMT
The condescending attitude of some Kerry supporters here is pretty sickening. People expressing a grievance towards what is (are) clearly awful decision (s) is not something for someone to criticise others for, simply because they themselves are "over a certain age" or "saw the game in black and white", and see themselves as "true Kerry fans" . These decisions are in the here and now, we don't have to have seen a game in black and white to express our views. As I've said before, if you don't know sh!t about what your talking about, than say nothing!!!! So save us the condescending bs about age and what a "true Kerry fan is". I remember about 30 years ago, a radio interview by Donncha O'Dulaing (spelling? ) with a guy called Denis Conroy who was for a number of years, Chairman of the Cork County Board. Both supreme spoofers. They were speaking about Cork v Tipperary Munster Hurling Finals. Both agreed (at length), that unless you had cycled to Thurles during the war years for Cork/Tipp Finals, you had not experienced the unique quality of Munster Hurling Final days. (In fairness, they were referring to the WW11 - not WW1). Now, I want to try my hand at this condescending lark. Watching games in "black and white"!!!! Yerra, that was pure luxury. You missed out on the vagaries of the old battery radios. These mostly worked pretty well - except when there was a important football match. For the 1952 Munster Final, we had the radio well "warmed up", then it promptly degenerated into a crackling, cackling cacophony of sounds interspersed with wave-like sounds from the deepest Atlantic. All of us watched that radio for the next 85 minutes, with hardly a word spoken, in case we missed the odd bit of commentary that might come through - which never came. But, to a man (and boy), we held our posts. Real Kerry followers!!! That was the day when Paddy Bawn and Marcus O'Neill performed heroics to ensure that Cork only beat us by eleven points to two. That was the day, my father, (a near teetotaller), arrived home with two boyos, full of loose porter (the pint as we know it today had not yet been developed) and they proceeded to demonstrate Bawn's defiance of Cork up and down our kitchen. Not only real followers, but real drinkers. Jeeze, I wish we had it in "black and white" that day. Speaking of Paddy Bawn, the first time I saw Kerry play, was in 1950 when the Con Keating Park was opened. Bawn was playing that day and he came across by trawler from Dingle. Legend had it that he caught a load of fish on the way over. Of course that wasn't true at all - he caught them on his way home. It was part of his warm down routine!!!!. Jeeze, they were men. But as you say, we are in the "here and now". Is it ok if I express a view? I promise not to condescend. One of my oddities is that, at a game, I speak not one word. Total concentration. Apart from focussing on the game, I pick two players who I keep a "third eye" on - I keep an eye on them, on the ball, off the ball, during stoppages, even during flare-ups. It is so informative. One of my players last Sunday was Donnchadh Walsh. All I can say, is that his was an extraordinary performance. Some times I would mentally say "Where is he off to now" - seconds later, I would see why he made a particular run. If I was marking him, I'd be seconds later as well. He must be a nightmare to mark. When James O'Donoghue sent across that beautiful cross that just went over Donnchadh's head, where had Donnchadh come from? I ask the question because, even though I was tracking him diligently, I had lost him. Last night was my first time to see a re-run of the match. Watching it on TV, one cannot pick up the totality of Donnchadh's performance. In the 1960's, Spurs had an inside forward called John White, who was known as "The Ghost" - because of his knack of sliding into dangerous positions from nowhere. I would suggest that Donnchadh should be known as "The Ghost", if it wasn't for the sheer bloody amount of visible hard work that he does. That is why the lazy journalists refer to him as a workhorse. For the life of me, I cannot remember a Kerry player who was so underrated. I wonder what he would have looked like in "black and white"? Mighty altogether, I would say!!! And as for "seeing him on the wireless" - he would have been stellar. Is it not ironic that in this age of colour and hyperbole (and noisy analysis) - he is described as a workhorse.
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Post by seamo on Aug 29, 2014 20:39:30 GMT
The condescending attitude of some Kerry supporters here is pretty sickening. People expressing a grievance towards what is (are) clearly awful decision (s) is not something for someone to criticise others for, simply because they themselves are "over a certain age" or "saw the game in black and white", and see themselves as "true Kerry fans" . These decisions are in the here and now, we don't have to have seen a game in black and white to express our views. As I've said before, if you don't know sh!t about what your talking about, than say nothing!!!! So save us the condescending bs about age and what a "true Kerry fan is". I remember about 30 years ago, a radio interview by Donncha O'Dulaing (spelling? ) with a guy called Denis Conroy who was for a number of years, Chairman of the Cork County Board. Both supreme spoofers. They were speaking about Cork v Tipperary Munster Hurling Finals. Both agreed (at length), that unless you had cycled to Thurles during the war years for Cork/Tipp Finals, you had not experienced the unique quality of Munster Hurling Final days. (In fairness, they were referring to the WW11 - not WW1). Now, I want to try my hand at this condescending lark. Watching games in "black and white"!!!! Yerra, that was pure luxury. You missed out on the vagaries of the old battery radios. These mostly worked pretty well - except when there was a important football match. For the 1952 Munster Final, we had the radio well "warmed up", then it promptly degenerated into a crackling, cackling cacophony of sounds interspersed with wave-like sounds from the deepest Atlantic. All of us watched that radio for the next 85 minutes, with hardly a word spoken, in case we missed the odd bit of commentary that might come through - which never came. But, to a man (and boy), we held our posts. Real Kerry followers!!! That was the day when Paddy Bawn and Marcus O'Neill performed heroics to ensure that Cork only beat us by eleven points to two. That was the day, my father, (a near teetotaller), arrived home with two boyos, full of loose porter (the pint as we know it today had not yet been developed) and they proceeded to demonstrate Bawn's defiance of Cork up and down our kitchen. Not only real followers, but real drinkers. Jeeze, I wish we had it in "black and white" that day. Speaking of Paddy Bawn, the first time I saw Kerry play, was in 1950 when the Con Keating Park was opened. Bawn was playing that day and he came across by trawler from Dingle. Legend had it that he caught a load of fish on the way over. Of course that wasn't true at all - he caught them on his way home. It was part of his warm down routine!!!!. Jeeze, they were men. But as you say, we are in the "here and now". Is it ok if I express a view? I promise not to condescend. One of my oddities is that, at a game, I speak not one word. Total concentration. Apart from focussing on the game, I pick two players who I keep a "third eye" on - I keep an eye on them, on the ball, off the ball, during stoppages, even during flare-ups. It is so informative. One of my players last Sunday was Donnchadh Walsh. All I can say, is that his was an extraordinary performance. Some times I would mentally say "Where is he off to now" - seconds later, I would see why he made a particular run. If I was marking him, I'd be seconds later as well. He must be a nightmare to mark. When James O'Donoghue sent across that beautiful cross that just went over Donnchadh's head, where had Donnchadh come from? I ask the question because, even though I was tracking him diligently, I had lost him. Last night was my first time to see a re-run of the match. Watching it on TV, one cannot pick up the totality of Donnchadh's performance. In the 1960's, Spurs had an inside forward called John White, who was known as "The Ghost" - because of his knack of sliding into dangerous positions from nowhere. I would suggest that Donnchadh should be known as "The Ghost", if it wasn't for the sheer bloody amount of visible hard work that he does. That is why the lazy journalists refer to him as a workhorse. For the life of me, I cannot remember a Kerry player who was so underrated. I wonder what he would have looked like in "black and white"? Mighty altogether, I would say!!! And as for "seeing him on the wireless" - he would have been stellar. Is it not ironic that in this age of colour and hyperbole (and noisy analysis) - he is described as a workhorse. hahaha the first half of your post reminded me of that Monty Python sketch...four yorkshiremen!! Yeah couldn't agree with you more on Donnacha, you'd have to wonder why he isn't creeping into conversations for FOTY. Ever since Tadgh came over and bled us, Donnacha's game has gone to a whole new level, reckon he took it bad when he was dropped for Tadgh that year.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 29, 2014 20:45:26 GMT
MAFI97... NEE VECAMID A LEHADI ARIS ANN
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Aug 29, 2014 21:02:15 GMT
.. One of my players last Sunday was Donnchadh Walsh. All I can say, is that his was an extraordinary performance. Some times I would mentally say "Where is he off to now" - seconds later, I would see why he made a particular run. If I was marking him, I'd be seconds later as well. He must be a nightmare to mark. When James O'Donoghue sent across that beautiful cross that just went over Donnchadh's head, where had Donnchadh come from? I ask the question because, even though I was tracking him diligently, I had lost him. Last night was my first time to see a re-run of the match. Watching it on TV, one cannot pick up the totality of Donnchadh's performance. In the 1960's, Spurs had an inside forward called John White, who was known as "The Ghost" - because of his knack of sliding into dangerous positions from nowhere. I would suggest that Donnchadh should be known as "The Ghost", if it wasn't for the sheer bloody amount of visible hard work that he does. That is why the lazy journalists refer to him as a workhorse. For the life of me, I cannot remember a Kerry player who was so underrated. I wonder what he would have looked like in "black and white"? Mighty altogether, I would say!!! I was speaking with someone who was marking Donnchadh in early season training for Kerry one Spring and he said that he is a nightmare to mark. As an example he said the first thing he does is pretty much sprint back and forth between his wing and the diagonal opposite (12 - 5 - 12) --- he will do this a couple of times at the start of the match and his marker can't keep up with this messing. In the past this meant an emptying of the tank but not so much anymore! It also means he does indeed ghost into tremendous positions; e.g. his goal against Dublin last year. I felt that perhaps he rather than JOD should have procured an All Star last year. His turning of Jack McCaffery was superb and a great effort. I can only hope that he gets as much out of it as he puts in. I think more than anyone else over the last 15 years he has been a true warrior of the Kingdom. And... he might be seen by some to not be as skillful as some of his colleagues... quite apart from the fact that attitude and hard work beat skill hands down, he pointed from 40 yards on Sunday and there are whole swathes of teams who don't seem to have the personnel to accurately kick scores from this distance. Actually when I think about it... he is not a man who I see kicking wides... I used to see him experience a few failures in skill execution but not so much this year.
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Post by veteran on Aug 29, 2014 21:19:45 GMT
As far as I know, Mayo will be selecting from a full pack tomorrow while we have serious doubts over Bryan Sheehan, Declan and Stephen O'Brien. If all those were available for selection I feel most of us would plump for Kerry. This is a testament to Eamon and friends considering the loss of so many players through retirement and of course Colm's unavailability as well. At the very least, there is great hope for 2015.
Last week I expressed the wish that if Kerry were to be beaten they would go down roaring. Roar they did with the bonus that they did not go down. It is incontestable that Mayo were extraordinary for a long spell in the second half. That spell of furious football has tended to erase from the memory how good Kerry were in the first half, building up a three/four point lead when Mayo were playing with a full hand.
The commentariat suggest that Mayo will win if they reproduce that irrepressible football of the the second half. They will produce it if they are allowed. I believe they will not be allowed reprise that effort. In spite of their injury catalogue, this is a very gutsy Kerry team. They are well prepared and I will be surprised if they do not at least take Mayo to the precipice. I will not be surprised if they win.
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