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Post by seamo on Apr 28, 2014 9:41:29 GMT
Its not a good sign for football. Mickmack that is a wreckless and sensationalist statement and I demand that you withdraw it at your earliest convenience. Finuge are a Division 1 side in the Co. League. They were promoted as Champions and it might not have come to your attention that a former player of the year happens to play for them on the odd occasion. Kenmare could not be fancied for this competition. They don't seem to have improved since they won the Munster Junior Championship in 2012 and contested the All Ireland Junior Football Championship Final in 2013. The won 5 games in Division 2 last year when people were expecting a bit more. St. Mary's beat Listowel Emmets in last years Semi Final by a solitary point that was scored in injury time. They were well held in the Final by Currow. In actual fact St. Mary's beat Ardfert in Ardfert 1-08 to 0-08 on 30th March in Division 3 of County League so there probably isn't a whole lot between the sides (now the point here is that they are both Division 3 sides that can box above their weight when the mood takes them). The Intermediate Championship is a very open competition this year. Last year a Division 2 and a Division 3 side contested the Final. This year there are 2 Division 1 sides left, 4 Division 2 sides and 2 sides from Division 3. Lets not over-react!!!!! It was an ill-informed statement from Mickmack, as was the statement from Finuge86. Those clubs are duel clubs at the very most, actually if they are one or the other, it's football. Can't use the excuse during the hurling championship that your players have been training with the footballers and then turn around and say your a hurling club. AI success + superstar footballer have insured this over the past 10 years. Well done to both clubs and the other winners over the weekend, move on...
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Post by wornout2 on Apr 28, 2014 11:29:18 GMT
Finuge were also reduced to 13 in that All-Ireland Final.. Ardfert and Finuge are always very difficult to beat so it's no surprise that they won.. Very open championship. Going on league form I thought Kenmare would be right in the mix. Shows the difference between league and championship!
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Post by finuge86 on Apr 28, 2014 12:13:59 GMT
Ardfert an finuge players would pick hurling first every time!! Championship is different league wen it comes down to tough hard championship football the likes of ardfert finuge will never be found wanting where as the south kerry teams don't lik to mix it at all!! Every year the kerryseye an kerry man write of the north kerry teams!! I predict the 4 winners will b finuge listowel castle island and ardfert!!
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Post by sidelined on Apr 28, 2014 12:43:12 GMT
a repeat of north kerry final [hawk eye on standby] for the final
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Post by seamo on Apr 28, 2014 13:10:50 GMT
Ardfert an finuge players would pick hurling first every time!! Championship is different league wen it comes down to tough hard championship football the likes of ardfert finuge will never be found wanting where as the south kerry teams don't lik to mix it at all!! Every year the kerryseye an kerry man write of the north kerry teams!! I predict the 4 winners will b finuge listowel castle island and ardfert!! They tip the North Kerry sides plenty of time, especially Listowel, or do they not count? It's easy to say they'd pick hurling, but fact is that the players have put more time into football and therefore the label of "hurling club" doesn't stick. Ardfert and Finuge are excellent clubs and football sides, don't look for anymore credit than that.
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Post by finuge86 on Apr 28, 2014 13:33:52 GMT
Your wrong!! Ardfert won the hurling last year for the first time in 23 years an have never win back to back championships if you think they put more into football u obviously don't no any1 on the ardfert team personally!! I'm not sayin they don't care about football but hurling comes first!! An that's the same with lixnaw/finuge!! This time of year in particular ardfert lose possibly 3 of their best players john Egan Darren Dineen an Rory Horgan I no Rory not with the hurlers this year but every other year he is!! An then wen that's over it's hurling championship time in the summer!! I no from talking to a few ardfert lads the few games they had their full side last year they hammered listowel an gneeveguilla in co league drew with currie every other game they wer missing a good few an also wer forced to play kenmare in co league game in between the drawn co final an replay but again due to hurling commitments they wer relegated an against st Mary's was there first time having the hurlers available!! So to say they put more into football is totally wrong an finuge are the same I'm just using ardfert as an example not to b bias
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Post by mossie on Apr 28, 2014 23:04:57 GMT
Ardfert and Finuge are dual clubs now end of story
I do think hurling means more to people in Lixnaw and Ardfert though than football when it comes down to it.
What they have achieved in football bu Ardfert and Finuge at Kerry, Munster and all Ireland level is nothing short of amazing especially when you consider their dual commitments.
I think some clubs outside North Kerry underestimate Ardfert and Finuge at times. Both are seriously resilent teams who have been written off time and time again. You would expect football only clubs to have the measure of them but it doesn't work out that way. For example in the 10 days leading up to the intermediate football championship St Brendans Ardfert and Lixnaw played 2 hurling co league games. Football only clubs would have had a clearer run at it. maybe ardfert amd finuge were better off with the hurling games! Its a pity some of the football clubs don't give hurling a chance in the same way as Ardfert and Finuge\Lixnaw promote both codes
Kenmare play hurling as well which shouldn't be forgotten
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Post by 63587614 on Apr 29, 2014 12:44:58 GMT
Lads not trying to stir the pot, but what is the actual agrument here.
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Post by buck02 on Apr 29, 2014 13:15:04 GMT
QUARTER FINAL DRAW: Castleisland Desmonds v Gneeveguilla - Castleisland Glenflesk v Finuge - Finuge Listowel Emmets v Spa - Listowel Ardfert v John Mitchels - Ardfert I think Mitchels could take Ardfert. Desmonds, Finuge and Listowel to come through the others.
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Post by finuge86 on Apr 29, 2014 20:22:07 GMT
What makes u think mitchels will take ardfert??
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Post by abù on Apr 29, 2014 20:54:44 GMT
What makes u think mitchels will take ardfert?? Because they are a hurling club and hurling clubs would hardly upset the odds in 2 successive games???!!!! ? ?
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Post by seamo on Apr 29, 2014 21:09:12 GMT
What makes u think mitchels will take ardfert?? Why question the one and only prediction he has a North Kerry side losing?
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Post by finuge86 on Apr 30, 2014 6:52:06 GMT
What makes u think mitchels will take ardfert?? Why question the one and only prediction he has a North Kerry side losing? Because it just proves everything I said ye keep underestimating these teams!! Lets face it the mitchels have no chance of going to play ardfert in ardfert an winning!! Their record in this competition is very poor I remember finuge playing them in Tralee a few years ago an they had no clue how to play against us and by all accounts wer lucky to beat skellig rangers ardfert will b able to stop there forward threat an beat them comfortably 5 points +
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Post by buck02 on Apr 30, 2014 7:44:13 GMT
What makes u think mitchels will take ardfert?? Ardfert have lost two games in Division 3. Mitchels have bounced back well from defeat in round 1 to win 2 games and their intermediate game. I don't think there is a major difference between league and championship at this time of year. The new rules should suit Mitchels forwards. I just think if there is a strong ref and conditions are ok they can beat Ardfert.
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Post by 63587614 on Apr 30, 2014 10:16:05 GMT
If Mitchels are allowed to shake off the El Trap tactics i believe they have the talent and fwds to beat Arfert. Certainly there is no fear there anyway, irrespective of pitch location.
Remember this Ardfert team have been on the road a long time and as pointed are in Div 3. This is a young and rising Mitchel's team, i think it's been a good draw for them.
Hope to catch this game and that's a good entertaining game of football.
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Post by 63587614 on Apr 30, 2014 10:18:59 GMT
Ps if that Finuge game you are referring to was the game played in Mitchels a couple of seasons ago, my abiding memory was the officals lack of fortitude to award a clear penalty at the end.
I will give you one thing though, Mitchels did play into Finuges hand. Again a team i would hold no fear of. Fitzmaurice/Galvin's were the obvious driving forces. I believe Galvin only plays part-time as he's concentraing on his blog and marriage to Today FM, Mary Kennedy is it.
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Post by finuge86 on Apr 30, 2014 12:13:28 GMT
Yes would have been quater final I think finuge won it out after!! In that mitchels game wer never in danger of losing!! And with reference to ardfert losing 2 games in co league I already said that last sat was there first time all year with there kerry hurling contingent!! And also pretty certain one loss was away to templenoe who are a an up coming team and the other was to Mary's which was put right this week!! There will b no el trap tactics either it b man for man but will b very tough as always is against north kerry teams u will see the mitchels drop 2 back and leave the 4 fast lads upfront but again they will win beaten comfortably!! I presume Christy ring hurling will hold this competition up??
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Post by Weeshie on Apr 30, 2014 13:28:31 GMT
QUARTER FINAL DRAW: Castleisland Desmonds v Gneeveguilla - Castleisland Glenflesk v Finuge - Glenflesk Listowel Emmets v Spa - Spa Ardfert v John Mitchels - John Mitchels Anyone know when the next round is to be played? Read more: kerrygaa.proboards.com/thread/5401?page=1#ixzz30NN7aLX4
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Post by seamo on Apr 30, 2014 16:15:25 GMT
Why question the one and only prediction he has a North Kerry side losing? Because it just proves everything I said ye keep underestimating these teams!! Lets face it the mitchels have no chance of going to play ardfert in ardfert an winning!! Their record in this competition is very poor I remember finuge playing them in Tralee a few years ago an they had no clue how to play against us and by all accounts wer lucky to beat skellig rangers ardfert will b able to stop there forward threat an beat them comfortably 5 points + Underestimating who? By your logic any team that is predicted to lose is being underestimated. A few years ago was a few years ago, both teams will have changed alot and Mitchels have some good young players who have come through over the past few years. Don't question a prediction just because it doesn't suit your North Kerry bias. Perfectly reasonable to think Mitchels could beat Ardfert (not saying they will), but it's far more likely Mitchels beat Ardfert, than Castleisland beating Gneeveguilla; and it's reasonable to think that Spa could turn over Listowel.
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Post by keepitsimple on Apr 30, 2014 17:52:28 GMT
Sorry to butt in but id fancy Ardfert to beat Mitchells, the Ardfert boys have 2 all Irelands under their belts and are opposition for anyone on their home patch. I also feel that Desmonds will beat Gneevguilla and I would fancy Spa to beat Listowel...........
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Post by 1955 on Apr 30, 2014 20:55:49 GMT
If I am not mistaken St Mary's walloped John Mitchell's last year in the 2nd round of the intermediate played in Tralee. John Mitchell's under their present regime will play into Ardfert's hands.The freeflowing football so beloved by many is now forfeit to the defensive gameplan from the south
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Post by seamo on Apr 30, 2014 21:13:27 GMT
If I am not mistaken St Mary's walloped John Mitchell's last year in the 2nd round of the intermediate played in Tralee. John Mitchell's under their present regime will play into Ardfert's hands.The freeflowing football so beloved by many is now forfeit to the defensive gameplan from the south ffs
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Post by Premier on Apr 30, 2014 21:17:09 GMT
If I am not mistaken St Mary's walloped John Mitchell's last year in the 2nd round of the intermediate played in Tralee. John Mitchell's under their present regime will play into Ardfert's hands.The freeflowing football so beloved by many is now forfeit to the defensive gameplan from the south Based on this, would I be right to suggest that there is discontent with James Mike's system?
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Post by 1955 on Apr 30, 2014 21:19:22 GMT
Will win nothing asking natural forwards to become covering defenders
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 22:28:16 GMT
The tactics by mitchels are out dated and horrible to watch makes my stomach turn thinking about it but that james mike man won the competion like that before if it works fair play but Football has changed look at the dubs and Kerry that's how u win football matches
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Post by desmondsman99 on May 3, 2014 17:09:41 GMT
[/quote]author=" seamo"] A few years ago was a few years ago, both teams will have changed alot and Mitchels have some good young players who have come through over the past few years. Don't question a prediction just because it doesn't suit your North Kerry bias. Perfectly reasonable to think Mitchels could beat Ardfert (not saying they will), but it's far more likely Mitchels beat Ardfert, than Castleisland beating Gneeveguilla; and it's reasonable to think that Spa could turn over Listowel. Interesting comment saying that it'a far more likely that Mitchels beat Ardfert than Desmond's overturning Gneeveguilla. Getting over Waterville was huge for this team, and Desmond's would fancy themselves against most at home. On the otherhand that Gneeveguilla team is on the road for quite a while, and although they are still obviously a talented bunch I would fancy us to shade it tonight, with home advantage proving crucial. Kerry minor Cian O'Connor has returned to fitness and will be a big plus, he played against Waterville but wasn't 100%. I think it will be a fantastic game regardless, and may the best team win.
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Post by seamo on May 3, 2014 17:20:09 GMT
author=" seamo"] A few years ago was a few years ago, both teams will have changed alot and Mitchels have some good young players who have come through over the past few years. Don't question a prediction just because it doesn't suit your North Kerry bias. Perfectly reasonable to think Mitchels could beat Ardfert (not saying they will), but it's far more likely Mitchels beat Ardfert, than Castleisland beating Gneeveguilla; and it's reasonable to think that Spa could turn over Listowel. Interesting comment saying that it'a far more likely that Mitchels beat Ardfert than Desmond's overturning Gneeveguilla. Getting over Waterville was huge for this team, and Desmond's would fancy themselves against most at home. On the otherhand that Gneeveguilla team is on the road for quite a while, and although they are still obviously a talented bunch I would fancy us to shade it tonight, with home advantage proving crucial. Kerry minor Cian O'Connor has returned to fitness and will be a big plus, he played against Waterville but wasn't 100%. I think it will be a fantastic game regardless, and may the best team win. [/quote] Yeah Desmonds could well win, at this stage and given it's championship these games could go either way.
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Post by desmondsman99 on May 3, 2014 19:53:15 GMT
Desmonds hold off Gneeveguilla with the final score being 1-6 to 0-7. It was poor enough fare from both sides, but we're through to the semi's so I'm delighted. I felt we deserved the win overall, a huge goal chance in the first half went a begging which would have given us some breathing space. Gneeveguilla were always in contention but had missed a lot of scoring chances. Desmonds missed there fair share too, with atleast 3 scorable frees being missed in the 2nd half alone. The turning point was the goal, a great ball by Sean Lynch found Thomas Hickey who turned his man and was through on goals. He was unceremoniously pulled to the ground, for an obvious penalty. Hickey dispatched it well, and the goal gave Desmonds something to hold onto for the rest of the game, which we just about managed. Not a great performance from us, but we were dogged and determined throughout and found a way, much like against Waterville in extra time in the last game, we found a way. Best for us was Thomas Hickey, Sean Lynch, Niall Mitchell and Maurice Lynch, with Maurice Hickey also putting in a good performance. You take the wins anyway you can get them in this tournament! Any final scores on the other games?
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Post by keepitsimple on May 3, 2014 22:38:19 GMT
Poor game, Gneevguilla were very poor at times and lacked their traditional passion until timmie o leary came on and shook things up a bit. To be fair Desmonds shoulf have bern a good 7 or 8 points up at half time, poor control and a totsl over reliance on thomas hickey almost embarrasing, with a playrr of the calibre of kirran brennan inside as well it it eas hard to understand. Will desmonds win d championship? Maybe, they will have to improve though
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Post by givehimaball on May 11, 2014 15:43:47 GMT
Listowel and Spa draw after ET 1-14 each.
Just from seeing the score on Twitter, sounds like it was an exciting one.
Was Spa 1-8 Listowel 0-2 at HT so a decent fight-back by Listowel
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