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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 21:13:38 GMT
I would be delighted if that was true . We need someone like Jack O'Connor . He would be perfect . Mike Quirke and John Galvin are well in tune with Underage Football in Kerry .
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Post by Callitasitis on Aug 16, 2013 21:38:59 GMT
The new kerry minor management will be made up of jack o Conor john galvin Michael o Shea and Arthur Fitzgerald all thought I think its a bit unfair that the current management team are not been given 1st refusal on taking the job again
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Post by shannonsider on Aug 17, 2013 0:26:52 GMT
The new kerry minor management will be made up of jack o Conor john galvin Michael o Shea and Arthur Fitzgerald all thought I think its a bit unfair that the current management team are not been given 1st refusal on taking the job again If that turns out to be true I wouldn't be totally unhappy with that. Far better selectors than last 2 years in my view. Micheál O'Sé has been involved with development squads and successful colleges teams and is a young guy who knows the game, I like to see those type of fellas involved. John Galvin knows his stuff also. Don't know much about Arthur Fitz.
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Post by Callitasitis on Aug 17, 2013 6:53:18 GMT
Arthur is an excellent strength and conditioning coach would be in charge of the physical training
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Post by ciarrai91 on Aug 17, 2013 10:05:12 GMT
rumours around killarney are that John Galvin will be manager with John Rice from Fossa as a selector. Would be a shrewd decision
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Post by dingle101 on Aug 17, 2013 17:55:37 GMT
Brian rayle from lispole would be a great centre/half forward, missed out last year recovering from an torn ligimint.
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Post by dingle123 on Aug 18, 2013 22:07:07 GMT
The reliables such as Micheal Burns Killian Spillane and Matthew Flaherty will all be main men.Younger players who may get a run are conor geaney dingle evan cronin spa mark sugrue renard sean bambury and jason foley ballydonoghue gavin white crokes in my opinion
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Post by dingle101 on Aug 18, 2013 23:56:06 GMT
The reliables such as Micheal Burns Killian Spillane and Matthew Flaherty will all be main men.Younger players who may get a run are conor geaney dingle evan cronin spa mark sugrue renard sean bambury dingle darragh brosnan gneeveguilla and jason foley ballydonoghue gavin white crokes in my opinion dingle123 Sean bambury is from an gaeltacht... Only space for 1 dingle man on this page
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Post by buck02 on Aug 21, 2013 11:03:35 GMT
Mickey Ned confirmed to the Kerryman that he will be seeking another term along with Johnno & Peter Keane.
This could get messy.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 21, 2013 11:25:11 GMT
Mickey Ned confirmed to the Kerryman that he will be seeking another term along with Johnno & Peter Keane. This could get messy. No, just no. Two years and they only really won one big game-the Munster final this year and that was when Tipp had been reduced to 14 for more than half the game. They beat Roscommon last year but it's hard to gauge how good that Ros team was and they should have beaten Kerry well except they kicked about 20 something wides (they should have had 3 goals in the first 5 minutes). The players were most certainly there, especially this year, but the tactics/selection let them down greatly and they ended up losing when confronted by good teams- Tipp twice & Dublin last year along with Cork & Tyrone this year. If they are ratified then I wonder who the wild card, playing out of position players will be? Killian Spillane looked good attacking with the ball from deep so expect him at wing or centre back. Shane Ryan is tall and has good hand so full forward. Matthew F is tenacious and delivers good ball into the full-forward line so he will prob be played centre forward. For god sake- close the bloody mad house that has become our underage structure
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Post by stacks on Aug 21, 2013 17:04:38 GMT
Mickey Ned confirmed to the Kerryman that he will be seeking another term along with Johnno & Peter Keane. This could get messy. No, just no. Two years and they only really won one big game-the Munster final this year and that was when Tipp had been reduced to 14 for more than half the game. They beat Roscommon last year but it's hard to gauge how good that Ros team was and they should have beaten Kerry well except they kicked about 20 something wides (they should have had 3 goals in the first 5 minutes). The players were most certainly there, especially this year, but the tactics/selection let them down greatly and they ended up losing when confronted by good teams- Tipp twice & Dublin last year along with Cork & Tyrone this year. If they are ratified then I wonder who the wild card, playing out of position players will be? Killian Spillane looked good attacking with the ball from deep so expect him at wing or centre back. Shane Ryan is tall and has good hand so full forward. Matthew F is tenacious and delivers good ball into the full-forward line so he will prob be played centre forward. For god sake- close the bloody mad house that has become our underage structure
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Post by stacks on Aug 21, 2013 17:05:55 GMT
Oh God Please No .. I hope they don't get back in . We need a change . It's time for new people . In my opinion we will go backwards if they get back in .
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Post by seamo on Aug 21, 2013 19:33:16 GMT
Well if there's the option of a management team involving Jack O Connor in some role, then I think there's little else to think about.
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Post by Callitasitis on Aug 21, 2013 22:19:28 GMT
The present kerry u16 development squad management team of john galvin, john rice, mike hussey, Arthur Fitzgerald and Paul fitzmaurice will be the next kerry minor management team you can put ur house on it ...
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Post by KY50 on Aug 22, 2013 8:55:31 GMT
There has been improvement since Mickey Ned has taken over, we are now competitive again and I believe that the Tyrone team that beat us will win the final. We were also beaten by last years winners. The real problem here is that the proper resources have not been allocated at underage level, we are behind in terms of preparation, conditioning, tactics etc...
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 22, 2013 9:02:11 GMT
There has been improvement since Mickey Ned has taken over, we are now competitive again and I believe that the Tyrone team that beat us will win the final. We were also beaten by last years winners. The real problem here is that the proper resources have not been allocated at underage level, we are behind in terms of preparation, conditioning, tactics etc... The year before Mickey Ned came- we lost to the AI champions by a point, it was just an unlucky first round draw. When haven't we been competitive?
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Post by stacks on Aug 22, 2013 13:24:05 GMT
We have definitely improved . If you look at '08 , '09 , and 2010 we were well beaten by Mayo , Armagh , and Tyrone . I think this years team is the best team since 2006 . I would be optimistic that we will see 6 or 7 of them playing Senior in the future . Shane Ryan , Pat O'Connor , Matt Flaherty , David Foran ,Miceal Burns , Jack Savage ,Conor Keane , and Killian Spillane have the ability to make it . I think we have good players in the County all the way to u14 level . If we can get the right people in charge we should be good at Minor level until at least 2018 .
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Post by Callitasitis on Aug 22, 2013 16:51:31 GMT
Its really unfair to be so critical of the current minor team management. In 2yrs they played 13 championship matches winning 8 losing 4 and drawing 1 which is a pretty good record. I know you can make the argument that a lot of those wins were against weaker counties but one has to relise that you are dealing with 17/18 yr old players when, as anyone that has trained an u16-minor team knows, you don't know what kind of performance your really going to get from them. At the end of the day minor football is all about developing senior players for the future and winning all Irelands is a bonus. Think of all the great players this county has produced that have no minor all Ireland medal but numerous senior medals. Overall I think the present minor management team have done very well in the structures they put in place in developing our underage footballers and the standard of coaching and preparation has been brought to another level. I was very impressed by much of what Mickey Ned said in the article in this weeks kerryman especially the need for a structure to be put in place to monitor our top 10 or so minor players till they make the u21 panel, this is where I see we loose many of our quality players and therefore a lot of time and resources has been lost with them
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 22, 2013 19:09:19 GMT
Its really unfair to be so critical of the current minor team management. In 2yrs they played 13 championship matches winning 8 losing 4 and drawing 1 which is a pretty good record. I know you can make the argument that a lot of those wins were against weaker counties but one has to relise that you are dealing with 17/18 yr old players when, as anyone that has trained an u16-minor team knows, you don't know what kind of performance your really going to get from them. At the end of the day minor football is all about developing senior players for the future and winning all Irelands is a bonus. Think of all the great players this county has produced that have no minor all Ireland medal but numerous senior medals. Overall I think the present minor management team have done very well in the structures they put in place in developing our underage footballers and the standard of coaching and preparation has been brought to another level. I was very impressed by much of what Mickey Ned said in the article in this weeks kerryman especially the need for a structure to be put in place to monitor our top 10 or so minor players till they make the u21 panel, this is where I see we loose many of our quality players and therefore a lot of time and resources has been lost with them With all due respect Ricky- this is revisionist rubbish on your part. They had an excellent team this year and came up short- as I stated earlier they have only beaten one county that could be considered an AI contender in the last 2 years and lost 5 times in the championship. Your point about developing players might be logical but doesn't really hold if you're attempting to attach it to the management of the last 2 years. If you want players to develop then you play them in their correct position, you give players a run of games in their strongest position, etc- the management has chopped and changed so much this year that it was crazy (the first 5 matches saw 5 different midfield pairings). There might be logic to what you're saying but that logic wasn't practiced by this years management
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Post by shannonsider on Aug 22, 2013 23:05:18 GMT
We have definitely improved . If you look at '08 , '09 , and 2010 we were well beaten by Mayo , Armagh , and Tyrone . I think this years team is the best team since 2006 . I would be optimistic that we will see 6 or 7 of them playing Senior in the future . Shane Ryan , Pat O'Connor , Matt Flaherty , David Foran ,Miceal Burns , Jack Savage ,Conor Keane , and Killian Spillane have the ability to make it . I think we have good players in the County all the way to u14 level . If we can get the right people in charge we should be good at Minor level until at least 2018 . Stacks you've posted some good stuff here, so will just say that the list you have there is way too optimistic bordering on fantasy really. It would take a huge growth spurt for the likes of Flaherty to play senior intercounty football for example. Aside from all the nonsense (where is control when needed?) does any poster honestly know when the decision will be made on the management for next year? It would be sooner rather than later I'd hope. Even Cork, with their antiquainted systems have the minor management for next year in place at this stage. I just hope and pray that the likes of Liam Hassett or Micheál O'Sé or someone like that are involved..people who know all the young players well and are in tune with the modern game.
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Post by keepitsimple on Aug 23, 2013 8:44:58 GMT
Confirmed where? Best of luck to them if true Sounds more like a St Kierans set up than Kerry!! Jaysus if this is true there will be armageddon, without being personal with any of these lads the only one with anything going for him is liam brosnan, god help us!!
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Post by Callitasitis on Aug 23, 2013 10:26:48 GMT
Jesus yah the rest of them have nt got a clue trying to buy a county championship with Kierans
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Post by giveandgo on Aug 23, 2013 17:31:26 GMT
think my source has got it very wrong this time havent heard anymore on that particular management team being put into place i think mickey ned deserves another shot at it
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 23, 2013 18:10:32 GMT
think my source has got it very wrong this time havent heard anymore on that particular management team being put into place i think mickey ned deserves another shot at it He doesn't
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Post by greengold35 on Aug 25, 2013 8:38:51 GMT
I believe that Mickey Ned and Co are to be given one more year in charge!
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Post by cool1 on Aug 25, 2013 14:05:38 GMT
Mayo's semi final win today should be proof if it were needed that Mickey Ned and Co. do not deserve another chance next year. This Mayo team came to Miltown 11 months ago to play in an U17 tournament. 11 of today's team played in that days final against Kerry and Kerry beat them by a point. Following that game the minor management team took over the team and proceeded to get rid of most of them. When Kerry played Tyrone 3 weeks ago all that remained were Conor Jordan and Fionan Clifford. Subs Kevin Shanahan and Kieran Murphy also played that day. The team deteriorated for the first 6 months after they took them over and played without heart and a system. In my opinion the U17 management under John Dillon should take over the minors for the next 2 years.
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Post by A.N. Other on Aug 25, 2013 19:10:55 GMT
I believe that Mickey Ned and Co are to be given one more year in charge! I second that, heard the same today.
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Post by brigid on Aug 25, 2013 19:57:14 GMT
I believe that Mickey Ned and Co are to be given one more year in charge! Please God no.........I should have started that Novena earlier.
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Post by mossie on Aug 26, 2013 16:41:08 GMT
I have always felt minor managements should be given 3 year terms. It takes so long to get a handle on whats in the county , what the temperament of the players is like and become fully on top of how to integrate all this into the competition structure. Pat Driscoll should have got a 3rd year. It appears that when people were criticising him for the narrow defeat to Tipp, decisions were made then to move on from him without people realising how good Tipp were. Feck it they eventually won the all Ireland beating the dubs in a stadium full of dubs! I have posted all this before
I d be saying one more year for Mickey ned and co and even if they win the all Ireland , bring in a new management for 3 years. We were so so close to beating Tyrone who are now in the final
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 3, 2013 8:01:33 GMT
I have always felt minor managements should be given 3 year terms. It takes so long to get a handle on whats in the county , what the temperament of the players is like and become fully on top of how to integrate all this into the competition structure. Pat Driscoll should have got a 3rd year. It appears that when people were criticising him for the narrow defeat to Tipp, decisions were made then to move on from him without people realising how good Tipp were. Feck it they eventually won the all Ireland beating the dubs in a stadium full of dubs! I have posted all this before I d be saying one more year for Mickey ned and co and even if they win the all Ireland , bring in a new management for 3 years. We were so so close to beating Tyrone who are now in the final There isn't a fear of a Mickey Ned trained team winning an All Ireland
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