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Post by kerryeye on Aug 22, 2007 13:12:47 GMT
How O Leary can be cleared to play is a puzzle to me,he struck Gerathy in the jaw.If the ref and officials had done there job at the time would cork have reached the final,they would have had to play 55 minutes wit 14 minutes,i cant see how anyone can defend what he did and cant see how he's got away wit it.While i agree that its not nice to see a player missing out on an All ireland final it would have been all his own doing and he could have cost his whole team of the oppurtunity had he been sent off,I cant understand players who jeapordise their chance to play in the biggest game of their lives for a dirty dig on an opposition player.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 22, 2007 13:23:43 GMT
Kerryeye, every county has got off a player off at some stage so none of us can get up our high horse about it.
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Post by paddycagney on Aug 22, 2007 13:29:05 GMT
As a Corkman I would like to state as many others have on rebelgaa that NOL actions cannot be defended and the ref or the CCC or the GAA have bottled this decision. However I do find it a tad rich to see so many on this site pontificating about discipline and responsibility and sly digs given your own record at local level with regard to bottling big decisions and the conduct of one or two of your own in recent years. Intercounty football is now a game where all teams have adopted a win at all costs attitude and all appears to be fair unless you are caught. The GAA and CCC came out this year with all guns blazing and will exit the year with a whimper because they ignored blatant violent conduct all year using the catchphrase that the referee had already dealt with it.
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Post by kerryeye on Aug 22, 2007 13:30:36 GMT
Picture this so,15 minutes into the game and O Leary is shown a straight red,Cork down to 14 men,an hour later Meath are in the final on the 16th of next month,would you be getting on your high horse then,i dont think ye would be too fond of O leary then.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 22, 2007 13:33:07 GMT
Sure every county gets a dodgy decision their way once in a while. Brian Dennehys jaw can testify to darragh getting off handy in the summer of 2002 when he was freed to play against cork in the all ireland semi
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 22, 2007 13:35:10 GMT
It is not a question of how we feel about O' Leary. No Cork person has some on here saying the CCCC made the correct decision.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 22, 2007 13:38:16 GMT
Sure every county gets a dodgy decision their way once in a while. Brian Dennehys jaw can testify to darragh getting off handy in the summer of 2002 when he was freed to play against cork in the all ireland semi On the law of averages, these things even themselves out over time...
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 22, 2007 13:38:30 GMT
Following on from Anthony Lynch incident this year and now Noel O'Leary, this is a joke!!!! Is it one law or rather no law for Cork. Cork GAA mafia exerts its influence again, you can be damn sure if it was Graham Geraghty throwing a punch he would have been banned.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 22, 2007 13:39:32 GMT
Following on from Anthony Lynch incident this year and now Noel O'Leary, this is a joke!!!! Is it one law or rather no law for Cork. Cork GAA mafia exerts its influence again, you can be damn sure if it was Gramham Geraghty throwing a punch he would have been banned. he threw 2 against the dubs and didnt get banned
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Post by Kingdomson on Aug 22, 2007 13:40:45 GMT
Yeah, maybe your right inforthebreaks, However the system is a joke, what message is it sending out??
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Post by paddycagney on Aug 22, 2007 13:41:53 GMT
BB - then why wasnt Geraghty banned already this year because by jaysus he threw enough punches all year or do you forget him winking at Coyle over the refs shoulder after clattering another victim. What Anthony Lynch incident this year ?
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Post by lessbull on Aug 22, 2007 13:43:10 GMT
It's typical GAA half-assedness! Now that they have brought in video evidence as a way of reviewing disciplinary actions and infringements, they either stick with it or not bother. In this case they have clearly decided not to bother. You can't blame Brian Crowe. He didn't see the incident, so had to consult his umpire and we all know how notoriously useless, indecisive and generally blind they are! If video evidence is being used, Noel O'Leary should have been suspended, simple as that!
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 22, 2007 13:45:16 GMT
Bigbrother, you're a little O.T.T. there suggesting there is no law at all for Cork. Did you forget the hurlers? You also forgot about Ó Sé and Galvin, or the Dublin hurler getting off, the Tyrone and Dublin teams getting off for throwing punches. I could go on, but it appear you only remember somethings....
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 22, 2007 13:49:54 GMT
Bigbrother, you're a little O.T.T. there suggesting there is no law at all for Cork. Did you forget the hurlers? You also forgot about Ó Sé and Galvin, or the Dublin hurler getting off, the Tyrone and Dublin teams getting off for throwing punches. I could go on, but it appear you only remember somethings.... you are right in a way owenabue but to not even bring this up for a hearing is a disgrace. and Cork have a better record than most for getting their players off from incidents in intercounty matches.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 22, 2007 13:55:25 GMT
Inforthebreaks, maybe it just seems that way cos of having both the footballers and hurlers. Seriously, most years we've more senior games than other counties, or am I wrong? With it being Munster maybe we don't. I was thinking, like Kerry only had 3 games to get to a semi final.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 22, 2007 14:19:12 GMT
sorry but that is irelevant. it diodnt matter how many games Kerry or Cork played last year that they got away with getting Lynch off last year when Donaghy had to sit it out for basically doing nothing for his second booking was ridiculous. That the noel o leary incident wasnt called up for discussion is equally ridiculous.
to hear the hulers then rabbit on about an anti cork bias was the most paranoid rubbish when taken in that context.
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 22, 2007 14:26:10 GMT
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Post by dec on Aug 22, 2007 14:35:03 GMT
I think the bottom line is...the ref and the GAA agreed that a clear punch into the face is now acceptable.. If on Sunday...some player punches another player in the face he should only be given a yellow card!! Otherwise the whole thing is a joke....
I cannot understand how the ref is allowed to say...After seeing the incident on tv I am happy i gave out the right punishment.... It is baffling!!!
And it is not bias against Cork...I just cant understand how a punch into the face can be deemed a yellow card..
The rules of Gaelic Football have changed right???
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Post by Owenabue on Aug 22, 2007 14:37:50 GMT
Was it last year Whelan did it straight in front of the ref and got away with it?
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 22, 2007 14:39:46 GMT
Was it last year Whelan did it straight in front of the ref and got away with it? yeah against meath. as teh ball was being thrown in.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 22, 2007 20:34:32 GMT
Its in black and white below....... you can punch a guy in the face and its a yellow if brian Crowe is the ref.
The CCCC met yesterday and followed that procedure, sending Crowe a clip of the incident and asking him if he was satisfied that a yellow card was the appropriate punishment for O'Leary's off-the-ball punch. But Crowe, who was alerted to the incident by his linesman on the Hogan Stand side, held his ground and opted to allow the original decision to stand. The CCCC cannot now proceed with any potential charge against the player.
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 22, 2007 20:43:48 GMT
Why do they bother having rules at all. The problem is that the next player who gets done on video evidence will rightly have a grievance.
I really believe that Crowe is one of the worst referees in the country. He seems to have a problem keeping up with the play. And now he feels that he dealt with an obvious punch (although a crap punch) by giving a yellow card. I have lost count of games that I have seen him officiate at (not just Kerry ones) where I came away feeling baffled by his decisions.
Must say I think John Bannon is a lovely man and totally beyond reproach.
Good luck to Noel O leary though. i dont like him but you cant doubt his commitment.
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Post by smokeyjoe on Aug 22, 2007 21:23:42 GMT
I must say having had a read through the thread i see where people are coming from with this, however the bottom line is that there could be a lot more people banned if every incident was looked at in detail.
Decision has been made, rightly or wrongly Noel O Leary will play in the All Ireland final, no amount of head scratching or criticism will change anything. Time to move on.
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Post by JOAN on Aug 22, 2007 22:32:38 GMT
Surprise surprise... He get away with it... Would Paul Galvin Dara or Star got away as easy..... I think not.
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Post by falveyb2k on Aug 22, 2007 22:35:16 GMT
Brian Crowe must be unbelievably stupid to have watched the video again and not change his mind, if he's not willing to learn from his mistake he should never be allowed ref a game again. It happened in last year's final as well when Sheehan got a punch in the stomach right in front of him. Striking is a red card offence, he watched the video yet he can't say it's striking. A 5 year old could see it!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 22, 2007 23:19:59 GMT
However, the intent wasn't there.....Noel's arm just sprung out.....so Brian was quiet happy to give him the yellow card on that basis!!
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Post by Aine on Aug 22, 2007 23:43:19 GMT
Graham was lucky he wasn't shown a red the way he ran into noels fist!!
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 23, 2007 0:04:13 GMT
Darragh O'Se wasn't wronged a few years back and we got him to play!!
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Post by JOAN on Aug 23, 2007 4:14:30 GMT
club games dont count any more, its history... we taking championship now....
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Post by lessbull on Aug 23, 2007 8:02:46 GMT
I've been saying it for years - people should have to pass some kind of IQ test before qualifying to be a referee! There are some awful idiots out there! The amount of times they fail to use common sense is unbelievable! I think this year has been worse than most - seriously dodgy decisions in most games.
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