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Post by kerryeye on Sept 27, 2011 0:02:35 GMT
Very good post bleumoon.
Can see where your coming from on a lot of your points but have to agree with soc with regards Darragh and Whelan,if there was any dig at Whelan in his article it would have only been a bit of hop ball as i believe that the 2 of them get on well together!
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Post by mozzy on Sept 27, 2011 0:19:46 GMT
Good post bluemoon - we lost this game ourselves - albeit not very much added time by ref and some soft frees on both sides -
shop should have been closed down and I believe the bench could have done more or operated differently than we did with changes etc
as for the comments made by former legends - these men breath the game and unfortunately in amateur sport, people will speak from the heart - and will not be as controlled as the professional commentators - which can be both good and bad for our game - along with that you are merely seeing some of the raw politics being played out with Kerry football and seeing a mere scratching of the surface
No one wanted to loose this game and I truly believe, we have to take these comments at when they were written - a very raw wound and neither man will hold anything back - and there is indeed some merit to saying slow the game down etc - this happens all the time - Tyrone are experts at this and would never have left a 4 point lead slip away -
either way I believe Kerry players are truly hurt more than any other time before with this loss and scratching their heads and honestly willing to route out the true cause behind what happened - with this type of anlysis, alot of tough comments come to fruition and will help get to some of the answers -
Kerry will be back and I am glad the boys in blue are back - something else to forge our metal on for future battles ahead....
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Post by bilythewalsh on Sept 27, 2011 0:29:14 GMT
bluemoon, I don't think Darragh was having a dig at Whelan, more a friendly poke for a fellow warrior. They've been involved in many a battle over the years and I get the feeling that they enjoy the craic whenever they meet up.
As for the final and where it was won and lost, in my mind at least there are two separate compartments - the first is to do with Dublin's tenacity, determination, smart use of possession and acknowledging their admirable efforts on the road to Sam. Bryan Cullen said they'd been to hell and back before capturing this one and I for one don't doubt him when he says it.
The other compartment has to do with questionable decisions during the course of the game and how they may have affected the outcome, and what we might have done differently to ensure that we had emerged the winners. As it is a Kerry forum I think it's only natural to debate these issues here.
Some of the calls made by the referee are definitely worthy of further scrutiny, and if the Kerry team are to have any future it's only right to focus on where we might have lost it, as opposed to praising Dublin for where they won the game and then leaving it at that.
I'm sure that the Dubs would not have got to where they are now if they hadn't looked at some of the defeats suffered in previous years from the point of view of how and where they lost those games as opposed to unquestionably accepting that a superior opposition outfit won them.
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Post by coddler on Sept 27, 2011 12:45:17 GMT
I have to say that losing this game was the hardest to take since Seamus Darbys missile in 1982. I was taken aback at two of my acquaniences........ one from Leitrim and the other from Mayo who told me that they were sick and tired of Kerry every year and hoped the Dubs won. These two lads would never have supported the Dubs in anything before. The GAA has invested huge money in Dublin in both football and hurling. The attendances at the Dubs league games in Croke Park in the spring were very disappointing. With the opening of the Aviva Stadium, not alone is the rugby and soccer rent gone but the Aviva is now taking a lot of the concert income too. Dublin County Board have a debt of €2m. The only credible explanation for the refs performance last Sunday was that he read the tea leaves and knew the way the wind was blowing, he knew what the GAA wanted and reffed the game accordingly. Colm O'Rourke says that Dublin got three phantom frees.......3 points...........a hell of a lot in such a tight game. Please spare me the "conspiracy theory" jibe lads. Ireland is a corrupt little country where the cute hoor is lauded and elected to high office. Do you really think that the GAA operates in a vacuum from the rest of the Country. Do we really believe that an organisation that concentrates the most of its efforts in the promotion of hurling in Dublin are doing it for altruistic reasons. No...... its bums on seats that matters and there are lots of bums in Dublin. The €2m debt of the Dublin County Board will be wiped now by a fundraiser that the Dubs will happily subscribe to. The rugby crowd have been overshadowed. Ireland would have to win the rugby world cup to match the feelgood factor that this win has achieved. Something died in me last Sunday when the sight of Colm Cooper flashed up on the big screen. My wife doesnt go to Church anymore because of the covering up and the "pass the paedophile" that was going on. Here was a woman whose religious beliefs went to the core of her being, making a decision that she could no longer support an organisation that was rotten from the head down. I feel the same now about the GAA. At this age of my life, the only things I look for in people are integrity and honesty. I cant see any of that in the GAAs dealing with Kerry in 2010 and 2011. I had a feeling of foreboding that this was going to happen. The final free given to Dublin against Kildare, the two given against Donegal towards the end, the decision to let Connolly off when he clearly broke the rule of striking ot attempting to strike. I had a feeling that Kerry would need to be 5 point better that Dublin to prevail and they werent. I even asked Rashers to name one situation where the opposition had been handed a game by the ref in the way the Dubs were handed the 1995 final and the 2011 Leinster final. Throw in the 2011 All Ireland with those two now. The most salient point was made by Dermot when he said that teams must look at defensive systems from now on. The last 5 goals that Kerry have conceded in Croke park were as a result of losing the ball or giving away possession about 40 yards from goal. Remenber the goal against Down in 2010, the 3 against Dublin in the league and the goal last sunday. Throw in the goal in 2005 by Canavan for good measure. Losing the ball in such a situation shoulnt be so calamitous. If it happened to Dublin a goal would not ensue as their defense was in place. I was listening to John Maughan and Tommy Carr on the radio as the game progressed and they mentioned Kerrys "high wire tactic" of passing the ball around the middle with the defenders out of position. It is worth remembering that Dublin could have had two more goals from such situations............ only for a great save from Kealy and a great save from Aiden........ which led to the phantom free. That we should be hit for a breakaway goal 6 minutes from time when 4 points up is the most crushing part. I am not going to be critical of Jack or any player. I thank them all from the highs they have given us and I was proud that they conducted themselves in such a dignified fashion. An impartial ref would have resulted in Sam in Kerry now. I must give credit to Pat Gilroy and the rest of the St Vincents thinktank. They got their defense right and played a game to their strengths and showed fantastic appetite for the fray when they got the goal. When Donaghy went in for that throw ball at the death, there were 4 Dubs waiting for the break and no green and gold jersey in sight. Kerry looked shell shocked. The Dubs fans at work and that I know socially have been very gracious and I think they know that this was one they stole. I have congratulated Rashers by text. I met him once.......in 2007 when I gave him a ticket to the semifinal........ I know what this means to him.. (By the way girls........ he is a George Clooney looklike). Even rashers had to admit that the dubs got the breaks from the ref. I cant see myself giving the GAA too much of my time anymore. It is is just another symptom of this corrupt little Country. Its just a pity that twas Kerry (and Colm in particular) that were the pawns in this charade by this shabby crooked typically Irish organisation. You’re obviously hurting Mac and I know how you feel . The Dubs have a lot more practice at bitter defeat than Kerry but you should not let it cloud your judgement or let it turn you against the G.A.A. which is one of the few institutions in the country left with credibility and integrity. I absolutely believe that McQuillan did not deliberately set out to favour the Dubs in order to help them over the line and improve the GAA’s finances. One small example. If he believed that Brosnan had handled the ball on the ground in the small square which he clearly indicated, then why not award the penalty which is the correct decision instead of the 21 yard free? My guess is that he made a genuine mistake and imposed the wrong sanction. Some decisions went Dublin’s way on the day and some went Kerry’s way. I won’t say that they evened out over the course of the game as this is a platitude and in a tight game one incorrect decision can decide the winner. But in my honest opinion there was no conspiracy to rob Kerry of the title. Instead this Dublin victory was primarily down to hard work, determination, organisation, skill and heart. Yes we got a little rub of the green also but without the other ingredients to keep us in touch, the luck would have been meaningless. I think Dublin probably deserved to beat Cork in the semi final last year more than Kerry this year as we outplayed them for most of the match. The analysis after that game pointed to Dublin’s lack of composure which was partially true but a major factor were a few official calls which went against us, any one of which might have tilted the game in our favour. This year some of the decisions went our way and thank God we had fought our way to a position from where we could take advantage.
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Post by falveyb2k on Sept 27, 2011 16:07:57 GMT
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Go to 13 mins 44 seconds on the video and see how close the ref is when mcMenamon makes a double hop of the ball, another two point turn around. Now either McQuilan is the most incompetent ref of all time or he's letting one team break the rules right in front of his nose. Look again at how close he is when Declan O Sullivan is taken out, what is the yellow card actually given for? And this wasn't even shown again afterwards, instead the sunday game thought it better to show a 2 minute montage of movie titles altered for the gaa! Then the president and the refs chairman praise the ref in the next 2 days! I really wonder at this stage is it worth following this team around the country, I love watching our guys play football and they've given me more joy than I can remember and they're a credit to the county but what's the point in going to every game when the cccc isn't giving you fair play and then unbelievably one sided refereeing performances are deciding matches?
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Post by cilldaraabu on Sept 27, 2011 16:40:56 GMT
I have to admit that I got it totally wrong on the day. I was thinking before the game would I be happy for the Dubs if they won and I thaught maybe. But within 10 mins of the final whistle I was running for the train after observing another conspiracy for the Dubs mastered by a little cheat from Cavan. A free was given to them to beat us earlier in the summer and my father told me after the game that the Dubs would bring Sam home this year no matter what and who it took. The little cheat from Cavan takes care of 4 games and it is bingo. I now hope that some Kerry fans realise the treachery that happened to us in the summer. Folk can blame who they like but simply , the Dubs were handed 5/6 fees on a plate to win the game. There was nothing that the Kingdom could do to win the game within the rules. When is the last time that Kerry footballers appeared on the Late Late with Sam Maguire ? Why were the legends of Kilkenny with their 8 All -Ireland medals not on the Late Late ?
Anway time to move on. The Gaa got what they want.The only thing that they did not legislate for was the very very strange Dublin goalkeeper or the hero supporter ( with 40 court convictions ) to take the plaudits and hog the headlines all week
And finally , I hope that the little cheat form Cavan has not left a young man from Listowel distraught for the future in carrying out his final act of cheating in 2011. Absolutely no free , absolutely not.What goes around comes around.
Heres hoping for a Kildare v Kerry final in 2012 with a fair referee.
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Post by pony on Sept 27, 2011 16:51:36 GMT
I had heard about the amount of dublin games McQuillan was in charge of, 4 games, this is pretty unusual, isn't it?
Not saying it was planned, but I think most players would say that they know how each ref will ref a game, what they'll let go, what they'll pull you up on etc. That handed a slight advantage to Dublin, and as we saw McQillan will pull you up on small silly stuff, and make a balls of everything else!
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Post by falveyb2k on Sept 27, 2011 16:56:30 GMT
And 3 of the last 4 games we haven't won in Croke Park have been reffed by......McQuilan, all featuring wrong decisions against us
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Post by veteran on Sept 27, 2011 18:34:18 GMT
I thought it was Cormac O'Reilly of Meath who refereed the Dublin/Kildare match. Perhaps, I am wrong.
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Sept 27, 2011 18:48:05 GMT
Veteran, you are correct.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 27, 2011 19:36:53 GMT
I think that to state that the GAA and the ref are in cahoots is disrespectful in the extreme and a pretty outrageous and insulting opinion to hold.
It simply can't be true that Dublin were handed the All-Ireland --- this is nonsense. With seven minutes to go Dublin had a counter-attack on, they attacked with pace, made it happen for themselves and shook the whole stadium up.
Who here honestly believes the GAA are that corrupt that they sent out a referee to purposely ride Kerry? I cannot countenance that --- I really can't. What about the referee's right of reply --- some of the last few comments are a stunning attack on his credibility as a sportsman and, well, his very integrity.
These are opinions that should be kept for lonesome hours in pubs up and down the county --- not on a public forum such as this.
Just my two cents.
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Post by vicmc on Sept 27, 2011 20:00:54 GMT
i watched the game last night for the first time since last sunday...............in the cold light of day it was a disgraceful display by the ref.............now kerry got a lot of frees in the final v cork 2 yrs ago that looked soft on the day but when u watch the video they looked like frees {+ of course we could easily have been down to 14 men in 1st minute)......but jesus christ almighty some of the frees that mac quillan gave against kerry........
killian fouled (trip + hand on back) coming out with the ball in first half, no free point for dublin..... paul galvin perfect tackle, free in on 21, dublin miss handy free....... eoin brosnan draws on ball, free in for off the ground, dublin point........ mcmenamin at least 7 steps going past dec sull, dublin goal mcmenamin 2 hops around their own 65, dublin work ball to brogan, dublin point......... barry john keane stands his ground, mcmenamin throws his knee into barry johns hip, free to dublin
now i spent 5 minutes on google a while a go.......i got joe mc quillans mobile, email address and address so i will see what he has to say about it......................................
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Post by ahaboy on Sept 27, 2011 20:04:03 GMT
Annascaultilidie that referee gave Kerry nothing last sunday week, you know it and so does every person who saw the game. The Gaa wanted a Dublin victory and they got it. I admit Kerry threw it away, absolutely gift wrapped it but even if they had won they would have done so against 16 men. Congrads to the Dubs by the way, it is not them that people are annoyed with, its the referee.
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Post by nypdblue on Sept 27, 2011 21:45:11 GMT
MichaelMac, your obviously hurting bad and I do sympathise. As a lifelong Dublin Hurling and Football Supporter I have been through a lot more bad days than good. However you do have a few facts wrong and i believe your letting your pain affect your judgement a little bit.
Dublin County Board are not in 2m debt or anything close to it. We spent 2m on preparing teams this year as we thankfully had a great year in both codes but the debt is exepected to be well under a half million. Also the Spring Series had an average of 30,000 attendance. This was considered a reasonable success by Dublin GAA and we will be doing the same again this year.
You seem to think Dublin have not been on the end of a bad decision in 16 years. Well heres a sample of some. I'm not looking for sympathy, I just want to point out that everyone gets some tough breaks. I've thrown plenty of Dub v Kerry matches in here to keep ye locals interested.
1978. Mikey Sheehy's famous cheeky goal. Did ye ever ask yourself what was the free given against Paddy Cullen for? If you can come up with an answer your a better man than me.
2005 Dub v Tyrone drawn game. Penalty gven to Tyrone for perfectly executed tackle by Stephen O Shaughnessy on Eoin Mulligan
2005 Dub v Tyrone Replay. Ryan McMenamin takes out Alan Brogan with a foot block in 1st minute. We didn't even get a free!
2007. Dub v Kerry. Paul Galvin headbutted Paul Casey right in front of the linesman. The linesman raises hs flag. Pat o Shea screams in the linesmans face. The linesman takes down his flag. (Granted Casey probably had it coming) 2009 Dub v Kerry. 5 seconds before Gooch scored his early goal he threw David Henry over sideline (off the ball). 2010 Dub v Meath. Meath's first 3 (yes thats 3) goals should have been disallowed. 1 for a double hop, 1 for a frontal charge on Conal Keaney and 1 for a pick off the ground. 2010 Dub v Cork. In crucial last 10 mins 3 questionable frees given to Cork mins also a blatant lineball to Dublin is given to Cork and they get a penalty off it. Believe it or not your friend Joe McQuillan is the offending linesman. 2011. If someone can tell me how to insert a picture I can show you a still of Eoin Brosnan touching the ball on the ground in the small square while he was in the process of blocking Kevin Mc.
These are just a sample of some key decisions that went against Dublin in my time watching them. If refs are trying to favour us I wish they'd do a better job of it. Seriously though sometimes you get the breaks sometimes you don't. We got them on Sept 18th but believe me, we don't always get them.
Finally don't lose faith. The GAA is about the best thing we have going for us in this country.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Sept 27, 2011 21:50:13 GMT
I haven't been on here since the match nor have I seen the game apart from live in Croke Park.
I have to say I am disappointed by some of the reaction on here. As for saying the GAA and the ref were all in it together I find it hard to believe. Criticizing the ref is one thing but to allege improper conduct is another.
As for the poster saying he has got McQuillan's mobile number etc. What difference does it make. The game is over. I'm sure watching the video back he will realize he made some mistakes and he won't need some gobsh*te ringing him up to tell him or basically harrass him.
McQuillan wasn't the one who gave two sloppy handpasses coming out of defence that cost us the game. Or on the sideline when the wrong switches weren't or were made.
I am sick of this woe is me attitude both on here and in the country in general. Things don't just happen you have to make them happen. You can't sit back and moan about things all the time. You just have to dust yourself down, come back and make sure whatever life throw as you; you can meet the challenge.
As for dragging up our past discipline issues. F*ck sake; nearly every thread in here descends into a persecution complex about how the CCCC are shafting us. Bottom line is Connolly played in the final. Galvin et al deserved there suspensions down the years.
You have to take the rough with the smooth. Kerry and their supporters can either wallow in the past and descend into the warm embrace of self pity or recognise their flaws address; address them and place the first foot back on the road to the top of the pile
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Sept 27, 2011 21:55:32 GMT
i watched the game last night for the first time since last sunday...............in the cold light of day it was a disgraceful display by the ref.............now kerry got a lot of frees in the final v cork 2 yrs ago that looked soft on the day but when u watch the video they looked like frees {+ of course we could easily have been down to 14 men in 1st minute)......but jesus christ almighty some of the frees that mac quillan gave against kerry........ killian fouled (trip + hand on back) coming out with the ball in first half, no free point for dublin..... paul galvin perfect tackle, free in on 21, dublin miss handy free....... eoin brosnan draws on ball, free in for off the ground, dublin point........ mcmenamin at least 7 steps going past dec sull, dublin goal mcmenamin 2 hops around their own 65, dublin work ball to brogan, dublin point......... barry john keane stands his ground, mcmenamin throws his knee into barry johns hip, free to dublin now i spent 5 minutes on google a while a go.......i got joe mc quillans mobile, email address and address so i will see what he has to say about it...................................... When i read posts like this I really do despair. Yes, the referee got it wrong a few times but hasn't this been the case in nearly every championship game? To go to the trouble of getting the man's mobile and e-mail is the lowest of the low. Leave the man alone, no all Ireland loss is worth harassing any man over. He is entitled to a personal life. It was the players on the pitch that lost the game. It's hard to take but it's the truth.
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Post by mozzy on Sept 28, 2011 2:19:46 GMT
Attacking Wing Back and Annascaltilide - well said
Lads some of ye's are starting to loose the plot altogether - the ref had a bad day at the office but come on - Kerry had this one in the bag if they had held their composure and if the bench had done a better job with Leary and taking care of R Mc
Bottom line, it amazes me that with a team I did not expect to go that far went all the way to the All Ireland and playing below par and sloppy - lost by one point
let's give Dublin their dues and take our beating like men and women ... and know that we'll be back again -
and for calling the ref - come on lad - that's an outrageous thought - it's sport played by amateurs and as KOD said there's a lot worse in the world - very sick people in hospital, people down in their luck because of a woeful economy, the list goes on and on - we are lucky to be blessed with what we have - let's celebrate it with the good and bad and count our lucky stars...
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Post by sullyschoice on Sept 28, 2011 9:32:17 GMT
i watched the game last night for the first time since last sunday...............in the cold light of day it was a disgraceful display by the ref.............now kerry got a lot of frees in the final v cork 2 yrs ago that looked soft on the day but when u watch the video they looked like frees {+ of course we could easily have been down to 14 men in 1st minute)......but jesus christ almighty some of the frees that mac quillan gave against kerry........ killian fouled (trip + hand on back) coming out with the ball in first half, no free point for dublin..... paul galvin perfect tackle, free in on 21, dublin miss handy free....... eoin brosnan draws on ball, free in for off the ground, dublin point........ mcmenamin at least 7 steps going past dec sull, dublin goal mcmenamin 2 hops around their own 65, dublin work ball to brogan, dublin point......... barry john keane stands his ground, mcmenamin throws his knee into barry johns hip, free to dublin now i spent 5 minutes on google a while a go.......i got joe mc quillans mobile, email address and address so i will see what he has to say about it...................................... You will only get yourself into trouble for that. It will achieve nothing. Bad and all as some of his decisions may have been, he didnt kill anyone. Remember the Gerald Mc Carthy debacle last year. People end up in court over abusive calls and letters (and rightly so).
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Post by coddler on Sept 28, 2011 10:25:31 GMT
I have to admit that I got it totally wrong on the day. I was thinking before the game would I be happy for the Dubs if they won and I thaught maybe. But within 10 mins of the final whistle I was running for the train after observing another conspiracy for the Dubs mastered by a little cheat from Cavan. A free was given to them to beat us earlier in the summer and my father told me after the game that the Dubs would bring Sam home this year no matter what and who it took. The little cheat from Cavan takes care of 4 games and it is bingo. I now hope that some Kerry fans realise the treachery that happened to us in the summer. Folk can blame who they like but simply , the Dubs were handed 5/6 fees on a plate to win the game. There was nothing that the Kingdom could do to win the game within the rules. When is the last time that Kerry footballers appeared on the Late Late with Sam Maguire ? Why were the legends of Kilkenny with their 8 All -Ireland medals not on the Late Late ? Anway time to move on. The Gaa got what they want.The only thing that they did not legislate for was the very very strange Dublin goalkeeper or the hero supporter ( with 40 court convictions ) to take the plaudits and hog the headlines all week And finally , I hope that the little cheat form Cavan has not left a young man from Listowel distraught for the future in carrying out his final act of cheating in 2011. Absolutely no free , absolutely not.What goes around comes around. Heres hoping for a Kildare v Kerry final in 2012 with a fair referee. McQuillan refereed the Dubs Vs Tyrone match this year where the free count was 36 to Tyrone and 12 to Dublin. How does that fit into your conspiracy theory?
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Post by fisticups on Sept 28, 2011 11:09:24 GMT
The Dubs were on the late late on Friday night and Aras An Uachtarann yesterday. I suppose they will be heading to the White House for thanksgiving and the vatican for Christmas. Joke absolute joke. Can somebody start a thread on Dubs in Aras an Uachtarann dont know how to do it. We can't even get to meet Michael Heaky Rae when we win.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Sept 28, 2011 11:12:45 GMT
The Dubs were on the late late on Friday night and Aras An Uachtarann yesterday. I suppose they will be heading to the White House for thanksgiving and the vatican for Christmas. Joke absolute joke. Can somebody start a thread on Dubs in Aras an Uachtarann dont know how to do it. We can't even get to meet Michael Heaky Rae when we win. I wouldn't worry about it Con --- they're undoing all the good work Gilroy had been doing in controlling the bull* --- this circus is guaranteed to land the Jacks and (unfortunately) their fans back on their arse for the next five years.
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Post by bluemoon on Sept 28, 2011 13:33:12 GMT
What a brilliant idea about the White House, well done!!
In fairness I suppose it was unusual for you all to see a team appearing together as a unit, as opposed to Galvin and his entourage of shoes :-) That was a particular Late Late show that united the 32 counties alright, and is, unfortunately, embedded in my memory forever ... shudder, shudder!
Seriously lads, people are interested in this Dublin team and the win in particular so you really need to let it go! In 17 years when you win Sam back, I'm sure it will make headline news as well ( Joke!!).
Peace and love man, let us just embrace this Dublin team for the almighty heros that they are and let us unite behind them.... Remember Italia '90 kickstarted the Celtic Tiger, blue sky's the limit now! :-)
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Post by nypdblue on Sept 28, 2011 13:55:46 GMT
The Dubs were on the late late on Friday night and Aras An Uachtarann yesterday. I suppose they will be heading to the White House for thanksgiving and the vatican for Christmas. Joke absolute joke. Can somebody start a thread on Dubs in Aras an Uachtarann dont know how to do it. We can't even get to meet Michael Heaky Rae when we win. I wouldn't worry about it Con --- they're undoing all the good work Gilroy had been doing in controlling the bull* --- this circus is guaranteed to land the Jacks and (unfortunately) their fans back on their arse for the next five years. They were invited to the Aras and it would have been very bad manners not to accept. They were also invited onto the Late Late. We are competing for hearts and minds of children in Dublin with soccer and rugby. It would be foolish in the extreme not to use our first All Ireland win in 16 years to its max. Also Kilkenny and Tyrone have been on the Late Late in recent years, not to mention Paul Galvin and his shoes There was even 4 Wexford camogie sisters on last Friday. Most of the posters here are knowledgable and fair. However some of the sour grapes and downright delusion displayed by a couple of lads over the last few days is extremely un Kerrylike.
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Post by kerryeye on Sept 28, 2011 14:20:45 GMT
Have to agree with bluemoon and nypdblue here lads,a lot of people coming across as bitter and unsporting here in the last few days.
Its been 10 days since the final now and conspiracy theory that the Gaa wanted Dublin to win and made sure that this happened are well wide of the mark,what could the GAA have done if Declan had driven the ball he lost straight into full forward to Donaghy who offloads to Gooch and he gets another point to put us 5 up!Nothing is the answer.
Granted a few decisions went against us but I'm sure had Dublin lost they could probably have picked out some that they weren't happy about either.
Congrats to the Dublin lads here,who have been very gracious in there victory on here and for us Kerry folk it's time to start looking to 2012.Ciarrai abu
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Post by Control2 on Sept 28, 2011 14:59:44 GMT
The Final has been well and truly debated. The last couple of days have seen the thread reduced to silly season antics. Congratulations to Dublin on their victory. Lets move on to the local scene and the quest to regain Sam in 2012.
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