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Post by Mickmack on Jul 30, 2006 10:24:01 GMT
Is it not distorting the playing field a bit to arrange things so that dublin can have 60k fans against westmeath.......... I know its 15 v 15 but the ref can come under a lot of pressure to make home town decisions.
The sending off of the offaly player as opposed to cluxton is an example......
Over to you rashers as you seem to be a fair minded individual
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Post by RashersTierney on Jul 30, 2006 15:37:11 GMT
???What would you want Mick, close the Hill & the Canal & limit the attendance to 25,000 each? Play the match in portlaoise with 30,000? This old argument never goes away despite the fact that many opposition teams have a great record agin the Dubs in Croker, and the Dubs have done very well outside there. ;D As for the sendings off Mick, those questions were already answered - Cluxton could only be yellowed; McNamee had been booked, he hit Goggins off the ball amd so got booked a second time. I felt sorry for him, as I felt the first booking was harsh, but it happens. I felt the "inexperienced" ref let Offaly away with alot of pulling & dragging & yet gave them frees often when they just went to ground. He was not unfair towards them. They have never feared playing the Dubs in Croker. I'm sure Kerry would love nothing better than to get another shot at Dublin in an All-Ireland final. Did Seamus Aldridge get intimidated in 1978? Did the ref get afraid when Jacko picked the ball up in the sqaure, and Kerry 8 points ahead in 1985? Did Westmeath get afraid 2 years ago? I'd love to play yis in Thurles!  |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 1, 2006 15:54:22 GMT
Why not play the laois/Mayo game and the Dublin/Westmeth game on the one day...... give the dubs their allocation.......
If the dubs were to draw with westmeath........ the whole schedule gets fecked up............
You seem to totally miss my point. In 1978.......... Croke Park was not as big and the dubs fans didnt outnumber kerry by 6 to 1. It was an all ireland final with plenty of neutrals at it.
Croke Park is being turned into a Colliseum at the moment when the dubs play........
Only experienced refs should would be appointed in such intimidating atmospheres.............
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 1, 2006 16:37:48 GMT
Being honest MickMak, money talks, and why stare a gift horse in the mouth. And ask any intercounty player - they would run 50 laps a night for 12 years if it meant playing the Dubs in Croke Park in August in front of a full house of Dubs.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 1, 2006 16:52:11 GMT
I agree....... Money talks....... but a level playing field is also important
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 1, 2006 19:11:08 GMT
Mick, I'm not just being blue-tinted here, I really dont get your point! So we should be discriminated against because we bring more fans to championship games? What's the problem with having the Mayo-Laois game on Sunday - both that & the hurling would bring 40-50,000 crowds = 80-100,000 total ticket-seekers. Dublin-Westmeath would bring 80-100,000 ticket seekers on its own, with 10-15,000 for the Rackard Cup game. So it seems to be both fair & sensible (except the Rackard Cup should really be with the hurling semi - I agree that's a bad move)  Your point about a replay causing problems with fixtures seems.................pointless - what's the difference regarding a replay whether the game is played on saturday or sunday??! Or are you just being disingenuous here...............  I agree, refs should be experienced, for the sake of both sides - you seem to assume they somehow favour us! I dont see it that way. Regarding intimidation, once again, more examples - Tyrone were vastly outnumbered in support in last year's quarters, yet they played their best football of the year, especially in the replay, some of the best stuff I've ever seen in Croker. Like all good sides, they actually rose to the occasion.  What about the mighty Longford sent to Killarney?  Jaysus Mick, we are only in the quarter finals with it all still to prove after 11 years of famine, and here's a Kerryman, bloated & replete from 3 All-Irelands and as many National Leagues in the past decade, trying to find excuses for why Dublin might win, even before the quarter final is played!!  "I mean throw us a fricking bone here!"   |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2006 9:06:16 GMT
Rashers..... if Dublin make the final would you therefore agree that the minor final should be switched to another date so that extra tickets that would go to the counties in the minor final can be made avaialble to Dublin ........ everything must be done to ensure that the dubs win this years all ireland? Eleven years is a long time after all.
By the way.....Westmeath have never won it.......
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 2, 2006 9:20:36 GMT
Rashers..... if Dublin make the final would you therefore agree that the minor final should be switched to another date so that extra tickets that would go to the counties in the minor final can be made avaialble to Dublin ........ everything must be done to ensure that the dubs win this years all ireland? Eleven years is a long time after all. By the way.....Westmeath have never won it....... You cant compare the Minors playing in an All-I final, or any final, to two senior quarter finals - now you really are being disingenuous! Mick, it's a good wind-up, I'll admit you got me fair and square ;D The last time Kerry went more than 5 years without winning it we were never out of earshot of all the weeping, wailing & gnashing of teeth |
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Post by inforthebreaks on Aug 2, 2006 9:57:03 GMT
Mickmack as the year goes on the dubs will get less and less tickets. for the final there will be an equal allocation (should something as dastardly as the dubs reach the final) they can't be punished because they bring more fans than Westmeath, or offaly, or longford to Croke Park. teh dubs in Croke Park is on of the great sights of the GAA if you ask me, much as I don't like to see them there when the real business starts. (sorry rashers, being brought up in the 70s and 80s in Kerry teaches you this)
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 2, 2006 10:14:05 GMT
Breaks, I've no problem with that, but would have thought you'd be delighted to see Kerry Vs Dublin again? Especially seeing as you feckers nearly always beat us out the gate Regarding tickets, in the last few years, just for quarter fianls and even Leinster Finals alone, I've had to beg, steal, borrow, go undercover, forge, impersonate, bribe, threaten, get a psychiatric referral, and a note from my mother - just to get a Hill 16 ticket Another one for you Mick - I never hear you complain about Louth always getting home advantage for the Poc Fada?! And what about Kerry's unfair advantage in being able to do altitude training? |
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 2, 2006 18:50:22 GMT
We'll leave it at that for now rashers..........
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 12, 2006 17:11:48 GMT
After todays game with Westmeath Colm O Rourke suggested that Dublin will want Brian Crowe to referee all their matches given the number of soft frees he awarded to Dublin.
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Post by nicoshea on Aug 12, 2006 20:11:12 GMT
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Post by sullyschoice on Aug 12, 2006 20:44:18 GMT
Dubs looked quite good in first half. Second half display was not good enpoug to win A I. 16 wides is very poor considering they were not even under any pressure. Westmeath are a below average team and showed their true worth today. Did Dublin play crap in the second half cos they didnt need to do any more or are they a bit suspect. Only time will tell, but it should be a worry for them.
Just by way of blowing my own trumpet...and being a betting man I took the dubs to win with a 8 point handicap, 17/10. They were unbackable without the handicap.
I would love to see a Kerry Dublin Final again.
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 13, 2006 7:54:31 GMT
Westmeath gave the worst performance I've seen from any team in a big match in Croker since..................well, yis know!  As an occasion therefore it was a big letdown, as we couldnt even slag them after that, it was embarrassing. Also, they did us no favours, as in two weeks time we face into Mayo or Laois not having had a serious game  THAT is a worry for us. We learned almost nothing, but one thing became clear, Cosgrove is way off the pace  |
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Post by Aodhan on Aug 13, 2006 8:21:34 GMT
The Dubs are still an enigma
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 13, 2006 14:35:10 GMT
The draw today will help ye no end Rashers.....ye'll be facing one fairly tired team.
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 13, 2006 14:48:32 GMT
Thats debateable stacks...... mayo havent had a game for a month. Neither did Armagh before playing kerry. I think a game every week is the way to go....... you cant bet match practice.
Mayo shud be better the next day after this game today.
Dublins would have beaten the pick of the two teams today........
It was like a challenege match at times........
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Post by Chinatown on Aug 13, 2006 15:26:04 GMT
PRESS RELEASE
I believe the date and venue for Dublin's next's outing in the AI series has not changed but unfortunately the time cannot be set as it will be depedent on when the Dublin Supporters can make it to Croker!!!!!
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Post by Mickmack on Aug 13, 2006 15:51:36 GMT
The barman in Meaghers will be consulted before the match time is decided.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 13, 2006 18:21:13 GMT
Obviously Bertie has something in his schedule and is trying to sort it out at the moment!
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Post by kerrygold on Aug 15, 2006 8:29:09 GMT
Westmeath gave the worst performance I've seen from any team in a big match in Croker since..................well, yis know! As an occasion therefore it was a big letdown, as we couldnt even slag them after that, it was embarrassing. Also, they did us no favours, as in two weeks time we face into Mayo or Laois not having had a serious game THAT is a worry for us. We learned almost nothing, but one thing became clear, Cosgrove is way off the pace cosgrove not stepping up to the plate is a big minus for ye rashers,because if he had done so he would be a massive plus to yere forward line. |
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Post by RashersTierney on Aug 18, 2006 1:21:38 GMT
I suspected as much from Champagne Rayser after the big performance and outlandish celebrations against Laois. Maybe he's learned his lesson in the meantime, but I wouldnt bet on it.Hope he proves me wrong.
The extra game will suit Mayo alot. Laois might be tired, but cant be as tired as Tyrone were last year?! My only hope is that at least we ought to have seen much more of what Mayo can offer, because so far this year they have been a total unknown, except they are hanging tough in tight games, always a good sign. Hope they show a big performance the next day, if as I expect they win. I want to see their full hand..........
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Post by mickthebridges on Aug 18, 2006 1:33:52 GMT
You will.
One young man Aidan Kilcoyne.
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I AM QUIET AMUSED THAT YOU ALL HAVE DUBLIN IN THE FINAL ALREADY, THEY HAVE TO GET PASSED MAYO/LAOIS YET.....
THAT is a worry for us.
