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Post by royalkerryfan on Sept 26, 2023 22:32:08 GMT
Murphy & Quirke to stay on as well as Paddy Tally. As it stands it will be the same management setup for the next 2 years as it was the previous 2. Probably a good thing as I don't think this Kerry team have peaked under this management yet. I can see the League in 2024 being a priority for Kerry The league has little relevance now if you are in division 1. Dublin and Kerry showed little interest in the league last year. Mayo and Galway on the other hand took it very seriously and both flopped in the championship.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Sept 26, 2023 22:33:53 GMT
Delighted that the management team are staying on.
A very positive development.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 27, 2023 9:33:06 GMT
Delighted that the management team are staying on. A very positive development. From what I have heard, it’s very likely there will be an additional selector/coach. Also, a few changes that the back room team - additional S & C coach plus sports psychologist.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Sept 27, 2023 9:57:50 GMT
Delighted that the management team are staying on. A very positive development. From what I have heard, it’s very likely there will be an additional selector/coach. Also, a few changes that the back room team - additional S & C coach plus sports psychologist. Will be interesting who the new selector is, Declan O’Sullivan would be my guess.
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Post by kerryboyo on Sept 27, 2023 11:54:22 GMT
Guys who have impressed me and may be worth a look are
Shane Cronin Spa Dan Odonoghue Spa Jack Keneally Shannon Rangers Kevin Osullivan Kenmare Tom Hoare O Rahillys Conor Geaney Dingle Niall Geaney Dingle Damien Bourke Na Gaeil Devon Burns Na Gaeil Mark Ryan Rathmore Mark O Shea Crokes
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Post by playitfair on Sept 27, 2023 12:54:07 GMT
If any young lad gets a chance of a wing forward position in the league and can score from there, he might have a good chance of holding onto his spot for the year. These days scoring is of secondary importance for a wing forward. Totally disagree on that point, that was what beat us in this years final. Not enough of scoring options.
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Post by orangerhyme on Sept 27, 2023 15:51:20 GMT
These days scoring is of secondary importance for a wing forward. Totally disagree on that point, that was what beat us in this years final. Not enough of scoring options. 100%. The more scorers, the better. Paul Galvin and Donnacha Walsh always chipped in with scores as well as doing defensive duties. David Clifford garners so much attention it shouldn't be too difficult to find space.
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Post by orangerhyme on Sept 27, 2023 15:52:47 GMT
Delighted that the management team are staying on. A very positive development. From what I have heard, it’s very likely there will be an additional selector/coach. Also, a few changes that the back room team - additional S & C coach plus sports psychologist. Is Tony Griffin still working with the players? I find him very interesting.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 27, 2023 16:37:14 GMT
From what I have heard, it’s very likely there will be an additional selector/coach. Also, a few changes that the back room team - additional S & C coach plus sports psychologist. Is Tony Griffin still working with the players? I find him very interesting. Think he has moved on.
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Post by mafi97 on Sept 27, 2023 18:08:16 GMT
From what I have heard, it’s very likely there will be an additional selector/coach. Also, a few changes that the back room team - additional S & C coach plus sports psychologist. Will be interesting who the new selector is, Declan O’Sullivan would be my guess. I sincerely hope that there is a fresh voice brought into the mix. Otherwise, we run the risk of it becoming an echo chamber with it's toxic first cousin, group think. The newcomer does not have to add anything much to the party - just that new presence changes the dynamic and induces a higher level of self-questioning by the other members of the group. To be honest, my spidey senses lead me to fear that this was already a problem this past year. I will be more interested in watching for a worthwhile newcomer to the management team, than the advent of a newcomer on the field of play.
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Post by greengold35 on Sept 27, 2023 18:51:06 GMT
Will be interesting who the new selector is, Declan O’Sullivan would be my guess. I sincerely hope that there is a fresh voice brought into the mix. Otherwise, we run the risk of it becoming an echo chamber with it's toxic first cousin, group think. The newcomer does not have to add anything much to the party - just that new presence changes the dynamic and induces a higher level of self-questioning by the other members of the group. To be honest, my spidey senses lead me to fear that this was already a problem this past year. I will be more interested in watching for a worthwhile newcomer to the management team, than the advent of a newcomer on the field of play. I hope we see both - ie, a newcomer on the sideline & some new faces. The more I think about the final ( vs Dublin) & the more matches I have attended since at club & county championship level, I just wonder how we finished with the 15 we did? It was definitely our weakest side - no Geaney, no O’Brien, no Jack Barry - had they been injured we would have been lamenting big time.
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Post by orangerhyme on Sept 27, 2023 19:28:55 GMT
Will be interesting who the new selector is, Declan O’Sullivan would be my guess. I sincerely hope that there is a fresh voice brought into the mix. Otherwise, we run the risk of it becoming an echo chamber with it's toxic first cousin, group think. The newcomer does not have to add anything much to the party - just that new presence changes the dynamic and induces a higher level of self-questioning by the other members of the group. To be honest, my spidey senses lead me to fear that this was already a problem this past year. I will be more interested in watching for a worthwhile newcomer to the management team, than the advent of a newcomer on the field of play. It's good to groom younger coaches in intercounty management also. Fantastic experience to learn off JOC and Paddy Tally. The 00s and early 10s generation are dipping their toe into coaching now.
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Post by The16thMan on Sept 27, 2023 20:27:56 GMT
Murphy & Quirke to stay on as well as Paddy Tally. As it stands it will be the same management setup for the next 2 years as it was the previous 2. Probably a good thing as I don't think this Kerry team have peaked under this management yet. I can see the League in 2024 being a priority for Kerry The league has little relevance now if you are in division 1. Dublin and Kerry showed little interest in the league last year. Mayo and Galway on the other hand took it very seriously and both flopped in the championship. Dublin won their league last season, also Kerry won the AI the year before after winning the league.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Sept 27, 2023 20:51:41 GMT
The league has little relevance now if you are in division 1. Dublin and Kerry showed little interest in the league last year. Mayo and Galway on the other hand took it very seriously and both flopped in the championship. Dublin won their league last season, also Kerry won the AI the year before after winning the league. Dublin did,They looked average for large parts of what was a poor D2. They were fortunate enough against Kildare,Cork and Clare. As for the previous year it has no relevance as now we have 2 leagues, A winter league, A pointless provincial, Then a summer championship league. Winning D1 and maintaining that is too difficult in my opinion. Jack alluded to that this year that teams were bouncing in February and the fell off in the summer.
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Post by orangerhyme on Sept 27, 2023 21:30:16 GMT
Murphy & Quirke to stay on as well as Paddy Tally. As it stands it will be the same management setup for the next 2 years as it was the previous 2. Probably a good thing as I don't think this Kerry team have peaked under this management yet. I can see the League in 2024 being a priority for Kerry The league has little relevance now if you are in division 1. Dublin and Kerry showed little interest in the league last year. Mayo and Galway on the other hand took it very seriously and both flopped in the championship. The league will always be the league for the stronger counties. It's just a preseason competition to test new players and get established players fit. Nice to win it but nobody really cares. For ambitious weaker counties its useful for development and promotion to a higher division is good for development and feel good momentum.
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Post by mossie on Sept 27, 2023 23:05:31 GMT
Guys who have impressed me and may be worth a look are Shane Cronin Spa Dan Odonoghue Spa Jack Keneally Shannon Rangers Kevin Osullivan Kenmare Tom Hoare O Rahillys Conor Geaney Dingle Niall Geaney Dingle Damien Bourke Na Gaeil Devon Burns Na Gaeil Mark Ryan Rathmore Mark O Shea Crokes Kevin O'Sullivan was in and around the panel under Peter Keane
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Post by mossie on Sept 27, 2023 23:10:17 GMT
Dublin won their league last season, also Kerry won the AI the year before after winning the league. Dublin did,They looked average for large parts of what was a poor D2. They were fortunate enough against Kildare,Cork and Clare. As for the previous year it has no relevance as now we have 2 leagues, A winter league, A pointless provincial, Then a summer championship league. Winning D1 and maintaining that is too difficult in my opinion. Jack alluded to that this year that teams were bouncing in February and the fell off in the summer. you are correct re the league with the provincals less linked to your ultimate championship fate, the groups of 4 in Sam Maguire making it near impossible for Kerry & Dublin to get knocked out at the group stage and so little jeopardy for Kerry until the last 8 knock out matches, league form no longer concerns me as much.
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Post by john4 on Sept 28, 2023 9:12:18 GMT
Dublin did,They looked average for large parts of what was a poor D2. They were fortunate enough against Kildare,Cork and Clare. As for the previous year it has no relevance as now we have 2 leagues, A winter league, A pointless provincial, Then a summer championship league. Winning D1 and maintaining that is too difficult in my opinion. Jack alluded to that this year that teams were bouncing in February and the fell off in the summer. you are correct re the league with the provincals less linked to your ultimate championship fate, the groups of 4 in Sam Maguire making it near impossible for Kerry & Dublin to get knocked out at the group stage and so little jeopardy for Kerry until the last 8 knock out matches, league form no longer concerns me as much. The split season has worked imo for club players, they can plan their year, travel if they want without missing out on matches. But if it's not managed properly it'll lead to burnout in intercounty players. I don't know this but I'd say Senior IC players want to have a go at the All Ireland, next their county championship/club championship. The national league I'd imagine is a slog for these fellas. It's pointless. There's an element of prestige in being a Division 1 County but it has a price. I think Dublin might have twigged this a year or 2 before everyone else.
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Post by homerj on Sept 28, 2023 9:56:36 GMT
are the league fixtures out yet, if not, anybody know when?
heard somebody say during week they are provisionally available.
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 1, 2023 21:46:01 GMT
are the league fixtures out yet, if not, anybody know when? heard somebody say during week they are provisionally available. Start of November usually when they become available
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 21, 2023 14:56:47 GMT
Kerry to play Cork/Limerick in Munster SFC Semi Final in 2024. Should it be Cork the game will be in Killarney, if it is Limerick we play them in Limerick. One would have to fancy a Kerry Cork semi final and the winner to probably play Clare in the final. However it wouldn't be unlike Cork to come unstuck vs Limerick either.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Oct 21, 2023 17:46:05 GMT
Looks like Dublin in the first round of the league at hom followed by,
Monaghan A Mayo H Derry A Tyrone H Rossies A Galway H
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Post by kerrylad38 on Oct 21, 2023 19:54:08 GMT
Player I Think We Really Need To Look At:
Dylan Geaney (Dingle) Conor Geaney (Dingle) Cillian Burke (Miltown-Castlemaine) Sean O Brien (Beaufort) Keith Evan’s (Keel) Patrick Darcy (Glenflesk) David Mangan (Laune Rangers)
I’ve Been Very Impressed With The 6 lads So Far This Year
Dylan And Conor Had A Very Good First Tonight. Conors Movement And Physicality Has Improved Massively. The Link Play Between The Two Is Very Impressive. Conor Has Been Riddled With Injuries The Last 4-5 years. I was delighted To see him get through an injury free 2023 and I think he may have what it takes to be his first cousins successor. Dylan’s playmaking linking up with the inside forwards with his very good kick passing is something that we should be looking at on the 40 this year. Even if he was to come on with 10-15 Mins to go.
Keith Evan’s has electric pace and great play making ability he just may be lacking slightly on the physicality side of things.the right idea would be to bring him in and get him started on s&c
Patrick Darcy Has Nailed Down That Wing Forward Spot For East Kerry For The Last 2-3 years and I feel he is now ready to get a shot in next years league.
David Mangan Is A Tight Sticky corner back from Laune Rangers could be a shout if we want to push Tom o Sullivan to 5 we’re I feel he is much better at
Sean o brien is a strong option at half back next year.
I feel we’re really lacking a good 10 or a 12
Jack Will Have To Look At 7 or 8 new players in the league next year. We were really Lacking 4 or 5 impact subs last year in the final. There is 5 or 6 players on the panel who are not up to it at all and need to be let go.
Would like to hear others opinions
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 21, 2023 20:06:19 GMT
I was calling for Keith evans to be brought in last year, lads like him need a couple of years in the squad before they can get up to the physical level
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Oct 21, 2023 21:14:32 GMT
I was calling for Keith evans to be brought in last year, lads like him need a couple of years in the squad before they can get up to the physical level Or would he be better off not being on the panel this year to allow him to really hone in on the S&C side of things and strengthen up physically? Being out on the field with Kerry 2/3/4 nights a week is going to take away time and focus from gym work. He has all the football just needs to add a few kg to compete at IC level.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Oct 22, 2023 17:09:05 GMT
Player I Think We Really Need To Look At: Dylan Geaney (Dingle) Conor Geaney (Dingle) Cillian Burke (Miltown-Castlemaine) Sean O Brien (Beaufort) Keith Evan’s (Keel) Patrick Darcy (Glenflesk) David Mangan (Laune Rangers) I’ve Been Very Impressed With The 6 lads So Far This Year Dylan And Conor Had A Very Good First Tonight. Conors Movement And Physicality Has Improved Massively. The Link Play Between The Two Is Very Impressive. Conor Has Been Riddled With Injuries The Last 4-5 years. I was delighted To see him get through an injury free 2023 and I think he may have what it takes to be his first cousins successor. Dylan’s playmaking linking up with the inside forwards with his very good kick passing is something that we should be looking at on the 40 this year. Even if he was to come on with 10-15 Mins to go. Keith Evan’s has electric pace and great play making ability he just may be lacking slightly on the physicality side of things.the right idea would be to bring him in and get him started on s&c Patrick Darcy Has Nailed Down That Wing Forward Spot For East Kerry For The Last 2-3 years and I feel he is now ready to get a shot in next years league. David Mangan Is A Tight Sticky corner back from Laune Rangers could be a shout if we want to push Tom o Sullivan to 5 we’re I feel he is much better at Sean o brien is a strong option at half back next year. I feel we’re really lacking a good 10 or a 12 Jack Will Have To Look At 7 or 8 new players in the league next year. We were really Lacking 4 or 5 impact subs last year in the final. There is 5 or 6 players on the panel who are not up to it at all and need to be let go. Would like to hear others opinions Cillian Burke is really the standout of those 8, has to be given the full league starting at wing forward. Sean O’Brien may see league time too but don’t see any of the others being at the required level. Keith Evans will be a very good addition in a year or two if he can strengthen up physically. Others I think that should get a good look in the league are Mark Ryan, Dan O’Donoghue, Ronan Buckley and Joe O’Connor if he comes back well from the injury. Unfortunately I’m struggling to see any other players putting up their hands.
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 22, 2023 18:37:58 GMT
Player I Think We Really Need To Look At: Dylan Geaney (Dingle) Conor Geaney (Dingle) Cillian Burke (Miltown-Castlemaine) Sean O Brien (Beaufort) Keith Evan’s (Keel) Patrick Darcy (Glenflesk) David Mangan (Laune Rangers) I’ve Been Very Impressed With The 6 lads So Far This Year Dylan And Conor Had A Very Good First Tonight. Conors Movement And Physicality Has Improved Massively. The Link Play Between The Two Is Very Impressive. Conor Has Been Riddled With Injuries The Last 4-5 years. I was delighted To see him get through an injury free 2023 and I think he may have what it takes to be his first cousins successor. Dylan’s playmaking linking up with the inside forwards with his very good kick passing is something that we should be looking at on the 40 this year. Even if he was to come on with 10-15 Mins to go. Keith Evan’s has electric pace and great play making ability he just may be lacking slightly on the physicality side of things.the right idea would be to bring him in and get him started on s&c Patrick Darcy Has Nailed Down That Wing Forward Spot For East Kerry For The Last 2-3 years and I feel he is now ready to get a shot in next years league. David Mangan Is A Tight Sticky corner back from Laune Rangers could be a shout if we want to push Tom o Sullivan to 5 we’re I feel he is much better at Sean o brien is a strong option at half back next year. I feel we’re really lacking a good 10 or a 12 Jack Will Have To Look At 7 or 8 new players in the league next year. We were really Lacking 4 or 5 impact subs last year in the final. There is 5 or 6 players on the panel who are not up to it at all and need to be let go. Would like to hear others opinions Cillian Burke is really the standout of those 8, has to be given the full league starting at wing forward. Sean O’Brien may see league time too but don’t see any of the others being at the required level. Keith Evans will be a very good addition in a year or two if he can strengthen up physically. Others I think that should get a good look in the league are Mark Ryan, Dan O’Donoghue, Ronan Buckley and Joe O’Connor if he comes back well from the injury. Unfortunately I’m struggling to see any other players putting up their hands. I know he's on the edges, but I thought Mike Breen controlled the centre yesterday.
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Post by horsebox77 on Oct 22, 2023 22:37:54 GMT
O'Brien is John Brendans son, is Burhe anything to Sean Burke from Castlemaine?
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 22, 2023 22:38:04 GMT
Cillian Burke is really the standout of those 8, has to be given the full league starting at wing forward. Sean O’Brien may see league time too but don’t see any of the others being at the required level. Keith Evans will be a very good addition in a year or two if he can strengthen up physically. Others I think that should get a good look in the league are Mark Ryan, Dan O’Donoghue, Ronan Buckley and Joe O’Connor if he comes back well from the injury. Unfortunately I’m struggling to see any other players putting up their hands. I know he's on the edges, but I thought Mike Breen controlled the centre yesterday. I agree but I think that Mike Breens best position with Kerry would be as a sweeping 6. I don't think he has the pace to play on the wings. Could be a good replacement for Tadgh Morley I think, if it came to it, very similar attributes.
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Post by The16thMan on Oct 23, 2023 0:36:36 GMT
Looks like Dublin in the first round of the league at hom followed by, Monaghan A Mayo H Derry A Tyrone H Rossies A Galway H Anybody know if there's any truth to this or any sources/links??
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