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Post by ginger on Aug 20, 2004 18:50:25 GMT
TEXT Now that the prospect of another batch of All-Ireland medals seems very good lets delve into the past. Of the existing clubs in Kerry which one would hold the most senior medals. That is medals won by players born in its catchment area either with Kerry or with other counties. It may be difficult in Tralee and Killarney but lets have a bit of crac. Everybody should at least know the players from their own club.
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Post by KingdomGold on Aug 20, 2004 18:56:26 GMT
Well from the legion GAA club there would be John Culloty ,- Culloty , - Culloty, John Keane ,Diarmuid o Donoghue and Peter O leary
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Post by Exiled2Dublin on Aug 22, 2004 7:24:36 GMT
A fair ould trawl though the record books would be needed to sort that one out. Off the top of my head I'd say the Stacks would figure highly being well represented during the golden years of 75 to 86 and on the great AI winning teams of the 20s and 30s.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 23, 2004 7:07:46 GMT
Austin Stacks have won 82 - list below.
ALL IRELAND MEDALS Power Ger 8 ' 75,'78,'79,'80,'81,'84,'85,'86 Sheehy Mikey 8 '75,'78,'79,'80,'81,'84,'85,'86 O'Keeffe John 7 ' 69,'70,'75,'78,'79,'80,'81 Barrett Joe 6 '24,'26,'29,'30,'31,'32 Ryan Jackie 6 ' 24,'26,'29,'30,'31,'32 Landers John Joe Purty 5 ' 29,'30,'31,'32,'37 Doyle Miko 5 '29,'30,'31,'32,'37 Landers Tim Roundy 5 '31,'32,'37,'39,'41 O'Keeffe Ger 4 '75,'79,'80,'81 Baily Jimmy 3 ' 24,'26,'29 O'Connell Denis Rory 3 '24'26'29 Gorman Jimmy Gawksie 3 '39,'40,'41 Landers Bill 2 '24,'32 Moriarty Jerry Pluggy 2 '24,'26 Sweeney Ned Pedler 2 '29,'30 Barrett Tommy 2 ' 30,'31 Ryan Dan 2 '30,'31 Regan Martin Bracker 2 '31,'32 Slattery John Gal 1 '26 O'Connor Tom 1 '29 Healy Michael 1 '32 Barrett Joe Joe 1 '62 McElligott John L. 1 '79 Laide Pa 1 '97 Kirby William 1 '97
Dinny Long is now a club member (Chairman) and won medals with Cork but played for his home club when winning them. Presume that doesn't count?
Another interesting fact - Tralee CBS has produced more All Ireland Football medal winners than any other school in Ireland. Sunday Indo ran a piece last year on it and they couldn't find a school at the time to challange it in hurling.
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Post by JohnBoscoMclane on Aug 23, 2004 8:19:52 GMT
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Post by buck02 on Aug 23, 2004 8:36:24 GMT
Surely the 82 (or 80 if the historian is correct) cannot be beaten. Its some haul but its also sad not to see the stacks producing Kerry players over the last number of years. Damn soccer.
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Post by ginger on Aug 23, 2004 15:27:38 GMT
Austinstacksabu you have come up with a formidable list but I thought that Anthony O'Keeffe's name should have been on it. I have doubts about three on your list but I am waiting to see if some other parish claims them. Also were not Rock Street men on the teams, 1903/4, 1909, 1913/4. I am also waiting to see what the "Blues" and Boherbui claim and the clear air boys. A friend of mine from Inch claims that Annascaul players have won more than 30 with the following players; P. Kennedy, J. Counihan, G. Teahan, T. O'Donnell, C. O'Sullivan, S. Murphy, Seamus Murphy, D. O'Shea and T. Doyle.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 23, 2004 15:34:59 GMT
Being honest with you Ginger, I've taken it from the Stacks website - www.austinstacks.com - it would have taken me an age otherwise. Judging from JohnBosco's comments, they seem to have left out the early winners for that reason. As for Tony O'Keeffe, did he play in an All Ireland semi or final. Remember the old rule that existed until not so long ago - even Mike Hassett was knobbled by it. Out of interest, which 3 players are you suspect about?
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on Aug 23, 2004 15:36:30 GMT
Stacks hav the most all ireland club winners....Think tony o keeffe has a medal as a sub but couldnt be sure....
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 24, 2004 6:57:07 GMT
All Ireland club winners? Wouldn't that be Nemo?
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Post by JohnBoscoMclane on Aug 24, 2004 10:52:05 GMT
Tony played in 1977 semifinal v dubs.
In the early yrs the team was made of mostly tralee forwards and killarney backs with odd exception being Dennhy Curran and Rodie kirwan from Castleisland. kirwan was a wterford man working as a clerk in the bank who had a huge intersest in the oylimpics and went to alot of them until his death in the 1960s. He was in Los Angelus when south kerry Eamon Ned Fitzgerald came fourth in the hop skip and jump for Ireland. Fitzgerald have won all irelands with kerry in the first four in row kerry team 1929-1932, teacher in dublin. Kirwan as at those games as an offical. supporter of team.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 24, 2004 10:56:00 GMT
So Tony's missing from the list. Must check up with the stacks webmaster to see why he's not on.
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Post by Other_KYFan_in_Dublin on Aug 25, 2004 11:25:53 GMT
If he played in 77 semi final only then he wouldn't necessarily merit a place on the list, seeing as Dublin won that game and the subsequent All-Ireland final...
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 25, 2004 14:45:25 GMT
Thanks Other KY Fan - jumped to conclusion without sussing the date properly. He never won a medal because his one year was '77.
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Post by ginger on Aug 25, 2004 17:30:47 GMT
In excess of 650 All-Ireland medals have been won by Kerryy men - a fantastic achievement considering that football is played in all 32 counties. I have gone quickly through the current clubs and though I am unsure about some substitutes (a pity no proper record hasn't been kept) and the earlier years. The list is as follows: Abbeydorney- Quite a few born in the parish Annascaul - Approximately 30 Ardfert - Batt O'Shea and a Lawlor? Asdee - Jack Walsh and Jn. Kennedy Austin Stacks - see earlier posting Ballydonoghue - Moriarty? Eddy Dowling, Gus Cremins, Flaherty and Bunyan Ballyduff - won hurling all-Ireland Ballyheigue- nil Ballylongford - Jn. Walsh, C. Kennelly, P and E O'Donoghue, Jackie and Barry Walsh? Ballymac - John and Jas. Baily Beale - Bob Stack, Ogie and the Bomber, P. Liston beaufort - Murt Kelly, B. & P. lynch, P. Breen (May have been Listry) Brosna - nil Caherdaniel - E. Fitzgerald, S. O'Shea Castlegregory - Tom and Tom Moriarty, P. O'Shea and J. Dowling Castleisland - D. Breen, Redmond Prendeville, Timmy O'Sullivan, Con and Dave Geaney. Causeway - nil Churchill - Pat mcCarthy Clounmacon - nil Cordal - tim tiger Lyons Cromane- part of killorglin Currow - Mick Galwey, Mick Fleming Dingle - Batt o'Connor, Joe O'Sullivan, Jack Sheehy, Sean, Bawn and Tim Brosnan, B. Dillon, T. Long, J. McKenna, M. Moore, T. O'Connor, M. Falvey, T. Ashe, P. Hussey, V. O'Connor, B. O'Sullivan. (30+) Dr. Crokes - Working on this one. Dromid - None yet Duagh - D. McAuliffe and T. Costelloe, D. Dillon Finuge - J. Deenihan, Fitzmaurice, Breen firies - D. daly Fossa - nil Gaeltacht - J. Fitzgerald, B. Garvey, D. Cavanagh, M. Murphy, T. Long, P. B. M. Dara and T. O'Shea, D. O, Cinneide, A. MacGearailt? S MacGearailt (25) Gale Rangers nil Glenbeigh - J. O'Riordan, P. Griffin Glenflesk - S. Moynihan, P. Healy. Gneeveguilla - A. O'Donovan Jo. Mitchells - working on - not as many as Stacks. Keel - T. Prendergast, G. Teahan? Kenmare - M. O'Sullivan Kerins O'Rahilly's - Again not as many as Stacks. Kilcummin - Dee O'Connor, S. Kelly, M. McCarthy Kilgarvan - D. Beckett Knockanure - nil Knocknagoshel - E. Walsh? Eamon Walsh, C. O'Connoe, J. Murphy, McElligott. Laune Rangers - J & N Lucey, M. F. Russell, L and M Hassett Legion - J; D; and M lyne, J. Cullotty, D. O'Donoghue Lispole - B. Casey, J. Moriarty, B. Higgins Listowel - P. Kennelly, T. Kennely, N. Kennelly, G. McMahon, A. McAuliffe Listry - C. Murphy, Paddy, John and Jim Cronin. Milltown - Willie Maher Moyvane - Con and Jim Brosnan, T. Mahoney, Paud Sullivan, B. O'Callaghan, J. Mulvihill? Na gaeil - nil Rathmore - D. J. crowley, D. o'Keeffe, T. O'Sullivan Renard - Ned O'Neill Scartaglin - nil Skelligs Rangers - nil Sneem - Gearoid Fitzgerald, M. J. palmer, J. Egan, P. J. Burns? K. Burns Spa - D O'Sullivan, M. Gleeson, P. O'mahoney, M. McAuliffe? Possibly more from the early days. St. pats - nil St. Senans - nil St. Mary's- Maurice and Ned Fitzgerald, Jerome and Jack O'Shea, P. J. O'Sullivan, Jack Murphy. St. Michaels/Foilmore - Gerry O' and T. McCarthy Tarbert - nil Templenoe - The three Spillanes. Tuosist - Phil Sullivan Valentia - Mick O' Connell, J. Casey, G. O'Driscoll, McCarthy? Waterville - Mick and Denis O'Dwyer. Up to you folks to find the missing men.
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Post by JohnBoscoMclane on Aug 26, 2004 10:06:24 GMT
Ginger abbeydorney had the Rice brothers in the 1900s,
Scartaglin Tangauay chap a teacher in the 1900s.
Good post by you anyway.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 26, 2004 10:44:22 GMT
Some posting Ginger - thanks for that. We'll have a revised Kerry history here yet.
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Post by Other_KYFan_in_Dublin on Aug 27, 2004 15:27:40 GMT
Excellent post Ginger. Castleisland should have a few more though, Charlie Nelligan and Dermot Hanafin can be added to that list. John and Derry Crowley should also be added to the Glenfesk list. Haven't the time to read the whole list but i'm sure we'll come up with a few more for you!!!
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Post by ginger on Aug 30, 2004 22:55:52 GMT
John Mitchells: Both stacks and Mitchells claim Jackie Ryan, unless there was two players of the same name. With Jackie Ryan I make it at least 60 All-Ireland medals won by players born in their catchment area. T. o'Gorman (2); J. O'Gorman (2); M. McCarthy (5)? C. healy (3); A. Stack (3); J. T. Fitzgerald (1); T. Costelloe (3); D. Mullins (2); Jackie Ryan (6); John Joe Sheehy (4); P. Whitty (2); W. Kinnerk (1); F. O'Keeffe (1); G. O'Mahoney (1); P. Sheehy (4); N. Sheehy (2); S. Sheehy (1); S. Roche (1); M. Morris (1); T. Dowd (3); J. Higgins (1); J. Riordan (3); J. Keohane (5); B. O'Donnell (1); T. Healy (4). It is possible that there is some substitutes missing. Not sure if the M. McCarthy who figured in the first five All-Ireland winning teams is one and the same person.  John 'Gal' Slattery and Jas. Bailey among the Austin Stacks list were actually from the Ballymac area.
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Post by austinstacksabu on Aug 31, 2004 10:32:51 GMT
Well, within catchment area the Austin Stacks numbers would be somewhat depleted from the 82 that I listed. What is the Stacks catchment area - has it not changed over the years etc. Did Ballymac have a club back then?
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Post by JohnBoscoMclane on Aug 31, 2004 16:24:48 GMT
yA BALLMAC WON 4COUNTY TITLES IN 1891, 1894. 1895, 1818. dIN jOE BAILY AND HIS BROTHER PATIE WON MEDALS WITH BALLYMAC IN 1918. dIN jOE WENT TO SERVE AS cOUNTY bOARD cHAIRMAN.
JACKIE RYAN WON HIS MEDAL BEFORE STACKS FORMED SO MITCHELS CLAIM HIM
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