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Post by Whosinmidfield on May 22, 2023 19:20:31 GMT
Would like to see D Clifford out in the half-forward line as he is being swallowed up in the corner, has the creativity and can kick from distance. D O Connor hasn't worked out at wing-forward before. New faces & thinking outside the box now for the management otherwise we will go out in the quarter final. Jack has yet to win back to back AI's and for this team to be respected. Put Seanie on the edge of the square as a target man. David can feed off him but it’ll also allow him to drift out and kick points from distance as Seanie will be a target inside. Completely agree on the thinking outside the box. We need athletic players who have also have the physicality required in the middle 8. Bringing in someone who hasn’t seen game this year even that’s coming from the bench may improve the situation. Also if we’re trying players in different positions the first thing I’d try is Mike Breen at midfield. He’d help out Tadhg Morley big time.
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Post by exiled on May 22, 2023 21:23:08 GMT
Sometimes situations force radical decisions. Galway have found a midfielder from nowhere this year in John Maher.He has been their main midfielder this year. It's a team game and Kerry seem to pick players based on underage success. McStay brought in young untried players and it's working for him. We need new players in the squad to pressure the team. I think Cillian Burke is worth a place on the 26 against Cork.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on May 22, 2023 21:38:18 GMT
Sometimes situations force radical decisions. We need new players in the squad to pressure the team. I think Cillian Burke is worth a place on the 26 against Cork. I agree. He would offer the athleticism and physicality needed combined with an offensive threat.
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Post by thehermit on May 23, 2023 8:45:05 GMT
92% of accommodation booked out in Cork city the night of 3 June according to Booking.com. Cheapest room I can find is €190 in a very, very ordinary hotel/glorified B+B (without the second B) that I've stayed in before.
Maybe supporters need to continue voting with their feet until it finally dawns on the GAA that treating fans as if money was no object during the worst cost of living crisis in modern times is suicide.
Only 23k in Killarney last Saturday. A small crowd in Cork almost certainly. It will be interesting to see what attendances are like at all the group stage games once they conclude.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 23, 2023 9:42:14 GMT
92% of accommodation booked out in Cork city the night of 3 June according to Booking.com. Cheapest room I can find is €190 in a very, very ordinary hotel/glorified B+B (without the second B) that I've stayed in before. Maybe supporters need to continue voting with their feet until it finally dawns on the GAA that treating fans as if money was no object during the worst cost of living crisis in modern times is suicide. Only 23k in Killarney last Saturday. A small crowd in Cork almost certainly. It will be interesting to see what attendances are like at all the group stage games once they conclude. Train up and down I reckon Hermit. About 56 return. Stayed in Killarney on Sat evening and I love Killarney but it was very messy on Sat night. If we make a primarily QF ill be heading down and back same day.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 23, 2023 10:35:35 GMT
Anyone know if we make a preliminary QF when that would be played ?
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Post by Joxer on May 23, 2023 11:07:44 GMT
Anyone know if we make a preliminary QF when that would be played ? Currently scheduled for Sat., June 24th.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 23, 2023 11:25:58 GMT
Anyone know if we make a preliminary QF when that would be played ? Currently scheduled for Sat., June 24th. Good man Joxer..
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Post by thehermit on May 23, 2023 11:56:45 GMT
Anyone know if we make a preliminary QF when that would be played ? Currently scheduled for Sat., June 24th. Ah feck I'm at Blur that night in Dublin!
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Post by horsebox77 on May 23, 2023 12:31:27 GMT
Can someone try answer ,e a simple question. Why has Seanie commenced taking frees off the hands?
It's not working for us.
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Post by jerryewe on May 23, 2023 12:38:14 GMT
Would like to see D Clifford out in the half-forward line as he is being swallowed up in the corner, has the creativity and can kick from distance. D O Connor hasn't worked out at wing-forward before. New faces & thinking outside the box now for the management otherwise we will go out in the quarter final. Jack has yet to win back to back AI's and for this team to be respected. I can already hear Ambrose on Radio Kerry complaining that he is too far from goal and that he should be inside on the edge of the square!!!
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Post by horsebox77 on May 23, 2023 12:42:03 GMT
Looking ahead to Cork, certain players are just not cutting it for me at present, primarily up front and in midfield, Similarly, I am a huge fan of Graham, however, I think his distribution at stages on Saturday was poor, in particular one ball in the second half in front of the terrace should have been let in first time, he delayed and when DC spun inside, the kick was to this front allowing Mayo an easy turnover.
I cannot see wholesale changes, Brosnan for me flatters to deceive along the same lines and Looney, O’Leary and Casey, great Crokes men to their system but cannot transfer to county, despite what Ambrose and Liam Brosnan say.
I think against Cork, we need ballers, comfortable ballers, strong both on the front foot or defensively. Most teams play two inside, so it is incumbent to pick a roaming baller inside.. anyway, with my selectors hat on, I’d be calling the following XV Saturday week.
Ryan, O’Beagleoich, Foley, Tom Sull, Breen, Tadgh, White, Diarmuid O’Connor, Jack Barry, Adrian Spillane, Seanie, Moynihan, Paudie, DC and Geaney.
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Post by dc84 on May 23, 2023 12:51:32 GMT
Can someone try answer ,e a simple question. Why has Seanie commenced taking frees off the hands? It's not working for us. His injury means he cant practice off the ground think its hampering him more than we know tbh
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Post by jerryewe on May 23, 2023 13:02:38 GMT
92% of accommodation booked out in Cork city the night of 3 June according to Booking.com. Cheapest room I can find is €190 in a very, very ordinary hotel/glorified B+B (without the second B) that I've stayed in before. Maybe supporters need to continue voting with their feet until it finally dawns on the GAA that treating fans as if money was no object during the worst cost of living crisis in modern times is suicide. Only 23k in Killarney last Saturday. A small crowd in Cork almost certainly. It will be interesting to see what attendances are like at all the group stage games once they conclude. Just on that 23k attendance figure, I thought that I read somewhere that it was a sellout, does anybody have information on how many tickets were made available and what is the actual capacity of Fitzgerald Stadium? Also, do we over-estimate the crowds we expect to go to games? Kerry have played 3 attractive qualifier games in Killarney over the last 10 or so years (Tyrone 2012, Mayo 2019 & 2023) and the attendances from memory have all been under 30k. I think those are very respectable attendances compared to any other sporting event in Ireland. Even take for example the Tipp v Limerick game on Sunday. 2 neighbouring counties with fairly large populations in a venue that is accessible & familiar to both sets of supporters. The attendance was 37k I think which again is good but is not near a sellout.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 23, 2023 13:05:53 GMT
in a word.. Money, its an expensive day out when you have to factor, travel food, match tickets etc, multiply that by the numbers heading from the house.
When you consider that, then factor the incoming ESB bill, often the only option is the TV or the local if par per view..
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Post by peanuts on May 23, 2023 13:12:36 GMT
in a word.. Money, its an expensive day out when you have to factor, travel food, match tickets etc, multiply that by the numbers heading from the house. When you consider that, then factor the incoming ESB bill, often the only option is the TV or the local if par per view.. Yes, it was a poor crowd from Mayo in particular seeing as they generally are very good for travelling. On the initial point I thought I saw that there was 31k at the 2019 game but I could be wrong.
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Post by thehermit on May 23, 2023 13:17:16 GMT
92% of accommodation booked out in Cork city the night of 3 June according to Booking.com. Cheapest room I can find is €190 in a very, very ordinary hotel/glorified B+B (without the second B) that I've stayed in before. Maybe supporters need to continue voting with their feet until it finally dawns on the GAA that treating fans as if money was no object during the worst cost of living crisis in modern times is suicide. Only 23k in Killarney last Saturday. A small crowd in Cork almost certainly. It will be interesting to see what attendances are like at all the group stage games once they conclude. Just on that 23k attendance figure, I thought that I read somewhere that it was a sellout, does anybody have information on how many tickets were made available and what is the actual capacity of Fitzgerald Stadium? Also, do we over-estimate the crowds we expect to go to games? Kerry have played 3 attractive qualifier games in Killarney over the last 10 or so years (Tyrone 2012, Mayo 2019 & 2023) and the attendances from memory have all been under 30k. I think those are very respectable attendances compared to any other sporting event in Ireland. Even take for example the Tipp v Limerick game on Sunday. 2 neighbouring counties with fairly large populations in a venue that is accessible & familiar to both sets of supporters. The attendance was 37k I think which again is good but is not near a sellout.
Yes I think we all read reports in mid-week that the game was 'heading' for a sell out. Don't know what that was based on. The max capacity for the ground last Saturday was set at 35,000 (the town end is not counted given it has no terrace/seating).
So the crowd was 12,000 under what Fitzgerald's could hold on the day.
I noted very few Mayo fans either milling around the pubs before, on the terrace, from what I could hear from across in the stands, and hanging around Killarney afterwards for the night. Very unusal for Mayo of all teams not to bring massive support.
Now you can argue that was reflective of a lack of confidence in getting a win in Killarney given the 28 year record, their experience last time here in 2019 and the Rossie result.
But I reckon it also had a hell of a lot to do with the price of staying or even having a day out in Killarney in 2023 and the fact there's at least 2 if not 3,4,5,6 matches yet to be going to within the next 9 weeks.
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Post by jerryewe on May 23, 2023 13:28:16 GMT
Yes I think we all read reports in mid-week that the game was 'heading' for a sell out. Don't know what that was based on. The max capacity for the ground last Saturday was set at 35,000 (the town end is not counted given it has no terrace/seating). So the crowd was 12,000 under what Fitzgerald's could hold on the day. I noted very few Mayo fans either milling around the pubs before, on the terrace, from what I could hear from across in the stands, and hanging around Killarney afterwards for the night. Very unusal for Mayo of all teams not to bring massive support.
Now you can argue that was reflective of a lack of confidence in getting a win in Killarney given the 28 year record, their experience last time here in 2019 and the Rossie result. But I reckon it also had a hell of a lot to do with the price of staying or even having a day out in Killarney in 2023 and the fact there's at least 2 if not 3,4,5,6 matches yet to be going to within the next 9 weeks.
Definitely has something to do with cost & likelihood of having more matches to come so hard to blame Mayo fans for not travelling. I think there is also something in the fact that Mayo fans would not be as familiar traveliing to Killarney so didn't want to be dealing with that headache. As an aside if I got my hands on the money the Irish Govt. is supposed to be getting from Facebook & Apple I would build a rail line from Derry to Cork to make travel along the West Coast somewhat easier.
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Post by moth on May 23, 2023 13:43:34 GMT
I think the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and to expect a different result. So far this year, we've played the same way, with largely the same group of players. The Munster final looked great, but in truth Clare were poor - they didn't lay a glove on us. That was understandable - a defender that took on either of the Cliffords on the day would have been vilified. They were in an impossible position. I'd like to see a much changed team for the Cork match, but I don't expect to. At a minimum, we need to add some ball winners around the middle third. Also, no player should be un-droppable.
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Post by horsebox77 on May 23, 2023 15:20:35 GMT
I think the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and to expect a different result. So far this year, we've played the same way, with largely the same group of players. The Munster final looked great, but in truth Clare were poor - they didn't lay a glove on us. That was understandable - a defender that took on either of the Cliffords on the day would have been vilified. They were in an impossible position. I'd like to see a much changed team for the Cork match, but I don't expect to. At a minimum, we need to add some ball winners around the middle third. Also, no player should be un-droppable. On the flipside, up to Saturday many would have said if it is not broken, don't fix.
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Post by backothehill on May 23, 2023 17:26:38 GMT
Season tickets allocation "North" stand in Cork. Any vies on this?
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Post by backothehill on May 23, 2023 17:28:10 GMT
Season tickets allocation "North" stand in Cork. Any vies on this? "Views" sorry
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Post by john4 on May 23, 2023 18:02:33 GMT
Season tickets allocation "North" stand in Cork. Any vies on this? Ya it's perfect, Cork equivalent of the Cusack Stand! Peaky cap if it's a good day 🌞😎
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Post by kerryfan2022 on May 23, 2023 19:13:17 GMT
92% of accommodation booked out in Cork city the night of 3 June according to Booking.com. Cheapest room I can find is €190 in a very, very ordinary hotel/glorified B+B (without the second B) that I've stayed in before. Maybe supporters need to continue voting with their feet until it finally dawns on the GAA that treating fans as if money was no object during the worst cost of living crisis in modern times is suicide. Only 23k in Killarney last Saturday. A small crowd in Cork almost certainly. It will be interesting to see what attendances are like at all the group stage games once they conclude. Just on that 23k attendance figure, I thought that I read somewhere that it was a sellout, does anybody have information on how many tickets were made available and what is the actual capacity of Fitzgerald Stadium? Also, do we over-estimate the crowds we expect to go to games? Kerry have played 3 attractive qualifier games in Killarney over the last 10 or so years (Tyrone 2012, Mayo 2019 & 2023) and the attendances from memory have all been under 30k. I think those are very respectable attendances compared to any other sporting event in Ireland. Even take for example the Tipp v Limerick game on Sunday. 2 neighbouring counties with fairly large populations in a venue that is accessible & familiar to both sets of supporters. The attendance was 37k I think which again is good but is not near a sellout. There was far more than 23k there. When I scanned my season ticket, the scanner didn’t work but the person said it’s fine . It happened loads more so does that not mean those figures were included. By looking at the terrace from the stand, I would say close to 30000 were there .
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Post by The16thMan on May 23, 2023 21:00:55 GMT
Just on that 23k attendance figure, I thought that I read somewhere that it was a sellout, does anybody have information on how many tickets were made available and what is the actual capacity of Fitzgerald Stadium? Also, do we over-estimate the crowds we expect to go to games? Kerry have played 3 attractive qualifier games in Killarney over the last 10 or so years (Tyrone 2012, Mayo 2019 & 2023) and the attendances from memory have all been under 30k. I think those are very respectable attendances compared to any other sporting event in Ireland. Even take for example the Tipp v Limerick game on Sunday. 2 neighbouring counties with fairly large populations in a venue that is accessible & familiar to both sets of supporters. The attendance was 37k I think which again is good but is not near a sellout. There was far more than 23k there. When I scanned my season ticket, the scanner didn’t work but the person said it’s fine . It happened loads more so does that not mean those figures were included. By looking at the terrace from the stand, I would say close to 30000 were there . Alot of gaps in the terraces I'd say the 23k sounds right.
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Post by greengold35 on May 24, 2023 8:45:41 GMT
There was far more than 23k there. When I scanned my season ticket, the scanner didn’t work but the person said it’s fine . It happened loads more so does that not mean those figures were included. By looking at the terrace from the stand, I would say close to 30000 were there . Alot of gaps in the terraces I'd say the 23k sounds right. I would agree on attendance - seems lots of season tickets were not availed of - county board’s initial allocation of stand tickets to clubs was 2, that increased to 6 & then 10 by Weds.
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Post by peanuts on May 24, 2023 12:43:10 GMT
Alot of gaps in the terraces I'd say the 23k sounds right. I would agree on attendance - seems lots of season tickets were not availed of - county board’s initial allocation of stand tickets to clubs was 2, that increased to 6 & then 10 by Weds. Not necessarily. I opted for terrace tickets instead of stand once I knew it was going to be a nice day. Other season ticket holders may have done the same.
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Post by The16thMan on May 24, 2023 12:57:47 GMT
I would agree on attendance - seems lots of season tickets were not availed of - county board’s initial allocation of stand tickets to clubs was 2, that increased to 6 & then 10 by Weds. Not necessarily. I opted for terrace tickets instead of stand once I knew it was going to be a nice day. Other season ticket holders may have done the same. I was the same and all season ticket holders I was speaking to opted for the terrace as well. Mayo had a big enough presence in the stand but very little in the terrace whilst it seems it was the opposite for Kerry
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 24, 2023 18:33:41 GMT
Not necessarily. I opted for terrace tickets instead of stand once I knew it was going to be a nice day. Other season ticket holders may have done the same. I was the same and all season ticket holders I was speaking to opted for the terrace as well. Mayo had a big enough presence in the stand but very little in the terrace whilst it seems it was the opposite for Kerry I was the same as was the lads with me. We all opted for terrace tickets.
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Post by ak77 on May 24, 2023 21:10:01 GMT
Long time listener, first time caller.
Thank God for Saturday. We know exactly where we're at now and where we need to get to.
Caught cold like that too many times coming out of Munster, without a second chance. Luckily we have that second chance now.
Learnings.
1. Intensity is way off. Should be easily rectified. 2. Without Moran, we must play a 3 man midfield. Adrian Spillane is the best man here. 3. Need Begley back in half back line and GOS back into fill back line asap. 4. Midfield was overrun but not just 8/9s fault. We were overrun throughout. If JB doesn't up his game significantly soon, I'd look at trying BOS in his place. Still wouldn't write JB off yet. Saturday was a systems failure. 5. Half forward line needs surgery. I'd have Adrian, Paudie and O Brien. Need to push O Brien in now and carry him if needed. Need up to speed for 6 weeks time. 6. Seanie hasn't got going at all yet. Need to move him to top of the D with PG and DC inside. 7. It's not the end of the road for anyone. Just like Kilkian seems to be better from the bench, maybe Dara and Tony. 8. Dylan Casey will come food, early days yet. He was hung out to dry last week. 9. Hopefully Ruairi will grow game by game and give us something fresh by the time we get to Croke Park. Here's my team along with the finishers in their positions. Need workhorses early doors and the finisher's to come on when it has all opened up a bit.
1. Ryan 2. GOS - Casey 3. Foley 4. Tom 5. White 6. Morley - Breen 7. Beaglaoich - Murphy 8. Diarmuid 9. Jack - Barry Dan 10. Adrian - Ruairi 11. Paudie 12. O Brien - Dara 13. Seanie 14. The Cliff 15. Geaney - Tony/Killian
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