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Post by mossie on Nov 19, 2023 20:44:38 GMT
The Cliffords have the o'donoghue cup next week!!
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Post by mike70 on Nov 19, 2023 20:45:07 GMT
Well done to both teams today, served up a great final, the MT team just had a bit more about them 1 to 15, especially dominated the middle for long periods.
The old cliche goals win games was very much so today, the goals were sucking the life out of Fossa , fair play to them, battled to the last kick.
Best of luck to Miltown castle main in the munster championship.
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Post by mossie on Nov 19, 2023 20:52:43 GMT
An astonishing crowd in Tralee for an intermediate grade match. I think the Munster Council will bemoan this Fossa defeat . The Clifford cash cow has been removed from the scene. Normal sized crowds from here on in. This was a contest of the first rank, featuring some marvelous individual displays, most notably David C. and Cillian Burke. There were several others. In my view the better team won. They were the better balanced team . Fossa tend to punch above their weight because of the exploits of the two boys. Still, it could have swung the other way. Paudie scythed though in the first half and appeared to be fouled . The referee had no hesitation in awarding a penalty. I was too far away to say yes or no. With David preparing to do the needful, a consultation ensued between referee and umpires. The decision was overturned . Did Paudie over carry ? Charge with the ball? In those situations a free out would result. But no, a hop ball was the decision? I have no idea why. Fossa were awarded a free from the hop ball which was lashed to the net. However, this was called back and a free in awarded. Perhaps, the original free was taken from the wrong place. No idea. At the death , Fossa were awarded an indirect free which came to nought. I must confess my ignorance here . I do not know the circumstances in which an indirect free so awarded. Perhaps, somebody might enlighten me. Cillian Burke was a monster at midfield. Here is a man we are crying out for. Strong in the air, a powerful , straight line runner. Even at his young age , I will be surprised if he is not a crucial contributor for Kerry next year. Of course his immediate concern is the journey he is about to embark on with his club. That Gavin Horan at midfield is no slouch either. Of course I have no idea of the ability of teams waiting in line for them. On the evidence of today it will take a formidable team to beat them . Mid Kerry will sorely miss them in 2024. So, the odyssey is over for Fossa. They went out on their shields. The great man, in spite of being predated by two opponents all through , was just that. Great . As in really great. Had a chance to level towards the end from a free but the angle was too acute and the wind too capricious. No fault. Paudie faded a little in the second half. After seeing Listowel/Ballymacelligott and today’s match , the faith in football’s future is restored to some extent. I was sorry to miss the hurling match in Mountcoal but the lure of watching an artist at work was irresistible. I believe Crotta put on a massive performance. Commiserations to them. a mighty match in Mountcoal as well Veteran, Crotta o'Neills much like Fossa went out on their shields club football and clun hurling providing great entertainment
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 19, 2023 20:54:55 GMT
The Cliffords have the o'donoghue cup next week!! Surely be to God they can be let off from that now.
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Post by mossie on Nov 19, 2023 21:51:32 GMT
The Cliffords have the o'donoghue cup next week!! Surely be to God they can be let off from that now. I tend to agree
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Post by mossie on Nov 19, 2023 21:52:02 GMT
was the crowd in Tralee today bigger than the senior county championship final??
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Post by southward on Nov 20, 2023 7:55:06 GMT
Better team won for sure Fossa got a lot of manafactured frees to keep them in the penalty that wasn’t was soft the indirect free at the end was for what foul there was no fouls ? None ! I couldn't see any foul either but Fossa seemed to get a few soft ones late on. Re veteran's question on the circumstances in which a indirect freekick may be awarded - does anyone know? Hard to know what was going on at the end there. I was waiting for Fossa to tap that one over the bar.
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Post by clarinman on Nov 20, 2023 9:09:15 GMT
Better team won for sure Fossa got a lot of manafactured frees to keep them in the penalty that wasn’t was soft the indirect free at the end was for what foul there was no fouls ? None ! I couldn't see any foul either but Fossa seemed to get a few soft ones late on. Re veteran's question on the circumstances in which a indirect freekick may be awarded - does anyone know? Hard to know what was going on at the end there. I was waiting for Fossa to tap that one over the bar. An indirect free is given to the team in possession when the referee stops the game for an injury. It looked to me like the Fossa player banged his head off the ground on landing after catching the ball.
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 20, 2023 12:18:32 GMT
I couldn't see any foul either but Fossa seemed to get a few soft ones late on. Re veteran's question on the circumstances in which a indirect freekick may be awarded - does anyone know? Hard to know what was going on at the end there. I was waiting for Fossa to tap that one over the bar. An indirect free is given to the team in possession when the referee stops the game for an injury. It looked to me like the Fossa player banged his head off the ground on landing after catching the ball. I heard some lad on the way out yesterday guestioning Paudie's decision not to take the point from the free. The level of knowledge of the actual rules of GAA is just beyond abysmal. I would love to know what percentage of the GAA membership have ever read the rules. Super game in difficult conditions. Well done Milltown-Castlemaine. Strong odds the Kerry intermediate championship is the best intermediate competition in Ireland. Next year's already shaping up to be mouth-watering.
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Post by homerj on Nov 20, 2023 19:26:43 GMT
An indirect free is given to the team in possession when the referee stops the game for an injury. It looked to me like the Fossa player banged his head off the ground on landing after catching the ball. Super game in difficult conditions. Well done Milltown-Castlemaine. Strong odds the Kerry intermediate championship is the best intermediate competition in Ireland. Next year's already shaping up to be mouth-watering. In fairness, our top 8 intermediate teams should be senior, if doing like for like comparison.
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Post by veteran on Nov 22, 2023 22:59:00 GMT
I did nt see the intermediate final but watched highlights on tg4.Now ive seen Cillian Burke a few times and i was very impressed with him.The narrative is he was excellent v Fossa.Now maybe he was but watching the highlights it shows him going on a great run for one of the goals but other than that he was invisible.Now can someone that was at the match give me a true view on Cillian s performance.I see John Evans thought he eas excellent.Now obviously im only judging on highlights and thats why im asking.TG4 broadcasted a good few mins and David Clifford looked superb as did Eanna O Connor but Cillian non existent.Was he very good? Yes, Cillian was excellent . Strong in the air , robust , powerful runner. This man appreciates , unlike a lot of players, that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. You must realize that the TV highlights emphasizes scores/scorers , hence the prominence of David and Eanna etc in that coverage.
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Post by Fado on Nov 23, 2023 13:29:36 GMT
Cillian has been playing very well, his driving runs would be most welcome in the county team.
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Post by edgeofthesquare on Nov 26, 2023 16:37:57 GMT
Milltown beaten by Cork’s third tier winner, so the 9th best team in Kerry beaten by the 25th best team in Cork. Very poor it has to be said, not a great sign of football in the county. Milltown are a lot weaker than last year’s winners Rathmore, Milltown are very reliant on Eanna O’Connor and Cillian Burke I feel they’ve 3 or 4 other very good players as well but the level of the rest of the team wouldn’t be the highest. Analysing the intermediate this year both Kilcummin and Beaufort looked like potential winners but were stopped by injuries to key players so Milltown did have a bit of luck. This result doesn’t advance the calls for 10 or 12 Senior clubs in Kerry.
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Post by mike70 on Nov 26, 2023 17:58:33 GMT
From early reports Eanna held to two or three free, needed more to win a munster, young Burke kicked a point but not sure if any influence on the game, any report or eye witness accounts, miltown will be well disappointed, but looks like their neighbour John evans got one over them today, as he did many times in the past.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 26, 2023 18:05:10 GMT
I wouldn't be over reacting to that loss today.
Winning a epic final and the aftermath can be hard to replicate.
Atleast we won't be listening to outside voices moaning about Kerry clubs now.
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Post by listowelemerrs on Nov 26, 2023 18:20:21 GMT
Milltown beaten by Cork’s third tier winner, so the 9th best team in Kerry beaten by the 25th best team in Cork. Very poor it has to be said, not a great sign of football in the county. Milltown are a lot weaker than last year’s winners Rathmore, Milltown are very reliant on Eanna O’Connor and Cillian Burke I feel they’ve 3 or 4 other very good players as well but the level of the rest of the team wouldn’t be the highest. Analysing the intermediate this year both Kilcummin and Beaufort looked like potential winners but were stopped by injuries to key players so Milltown did have a bit of luck. This result doesn’t advance the calls for 10 or 12 Senior clubs in Kerry. Don’t feel that point holds up. Everyone knows fossa would have beaten cill na matra today with the Clifford factor, milltown have been lucky this campaign… they are by no means a great team but if fossa legion stacks kilcummin all player milltown in 20 games in 20 different weeks milltown would loose most of them. They had a lucky campaign and that’s it. Many teams in Kerry intermediate would have beaten cill na matra today so the standard and division stuff doesn’t hold up. Just my opinion
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 26, 2023 18:27:07 GMT
I wouldn't be over reacting to that loss today. Winning a epic final and the aftermath can be hard to replicate. Atleast we won't be listening to outside voices moaning about Kerry clubs now. They'll still find something to complain about though.
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Post by clarinman on Nov 26, 2023 18:33:35 GMT
Milltown beaten by Cork’s third tier winner, so the 9th best team in Kerry beaten by the 25th best team in Cork. Very poor it has to be said, not a great sign of football in the county. Milltown are a lot weaker than last year’s winners Rathmore, Milltown are very reliant on Eanna O’Connor and Cillian Burke I feel they’ve 3 or 4 other very good players as well but the level of the rest of the team wouldn’t be the highest. Analysing the intermediate this year both Kilcummin and Beaufort looked like potential winners but were stopped by injuries to key players so Milltown did have a bit of luck. This result doesn’t advance the calls for 10 or 12 Senior clubs in Kerry. Don’t feel that point holds up. Everyone knows fossa would have beaten cill na matra today with the Clifford factor, milltown have been lucky this campaign… they are by no means a great team but if fossa legion stacks kilcummin all player milltown in 20 games in 20 different weeks milltown would loose most of them.They had a lucky campaign and that’s it. Many teams in Kerry intermediate would have beaten cill na matra today so the standard and division stuff doesn’t hold up. Just my opinion That's a very silly comment in my opinion. Milltown won a quarter final away to Kilcummin by 5 points. Beat legion by 3 points in the semi final with the legion getting a late goal to make the scoring respectable. Deserving winners in the final. It was tough on them playing the week after winning the intermediate final. The cork team had a 2 weak break.
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 26, 2023 18:48:11 GMT
Milltown beaten by Cork’s third tier winner, so the 9th best team in Kerry beaten by the 25th best team in Cork. Very poor it has to be said, not a great sign of football in the county. Milltown are a lot weaker than last year’s winners Rathmore, Milltown are very reliant on Eanna O’Connor and Cillian Burke I feel they’ve 3 or 4 other very good players as well but the level of the rest of the team wouldn’t be the highest. Analysing the intermediate this year both Kilcummin and Beaufort looked like potential winners but were stopped by injuries to key players so Milltown did have a bit of luck. This result doesn’t advance the calls for 10 or 12 Senior clubs in Kerry. People keep saying this thing about the intermediate winners being the 9th best team etc. While it's technically true Cork has probably double the number of clubs compared to Kerry so their Intermediate winners are obviously going to be lower ranked.
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Post by shannonsider on Nov 26, 2023 19:01:12 GMT
Milltown beaten by Cork’s third tier winner, so the 9th best team in Kerry beaten by the 25th best team in Cork. Very poor it has to be said, not a great sign of football in the county. Milltown are a lot weaker than last year’s winners Rathmore, Milltown are very reliant on Eanna O’Connor and Cillian Burke I feel they’ve 3 or 4 other very good players as well but the level of the rest of the team wouldn’t be the highest. Analysing the intermediate this year both Kilcummin and Beaufort looked like potential winners but were stopped by injuries to key players so Milltown did have a bit of luck. This result doesn’t advance the calls for 10 or 12 Senior clubs in Kerry. People keep saying this thing about the intermediate winners being the 9th best team etc. While it's technically true Cork has probably double the number of clubs compared to Kerry so their Intermediate winners are obviously going to be lower ranked. This logical point is lost on most people. Cork has 245 clubs I think it is. Kerry 70 or so. Some of the commentary around our club system is nonsensical but I’m fine with that once our structures do what they should be doing.
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