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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 26, 2022 7:52:37 GMT
the train station in cork is in glanmire is a few miles from pairc ui chaoimh and the bus station is further again I don't think you know Cork City very well at all because neither of those statements are correct. Specifically the train station is not in Glanmire and the bus station is not further from the stadium than the train station. |
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Post by kerrysouth on Nov 26, 2022 8:18:17 GMT
Annascaulite well as per Google maps iKent train station is 2.6 miles from pairc ui chaoimh or 10 euro taxi ride yes technically you are correct the bus station is 1.74 miles just under 2 miles from Pairc ui Chaoimh slightly closer than the train station but most forum users can appreciate the point I was making re convenience for concert goers .everyone complains about access to pairc ui chaoimh for matches and other events just built originally in the wrong place while Fitzgerald stadium is brilliantly located just a few minutes walk from Killarney town centre that is why if you talk to Cork people people they much prefer going to Munster finals in Killarney
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 26, 2022 8:33:30 GMT
You are overstating the importance of the bus and train station. Cork city has 15x the population of Killarney so Killarney is entirely reliant on tourism whereas cork is not
Killarneys train station maybe closer to the stadium but you need to get to Killarney first and cork is more accessible both in terms of the motorway and also the rail network
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 26, 2022 8:43:03 GMT
Also most Cork football supporters are in west cork so Killarney is not overly inconvenient as a trip. It’s a leap to say the rest of Cork prefer Killarney when it is far more inconvenient for them
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 26, 2022 8:47:29 GMT
Annascaulite well as per Google maps iKent train station is 2.6 miles from pairc ui chaoimh or 10 euro taxi ride yes technically you are correct the bus station is 1.74 miles just under 2 miles from Pairc ui Chaoimh slightly closer than the train station but most forum users can appreciate the point I was making re convenience for concert goers .everyone complains about access to pairc ui chaoimh for matches and other events just built originally in the wrong place while Fitzgerald stadium is brilliantly located just a few minutes walk from Killarney town centre that is why if you talk to Cork people people they much prefer going to Munster finals in Killarney Your point about PUíC being more or less inconvenient I agree with. It was such a glaring inaccuracy in detail I couldn't help myself though. For the record, I think these plans for Killarney stadium are absolutely nuts. But I do respect the opinion or rather the vision and optimism. But I would be shouting stop. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 26, 2022 12:51:48 GMT
Yet you were complaining about the 10 euro levy on final tickets a while back. I’d prefer additional funds to go towards coaching, all weather pitches across the county and ensuring the county team have best in class support.
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 26, 2022 14:05:00 GMT
Yet you were complaining about the 10 euro levy on final tickets a while back. I’d prefer additional funds to go towards coaching, all weather pitches across the county and ensuring the county team have best in class support. The players would still get the best of everything. You must have no faith in KCB at all. Yes I was giving out about the levy as it was enforced. I prefer to give of my own free will which I do quite alot actually. Now you say you d prefer the money went into coaching. Well the 10e levy was Not for coaching but to go towards team holiday. Kerry also recieved 80,000e from gaa towards holiday. Obviously you totally against the 10e levy too as it did nt go to training. You are making quite the leap there. Go back to worrying about the imaginary family of 6 with their season tickets and how they feel about the levy. |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 26, 2022 14:51:09 GMT
Yet you were complaining about the 10 euro levy on final tickets a while back. I’d prefer additional funds to go towards coaching, all weather pitches across the county and ensuring the county team have best in class support. Funnily enough I was gona come on and post something similar. The county boards money comes from us so if they fund it then it will be reflected in higher ticket costs, more fundraiser, etc On top of this, the county boards finances are a zero sum game. If money goes into this then it doesn’t go into something more important like player development |
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Post by orangerhyme on Nov 26, 2022 15:04:26 GMT
I think in the statement it's implied that they were hoping for Capital Sports Grant funding and other types of government funding.
This would be supplemented by fundraising efforts in the county and maybe abroad in the states and UK.
I don't think we should assume stadium redevelopment will cost Kerry football anything.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 26, 2022 15:24:54 GMT
I think in the statement it's implied that they were hoping for Capital Sports Grant funding and other types of government funding. This would be supplemented by fundraising efforts in the county and maybe abroad in the states and UK. I don't think we should assume stadium redevelopment will cost Kerry football anything. Fundraising events in the county are a cost as the money could be raised to go into other projects. If there’s government funding coming to Kerry then I would prefer to see it go into attracting 1/2 large multinationals to the area so as to entice more young people to remain in Kerry and set up families there. Overall that would be a much better result for the county than anything else so when I see Killarney vintners talking about progress - I’m very cognisant of the fact that they are viewing progress through the very narrow prism of their own pockets |
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 26, 2022 15:39:06 GMT
I think in the statement it's implied that they were hoping for Capital Sports Grant funding and other types of government funding. This would be supplemented by fundraising efforts in the county and maybe abroad in the states and UK. I don't think we should assume stadium redevelopment will cost Kerry football anything. I think there’s little doubt that Kerry clubs/patrons would eventually end up paying up at some juncture for the proposed project - €25 admission to Cork county final tells its own story! |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 26, 2022 15:55:00 GMT
I think in the statement it's implied that they were hoping for Capital Sports Grant funding and other types of government funding. This would be supplemented by fundraising efforts in the county and maybe abroad in the states and UK. I don't think we should assume stadium redevelopment will cost Kerry football anything. I think there’s little doubt that Kerry clubs/patrons would eventually end up paying up at some juncture for the proposed project - €25 admission to Cork county final tells its own story! It’s this lack of ability to join the dots that worries me. The money has to come from somewhere and that’ll be supporters pockets. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 26, 2022 16:03:12 GMT
No doubt the business plan when it lands will be full of all sort of optimistic assumptions about concerts and other such events.
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Post by orangerhyme on Nov 26, 2022 16:08:25 GMT
I think in the statement it's implied that they were hoping for Capital Sports Grant funding and other types of government funding. This would be supplemented by fundraising efforts in the county and maybe abroad in the states and UK. I don't think we should assume stadium redevelopment will cost Kerry football anything. Fundraising events in the county are a cost as the money could be raised to go into other projects. If there’s government funding coming to Kerry then I would prefer to see it go into attracting 1/2 large multinationals to the area so as to entice more young people to remain in Kerry and set up families there. Overall that would be a much better result for the county than anything else so when I see Killarney vintners talking about progress - I’m very cognisant of the fact that they are viewing progress through the very narrow prism of their own pockets I agree 100% about attracting multinationals. I've heard an economist before saying that Killarney should sell itself on "quality of life" to attract FDI. Also house prices are very cheap in Kerry outside the obvious areas. The new 3rd level education center in the old Pretty Polly factory is interesting. Also all the talk about wind turbines in Shannon Estuary |
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 26, 2022 16:29:59 GMT
I assume that this entity (which was set up 22 years ago) runs Fitzgerald Stadium. www.solocheck.ie/Irish-Company/Fitzgerald-Stadium-Committee-Company-Limited-By-Guarantee-329062Any idea who the 7 directors are? Also, who actually owns the land? According to an old interview on Terrace talk, it was bought in the 1930s for 950 pounds from a man named Courtney. I assume its the Hospital that owns it. If so, where does Kerry county board fit into the picture. Has KCC a long lease on it and if so how long is left. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Nov 26, 2022 20:01:36 GMT
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 26, 2022 20:35:15 GMT
As I’ve said already- let the people of Killarney build their events centre and if Kerry GAA ever have a need for it then they can lease it.
The Kerry county board shouldn’t put one cent in
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 26, 2022 22:13:56 GMT
As I’ve said already- let the people of Killarney build their events centre and if Kerry GAA ever have a need for it then they can lease it. The Kerry county board shouldn’t put one cent in Sure the people of Killarney already have an Events Centre. |
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Post by legendz on Nov 27, 2022 10:58:16 GMT
No way.ASP is a nice stadium and has its own history with county finals etc.The Government are giving some money to the refurbishment of Fitzgerald stadium so its not as bad as it sounds.If it is to be used for events other than Gaa surely local businesses should be asked to make donations too.I would agree with a few posters that the figure seems crazy but toilets in stand and terrace do need upgrade.I don't mind the stand persais.Even in croke park many of the seating is uncovered in the stands and open to the elements.I would like the stadium upgraded though and used again for munster hurling clashes like the late 80s as a neutral venue.Fitzgerald stadium is iconic and while I would like to see improvements done I don't want it to the detriment of ASP. If Fitzgerald stadium hosts more than 5 neutral hurling games in the next 15 years then I will give everyone on here €100. These “other” events are not coming to Killarney. This is not an attack on you but on the idea in general. No other sports will be played in Fitzgeralds stadium- rugby or soccer will definitely not as there are better options in cork & Limerick. Same the same for hurling & add thurles to that. There are enough venues in the province for Munster finals. If Tipperary and Cork have a home and away arrangement for Munster finals, PUC or Thurles are the standout venues for neutral venue finals. On the topic of rugby. Limerick support for Munster has dropped. If Munster Rugby were rebuilding Thomond Park again, they'd be investing in a stadium in Cork. If money is to be invested in Fitzgerald Stadium, is it the ideal location? Tralee is more accessible from north, south, east and west. In terms of design, one grand stand is required and probably a seated stand on the opposite side. The frequency of use then is an important factor. Hurling counties are guaranteed 2 home games in the championship. The football championship only guarantees 1 home game a year. |
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Post by horsebox77 on Nov 27, 2022 11:21:00 GMT
People touting neutral hurling games is baffling, holding hurling games in general in Killarney is rare at the best of times, apart from the Cork vs Tipperary back door match over a decade ago or a very rare National hurling/football double header hurling is practically never played in Killarney.
All Kerry Hurling home games are Tralee, if our own home games are not fixed for Fitzgerald’s stadium, why is the venue being touted a a viable neutral option?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 27, 2022 21:32:56 GMT
No they don't - Donegal has 3 and all host Championship games, Derry 3, Monaghan 2? .... Donegal play almost all their games in Ballyboofey Letterkenny's O'Donnell Park is a Prunty pitch and wasn't it great when games were spread around; that last Dublin vs Tyrone in Omagh was memorable, even the Dubs were delighted. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 27, 2022 22:12:37 GMT
As I’ve said already- let the people of Killarney build their events centre and if Kerry GAA ever have a need for it then they can lease it. The Kerry county board shouldn’t put one cent in Sure the people of Killarney already have an Events Centre. And then we objected to Cork having one on the grounds of 'illegal state aid', the same charge we as a nation stand accused of by the EU - some among us have yet to learn! |
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Post by glengael on Nov 29, 2022 14:59:00 GMT
The breakdown of the costs and income from the raffle of the house was interesting, it was in Kerry's Eye (at least, it may have been in other papers also) a few weeks ago. There was a lot of money spent to generate the E280,000 that was made from it.
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Post by peanuts on Nov 29, 2022 22:19:37 GMT
I was against €72M being spent on Fitzgerald Stadium until I saw today that Martin Breheny was against it. Now I’m all for it.
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Post by mossie on Nov 29, 2022 22:25:57 GMT
The breakdown of the costs and income from the raffle of the house was interesting, it was in Kerry's Eye (at least, it may have been in other papers also) a few weeks ago. There was a lot of money spent to generate the E280,000 that was made from it. It looks like the house draw wasnt quite the money spinner it was expected to be? was 280k the profit from it? not to be sneezed at but I wonder did they expect more? |
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Post by john4 on Nov 29, 2022 22:35:10 GMT
The breakdown of the costs and income from the raffle of the house was interesting, it was in Kerry's Eye (at least, it may have been in other papers also) a few weeks ago. There was a lot of money spent to generate the E280,000 that was made from it. It looks like the house draw wasnt quite the money spinner it was expected to be? was 280k the profit from it? not to be sneezed at but I wonder did they expect more? I think there was a mention in the report that they didn't sell as well as hoped as there was another house raffle on offer around the same time and tickets were cheaper and a certain percentage of the ticket cost went towards a deserving charity. Anyone who has embarked on club fundraising will know how vital timing is and the effect of outside factors. It's unfortunate that more money couldn't be raised but thems the risks involved in such a scheme. |
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Post by homerj on Nov 29, 2022 22:40:12 GMT
280k is still a great return being realistic.
cost of house. cost of running it plus back up prizes.
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Post by mossie on Nov 29, 2022 22:44:54 GMT
280k is still a great return being realistic. cost of house. cost of running it plus back up prizes. It is good return but I just wonder was there an expectation of a bigger return |
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 29, 2022 23:00:25 GMT
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Post by homerj on Nov 30, 2022 9:05:02 GMT
dont think there is any need to worry about casement when its part of Euro 28 bid and will be by and large paid for by UK Government accordingly.
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