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Post by homerj on Sept 19, 2022 8:30:17 GMT
fully agree Veteran BUT that drive within us all, is the reason why Kerry are top of the pile and we are always there or there abouts.
look at Tyrone and how they win and then disappear for example. as Seamus Moynihan once famously said "second best is never good enough down here"
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Post by southward on Sept 19, 2022 8:47:37 GMT
What about Kerry in 2023? While the monkey is off the back, will the manic hunger be still there. A bit of new blood will probably be needed. D.Moran will be a year older and Joe is probably gone for 2023 so midfield looks light. Maybe Graham could be released from corner back duties and go to midfield.Injuries to DC, SoS and one or two more could capsize the boat of course. Hopefully that wont happen. Graham played midfield for SK yesterday. Hard to know what to make of him there - didn't have any great influence tbh but then it didn't look like he was busting a gut either. Jury out at least. |
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Post by homerj on Sept 19, 2022 9:49:57 GMT
midfield certainly is the key area to work on next year. we were beaten there by Galway and lost our way around middle against Dublin.
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Post by horsebox77 on Sept 19, 2022 9:50:05 GMT
What about Kerry in 2023? While the monkey is off the back, will the manic hunger be still there. A bit of new blood will probably be needed. D.Moran will be a year older and Joe is probably gone for 2023 so midfield looks light. Maybe Graham could be released from corner back duties and go to midfield.Injuries to DC, SoS and one or two more could capsize the boat of course. Hopefully that wont happen. Graham played midfield for SK yesterday. Hard to know what to make of him there - didn't have any great influence tbh but then it didn't look like he was busting a gut either. Jury out at least. Ya, Graham had a good first half but laboured in second, he was ploughing a lone furrow at stages, some of SK tactics were baffling, esp. When chasing the game, big Matthew Sullivan was 8 inches above Sean T but no ball going in to him. That I just couldn't understand. But back to the question, I think Graham is better suited to corner or wing, although the returning Dan Donoghue and Casey may afford us chsnce to experiment. Ex minor Barry O'Mahoney is a rough diamond that may be worth a look at. |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Sept 19, 2022 10:13:26 GMT
midfield certainly is the key area to work on next year. we were beaten there by Galway and lost our way around middle against Dublin. I don’t think we were beaten there by Galway, my recollection is that Barry was the dominant midfielder and we won a greater share of primary possession. |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 19, 2022 11:41:08 GMT
Graham O Sullivan midfield? Where do people get theses ideas from? He's played at his intercounty football as a back, mostly in the full back line, and people want him midfield?
This is like when people, granted mostly on Radio Kerry, wanted David Moran or Tommy Walsh full back!
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Post by Deise Exile on Sept 19, 2022 11:50:05 GMT
What about Kerry in 2023? While the monkey is off the back, will the manic hunger be still there. A bit of new blood will probably be needed. D.Moran will be a year older and Joe is probably gone for 2023 so midfield looks light. Maybe Graham could be released from corner back duties and go to midfield. Injuries to DC, SoS and one or two more could capsize the boat of course. Hopefully that wont happen. [/quote Interesting developments with manion and Jack Flash. Should focus Kerry minds. Any chance Mark O'Connor might throw his lot in aka TK |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 19, 2022 12:00:58 GMT
Graham O Sullivan midfield? Where do people get theses ideas from? He's played at his intercounty football as a back, mostly in the full back line, and people want him midfield? This is like when people, granted mostly on Radio Kerry, wanted David Moran or Tommy Walsh full back! Imagine sending Sean Walsh to the fullback. Or Seamus Moynihan to fullback. Or God between us and all harm but someone once suggested sending John oKeeffe to fullback .....but here is the real mad one.... Donaghy to Fullforward. Tis mad what people suggest alright |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Sept 19, 2022 12:15:00 GMT
Graham played midfield for SK yesterday. Hard to know what to make of him there - didn't have any great influence tbh but then it didn't look like he was busting a gut either. Jury out at least. Ya, Graham had a good first half but laboured in second, he was ploughing a lone furrow at stages, some of SK tactics were baffling, esp. When chasing the game, big Matthew Sullivan was 8 inches above Sean T but no ball going in to him. That I just couldn't understand. But back to the question, I think Graham is better suited to corner or wing, although the returning Dan Donoghue and Casey may afford us chsnce to experiment. Ex minor Barry O'Mahoney is a rough diamond that may be worth a look at. I’ve always rated Barry Mahony. Is he showing inter county quality form for Feale Rangers? If he was to make the breakthrough I think it would be in the 3rd midfielder/wing forward role, he’s giving away too much in height for midfield. When it comes to the 2 midfield positions I think we’ll be looking at the Na Gaeil pair with David Moran coming from the bench if he stays on. After those 3 we could do with another option for depth. Joe O’Connor is a big loss, I think he would have really pushed for a starting position this year. Hopefully Okunbor can get injury free and be looked at in the McGrath cup at least. I read in the Kerry’s Eye this week that Mark O’Shea (Crokes) and Sean O’Brien (Beaufort) have both been contacted by Jack and given S&C programmes so they are firmly on his radar and might come into the equation. The only other player I can think of after that is Liam Kearney. I don’t see Graham O’Sullivan being a midfield option, if any back was to go to midfield I think it would be Mike Breen. How has David Shaw been performing for Crokes? I think he’s moved full time to midfield for them. |
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 19, 2022 12:20:14 GMT
Graham O Sullivan midfield? Where do people get theses ideas from? He's played at his intercounty football as a back, mostly in the full back line, and people want him midfield? This is like when people, granted mostly on Radio Kerry, wanted David Moran or Tommy Walsh full back! Imagine sending Sean Walsh to the fullback. Or Seamus Moynihan to fullback. Or God between us and all harm but someone once suggested sending John oKeeffe to fullback .....but here is the real mad one.... Donaghy to Fullforward. Tis mad what people suggest alright Huge difference between now and when John O Keeffe and Sean Walsh went from out thr feild to full back. John O Keeffe had also played most of his football as a back before that as well. Seamus Moynihan had played most of his football as a back as well. Someone also once thought it was a good idea to play Jack O Shea as a full back. |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 19, 2022 12:34:59 GMT
And there was i thinking Johnno played most of his football at midfield before that!
Spose you though moving Donaghy to FF was mad too.
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Post by hurlingman on Sept 19, 2022 12:45:37 GMT
And there was i thinking Johnno played most of his football at midfield before that! Spose you though moving Donaghy to FF was mad too. I think you'll find he played centre back. He even won an All-Ireland there... Again you're talking about something that happened almost 50 years ago. It's in no way the same as today. |
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Post by john4 on Sept 19, 2022 13:02:51 GMT
Tommy Griffin did well @ FB when moved there from MF
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Sept 19, 2022 13:10:53 GMT
Graham played midfield for SK yesterday. Hard to know what to make of him there - didn't have any great influence tbh but then it didn't look like he was busting a gut either. Jury out at least. Ya, Graham had a good first half but laboured in second, he was ploughing a lone furrow at stages, some of SK tactics were baffling, esp. When chasing the game, big Matthew Sullivan was 8 inches above Sean T but no ball going in to him. That I just couldn't understand. But back to the question, I think Graham is better suited to corner or wing, although the returning Dan Donoghue and Casey may afford us chsnce to experiment. Ex minor Barry O'Mahoney is a rough diamond that may be worth a look at. Don’t think he’s at the level or has the ability to get to the level unfortunately |
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Post by ciarraimick on Sept 19, 2022 13:21:48 GMT
And there was i thinking Johnno played most of his football at midfield before that! Spose you though moving Donaghy to FF was mad too. I think you'll find he played centre back. He even won an All-Ireland there... Again you're talking about something that happened almost 50 years ago. It's in no way the same as today. He did indeed win an all ireland centre back. With Kerry Johnno played a couple of years CB and a couple midfield but the majority full back. Johnno spent alot of his club career at midfield |
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Post by percentageplay on Sept 19, 2022 13:48:10 GMT
Ya, Graham had a good first half but laboured in second, he was ploughing a lone furrow at stages, some of SK tactics were baffling, esp. When chasing the game, big Matthew Sullivan was 8 inches above Sean T but no ball going in to him. That I just couldn't understand. But back to the question, I think Graham is better suited to corner or wing, although the returning Dan Donoghue and Casey may afford us chsnce to experiment. Ex minor Barry O'Mahoney is a rough diamond that may be worth a look at. I’ve always rated Barry Mahony. Is he showing inter county quality form for Feale Rangers? If he was to make the breakthrough I think it would be in the 3rd midfielder/wing forward role, he’s giving away too much in height for midfield. When it comes to the 2 midfield positions I think we’ll be looking at the Na Gaeil pair with David Moran coming from the bench if he stays on. After those 3 we could do with another option for depth. Joe O’Connor is a big loss, I think he would have really pushed for a starting position this year. Hopefully Okunbor can get injury free and be looked at in the McGrath cup at least. I read in the Kerry’s Eye this week that Mark O’Shea (Crokes) and Sean O’Brien (Beaufort) have both been contacted by Jack and given S&C programmes so they are firmly on his radar and might come into the equation. The only other player I can think of after that is Liam Kearney. I don’t see Graham O’Sullivan being a midfield option, if any back was to go to midfield I think it would be Mike Breen. How has David Shaw been performing for Crokes? I think he’s moved full time to midfield for them. Marc O'Shea has been deployed at FF by Crokes of late. Its not often crokes use a target man in attack. David Shaw has played much of his football at MF of late with some good fielding and scores taken but nothing as of yet to warrant interest from Kerry. I don't know if anyone here has seen many of the Crokes championship games but one player who has performed expectionally is Neil O'Shea at FB. A very natural FB, not the biggest but one that certainly has the smarts for it. He has been the real stand out for Crokes since the start of the club champ. |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2022 6:30:04 GMT
Dublin duo’s return can be good news for the Kingdom
Colm Keys
September 20 2022 02:30 AM
As a past master of regeneration himself, Jack O’Connor will surely have admired his counterpart Dessie Farrell’s success in creating the ground for Jack McCaffrey and Paul Mannion’s return to inter-county football in the months ahead.
O’Connor has always been loath to let a player go, much less drift away when there was potentially more to be extracted from them.
Mike McCarthy was his most celebrated renewal project, McCarthy’s mid-season 2009 return to fulfil a role as the team’s centre-back, rather than corner-back where he was routinely posted in an initial spell with Kerry that had ended three years earlier, was one of the sparks that transformed that particular season.
William Kirby, brought back into the fold in his first year in charge of Kerry, 2004, was another that worked out well.
In McCarthy’s case, O’Connor recognised the need for a composed figure at the heart of a defence that was somewhat chaotic in losing to Cork in a Munster replay earlier in the summer. Kirby was the perfect midfield outrider for Darragh Ó Sé in 1997 and again in 2004.
Mechanics
The return of Mannion and McCaffrey now, though, is as important to Dublin for the statement it makes as it is for the mechanics of what they will potentially bring to the game.
McCaffrey’s pace and effervescence and Mannion’s elegant movement and kicking will be a welcome sight for Dublin supporters but also for the game in general to have them back on the biggest stage.
They are two of the players of their generation and provided they can find their feet quickly, they’ll add so much.
The greater risk is perhaps attached to McCaffrey, given that by the start of next year’s league it will be three-and-a-half years since he last played a full match for Dublin, ironically the drawn All-Ireland final against Kerry in 2019 when he scored 1-3 from wing-back in an individual performance for the ages.
In between, he’s had half an All-Ireland final replay (replaced by Diarmuid Connolly at half-time due to injury) and a brief involvement in a league game against Tyrone the following spring.
But even if he was to lose a ‘yard’ of that scintillating speed that has framed his game, he’d still be among the quickest out there.
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Mannion did feature in Farrell’s first year, off the bench in the championship, and was pivotal on the night they won their sixth successive All-Ireland title in succession. But in the two years since, the absence of both players has cast something of a shadow over Dublin, not one that blotted out the light completely but which reached far enough to suggest that not everything could be right.
How could two players who had come through the development system under the very manager at the head of affairs now not commit to him and his team when his time came?
Of course, both McCaffrey and Mannion are independent-minded people with a broad range of interests that stretched way beyond football but some had trouble accepting that they had simply tired of the commitment and routine that the inter-county game requires.
Their return now removes that shadow and even if their powers of old are somewhat diminished and not at their 2017-2019 levels as they edge towards their 30th years, it still feels like it will be a much more ‘locked and loaded’ Dublin squad going into 2023 championship.
The absence of that veneer of completion will have inevitably rankled within the squad, which would inevitably have found it hard, at times, to move on in the knowledge that two of their best, and two good friends to many within, were away from it as they entered their prime years. A piece of them missing, essentially, especially those from the ‘class of 1993’.
Given their close ties to so many still in the squad, it’s hard to imagine that player persuasion wasn’t a factor in the return of both.
As good as it is for Dublin and the 2023 championship, there are also benefits for the current champions and the chasing pack too.
This potentially raises everyone’s game and an early guardrail for any slack that might be setting in with Kerry.
With their defensive parsimony throughout the year and wondrous magic of David Clifford, it is without doubt that they were the best team out there in 2022. Yet it took that kick from Seán O’Shea to avoid extra-time with a Dublin team that didn’t have Con O’Callaghan in this year’s All-Ireland semi-final.
Success
With O’Callaghan intact, the All-Ireland title race may well have taken a different course. We’ll never know and while it doesn’t detract much from Kerry’s outright success, it is still a point of curiosity.
A Kerry team in a much earlier stage of its development came close to derailing Dublin’s five-in-a-row bid in that drawn All-Ireland final in 2019 and was in lockstep with them in the replay until Eoin Murchan’s intervention – his goal immediately on the restart of the second half. And that Dublin team had Mannion, McCaffrey and O’Callaghan.
Inevitably, with a weight lifted from their own shoulders, Kerry will be better for it next year. But another potential meeting with Dublin now raises the stakes even more.
Rather than recoil from their return, Kerry and the rest of the immediate chasing pack will embrace Farrell’s reassembly of the old band again.
As much as ending their respective winless championship sequences against Dublin thrilled both Mayo and Kerry in back-to-back All-Ireland semi-finals, doing it against a team with two of its brightest talents back in harness would inevitably mean more and thus a greater prize is up for grabs in 2023.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2022 6:33:06 GMT
Conor McKeon
September 19 2022 09:30 PM
AT an AFL combine in DCU in 2013, Jack McCaffrey ran 20 metres in 2.8 seconds. The record was 2.78.
Everyone knew McCaffrey was lightning and his clocked time put a definitive measure on it.
But numbers alone couldn’t fully capture what made McCaffrey such a potent ball-carrier.
“My strength would be running with the ball,” McCaffrey once explained. “Paul Mannion would be quicker than I would be in terms of pure speed.”
From 2013 to ’15 and again from 2017 to ’19, McCaffrey’s uncanny ability to turn static play into a scoring opportunity with one gear change, to chase down an opposition break from 10 metres behind, made him perhaps the most exciting Gaelic footballer in Ireland.
At 28 (he turns 29 next month), it seems unlikely that that scorched-earth speed has deteriorated in any significant way.
In 2017, McCaffrey came back from an ruptured ACL, a competitive period of 267 days of inactivity, and returned for a Leinster semi-final against Longford looking, if anything, even quicker than before.
It should be emphasised here that by the time Dublin play again, McCaffrey will have been away from inter-county football for roughly the same span of time as Rory O’Carroll was between 2015 and ’19.
O’Carroll left for the southern hemisphere arguably the best full-back in the country. But spent two seasons, ’19 and 2020, on the periphery of the Dublin panel after his return.
There are no guarantees. Not even with players as accomplished as McCaffrey and Mannion. But what they might, with fitness and form allowing, bring to the Dublin panel next year will be intriguing.
Dublin’s concession rate hasn’t changed in any considerable way in the past two Sam Maguire-less years. What has changed – significantly – is their goal creation/scoring.
And then… boom, Dessie Farrell announced that Jack McCaffrey and Paul Mannion were back
Dublin scored just two in their four championship games in 2021. This year, outside of the avalanche against a wide-open Kildare, they hit the net in only three of their other four championship games.
Through two championship defeats to Mayo and Kerry, Dublin’s transition seemed deliberate to the point of being laboured.
Cormac Costello’s low-percentage goal against Kerry has been their only green flag in the All-Ireland series since they last won Sam Maguire.
In 2015, the season McCaffrey was named Footballer of the Year, Dublin scored 18 championship goals. McCaffrey was involved in nine of those.
In his six Dublin senior seasons, which can be broken into two phases, he scored 7-34 in league and championship. Notably prolific for a defender.
McCaffrey’s championship record is 4-17 from 39 games, an average of 0.75 points per game.
It’s well ahead of Tomás Ó Sé’s 0.5 points per game (3-35 in 88 championship appearances), but below another roughly comparable attacking defender, Lee Keegan, who averaged almost exactly a point a game with Mayo.
Likewise, Mannion’s contribution to the Dublin team is layered and even as an inside forward, simple scoring stats alone only reveal so much.
But they’re still worth comparing with the players who have played in the inside Dublin line in his absence.
In 2017, Mannion scored just under three points per game from play in the championship. That fell to under 2.5 in 2018, but rose to 4.5 in 2019.
In the championship games in which they have started since 2020; Paddy Small has averaged 1.2 points per game; Dean Rock is 1.5 (from play) and Cormac Costello has scored 2.9.
But it’s worth recalling that by the time Mannion left the inter-county arena in 2019, he had developed into one of Dublin’s best defenders.
Against Mayo in the All-Ireland semi-final, he had six successful tackles in a game in which he also scored 0-5 from play.
Twice against Tyrone the previous year; once in a Super 8 game in Omagh and again in the All-Ireland final, he made 90-yard retreats and successfully dispossessed an opposition player as they bore down on goal.
“I don’t want to be just a forward who can’t tackle or track back,” he once noted, “that’s the team ethos anyway, it’s not just me.”
There are many intangibles.
Mannion’s ball-winning (a key part in Dublin’s second-half overcoming of Mayo in the 2017 All-Ireland final), his free-taking from the right-hand side and his sheer presence, should take some of the opposition heat away from Con O’Callaghan.
Again, guarantees are few. Save for one miserable cameo in Omagh in February 2020, McCaffrey has been away from this level of football for more than three years.
Mannion has had a serious knee and recurring ankle injuries, setbacks that have blotted his exceptional club form since he last wore the Dublin jersey in a locked-down Croke Park in the depths of winter 2020.
No guarantees.
But if either’s output compares even roughly with how they performed before they left, Dublin will have found the stimulus the team need after a stable but ultimately unsuccessful 2022.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 20, 2022 11:26:29 GMT
Dublin duo’s return can be good news for the Kingdom Colm Keys September 20 2022 02:30 AM As a past master of regeneration himself, Jack O’Connor will surely have admired his counterpart Dessie Farrell’s success in creating the ground for Jack McCaffrey and Paul Mannion’s return to inter-county football in the months ahead. O’Connor has always been loath to let a player go, much less drift away when there was potentially more to be extracted from them. Mike McCarthy was his most celebrated renewal project, McCarthy’s mid-season 2009 return to fulfil a role as the team’s centre-back, rather than corner-back where he was routinely posted in an initial spell with Kerry that had ended three years earlier, was one of the sparks that transformed that particular season. William Kirby, brought back into the fold in his first year in charge of Kerry, 2004, was another that worked out well. In McCarthy’s case, O’Connor recognised the need for a composed figure at the heart of a defence that was somewhat chaotic in losing to Cork in a Munster replay earlier in the summer. Kirby was the perfect midfield outrider for Darragh Ó Sé in 1997 and again in 2004. Mechanics The return of Mannion and McCaffrey now, though, is as important to Dublin for the statement it makes as it is for the mechanics of what they will potentially bring to the game. McCaffrey’s pace and effervescence and Mannion’s elegant movement and kicking will be a welcome sight for Dublin supporters but also for the game in general to have them back on the biggest stage. They are two of the players of their generation and provided they can find their feet quickly, they’ll add so much. The greater risk is perhaps attached to McCaffrey, given that by the start of next year’s league it will be three-and-a-half years since he last played a full match for Dublin, ironically the drawn All-Ireland final against Kerry in 2019 when he scored 1-3 from wing-back in an individual performance for the ages. In between, he’s had half an All-Ireland final replay (replaced by Diarmuid Connolly at half-time due to injury) and a brief involvement in a league game against Tyrone the following spring. But even if he was to lose a ‘yard’ of that scintillating speed that has framed his game, he’d still be among the quickest out there. : Mannion did feature in Farrell’s first year, off the bench in the championship, and was pivotal on the night they won their sixth successive All-Ireland title in succession. But in the two years since, the absence of both players has cast something of a shadow over Dublin, not one that blotted out the light completely but which reached far enough to suggest that not everything could be right. How could two players who had come through the development system under the very manager at the head of affairs now not commit to him and his team when his time came? Of course, both McCaffrey and Mannion are independent-minded people with a broad range of interests that stretched way beyond football but some had trouble accepting that they had simply tired of the commitment and routine that the inter-county game requires. Their return now removes that shadow and even if their powers of old are somewhat diminished and not at their 2017-2019 levels as they edge towards their 30th years, it still feels like it will be a much more ‘locked and loaded’ Dublin squad going into 2023 championship. The absence of that veneer of completion will have inevitably rankled within the squad, which would inevitably have found it hard, at times, to move on in the knowledge that two of their best, and two good friends to many within, were away from it as they entered their prime years. A piece of them missing, essentially, especially those from the ‘class of 1993’. Given their close ties to so many still in the squad, it’s hard to imagine that player persuasion wasn’t a factor in the return of both. As good as it is for Dublin and the 2023 championship, there are also benefits for the current champions and the chasing pack too. This potentially raises everyone’s game and an early guardrail for any slack that might be setting in with Kerry. With their defensive parsimony throughout the year and wondrous magic of David Clifford, it is without doubt that they were the best team out there in 2022. Yet it took that kick from Seán O’Shea to avoid extra-time with a Dublin team that didn’t have Con O’Callaghan in this year’s All-Ireland semi-final. Success With O’Callaghan intact, the All-Ireland title race may well have taken a different course. We’ll never know and while it doesn’t detract much from Kerry’s outright success, it is still a point of curiosity. A Kerry team in a much earlier stage of its development came close to derailing Dublin’s five-in-a-row bid in that drawn All-Ireland final in 2019 and was in lockstep with them in the replay until Eoin Murchan’s intervention – his goal immediately on the restart of the second half. And that Dublin team had Mannion, McCaffrey and O’Callaghan. Inevitably, with a weight lifted from their own shoulders, Kerry will be better for it next year. But another potential meeting with Dublin now raises the stakes even more. Rather than recoil from their return, Kerry and the rest of the immediate chasing pack will embrace Farrell’s reassembly of the old band again. As much as ending their respective winless championship sequences against Dublin thrilled both Mayo and Kerry in back-to-back All-Ireland semi-finals, doing it against a team with two of its brightest talents back in harness would inevitably mean more and thus a greater prize is up for grabs in 2023. If we take Colm's logic to, well it's logical conclusion, raising the bar increases your chance of scaling it and the higher you raise it the greater the chance again. So hell's bells, if the Dubs put out a team of u6s nobody would beat them! Colm, Dublin will be better and harder to beat with those 2/3 star performers and we will have to improve to compete - have we got that scope to go up that few notches is the question and of course nobody knows how much we have to improve. I think we have the edge on the sideline but that isn't as significant with mature panels, as might otherwise be the case. Still added to the fact that there is potentially 10 teams who could do it, God only knows who will be playing who and at what stage. And rest assured the other 8 teams are delighted to hear latchicos like myself talking as if it was down to the pair of us - what a tonic to rouse a dressing room as you are engineering how to dethrone the lacthicos who thought they had just to show their jersey to lift Samuel! |
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 20, 2022 13:23:07 GMT
Good post bally
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Post by ciarraimick on Sept 20, 2022 14:25:54 GMT
This is my own personal opinion on the Kerry v Dublin championship games from 2011 to 22.I know many will disagree but here goes. It is my belief that Kerry only deserved to win 2 of those matches. That was 2011 2022.I believe the gaa wanted a Dublin win in 2011 and we were better team but ref did us no favours whatsoever aiding a Dubs win. Whatever about Cluxton s free or other dodgy decisions there was a blatant double hop by Kev Mac 40 yards out straight in front of Dublin posts. An easy free for Bryan Sheehan ignored. Kerry better team. In 2013 it was classic and Kerry could have won but Dúin better team and outscored us by 7 points. 2015 Dublin were far better than us but maybe we could have got a late penalty or Killian Young s error but it would have been an injustice. 2016 another exciting game and again unlucky with a late ref call for an equaliser but again Dubs outscored us well and better team. 2019 a game we could have won first day but it reminded me a bit of 2022 semi in that a little error from Dublin let Tommy Walsh set up Killian for a goal that gave Kerry Oxygen and had our chances but replay Dubs a little better. 2022 we were far better than Dublin and Dubs like us in 2019 got a goal from a mistake that gave them oxygen and the crowd drove them on to make a comeback to draw before Seanie s massive free. Kerry were much better and deserved to win by more. Dublin will be stronger next year and still a young enough team but I firmly believe that we still have a better team now and still should have the upper hand. Dubs while still excellent are Not as good as 18 or 19 and we def a better team since 2019.With the pressure off and our defense more solid I expect more scoring from our forward line next year. As Paddy Tally said he s know for defense but likes to attack. Next year will be tough but no reason why Kerry can't retain Sam and we might not even meet Dublin as Tyrone and Mayo would love a cut off them too.
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 6, 2022 20:11:00 GMT
I see Eoghan O Donnell has gone back to the Dublin hurlers so maybe Con O Callaghan has a chance of staying injury free next year
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Post by ciarraimick on Oct 6, 2022 21:10:48 GMT
I see Eoghan O Donnell has gone back to the Dublin hurlers so maybe Con O Callaghan has a chance of staying injury free next year 😁😁Ó Donnell played with hurlers last year too and then went with the footballers. He is a serious talent and very strong as a midfielder or ff in football. A loss to Dub footballers if he concentrates on hurling. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 6, 2022 23:38:22 GMT
He was brought in by Farrell. He got a limited amount of game time with the footballers. His biggest contribution was to break up Con
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Oct 7, 2022 7:47:21 GMT
He was brought in by Farrell. He got a limited amount of game time with the footballers. His biggest contribution was to break up Con And for that we thank him |
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