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Post by Mickmack on Mar 29, 2022 13:36:44 GMT
How much are stand tickets for sunday.
Also, how much are Hill 16 tickets. The weather is looking ok for Sunday at the moment
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 29, 2022 14:10:31 GMT
25 euro is very reasonable
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Post by veteran on Mar 29, 2022 14:49:19 GMT
Of course midfield play is not all about high fielding . An urgency and willingness to contest the breaking ball is probably more important in the modern game. Still if you can pluck the occasional high it means you are conserving energy , as opposed to working out a short kickout , and of course you are rewarded with a free kick . Now sometimes when a mark is won at midfield the player wants to put jam on the ball before delivering it in which means runs being made inside come to nought. Young Canavan won a ball at midfield the last day, quick look up , beautiful long delivery in to Darren McCurry, no time for defenders to cover spaces - goal. Am I right in saying Tyrone got two goals in the final last year ‘s final courtesy of clean wins at midfield, direct ball in etc. Too simple I suppose.
Wining breaking ball is fine of course but is there anything more galling than witnessing a Kerry player breaking it down to an opponent.
You don’t have to be a towering figure to win a high ball, witness Willie Bryan of Offaly and Teddy McCarthy of later years. It am not sure what their secret was . A certain spring in their step? Long arms? But there is one thing for certain you will never field a high ball over an opponent unless you position yourself properly and anticipate the trajectory of the ball. There were a few instances in the Mayo game where Aiden O’Shea collected high ones uncontested. Regardless of your prowess in the air , your opponent should not get away with that.
As I said , I accept that winning the breaking ball is of paramount importance but there were several occasions during the recent NFL when our inability to some high balls at midfield made life unnecessarily difficult for us.
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Post by thehermit on Mar 29, 2022 14:56:58 GMT
Hearing 7 or 8 of Mayo's usual crew could be out for Sunday including Cillian O'Connor obviously.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 29, 2022 15:50:00 GMT
Darragh O Sé was a bare six foot.
A player from Annascaul had an enormous leap and he was only about 5' 8" or 9".
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Post by taggert on Mar 29, 2022 16:13:19 GMT
Of course midfield play is not all about high fielding . An urgency and willingness to contest the breaking ball is probably more important in the modern game. Still if you can pluck the occasional high it means you are conserving energy , as opposed to working out a short kickout , and of course you are rewarded with a free kick . Now sometimes when a mark is won at midfield the player wants to put jam on the ball before delivering it in which means runs being made inside come to nought. Young Canavan won a ball at midfield the last day, quick look up , beautiful long delivery in to Darren McCurry, no time for defenders to cover spaces - goal. Am I right in saying Tyrone got two goals in the final last year ‘s final courtesy of clean wins at midfield, direct ball in etc. Too simple I suppose. Wining breaking ball is fine of course but is there anything more galling than witnessing a Kerry player breaking it down to an opponent. You don’t have to be a towering figure to win a high ball, witness Willie Bryan of Offaly and Teddy McCarthy of later years. It am not sure what their secret was . A certain spring in their step? Long arms? But there is one thing for certain you will never field a high ball over an opponent unless you position yourself properly and anticipate the trajectory of the ball. There were a few instances in the Mayo game where Aiden O’Shea collected high ones uncontested. Regardless of your prowess in the air , your opponent should not get away with that. As I said , I accept that winning the breaking ball is of paramount importance but there were several occasions during the recent NFL when our inability to some high balls at midfield made life unnecessarily difficult for us. How Canavan, one of the smallest men on the field, won that ball and got the quick ball away, baffled me. Was it brilliance by the keeper in terms of accuracy, or carelessness by Kerry in allowing it to happen without "surrounding" him or was it simply pot luck? It was the key score in the game. A brilliant pass by Canavan it must be said. I think our half forward line misfired badly against Tyrone in the last 2 matches - their half back line is their launch pad. Have to hammer that hammer the next time. Brilliant opportunity Sunday though for Kerry to lay down a marker. And I'll be there to cheer on.... |
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 29, 2022 18:06:31 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 29, 2022 18:08:15 GMT
I doubt very much that Neil Morgan was aiming for Canavans midriff.
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Post by Moderator on Mar 29, 2022 18:33:59 GMT
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Post by jackiel on Mar 29, 2022 19:33:39 GMT
How much are stand tickets for sunday. Also, how much are Hill 16 tickets. The weather is looking ok for Sunday at the moment Mick, my email from the stewards says the expected attendance is 30k,lower tier only on sale with Upper Cusack on standby. |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 29, 2022 19:36:03 GMT
I doubt very much that Neil Morgan was aiming for Canavans midriff. It was in the right general direction, take your chances after that and maybe they had luck but if you don't do the right things you can't be lucky. It was by any standards an exceptional run of fluent play - I don't mean to knock our boys but we are well capable of all that and our day will come if can get it together. I just hope we can sort out GK and MF, either by mastering them or mitigating any weaknesses; and bearing in mind that kick-outs is all down to the transmitter, the receivers need to give him options and management need to mentor them. Ah of course they are but I'd love to see it working. |
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 29, 2022 20:56:42 GMT
It was the exquisite ball from Canavan that was remarkable and McCurrys fetch,turn and finish was sublime.
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Post by kerryboyo on Mar 29, 2022 21:06:27 GMT
My 24 for the game Sunday
1 shane ryan
2 Dylan casey
3 jason foley
4 Tom o sullivan
5 Brian begly
6 tadgh morely
7 Gavin white
8 joe o connor
9 diarmuid o connor
10 Stephan O Brien
11 Paudie clifford
12 Adrian spillane
13 Tony brosnan
14 David clifford
15 Paul Geaney
16 shane murphy
17 Graham o sullivan
18 tadgh morely
19 David Moran if available
20 jack barey
21 jack savage
22 Dara moynihan
23 killian Spillane
24 Greg horan
Casey deserves another go … big test for him
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Post by taggert on Mar 29, 2022 21:14:13 GMT
Agree with that lineup except for one.
Dara Moynihan an absolute banker to start if fit. Would play 2 inside forwards, Tony over Paul.
Adrian, Paudie, Dara
Tony, David, Stephen
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 29, 2022 21:29:32 GMT
If O'Donoghue is not fit, Casey will play. If Dan is fit he will play.
Likewise Sean O'Shea has to play if fit, otherwise it will be Savage.
Adrian, Paudie and Dara the obvious ones that have to start.
Tony, David and Stephen to start, with Paul and Killian to come on.
Though Mayo tend to finish with their strongest team, rather than start with it.
Gavin White could be huge as we lacked a player of his ability and physique in the league game.Diarmuid and Jack to start in midfield, Joe to come on in the second half.
This will definitely be a game of using all subs and very different styles of play.
Mayo have Ryan O'Donoghue, but no superstar forwards.
Even now they rely on their backs to come up and score. Keeping Mullins and Ruane occupied will be as important as it will be to score.
As always Mayo love to work the ball up the field, Kerry were very successful when going with quick kick passes. Having someone like Dara or Paudie kicking or carrying it to the full forwards will be key.
Croke Park on a sunny day will suit Kerry, a very fast team with lots of talent. Mayo will find it harder to find scores, but have enough physicality and smarts to keep us quiet.
So many tactical battles ahead of this already and it will all depend on who can win those battles.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 29, 2022 21:30:34 GMT
My 24 for the game Sunday 1 shane ryan 2 Dylan casey 3 jason foley 4 Tom o sullivan 5 Brian begly 6 tadgh morely 7 Gavin white 8 joe o connor 9 diarmuid o connor 10 Stephan O Brien 11 Paudie clifford 12 Adrian spillane 13 Tony brosnan 14 David clifford 15 Paul Geaney 16 shane murphy 17 Graham o sullivan 18 tadgh morely 19 David Moran if available 20 jack barey 21 jack savage 22 Dara moynihan 23 killian Spillane 24 Greg horan Casey deserves another go … big test for him Agree with the exception of Moynihan, if fit I think he is nailed on in my opinion. With Stephen facing Geaney for the one remaining spot. I think and agree that Dylan will be afforded the chance and will retain his place but will be under increasing pressure from Graham, who has really blossomed under his club mate direction. Mayo are missing four or five starters but are physically imposing around the eight. It has the making of a very good game. What is most pleasing is the opportunity to win early silverware in Croker but by missing our main forty yard man, we are doing so while still keeping our powder dry. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 21:43:03 GMT
My 24 for the game Sunday 1 shane ryan 2 Dylan casey 3 jason foley 4 Tom o sullivan 5 Brian begly 6 tadgh morely 7 Gavin white 8 joe o connor 9 diarmuid o connor 10 Stephan O Brien 11 Paudie clifford 12 Adrian spillane 13 Tony brosnan 14 David clifford 15 Paul Geaney 16 shane murphy 17 Graham o sullivan 18 tadgh morely 19 David Moran if available 20 jack barey 21 jack savage 22 Dara moynihan 23 killian Spillane 24 Greg horan Casey deserves another go … big test for him Agree with the exception of Moynihan, if fit I think he is nailed on in my opinion. With Stephen facing Geaney for the one remaining spot. I think and agree that Dylan will be afforded the chance and will retain his place but will be under increasing pressure from Graham, who has really blossomed under his club mate direction. Mayo are missing four or five starters but are physically imposing around the eight. It has the making of a very good game. What is most pleasing is the opportunity to win early silverware in Croker but by missing our main forty yard man, we are doing so while still keeping our powder dry. Sunday should tell us a lot about our midfield in fairness, I hope Seánie Shea is back. |
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 29, 2022 22:35:41 GMT
They are very confident up here that they'll take us on Sunday. They're in good spirits about it. Says 84% of them in a recent questionnaire.
I'm not even getting involved. Say nothing, let the game do the talking to them.
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 29, 2022 23:18:03 GMT
I think it's very important for us to win next Sunday. We have nt won a national final in 5 years. I know we shared league last year and were league winners in 2020 but there was no final. National silverware would take a bit of pressure off us as many neutrals question Kerry s belly for the big battles. It should be tight but here s hoping. Absolutely Ciarraimick. Spot on! |
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Post by MeathExile on Mar 29, 2022 23:34:21 GMT
Thankfully, defense has improved immensely. Goalie for me is Ryan - all day long, and that was long before last Sunday. I just get very nervous when I see GAA goalies punching a ball - much too risky compared to soccer as there are more bodies around the goalmouth ready to collect, and they can use hands, rather than just their feet. Perhaps Diarmuid could advise Shane M on this....
Diarmuid and Jack have done reasonably well in mid-field - both have their strengths and weaknesses. Jack is a destroyer in chief - I think very suitable for the likes of Fenton - but I think he has to be given a definitive man-marking role. Perhaps he should take up Ruane on Sunday with that in mind. I often wonder what he would be like centre-back, but thats another story, as thankfully, Tadgh has sorted that one out.
I think Joe O Connor is made for Croke park - his speed and box-to-box ability will burn most midfielders, and he has an eye for a score, and is an intelligent player on the ball. Next Sunday, I would start him with either Jack. If when/David returns, I would play either him or Diarmuid as 12, with Adrian as 10. We then have a really physical half-forward line (with Seanie as centre) with plenty of football ability.
Looking forward to Sunday - first game since Dubs match that I can attend due to other Sunday commitments and being exiled......
Our glass is more than half-full lads - Id say more like 90% ........
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Post by bishop on Mar 29, 2022 23:53:15 GMT
Lads after watching the game yesterday Shane Ryan is our undisputed number 1 goalie. We can't have a goalie that punches the ball instead of catching it, this is not soccer where a player might need a touch or 2 to control the ball before having a shot, this is gaelic football where players can use their hand and bang its a goal. This is definitely a keally tactic. I really don't understand the punching when the danger is minimal. Fair enough punch if there are alot of bodies in and around the square and the odds of a clean catch are reduced. I don't think you can be as black and white saying Ryan is the "undisputed" number 1 as I don't think he has really been tested either, he has perhaps marginally moved ahead of Murphy but we are not privy to all th stats. I always thought that Murphy was the better option given his kick out ability. McStay showed a clip on Sunday night of a "poor kick out", it was an attempt to place the ball into Tonys arms as he ran at the Tyrone goal which was intercepted by Tyrone. Had it come off it would have been a great kick and it is a type of kick out Crokes use regularly hitting Burns and White on the run. Risk/reward comes to mind. Harder to pull off such moves in the intercounty game. Kerry are struggling with kickouts which most likely stems from GK rotation, opposition press, a lack of fielding ability and from what I can see lack of an actual plan. I believe kick out strategy is more of a pressing issue than the GK himself. Super post on the kickout issues percentageplay. How many times have we stood in the Park watching murphy in county championship games ping out kickouts to the terrace side from the dressing room end, picking out Brian Looney on the run (normally after running from the opposite side of the field to get in to space). The one to Tony Brosnan was a replica kick the last day, and only finger tips from opening up the Tyrone backline. He has more kickouts in his armoury than Ryan, granted they're not coming off for him at the moment. But like you said, how many of these are down to the outfield issues like the press etc. Ryan the more commanding presence certainly, but Murphy still a better shotstopper/kickout for me. Also, the 1st half the last day, the breeze was blowing diagonally into the terrace corner on the dressing room end meaning Murphy was kicking across the breeze. It changed to the scoreboard end in the 2nd half, meaning Murphy was again kicking in to the breeze. Maybe we need to cut him a bit of slack on the kickouts (no excuse for punching that ball all alone granted, with Casey shepharding the forward from jumping) |
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Post by john4 on Mar 29, 2022 23:55:37 GMT
I think it's very important for us to win next Sunday. We have nt won a national final in 5 years. I know we shared league last year and were league winners in 2020 but there was no final. National silverware would take a bit of pressure off us as many neutrals question Kerry s belly for the big battles. It should be tight but here s hoping. I agree with this. It is important to win national titles. Whenever the opportunity presents itself you'd have to prepare probably and really go for it. I still think that unfortunately we're still missing something. Tony Brosnan has brought a little bit of devilment to the forwards in fairness, that bit of the ability to do the unexpected. But in the backs, and midfield also, I feel that we're still a bit short on being the type of streetwise pr**k you really need to be to get over the line in big games. Might come in championship. |
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Post by tonydorigo on Mar 30, 2022 7:26:45 GMT
Darragh O Sé was a bare six foot. A player from Annascaul had an enormous leap and he was only about 5' 8" or 9". Serious leap is right. Seen it up close and it was a thing of beauty! |
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Post by Corner Back on Mar 30, 2022 8:36:04 GMT
Noel Mooney from Cavan is the ref for Kerry v Mayo.
On a side note, Brendan Griffin is ref for Division 3 final between Limerick and Louth
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 30, 2022 9:38:02 GMT
Noel Mooney from Cavan is the ref for Kerry v Mayo. On a side note, Brendan Griffin is ref for Division 3 final between Limerick and Louth Ya, heard that at training last night, delighted for Brendan, very good referee, very fair and always brings the same umpires of which one is also a referee |
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Post by buck02 on Mar 30, 2022 10:31:14 GMT
Finding the correct balance for our midfield pairing and the wing forward midfielder will be key to our chances this year. It will likely depend on opposition later in the year also.
Moran/Barry/DOC
Moran/DOC/Spillane
DOC/Barry/Spillane
Joe/Barry/DOC
DOC/Joe/Spillane
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 10:43:19 GMT
Noel Mooney from Cavan is the ref for Kerry v Mayo. On a side note, Brendan Griffin is ref for Division 3 final between Limerick and Louth what's noel Mooney like as a reff? |
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 30, 2022 10:56:17 GMT
Noel Mooney from Cavan is the ref for Kerry v Mayo. On a side note, Brendan Griffin is ref for Division 3 final between Limerick and Louth what's noel Mooney like as a reff? Think he had the Dublin Monaghan game on Sunday and they weren't impressed. But let's see how he gets on in CP. |
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 30, 2022 11:52:20 GMT
what's noel Mooney like as a reff? Think he had the Dublin Monaghan game on Sunday and they weren't impressed. But let's see how he gets on in CP. I think the GAA have made a mistake here.. Kerry v Mayo is such a grudge match at this stage, the game needs a no nonsense ref like David Gough or someone of that quality... this isn't a game to be experimenting with refs. We had Brendan Cawley, another inexperienced ref, for the game in Tralee and he had lost control of that game by the end. |
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Post by kerryboyo on Mar 30, 2022 11:56:24 GMT
Agree with that lineup except for one. Dara Moynihan an absolute banker to start if fit. Would play 2 inside forwards, Tony over Paul. Adrian, Paudie, Dara Tony, David, Stephen yah I had moynihan out not sure if he is fit or not still a great sub if he’s not 70 minute match fit . |
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