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Post by exiled on Mar 7, 2022 22:18:52 GMT
I have to laugh at all the comments here re supporters of different counties being bad losers bad winners or just bad. Maybe sometimes the hardest place to look is in the mirror. A lot of us are no angel's either. I remember reading the great Con Houlihan once on the Kerry supporters think they have God given right to win and so they don't respect the opposition or other supporters. Well I can tell you that after over 30 years in Mayo they love their football just as much as us. I've worked all over and converse with supporters from many counties and have met very few bad REAL supporters. Every county has it's rotten eggs.. I've been attacked in Dublin after matches back in 70s 80s and was lucky not to end up in hospital but they were gurriers and not real Dub supporters who I always found to be a great craic.Having travelled a lot I can tell you that basically people are very similar.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 7, 2022 22:48:54 GMT
I have to laugh at all the comments here re supporters of different counties being bad losers bad winners or just bad. Maybe sometimes the hardest place to look is in the mirror. A lot of us are no angel's either. I remember reading the great Con Houlihan once on the Kerry supporters think they have God given right to win and so they don't respect the opposition or other supporters. Well I can tell you that after over 30 years in Mayo they love their football just as much as us. I've worked all over and converse with supporters from many counties and have met very few bad REAL supporters. Every county has it's rotten eggs.. I've been attacked in Dublin after matches back in 70s 80s and was lucky not to end up in hospital but they were gurriers and not real Dub supporters who I always found to be a great craic.Having travelled a lot I can tell you that basically people are very similar. Well said
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 7, 2022 23:04:15 GMT
I have to laugh at all the comments here re supporters of different counties being bad losers bad winners or just bad. Maybe sometimes the hardest place to look is in the mirror. A lot of us are no angel's either. I remember reading the great Con Houlihan once on the Kerry supporters think they have God given right to win and so they don't respect the opposition or other supporters. Well I can tell you that after over 30 years in Mayo they love their football just as much as us. I've worked all over and converse with supporters from many counties and have met very few bad REAL supporters. Every county has it's rotten eggs.. I've been attacked in Dublin after matches back in 70s 80s and was lucky not to end up in hospital but they were gurriers and not real Dub supporters who I always found to be a great craic.Having travelled a lot I can tell you that basically people are very similar. Well said. I endorse that fully. We are all learning and being tolerant until the day we die. Different strokes for different folks.
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Post by mossie on Mar 7, 2022 23:04:25 GMT
I have to laugh at all the comments here re supporters of different counties being bad losers bad winners or just bad. Maybe sometimes the hardest place to look is in the mirror. A lot of us are no angel's either. I remember reading the great Con Houlihan once on the Kerry supporters think they have God given right to win and so they don't respect the opposition or other supporters. Well I can tell you that after over 30 years in Mayo they love their football just as much as us. I've worked all over and converse with supporters from many counties and have met very few bad REAL supporters. Every county has it's rotten eggs.. I've been attacked in Dublin after matches back in 70s 80s and was lucky not to end up in hospital but they were gurriers and not real Dub supporters who I always found to be a great craic.Having travelled a lot I can tell you that basically people are very similar. well said, some of the commentary on Mayo\Mayo supporters is a bit ott on this thread I was cheering for Mayo in the final last year and is we dont lift Sam in 2022 , I hope Mayo do
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Post by taggert on Mar 7, 2022 23:32:32 GMT
Hope to see Dylan and Tony start again Saturday night as we need plenty options we can trust for the bigger games later in the year.
Any update on White, Moran, Joe O'C et al and how far they are from returning?
Anyway, hope we learn plenty against Mayo and if that means losing in the process, so be it.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 8, 2022 10:30:00 GMT
Hope to see Dylan and Tony start again Saturday night as we need plenty options we can trust for the bigger games later in the year. Any update on White, Moran, Joe O'C et al and how far they are from returning? Anyway, hope we learn plenty against Mayo and if that means losing in the process, so be it. Just listening to JOD podcast and he said Dan O'Donoghue calf and Paul Murphy hammer look like they are out. I'd imagine casey will start in that case.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 8, 2022 10:37:20 GMT
Hopefully short term injuries. Any word on Gavin White? He's still out too Mick according according to podcast. Hopefully they are short term as Dan looks like the find of the year for us.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 8, 2022 10:47:03 GMT
Hope to see Dylan and Tony start again Saturday night as we need plenty options we can trust for the bigger games later in the year. Any update on White, Moran, Joe O'C et al and how far they are from returning? Anyway, hope we learn plenty against Mayo and if that means losing in the process, so be it. Just listening to JOD podcast and he said Dan O'Donoghue calf and Paul Murphy hammer look like they are out. I'd imagine casey will start in that case. Have you link to Podcast?
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 8, 2022 11:36:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2022 13:25:02 GMT
I'd be happy enough to see Dylan against Mayo and hopefully Dan will be OK for Armagh.
And iv got a feeling that Tony B will have a great game against Mayo.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 8, 2022 13:56:00 GMT
Yes I'd like to see Dylan in against Mayo.
Tralee lad playing at home so that should help him.
He got booked early last week so he needs to learn from that.
He looked very unimpressed at HT last week so hopefully he takes that learning and has a good game on Sat.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 8, 2022 15:09:46 GMT
I suspect, there will be maybe one but possibly no changes from the team that started up in Inniskeen.
I envisage; Ryan, Casey, Foley, Tom Sull, Crowley, Morley, O’Beagloich, Barry, O’Connor, Spillane, Seanie, Moynihan, DC, Geaney and Paudie. The only change may be Geaney/Brosnan/Killian.
Would like to see more game time for Graham O’Sullivan. In the absence of Murphy, Dan O’Donoghue, White and Breen, if Graham isn’t getting a look in at this juncture, well then I suspect his days may be numbered.
Midfield back up is still a worry for me…
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 8, 2022 15:10:10 GMT
Thanks RoyalKerryFan, appreciate it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2022 16:21:04 GMT
Yes I'd like to see Dylan in against Mayo. Tralee lad playing at home so that should help him. He got booked early last week so he needs to learn from that. He looked very unimpressed at HT last week so hopefully he takes that learning and has a good game on Sat. I'd say Dylan is young and a bit eager to lay down a marker, he'll earn his salt on Saturday night if he gets the nod, it's a great test in fairness.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2022 16:23:23 GMT
I suspect, there will be maybe one but possibly no changes from the team that started up in Inniskeen. I envisage; Ryan, Casey, Foley, Tom Sull, Crowley, Morley, O’Beagloich, Barry, O’Connor, Spillane, Seanie, Moynihan, DC, Geaney and Paudie. The only change may be Geaney/Brosnan/Killian. Would like to see more game time for Graham O’Sullivan. In the absence of Murphy, Dan O’Donoghue, White and Breen, if Graham isn’t getting a look in at this juncture, well then I suspect his days may be numbered. Midfield back up is still a worry for me… horse I'd go with starting Tony B and save Geaney for the second half, it would be great to see a few options appear for midfield as back up for Barry and O'connor.
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 8, 2022 16:24:04 GMT
Oh look on the supporters thing I agree 100%.We are as bad as everyon and maybe worse. I mean we turned against Tyrone in the noughties(how dare they beat us) they using false methods. Then it's the Dubs we hate Let's look in the mirror. We no angels either. Oh Tyone were nasty well so we're we. We won many a game by nasty elements. I like yo look at things evenly and yes I admit Kerry won games too by foul means. Down through the years we'd have a better reputation than most as being generally nice supporters, not as much in recent years perhaps. Maybe in Con Houlihan's time and words way back, but on my experiences, I would definitely not agree with his words, God be good to his soul. but growing up in the 80's and 90's and going to Kerry games a lot, most definitely not. If anything, we were way too quiet and hopelessly outnumbered at games.
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Post by dano on Mar 8, 2022 18:16:56 GMT
I've been to 10 All Ireland Finals involving Kerry and I can't ever remember a one where we weren't the least vocal supporters. A Munster Final in Killarney V Cork is maybe the one occasion when we up the tempo. Despite all that, Kerry have never suffered from not having a bandwagon of fair weather followers. They have 37 titles to show for their efforts. That's all that matters. In fairness to Mayo, they have a right to be insufferable and angry at winners. It's a knee jerk reaction of the silverware deprived to be like that. We'd be exactly the same if the shoe was on the other foot. Con was a man of the people, saw the good in everyone and, more interestingly, in all nationalities. There was no prouder a Kerryman ever and it would have almost insulted him to see one of his own being nasty to anyone. The World needs a lot more Cons. Fogra: " He Had A Deep Kerry Accent, You Could Hear The Turf In It!" ( An Irish Times journalist's tribute to Con)
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 8, 2022 18:34:30 GMT
Oh look on the supporters thing I agree 100%.We are as bad as everyon and maybe worse. I mean we turned against Tyrone in the noughties(how dare they beat us) they using false methods. Then it's the Dubs we hate Let's look in the mirror. We no angels either. Oh Tyone were nasty well so we're we. We won many a game by nasty elements. I like yo look at things evenly and yes I admit Kerry won games too by foul means. Down through the years we'd have a better reputation than most as being generally nice supporters, not as much in recent years perhaps. Maybe in Con Houlihan's time and words way back, but on my experiences, I would definitely not agree with his words, God be good to his soul. but growing up in the 80's and 90's and going to Kerry games a lot, most definitely not. If anything, we were way too quiet and hopelessly outnumbered at games. Not known as particularly nice to our own #animals
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 8, 2022 18:46:12 GMT
I just left a wee condolence on RIP.ie re the late Paul Shefflin and I expressed sympathy, if unofficially, on this Forum's behalf. I don't know the etiquette, even if any exists, and I am certainly not portraying myself as an official representative in any way, just doing what my heart is telling me.
Part of me recalls a previous experience where someone I was at odds with over something insignificant, well in fact it was here in Donegal and, yes, it was Donaghy's goal that I scored again after a few of an evening in the local and the chest was out, only to be told politely where to shove my size 5 by the noble gent who passed away suddenly some time after.
Though I didn't know him personally I attended his funeral locally and having explained my experience to a stranger, I was ushered over to tell his grieving mother. Now I am not being a hero here but she got a right fit of the giggles, as what I was telling her summed up her beloved son, yes - he liked a chat, aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile, you got it!! If it only gave her a momentary lapse of grief then it was worth me taking the chance and so I took the liberty here with Paul Shefflin RIP.
If anyone has any further guidance here please don't hesitate to PM me - maybe moderator should do it though they might leave it to an official County Board condolence and I thought that through - this is just doing the right thing, not because it is procedure, I know in my heart and soul we all share the Shefflin's grief, and indeed that of Ballyhale and Kilkenny.
Ah maybe I'm explaining myself too much but I trust people understand given how sensitive we must be here.
RIP Paul Shefflin, raconteur and GAA man - apparently he was a real character while being but a rock to King, pity he wasn't a Kerry GAA Forum member, we'd have some crack as he was also windup merchant par excellence, a resource we could all do with when every forum member tells you 'shut up, you are wrong?'
P.S. There is no self-promotion here, I was fodder 20 years ago, national and a bit beyond!
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 8, 2022 20:44:34 GMT
Alot of us depending on your vintage will never forget 1982 or 2011.
Imagine being a Mayo supporter there's not a councillor in the country that could help ye.
Living in Meath I can tell you they both still hate each other over 96.
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Post by thepromisedland on Mar 8, 2022 21:08:36 GMT
Down through the years we'd have a better reputation than most as being generally nice supporters, not as much in recent years perhaps. Maybe in Con Houlihan's time and words way back, but on my experiences, I would definitely not agree with his words, God be good to his soul. but growing up in the 80's and 90's and going to Kerry games a lot, most definitely not. If anything, we were way too quiet and hopelessly outnumbered at games. Not known as particularly nice to our own #animals Everybody has animals!! 😅🤣. We're good.
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Post by horsebox77 on Mar 8, 2022 21:41:37 GMT
Ballythefireside. Fair play to you. You seem like a very decent man. I think Paul Sheflin (r. I. p.) was married to a Kerry woman. Agree Sport often takes a poor second place, when you consider the hardship endured currently out foreign and the likes of Paul Shefflin and the family left behind. But to echo the above, fair play Ballythefireside.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2022 22:40:18 GMT
Damo I concur with you completely about our vocal support but it is getting better. I have been so lucky and was in croke park for every Kerry final since 1975 when I was only a young boy of 7 years. In all that's 25 finals I have seen Kerry play live(23 finals plus 2 replays 00 and 19).Lucky to see Kerry win 15 lose 8 and drawnv2. The early years colours were poor but from 97 onwards a big improvement but noise levels not as high as other counties. As I've stated before though what really drives me mad is ex players that don't bother wearing a bit of colour. It's like "I'm too special sure everyone knows me anyway" Many players have said that seeing a sprinkle of colour gives them a lift and ex players that don't wear colours are not helping their county. Just put on a green T shirt or something Kerry on you. Ex players from other counties are great to wear their colours. Now I have seen the Bomber Maurice and Liam Flaherty wear the colours and the great Séamus Moynihan but many don't and the worst I've seen is Darragh ó Sé. I seen him in a good few occasions at big Kerry games and nothing green or gold on him. At all ireland v Dublin in 19 he had a blue shirt on him. Now how silly is that and the players can see a sprinkle of blue as if there was nt enough of it in the Hill. Maybe I'm cynical but when you live away from your county you see the faults too. I'm proud to be a Kerryman and I will wear my colours and cheer the county in. I wonder has our lack of noise got to do with how spread out we all are around the stadium? I remember limerick in 2014 there were a good cohort of kerry fans together and the place was electric, and the noise was high, It's hard to get an old chant going if you've got the other teams supporters surrounding you.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 9, 2022 0:30:52 GMT
I think we have better support than we did in the 80s. I remember dragging my poor father to matches all around the country and there weren't too many Kerry fellas around.
I went to the Mc Grath Cup game against Tipp and we were well represented.
I know its a long way for some people to travel to games but I love travelling. I did it with my Dad and now I get the chance to do it with my son. Precious times.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Mar 9, 2022 1:36:35 GMT
Ballythefireside. Fair play to you. You seem like a very decent man. I think Paul Sheflin (r. I. p.) was married to a Kerry woman. Agree Sport often takes a poor second place, when you consider the hardship endured currently out foreign and the likes of Paul Shefflin and the family left behind. But to echo the above, fair play Ballythefireside. He fellow Forum members, apols I didn't know of the Kenmare connection. The few words horse77 and ciarraimick just settled things and I hope I did it near enough - 'decent man' yourself and us all. Hope members will understand and I know our spirit and so do the Cats, I'm chatty but I wasn't so sure of my footing, fair play to all. Until me meet again Paul, slán go foill a chairde mór of an liathroid beag.
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Post by mystic86 on Mar 9, 2022 3:33:49 GMT
I think since our victory against Mayo in Limerick in 2014 Mayo have had the upper hand over us.
We've played 10 games against them in league and championship in the 7 seasons since then, with Kerry only winning 4 of those, 1 draw, and Mayo winning 5.
One of our victories was in the championship and the other 3 were in the league. For Mayo, 1 also in the championship and the rest in the league, albeit one of those league games was a league final in Croker.
It will be interesting to see where this rivalry goes this year, it used to be a bit more 'heated' but at this stage we haven't actually taken the field against them in over 2 years.
We need to show our ability against Mayo and regain the upper hand here, reset the relationship.
Hoping for a good game.
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Post by southward on Mar 9, 2022 9:20:28 GMT
Calling out individuals over the clothes they're wearing? - ffs lads!
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Post by buck02 on Mar 9, 2022 10:01:00 GMT
Calling out individuals over the clothes they're wearing? - ffs lads! This place is going to the dogs! Come back Fat Tom, all is forgiven. Kerry light on defenders for Saturday, will test the bench if we pick up a few knocks during the game. Will be interesting to see how Dylan Casey gets on. Mayo aren't afraid to blood new players so he will probably be picking up a rookie. I see a monsoon is predicted for that afternoon. Let's hope it will pass before 7.30
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Post by thehermit on Mar 9, 2022 10:14:41 GMT
Any indications if this is going to be a sell out or not?
Would it be so much to ask for a dry night, I don't think we've had a game not played in miserable weather since the McGrath Cup final.
The rugby is on just before so I'd suspect a lot of people might be making a quick dash up to ASP for 7. Might mean they'll be some shelter somewhere if you get in ahead of them.
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Post by southward on Mar 9, 2022 10:16:32 GMT
Calling out individuals over the clothes they're wearing? - ffs lads! This place is going to the dogs! Come back Fat Tom, all is forgiven. Kerry light on defenders for Saturday, will test the bench if we pick up a few knocks during the game. Will be interesting to see how Dylan Casey gets on. Mayo aren't afraid to blood new players so he will probably be picking up a rookie. I see a monsoon is predicted for that afternoon. Let's hope it will pass before 7.30 Serious amount of rain here in the last 24 hours with more to come in the next few days. Game could be in danger yet?
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