horsebox77
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 6, 2022 19:44:25 GMT
Minor job between Marc Sė, Sean Bàn Sullivan or John Connell.
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Post by hatchetman on Jul 6, 2022 20:28:21 GMT
Who is John Connell?
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Post by homerj on Jul 6, 2022 21:20:10 GMT
there definitely is a huge lack of quality management offers in the network in Kerry. right now, if Jack left, we dont have somebody in waiting and that is a huge worry. anybody starting out at minor or 20s now, have alot to prove. Jack has only been appointed and already we're fretting about having a proven top-drawer replacement on standby. I very much doubt that other counties have a Micko or a Guardiola in every parish just in case they're needed. No surprise Declan stepping down. The style of play was terrible this year, awful stuff, especially for underage. The minor wasn't any better tbh. It can take 4 or 5 years to grow a successor. Right now, there doesn't appear to be anybody to step up anytime soon. |
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 6, 2022 22:08:02 GMT
Jack has only been appointed and already we're fretting about having a proven top-drawer replacement on standby. I very much doubt that other counties have a Micko or a Guardiola in every parish just in case they're needed. No surprise Declan stepping down. The style of play was terrible this year, awful stuff, especially for underage. The minor wasn't any better tbh. It can take 4 or 5 years to grow a successor. Right now, there doesn't appear to be anybody to step up anytime soon. Current selectors, Diarmuid Murphy or Mike Quirke would be well capable of taking over from Jack. |
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 6, 2022 22:08:52 GMT
Minor job between Marc Sė, Sean Bàn Sullivan or John Connell. I heard a few days ago that PK was interested! |
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Post by horsebox77 on Jul 6, 2022 22:17:37 GMT
I like PK, had an excellent minor record, to be fair only lost three games as senior manager, Dublin replay, Cork with the sucker punch and Tyrone in extra time without DC.
I think Lady Luck was very unkind to the Caherciveen man., personally I’d rather he took a stint at the elusive U20 grade.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 6, 2022 22:41:31 GMT
Minor job between Marc Sė, Sean Bàn Sullivan or John Connell. I heard a few days ago that PK was interested! He’d be a great appointment for the minors. He would give us the best chance of winning All Irelands and also develop players. I think it is widely acknowledged that he was very unlucky as Senior manager. Experience at inter county Senior level can not be under estimated so surely PK is a better manager now than he was pre 2019. That is why I would not be against him becoming Senior manager again in the future. I think after Jack would be too soon (which is why I think the minor job is more appropriate rather than the u20) but let him have the minors, eventually move him up to the 20s and then he could possibly have a crack at the Seniors again. On the Senior Inter County experience point, I would see Eamonn Fitzmaurice if interested as a contender for the u20s. We are not overflowing with quality managers in the county and both men are certainly among the top managers in the county so I think it is a good idea to keep both of those men in consideration for management positions in the county. |
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Post by kingdom1983 on Jul 14, 2022 9:28:08 GMT
Is there going to be a Kerry u20 or U21 Club championship this year? I saw it was played off last year and finished in Fitzgerald stadium for the final for the back end of the year finish. With the U21 County Championship nearly finished up I was just thinking this might be a good competition of Club players to keep playing at there own age in build up to next year.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Aug 17, 2022 15:40:41 GMT
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 17, 2022 17:01:27 GMT
Would that make the O Se brothers the first siblings to manage a Kerry team? |
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Post by horsebox77 on Aug 17, 2022 17:27:18 GMT
Would that make the O Se brothers the first siblings to manage a Kerry team? Great choice, has experience under Billy with Nemo and UCC as well as the Offally stint. His background team will be interesting, rumours of Moynihan on the ticket |
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Post by homerj on Aug 17, 2022 18:29:27 GMT
Ya all about the backroom team
We've badly transitioned from minors to 20s over the last 6 or 7 years so we really need to get act in gear ASAP.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Aug 17, 2022 19:32:21 GMT
Ya all about the backroom team We've badly transitioned from minors to 20s over the last 6 or 7 years so we really need to get act in gear ASAP. If Kevin McStay doesn’t get the Mayo job I’d expect Donie Buckley to be involved, Tomás wanted him last time. Moynihan appears to be a certainty to be involved. We’ve had the players to win an All Ireland at this level each year since 2016. The talent is there next year too, if the management of the group is good enough a long overdue u20 All Ireland will be won. Hopefully Tomás does better than Declan, Sugrue and even Jack who didn’t fare great at this age group. |
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Post by homerj on Aug 17, 2022 19:38:43 GMT
i doubt Donie Buckley would go involved with Kerry again, and at 20s level
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Aug 17, 2022 20:50:48 GMT
Would that make the O Se brothers the first siblings to manage a Kerry team? Darragh was the under 21 coach for 2015/2016 |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Aug 17, 2022 21:07:05 GMT
i doubt Donie Buckley would go involved with Kerry again, and at 20s level He went for it last time along with Tomás and Moynihan. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 17, 2022 21:41:32 GMT
Ya all about the backroom team We've badly transitioned from minors to 20s over the last 6 or 7 years so we really need to get act in gear ASAP. We have transitioned from minors to seniors pretty well though, |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 17, 2022 21:43:57 GMT
If Tomas wins an all Ireland, he will be a very strong contender for the senior job in due course.
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Post by homerj on Aug 17, 2022 21:48:37 GMT
Ya all about the backroom team We've badly transitioned from minors to 20s over the last 6 or 7 years so we really need to get act in gear ASAP. We have transitioned from minors to seniors pretty well though, Hmmmm, many would disagree. 8 year gap for many of these lads to win a senior. Great we won it this year but we simply had to. |
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Post by giveandgo on Aug 17, 2022 21:50:20 GMT
Tomás o sé hasn't been involved in kerry football since he played his last season in 2013. Why all of a sudden is he the right man for the u20 job. He has zero experience with underage football in the county as he's been involved with Cork teams and offaly last year since he retired. Crazy decision if ratified another sé living off his playing reputation
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 17, 2022 21:59:25 GMT
We have transitioned from minors to seniors pretty well though, Hmmmm, many would disagree. 8 year gap for many of these lads to win a senior. Great we won it this year but we simply had to. The players have come through and for the past four years have been one of the top three teams in the country. When they have lost, it has been narrow. There is no comparison with our record at u20 level where we have not even reached a final |
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 18, 2022 7:26:54 GMT
Tomás o sé hasn't been involved in kerry football since he played his last season in 2013. Why all of a sudden is he the right man for the u20 job. He has zero experience with underage football in the county as he's been involved with Cork teams and offaly last year since he retired. Crazy decision if ratified another sé living off his playing reputation Well he's more experienced than Darragh was when he got the job. I don't think he's been involved in management since. |
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Post by homerj on Aug 18, 2022 9:40:56 GMT
Tomás o sé hasn't been involved in kerry football since he played his last season in 2013. Why all of a sudden is he the right man for the u20 job. He has zero experience with underage football in the county as he's been involved with Cork teams and offaly last year since he retired. Crazy decision if ratified another sé living off his playing reputation lack of credible alternatives youd have to say?? wouldnt have been a bad idea to give it to Quirke and see how he gets on. |
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Post by glengael on Aug 18, 2022 10:10:00 GMT
Tomás o sé hasn't been involved in kerry football since he played his last season in 2013. Why all of a sudden is he the right man for the u20 job. He has zero experience with underage football in the county as he's been involved with Cork teams and offaly last year since he retired. Crazy decision if ratified another sé living off his playing reputation lack of credible alternatives youd have to say?? wouldnt have been a bad idea to give it to Quirke and see how he gets on. Absolutely, it would have been a good step to try Quirke, build up some element of a succession plan. The under 20 championship is in danger of possibly being overshadowed by University competitions I think, which of itself excludes those who don't go on to third level. I think Tomas O'Se was involved with some club in Cork, maybe Glanmire and with UCC a few years ago. Don't think he has shown what he would add for this job. Let him manage a few more teams for while yet and see what how he gets on. Paidi did that before he got Kerry u21 gig back in the day. |
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Post by onlykerry on Aug 18, 2022 11:25:08 GMT
I'm a little confused - thought the U20 grade was on the way out and that the old minor and u20/21 was being turned into a single U19 competition.
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 18, 2022 11:55:26 GMT
lack of credible alternatives youd have to say?? wouldnt have been a bad idea to give it to Quirke and see how he gets on. Absolutely, it would have been a good step to try Quirke, build up some element of a succession plan. The under 20 championship is in danger of possibly being overshadowed by University competitions I think, which of itself excludes those who don't go on to third level. I think Tomas O'Se was involved with some club in Cork, maybe Glanmire and with UCC a few years ago. Don't think he has shown what he would add for this job. Let him manage a few more teams for while yet and see what how he gets on. Paidi did that before he got Kerry u21 gig back in the day. I could be wrong but I don't think Paidi had much more experience when he became U21 manager. Think he had only managed West Kerry. As I've before it's on the CB from the past. Never had long term views and gave the job to people based on who they were rather than what they could do. At underage level a season or two is a long time. |
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Post by blacksheep21 on Aug 18, 2022 15:39:51 GMT
It would be good at some stage to get Donaghy back in the fold.
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Post by clarinman on Aug 18, 2022 19:16:47 GMT
I'm a little confused - thought the U20 grade was on the way out and that the old minor and u20/21 was being turned into a single U19 competition. That motion didn't get the required 60% at Congress. I believe they plan to look at it again at a special Congress in the autumn. |
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Post by pillar on Aug 19, 2022 13:26:24 GMT
Has anyone considered a fella who managed Kerry to 3 Minor All Irelands in the very recent past(2016-2018)..would it be wrong to get him back on board
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Post by hurlingman on Aug 19, 2022 18:00:07 GMT
Has anyone considered a fella who managed Kerry to 3 Minor All Irelands in the very recent past(2016-2018)..would it be wrong to get him back on board Given how things ended last year he might not be in a rush to get back involved again. |
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