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Post by Mickmack on Feb 15, 2022 13:33:32 GMT
Best of luck with the campaign. I am sure it will work out as well as it did in 2017 against Paddy Neilan after that one point loss in the league final.
Its a game of inches as they say. These things matter.
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 15, 2022 13:38:43 GMT
Skybluezone. On the money you mention it goes to kids. True but it also goes to clubs to pay half the wages for full time coaches. Because the gaa gave Dublin so much money the Dublin County board could spend extra on their teams and yes Cluxton and the older players benefited too. We in Kerry are blessed too with great sponser like Kerry group and we also have plenty due to fundraising etc but we got it ourselves. We got very little from gaa ré football and hurling. Check the figures. Kerry would nt have won much without money nor would Cork and Dublin certainly would nt. I think Dublin GAA match whatever is given to GPOs. The figures that everyone gets upset about are amount per registered player. Which is a false metric because: The money is directed mainly at primary school level, which actually tells you that in the noughties not enough kids were playing GAA. Obviously if things are done properly as regards coaching, you would expect to see a dividend over time, say around now. But it appears now that there wasn't a conveyor belt of talent, and it also appears that the team of the 6, or 7, or 8, were in fact a generational group. Which most commentators outside the Pale scoffed at.... A good proportion of the money is Sports Council Ireland money, where you make a business case etc when applying for funding. This is not GAA money. The money doesn't go on extra cones, trips to La Manga, iPads, meals on wheels or god knows what else. There are plenty of "culchies" playing senior football in Dublin, too many actually. We shouldn't count these lads. I'll stop responding now as I'm sure it's as tiresome for others as it is for me. |
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Post by skybluezone on Feb 15, 2022 13:42:55 GMT
Best of luck with the campaign. I am sure it will work out as well as it did in 2017 against Paddy Neilan after that one point loss in the league final. Its a game of inches as they say. These things matter. Seriously, you won a league final in 2017 and you think there was a campaign to go after Nealon. All I can say is it wasn't anywhere near as effective as the Kerry campaign re Gough, McQuillan and Coldrick. And while I'm at it re your previous post Lane gave James McCarthy a black card in the 2016 game which means so much to you. I was about 20 yards from the "incident" which effectively was Cillian O'Connor putting himself in McCarthy's path. A nothing black. I've just said I'll stop responding but I'll make an exception for you because I laugh at your bitterness. And you a club member in Dublin? have a day off bitter.... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 14:04:59 GMT
Jeez lads let it go! The only refereeing decision that really haunts me us the Meath "goal" in 2010 that denied Louth a leinster that was horrific. All this whataboutery is tedious maybe we could set up a separate thread for that sort of stuff. Thats fair enough if these things dont bother you but its bothers many others. In the aftermath of the 2017 league final, Dublin Inc came out with a campaign against a good young referee from Roscommon called Paddy Neilan. Dublin lost that game by a point. The refrain was that 'experienced referees' should get these games. Come the All Ireland final, Dublin win the all ireland by a point v Mayo with Joe McQuillan as ref. Normal service etc There is now a campaign against Conor Lane after the latest Dublin losses. I fully expect that if Kerry meet Dublin in the 2022 semi final either Gough or Coldrick will be ref. I dont think it McQuillan will ever get another Kerry v Dublin championship game...Kerry put the foot down after 2011 on that. Proper order too. I think its a disgrace that refs associated with or living in a county should ref games involving their adopted county. what ever happened Paddy Neilan Mick? In fairness he let the dubs get away with a lot of over physicality that day, Mccarthy pushed his fist into Donnacha Walsh face and McMahon punched Geaney while he was on the ground after the whistle was blown. He black carded Lyne and Connolly correctly that day and he booked cluxtin for going to the reffs dressing room during half time, I mean what was cluxtin doing in the reffs dressing room at half time that day? and it makes you think how many times has cluxtin gone to the reffs dressing room in other big games !!! |
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Post by horsebox77 on Feb 15, 2022 14:23:28 GMT
Wasn't aware of Cluxton going to the referee's dressing room.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 14:28:19 GMT
Wasn't aware of Cluxton going to the referee's dressing room. cluxtin got booked before the throw in at the start of the second half horse, I remember seeing it that day and thinking he must have done something going down the tunnel at half time but when I watched the game back the following day the commentators seemed to think it was because the clux went to the reffs dressing room at half time. |
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 15, 2022 14:36:38 GMT
Best of luck with the campaign. I am sure it will work out as well as it did in 2017 against Paddy Neilan after that one point loss in the league final. Its a game of inches as they say. These things matter. Seriously, you won a league final in 2017 and you think there was a campaign to go after Nealon. All I can say is it wasn't anywhere near as effective as the Kerry campaign re Gough, McQuillan and Coldrick. And while I'm at it re your previous post Lane gave James McCarthy a black card in the 2016 game which means so much to you. I was about 20 yards from the "incident" which effectively was Cillian O'Connor putting himself in McCarthy's path. A nothing black. I've just said I'll stop responding but I'll make an exception for you because I laugh at your bitterness. And you a club member in Dublin? have a day off bitter.... I had no issue with Coldrick last year No issue with that guy who reffed the 2020 game with Cork...i have no idea who it was No issue with Lane in 2019 I dont believe Gough should have got the 2019 drawn game I cant recall who reffed the games with Galway and Monaghan and Donegal in 2018... no issue with them anyway. Similarly i cant recall who reffed the 2017 games with Mayo I hardly ever complain about refs. I just want them to be neutral and after that if they make human error so be it, I will say no more now once you stop your campaign against Lane. |
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Feb 15, 2022 15:31:58 GMT
So you're complaining that an action warranting a black card shouldn't be punished if the ref didn't see it. It's not the Purge. The only issue is the wrong player black carded. The umpires saw it because it happened in front of them. How they got the wrong man is beyond me? At least Scully will get that card recinded should he be black carded two more times this year. Also complaining about the home crowd affecting the ref. It's so tough on Dublin playing all their championship games away from home. Remind me again how many Leinster championship games did ye play away again in the past 15 years? One was it v Wexford last year. Tough for ye never playing games in your own county. I've heard that one team has played numerous finals in the past decade where the ref officiating the finals lives and works in one of the competing counties. Imagine having that advantage and also home advantage for finals. I'm not complaining, 3 times now I've said that Kerry won well. I'm just pointing out the ineptitude of the officials. If I was complaining I'd say Clifford pen was soft in the extreme. And Small got a yellow for getting dragged down by Clifford. Soft or not, running through the back of a player in the penalty area is asking for trouble. Think of it as punishment for stupidity. Better off learning that in the league. Re: Small's yellow, Kerry were on top at that stage (I think they had scored two quick points just before) with Kerry again on the attack with a free. Why would a Kerry player, at that time, want to slow down play? You think David Clifford started that? The scuffle benefitted Dublin to slow down play and try to kill momentum. Clifford participated in the scuffle along with Small and both got yellow, let's not kid ourselves on who started it. |
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Post by southward on Feb 15, 2022 17:29:34 GMT
Kerry CB fundraise about twenty times as much as Dublin CB. Because Dublin do not need to fund raise given what they are being handed by HQ, and their 20+ commercial sponsors. I mean Aer Lingus is the 'official' airline of Dublin GAA - what bloody county needs an official airline!!!
I suppose it's on the off-chance they have to play outside Croker. Like the spare physios in case of extra-time. |
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 15, 2022 17:44:48 GMT
Gough who didn't see that foul would be able to answer all that as he was chairman of Cumann na mBunscol Dublin at the time he was appointed referee of that All Ireland final. And its said that teachers have eyes in the back of their heads!!! Gough is reffing next Saturdays game between Dublin and Mayo |
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 15, 2022 18:22:43 GMT
Because Dublin do not need to fund raise given what they are being handed by HQ, and their 20+ commercial sponsors. I mean Aer Lingus is the 'official' airline of Dublin GAA - what bloody county needs an official airline!!!
I suppose it's on the off-chance they have to play outside Croker. Like the spare physios in case of extra-time. Some planning by Jim Gavin to have an official airline, inspired |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Feb 15, 2022 18:55:24 GMT
skybluezone.Many in Dublin went crazy over Niall Morgans tackle on paddy Andreews where Paddy got a broken jaw.Niall morgan apologised saying it was an accident but regardless it was a terrible tackle.John Smalls tackle on McLaughlin was nearly identical to Morgans (check it out on youtube nearly a carbon copy of each other)where again the victim got a broken jaw.the difference was Small did not apologise.A shoulder to the jaw is a great tackle when done shoulder to shoulder but a shoulder to jaw is not.What s good for the goose is good for the gander.Finally on your comment on culchies.If us culchies were nt in Dublin then the Dubs would have no Brian Fentons Brian Mullins Diarmuid Connollys Con o Callaghans Cian O Sullivans.Show me a Dub and I ll show you the son or grandson of a countryman.Fact not fiction. The Kerry Ingredient, the footbalers, not the jaw breaking. Coincidentally Johnny Sexton son of Kerry also nearly got shoulder-to-jaw a few weeks back vs Wales. |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 15, 2022 19:48:57 GMT
Kerry CB fundraise about twenty times as much as Dublin CB. Because Dublin do not need to fund raise given what they are being handed by HQ. This was precisely my point. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 19:50:00 GMT
Gough who didn't see that foul would be able to answer all that as he was chairman of Cumann na mBunscol Dublin at the time he was appointed referee of that All Ireland final. And its said that teachers have eyes in the back of their heads!!! Gough is reffing next Saturdays game between Dublin and Mayo that's nuts 😀 Put the house on a dublin win so. |
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Post by thehermit on Feb 15, 2022 19:53:42 GMT
Because Dublin do not need to fund raise given what they are being handed by HQ. This was precisely my point. Ah apologies Annascaul sometimes the subtly of a post gets lost |
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 15, 2022 19:56:26 GMT
This was precisely my point. Ah apologies Annascaul sometimes the subtly of a post gets lost I don't care about all this money and ref talk but I do find the fundraising numbers illuminating in the debate and cut to the chase. |
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Post by keane on Feb 16, 2022 11:42:52 GMT
Ah apologies Annascaul sometimes the subtly of a post gets lost I don't care about all this money and ref talk but I do find the fundraising numbers illuminating in the debate and cut to the chase. Think of all the man hours spent on fundraising in one county that are spent on directly improving players, clubs, structures in the other |
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Post by southward on Feb 16, 2022 11:49:06 GMT
Heard that lots of supporters who parked up in Clash area vs Dublin received €80 fines for parking illegally on footpaths - bitter pill to swallow when people have been parking there for years & no warnings from Gardaí about it. I heard that one too. Some over-zealous sergeant no doubt. Ok, there's the law but there's also what's practicable. If you have an event with 12,000 people in a county with f*ck all public transport, then large numbers of people have to drive. If you're not providing parking at the event, then those people have to make do elsewhere. And it's just not possible to find strictly legal parking for those sort of numbers. Are we going to have the same in Killarney on Sunday, I wonder? People will be put off going to games if this is going to be the craic. Bitter pill is right. |
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Post by keane on Feb 16, 2022 14:46:05 GMT
Tralee is basically a few shops and bars nestled around a large collection of carparks.
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