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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 26, 2021 16:37:43 GMT
Not much to report veteran, it was too easy for Desmonds, they are just physically imposing and never allowed Ballyduff time on the ball, when Desmonds moved through the gears they opened up the Ballyduff defence time and time again,
Nice crowd in Frank Sheehy park, the weather was dry and mild with a low sun but for St Stephens day, we can’t complain, Desmonds lined out without the named Adam Donoghue and I was hoping this might give the Ballyduff lads some hope but Desmonds are just big physical lads who are very comfortable on the ball and more to the point play to their strengths . Desmonds half back line of Brosnan, O’Connor and Lyons were the rock that the majority of the Ballyduff attacks stumbled to as well as being the launch pad for turnovers and attacks.
Once Desmonds number 12, Walsh marked a Ballyduff kickout and the ball was worked to Adam O’Donoghue, who found the net, the writing was on the wall, Ballyduff did claw it back with the help of a Kevin O’Connor Penalty after Mikey Boyle had initially hit the crossbar and even though the Desmonds corner back saw yellow for the high tackle on the rebound, as a neutral, I though it was a black at the least. It was well dispatched to the bottom corner past the Desmonds keeper.
The highlight was for me and one of the best scores of the half was a great weaving run by Goulding who dummied the Desmonds defence to spilt the posts from about 35 yards.
However, after the water break Desmonds just took over, I counted four or five block downs by the Desmonds defence and invariably they drove forward to score.
At HT it was 1-09 to 1-02, Desmonds introduced Adam Donoghue around the middle, Ballyduff scored the first point after the break but Desmonds were keeping them at arms length, at this juncture Ballyduff were a beaten docket and to compound matters, in the last quarter Mikey saw the line for two yellows, the first being for verbals to Brendan Griffin.
Desmonds ran in easy scores in the second half, with the final whistle came the 3-15 to 1-05 score line. Did the score line flatter Castleisland, honestly not really they were much much the better team and controlled the game from the off. Last week Padraig Boyle had a lot of success on the forty but he was well stifled today and their defence which was hard marking and tight last week was fair porous today.
When Ballyduff did have a turnover they had no options as, the majority of their players were deep, the gap between, the turnover and the forward two of Mikey and Goulding was too big to surpass. Positional Desmonds had the better formation and also changed tack from last week with Brian Leonard going on Goulding and Conor Shea tagging Mikey Boyle.
There was just a gulf in physicality and class today and in truth Ballyduff can have no complaints on the day, the general consensus in advance was they missed their chance last week and that is more or less how it unfolded.
Not to your usual standard Veteran, but it will give you the general jist.
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Post by veteran on Dec 26, 2021 16:57:37 GMT
Great report Horsebox. Thanks a million for that.
From a Kerry point of view it was a shame that Adam Donoghue did not start. Horsebox , I have often mentioned Luka Brosnan here as a prospect. What did you think of him today?
There is no doubt this is a fine Desmonds team and should be able to achieve the three in a row if they are interested.
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 26, 2021 17:16:06 GMT
Veteran, Luka Brosnan and Luke Lyons handled a pile of ball, in the first quarter, as Ballydulff fell back deep, both Luke and Luka were able to overlap at will and set up attacks, but the sheer size of the four wing men for Castleisland the two mentioned as well as Walsh and ODonoghue at wing forward gives them a great platform for kickouts and braking ball.
As stated before Adam Donoghue just looks so comfortable on the ball, one of these players that it looks like time slows down, when he regains full fitness I would definitely bring into the extended panel.
It’s a pity that the Kerry Junior panel are no more as that would be a great stepping stone for the likes of Bronsna and Adam Donoghue to give them a slight insight into the commitment and set up involved .
As you say Desmonds should be able to achieve the three in a row but like you say the key phase is if “they are interested”
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Post by southward on Dec 26, 2021 17:29:32 GMT
Good report, horsebox, summed it up nicely. Ballyd getting the first score was as good as it got for them. Desmonds sharper, smarter and fitter. Game was up long before the end, which was a pity for all the neutrals in a very healthy crowd.
Ok, Victor Meldrew moment: why do people go to games that have no interest at all in watching it? Pity about me, says you but people constantly arsing up and down the walkways in your eyeline can be a bit irritating. Mostly gangs of kids and buggy-wielding parents. Like, why are you there?
Anyway, a pleasant afternoon's outing; shame it wasn't a bit closer but sure what else would you want to be doing today? Weather picked up just in time too.
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Post by southward on Dec 26, 2021 17:31:43 GMT
Veteran, Luka Brosnan and Luke Lyons handled a pile of ball, in the first quarter, as Ballydulff fell back deep, both Luke and Luka were able to overlap at will and set up attacks, but the sheer size of the four wing men for Castleisland the two mentioned as well as Walsh and ODonoghue at wing forward gives them a great platform for kickouts and braking ball. As stated before Adam Donoghue just looks so comfortable on the ball, one of these players that it looks like time slows down, when he regains full fitness I would definitely bring into the extended panel. It’s a pity that the Kerry Junior panel are no more as that would be a great stepping stone for the likes of Bronsna and Adam Donoghue to give them a slight insight into the commitment and set up involved . As you say Desmonds should be able to achieve the three in a row but like you say the key phase is if “they are interested” "the Kerry Junior panel are no more" Really? How come? |
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Post by horsebox77 on Dec 26, 2021 17:54:48 GMT
I’m nearly sure this competition was dispensed with yes? Sure who is our junior manager? James is our Minor coach, Declan is U21 and Jack is senior - I’m nearly sure once Jimmy Keane tenure was up and Covid 19 kicked in Croke Park deemed the competition surplus to requirements
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Post by southward on Dec 26, 2021 18:34:30 GMT
I’m nearly sure this competition was dispensed with yes? Sure who is our junior manager? James is our Minor coach, Declan is U21 and Jack is senior - I’m nearly sure once Jimmy Keane tenure was up and Covid 19 kicked in Croke Park deemed the competition surplus to requirements That's a shame, though it was never terribly well supported or promoted anyway. Deserves better. I wonder would it have been deemed surplus to requirements if Dublin were collecting junior titles? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2021 20:02:30 GMT
I’m nearly sure this competition was dispensed with yes? Sure who is our junior manager? James is our Minor coach, Declan is U21 and Jack is senior - I’m nearly sure once Jimmy Keane tenure was up and Covid 19 kicked in Croke Park deemed the competition surplus to requirements from 1917-1922 there was no junior football championship (understandable I guess) and from 1974 - 1982 there was also no junior championship (not sure why) but hopefully it'll return again 1 day, can't understand why more teams didn't use it, we ended up using it as a development squad for U23s. |
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 26, 2021 20:31:31 GMT
If it was redesigned as an u23 competition with players making the Senior 26 not eligible I think most counties would enter. That’d be a great competition for every county to develop players who aren’t at a quality to make the Senior inter county side straight out of u20. Maybe even allow 3 overage players so it would really be an opportunity for all the best players not making the championship panel to stake their claim. There’s definitely a real opportunity to create a competition along these lines with the split season as well as the move from u21 to u20.
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Post by givehimaball on Dec 26, 2021 23:32:22 GMT
I’m nearly sure this competition was dispensed with yes? Sure who is our junior manager? James is our Minor coach, Declan is U21 and Jack is senior - I’m nearly sure once Jimmy Keane tenure was up and Covid 19 kicked in Croke Park deemed the competition surplus to requirements The Junior All-Ireland competition still exists. However it is only for Kilkenny, New York and the various British counties. Basically the British counties will have a competition and the winner and runner-up of that will play off against Kilkenny and New York in the semi-finals of the Junior All-Ireland. Kerry were the county who over the last decade got the most benefit out of the Junior competition - in terms of winning All-Irelands, developing players for the senior panel and giving lads just below that level a chance to wear the green-and-gold. Going back over the years I'd imagine there is probably a strong case to be made that Kerry is the county that got the most out of this competition. 4 out of the 9 recent additions to the squad have lined out for the Juniors in recent years - Shane Murphy, Dara Roche, Dan O'Donoghue and Andrew Barry. When the motion to change it came before Congress last February, the Kerry GAA delegation should have been fighting tooth and nail to retain this competition. Instead they offered not a whit of resistance to the changes to the format. Gross mismanagement. |
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Post by kerryexile on Dec 27, 2021 0:04:34 GMT
I’m nearly sure this competition was dispensed with yes? Sure who is our junior manager? James is our Minor coach, Declan is U21 and Jack is senior - I’m nearly sure once Jimmy Keane tenure was up and Covid 19 kicked in Croke Park deemed the competition surplus to requirements The Junior All-Ireland competition still exists. However it is only for Kilkenny, New York and the various British counties. Basically the British counties will have a competition and the winner and runner-up of that will play off against Kilkenny and New York in the semi-finals of the Junior All-Ireland. As it appears that there is a review of financial distribution going on, should counties not be assessed on their hurling and football status separately. A small number of counties have a preference for one game and do not see both games equally. Seeing Kilkenny included as the only football team with off shore teams. begs the question what are they doing about football. A few years ago in an interview Cody said more or less that Kilkenny football was where it should be and that would not be changing any time soon. Kilkenny are the only team in the country that do not have a football team. 31 counties plus NY & London are in the championship. Is 100% of their allocation going to hurling? |
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Post by ballhopper34 on Dec 27, 2021 3:22:40 GMT
. However it is only for Kilkenny, New York and the various British counties.
Basically the British counties will have a competition and the winner and runner-up of that will play off against Kilkenny and New York in the semi-finals of the Junior All-Ireland.This is correct...Britain's finalists and Kilkenny/New York will play a semi-final on Friday 8 July 2022 and the final is 2 days later on 10 July 2022. Venues have not been decided, might not even be in Ireland! |
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 27, 2021 3:26:56 GMT
The Junior All-Ireland competition still exists. However it is only for Kilkenny, New York and the various British counties. Basically the British counties will have a competition and the winner and runner-up of that will play off against Kilkenny and New York in the semi-finals of the Junior All-Ireland. As it appears that there is a review of financial distribution going on, should counties not be assessed on their hurling and football status separately. A small number of counties have a preference for one game and do not see both games equally. Seeing Kilkenny included as the only football team with off shore teams. begs the question what are they doing about football. A few years ago in an interview Cody said more or less that Kilkenny football was where it should be and that would not be changing any time soon. Kilkenny are the only team in the country that do not have a football team. 31 counties plus NY & London are in the championship. Is 100% of their allocation going to hurling? If Cody said that then there is a pattern here as he also had a similar view on another marginalised group is society - what a great manager but there is always an taobh eile! Skin and hair 'twill be with King Henry and it ain't so long ago it was all brotherly love, seldom was there such a bon d of equals, openly conferring on vital on-field decisions, etc - I suppose nobody likes to move on and few get to leave on their terms, Dwyer and Harte being but two examples. What with Limerick right up there, we could be in for great championships in both codes in 2022 if we got rid of this cursed virus. Some rate Henry ahead of John Kiely but can he close the gap? Can Dessie F rekindle the Dubs, will Tyrone do the back-to-backs or can JackO'C uncap the gun to make short work of all of 'em all? |
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Post by goonised on Dec 27, 2021 9:12:04 GMT
Desmonds a lot sharper and fitter. Obviously used the week better in terms of learnings tho again like the first day left several goal chances after them by over elaboration. They didn't have to come out of second gear.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 27, 2021 10:42:37 GMT
If it was redesigned as an u23 competition with players making the Senior 26 not eligible I think most counties would enter. That’d be a great competition for every county to develop players who aren’t at a quality to make the Senior inter county side straight out of u20. Maybe even allow 3 overage players so it would really be an opportunity for all the best players not making the championship panel to stake their claim. There’s definitely a real opportunity to create a competition along these lines with the split season as well as the move from u21 to u20. Superb idea, genuinely the perfect solution to a number of issues and would really raise interest in the competition |
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