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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 22, 2021 9:55:03 GMT
I have been away from Kerry a few years now. I don't get the hype for Tony Brosnan. Has he played any real game apart from against cork last year? As far as I remember he had a few very good county championships they last few years. I think others like Tommy, Killian Spillane, Adrian Spillane will all need to get minutes in their legs as well. For me from what I saw Tony Brosnan was unmarkable for Crokes last year before his bad injury. Based on that alone he should be getting game time all be it we are not watching training. With respect to Tommy Walsh he offers something different but is not a scoring threat.
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Post by buck02 on Jul 22, 2021 10:24:08 GMT
Not sure what would be the point of playing Tony Brosnan on Sunday if as expected Cork pack the area in front of our full forward line and make it pointless kicking ball into whoever is in there with Clifford.
I think Tony could be a useful last 15 minute impact sub if we get to Croke Park. Himself and Killian would probably be playing for that same role however give the sub limit of 5. Killian and Tony coming on in Croke Park would probably mean Kerry are chasing the game.
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Post by onlykerry on Jul 22, 2021 11:04:04 GMT
I am disappointed that some contributors have a fear of Cork. Kerry will win well in whatever grounds this game is played. Having a fear like this does not convey confidence in Kerry winning the remaining games V Ulster Champs and most likely Dublin - both which will be fixed for Croke Park. Fear is not the issue - there is no back door and therefore no unnecessary risk should be taken. Cork have a history of playing there best football against Kerry - they seem to define their season by how they do against Kerry rather than by what they win. Kerry are streets ahead of the current Cork team and we were streets ahead of them in 2020 but we saw what happened. Take no unnecessary risks is my mantra not a fear of Cork.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 22, 2021 11:10:27 GMT
Not sure what would be the point of playing Tony Brosnan on Sunday if as expected Cork pack the area in front of our full forward line and make it pointless kicking ball into whoever is in there with Clifford. I think Tony could be a useful last 15 minute impact sub if we get to Croke Park. Himself and Killian would probably be playing for that same role however give the sub limit of 5. Killian and Tony coming on in Croke Park would probably mean Kerry are chasing the game. Fair points Buck, If the game opens ups I'd like to see him at some stage.
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 22, 2021 11:41:33 GMT
Not sure what would be the point of playing Tony Brosnan on Sunday if as expected Cork pack the area in front of our full forward line and make it pointless kicking ball into whoever is in there with Clifford. totally disagree. I think Brosnan is a bit part player but Killian is top drawer and is held as an impact sub and will play a huge part. if kerry go all the way I'm convinced Killian will play a massive part I think Tony could be a useful last 15 minute impact sub if we get to Croke Park. Himself and Killian would probably be playing for that same role however give the sub limit of 5. Killian and Tony coming on in Croke Park would probably mean Kerry are chasing the game. Fair points Buck, If the game opens ups I'd like to see him at some stage.
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Post by Deise Exile on Jul 22, 2021 11:42:40 GMT
Not sure what would be the point of playing Tony Brosnan on Sunday if as expected Cork pack the area in front of our full forward line and make it pointless kicking ball into whoever is in there with Clifford. I think Tony could be a useful last 15 minute impact sub if we get to Croke Park. Himself and Killian would probably be playing for that same role however give the sub limit of 5. Killian and Tony coming on in Croke Park would probably mean Kerry are chasing the game. Fair points Buck, If the game opens ups I'd like to see him at some stage. totally disagree. I think Brosnan is a bit part player but Killian is top drawer and is held as an impact sub and will play a huge part. if kerry go all the way I'm convinced Killian will play a massive part
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 22, 2021 11:58:17 GMT
Fair points Buck, If the game opens ups I'd like to see him at some stage. totally disagree. I think Brosnan is a bit part player but Killian is top drawer and is held as an impact sub and will play a huge part. if kerry go all the way I'm convinced Killian will play a massive part Killian is fantastic and has been brilliant off the bench. I just want to see Tony to see what he can offer. More options the better in my opinion.
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Post by john4 on Jul 22, 2021 12:14:21 GMT
I expect Cork to play with 2 sweepers and build their attacks slowly to push us back into our own half similar to Tipperary and also similar to how they set up last November. There will be no room for anything fancy. This will be about getting in front on the scoreboard early, maintaining patience, shape and discipline and keep working hard. We've way better footballers but there's needs to be 100% concentration on the job. Get it done, and go home!!
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Post by buck02 on Jul 22, 2021 12:47:58 GMT
Fair points Buck, If the game opens ups I'd like to see him at some stage. totally disagree. I think Brosnan is a bit part player but Killian is top drawer and is held as an impact sub and will play a huge part. if kerry go all the way I'm convinced Killian will play a massive part What bit do you totally disagree with? That Killian and Tony will be chasing the same 'impact sub' role. Or if they both come on it will mean Kerry are probably going to be chasing the game.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 22, 2021 13:59:22 GMT
Lads any word on Dara Moynihan ?
I thought his injury was only a minor knock.
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Post by Fado on Jul 22, 2021 14:11:03 GMT
When fully fit, Tony Brosnan is a player that can make a major contribution to a game. Right now, he is recovering from a hand injury.
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 22, 2021 14:13:52 GMT
Lads any word on Dara Moynihan ? I thought his injury was only a minor knock. Management say a knock but hearing that he won’t play any part in this year’s championship due to hamstring issues - hope I am wrong but not looking good so far.
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Post by piggott on Jul 22, 2021 14:57:22 GMT
He will be back for semi final if we get there|
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Post by Kingdomson on Jul 22, 2021 15:20:41 GMT
I expect Cork to play with 2 sweepers and build their attacks slowly to push us back into our own half similar to Tipperary and also similar to how they set up last November. There will be no room for anything fancy. This will be about getting in front on the scoreboard early, maintaining patience, shape and discipline and keep working hard. We've way better footballers but there's needs to be 100% concentration on the job. Get it done, and go home!! I think you have analysed it well. Moreover, there is fighting talk coming out of Cork. Ronan McCarthy has stated Kerry do not have a monopoly on hurt and his right of course, Sean Powter has said he believes Cork will win and one would expect nothing else of such a competitive sportsman. I expect Cork to come full of piss and vinegar and they absolutely revel in being underdogs. Cork beating Kerry for a second year on the bounce and winning a Munster title would make it make a successful season for Ronan McCarthy and his troops regardless of how the All Ireland series pans out. We all know Kerry’s ultimate ambition is different. The best thing that could happen for Kerry on Sunday is they are in an absolute furnace and dragged into a dogfight to the finish. Moreover, should we emerge victorious a baptism of fire exposing any weakness would be the best preparation possible for facing Ulster Champions who will already have experienced Croke Park this season.
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Post by pillar on Jul 22, 2021 15:25:11 GMT
3 days before a Munster Final in Killarney, fine weather and not a word or excitement in the county about the game.Think because so few will be able to go there's no buzz about it..clubs only getting 4 or 5 tickets..they'd nearly be better off playing behind closed doors!!
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 22, 2021 16:02:53 GMT
Lads any word on Dara Moynihan ? I thought his injury was only a minor knock. Management say a knock but hearing that he won’t play any part in this year’s championship due to hamstring issues - hope I am wrong but not looking good so far. Would be a very big loss. Burns can play the same role but just isn’t as good. If Killian Spillane or Brosnan come in then it’s changing the structure of our forward line.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jul 22, 2021 16:06:08 GMT
What’s the story with attendance so, is it definitely only 2500? I thought 4000 had government backing so who or what’s the problem there? Also have tickets been distributed to clubs yet?
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Post by peanuts on Jul 22, 2021 16:19:23 GMT
Management say a knock but hearing that he won’t play any part in this year’s championship due to hamstring issues - hope I am wrong but not looking good so far. Would be a very big loss. Burns can play the same role but just isn’t as good. If Killian Spillane or Brosnan come in then it’s changing the structure of our forward line. Moynihan would be a big loss as he has been excellent this year. I do think Burns is capable of more than he showed against Tipperary. I wonder would they consider (don't shoot me for suggesting it) Paul Murphy in the forwards, not as an extra defender but in the role that Moynihan plays which includes high work rate and tracking back.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 22, 2021 16:20:12 GMT
Lads any word on Dara Moynihan ? I thought his injury was only a minor knock. Management say a knock but hearing that he won’t play any part in this year’s championship due to hamstring issues - hope I am wrong but not looking good so far. Man I hope that's not true.
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Post by dc84 on Jul 22, 2021 16:43:23 GMT
Moynihan would be a big loss if true, what do people think should be the starting team ? I think the geaney experiment at 12 cannot continue this weekend cork will just put powter on him and there will be only one outcome to that matchup in a presumably hot killarney on Sunday. If Moynihan is missing there is another big call if cork play a couple of sweepers id leave o shea out the field at 11. I'd start spillane and leave him inside with David and probably burns but maybe Paul o shea could be a bolter?
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Post by greengold35 on Jul 22, 2021 16:50:24 GMT
Would be a very big loss. Burns can play the same role but just isn’t as good. If Killian Spillane or Brosnan come in then it’s changing the structure of our forward line. Moynihan would be a big loss as he has been excellent this year. I do think Burns is capable of more than he showed against Tipperary. I wonder would they consider (don't shoot me for suggesting it) Paul Murphy in the forwards, not as an extra defender but in the role that Moynihan plays which includes high work rate and tracking back. Paul Murphy is one possibility but I would prefer we go with Jack Barry @ midfield & free up Diarmuid O’Connor in the roving role - think he offers so much more than Burns - can kick off either foot & has a great burst of speed .
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Post by royalkerryfan on Jul 22, 2021 17:46:51 GMT
Moynihan would be a big loss as he has been excellent this year. I do think Burns is capable of more than he showed against Tipperary. I wonder would they consider (don't shoot me for suggesting it) Paul Murphy in the forwards, not as an extra defender but in the role that Moynihan plays which includes high work rate and tracking back. Paul Murphy is one possibility but I would prefer we go with Jack Barry @ midfield & free up Diarmuid O’Connor in the roving role - think he offers so much more than Burns - can kick off either foot & has a great burst of speed . Yeah that's a very good idea.
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Post by taggert on Jul 22, 2021 17:50:45 GMT
A better temperament, unlikely to take wild low percentage shots and good vision. Good shout.
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Post by taggert on Jul 22, 2021 17:51:42 GMT
Than Burns that is....
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Post by brigid on Jul 22, 2021 19:03:14 GMT
Interesting suggestion that Cork will play 2 sweepers. Will Kerry also play 2 sweepers. Will 2 of the Kerry backs go forward or will they stay in their own half. Could make a very boring game but could be good experience if Tyrone win Ulster.
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Post by Lolly Valance on Jul 22, 2021 19:11:43 GMT
I would go with Paul Murphy ahead of Burns for the link role. Murphy has the ability to play that role. I think Geaney is going to continue as a half forward. The idea is that if teams try to double up on Clifford and and o Shea, Geaney might be left more open on the loop.
That's why a Dara moynihan plays as he tracks geaneys man as well
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Post by taggert on Jul 22, 2021 19:48:52 GMT
Thats some luxury for Paul Geaney and one that wont be lost on most teams...
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Post by clarinman on Jul 22, 2021 19:50:10 GMT
I would go with Paul Murphy ahead of Burns for the link role. Murphy has the ability to play that role. I think Geaney is going to continue as a half forward. The idea is that if teams try to double up on Clifford and and o Shea, Geaney might be left more open on the loop. That's why a Dara moynihan plays as he tracks geaneys man as well Geaney played higher up the pitch in the Tipperary match. It was mostly a 2-man inside line of David and Paul.
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Post by gaelicden on Jul 22, 2021 19:58:44 GMT
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Post by dc84 on Jul 22, 2021 21:09:40 GMT
Interesting suggestion that Cork will play 2 sweepers. Will Kerry also play 2 sweepers. Will 2 of the Kerry backs go forward or will they stay in their own half. Could make a very boring game but could be good experience if Tyrone win Ulster. One of the Half backs will sweep and Tom Sullivan will push up just like the tipp match , playing into our hands there I feel
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