Kerry vs Tyrone league semi-final - 12 June, Killarney 5pm

[john4]

Tyrone were cat!

[Annascaultilidie]

Really no idea what to make of that.

Kerry somehow simultaneously clinical and wasteful.

I guess not at championship pitch (the game).

Great to see some "intensity" from the backs.

And a lovely day too.

[goforit2]

Jason Foleys performances recently is the most positive development. It'd be great if he could nail down that position.

[dano]

Game over at half time. The backs were very good today. Long time since we had it so easy against an Ulster side. All in all a successful League campaign. Paudi Clifford is the best of the 2021 newcomers and our subs are a team on their own. You'd have to be very confident going into the championship now. Looking forward to it.

[royalkerryfan]

Awesome from Kerry, 6.15 is mind boggling.
It's not like Tyrone played a second team they were just destroyed.
Foley, White and Fitzgibbon were Brilliant as were the two Clifford's.

[taggert]

Watching Dublin and Donegal, its like a different sport. A cure for insomnia I might add but light years removed from the naive and insipid displays by Tyrone today and Galway in round 1. Of little to no benefit to Kerry.

DaraM, Diarmuid and Paudie very good again. Spillane did well when he came on. 3 giveaway goals by the Tyrone keeper in what was a setup by Tyrone that theyvwould never deploy in a c'ship game.

[gaelicden]

2021 NFL Division 1 co-champions: Kerry & Dublin. Ryder Cup rules state current champion retains it, so Kerry are champions on that basis.

[Whosinmidfield]

Have to be absolutely delighted with that league campaign. We have returned to an attacking style of play that gets the best out of our forwards. We have found new options in Paudie Clifford, Mike Breen and even Fitzgibbon in goals. Foley, O’Connor and Moynihan have all gone to new levels and are now certain starters. Foley and O’Connor’s progression are huge boosts considering they are operating in 2 key positions we were struggling a bit in. White has maintained his attacking quality while really improving his tackling and overall defending. Beaglaoich has also improved due to his physical development. I think we have learned an awful lot from this league and are in a very good position coming into championship. We have a very strong panel with very good competition for places.

[dano]

Spot On Whosinmidfield! The League was traditionally the place to find a few gems for the more important days in the Summer. Kerry definitely found a few this year. The Donegal Dublin affair ended as scripted. Kerry are still the only team that can beat the champions. Can't wait for the championship. They are going to have to let crowds go to matches

[taggert]

Jun 12, 2021 19:57:08 GMT gaelicden said:

2021 NFL Division 1 co-champions: Kerry & Dublin. Ryder Cup rules state current champion retains it, so Kerry are champions on that basis.

🤣

[blacksheep21]

What a joke of a game. Tyrone were clearly in challenge game mode. Another worthless game.

[givehimaball]

Jun 12, 2021 19:20:52 GMT taggert said:

Watching Dublin and Donegal, its like a different sport. A cure for insomnia I might add but light years removed from the naive and insipid displays by Tyrone today and Galway in round 1. Of little to no benefit to Kerry.

DaraM, Diarmuid and Paudie very good again. Spillane did well when he came on. 3 giveaway goals by the Tyrone keeper in what was a setup by Tyrone that theyvwould never deploy in a c'ship game.

I don't think there was all that much of a difference in Kerry's levels of performance against Galway, Dublin, Roscommon and Tyrone. The main reason for the differences in the scoreline between the games was the difference in how well the opposition teams performed defensively. Worth remembering Tyrone only avoided being in the relegaton playoff by the slimmest of margins.

Based on what I have seen of Clare their defensive structure is a lot more settled and organised that what we got from Tyrone or Galway - they conceded no goal in their three games against Kildare, Laois and Cork. Don't be surprised if they keep Mayo goal-less tomorrow.

[taggert]

Would agree. The more defensive the teams we face in Munster, the better prep for us down the line, assuming we get thru!

D'gal and Dublin styles are very alike except Dublin have more top class players and take far fewer risks. Dubs are all about working the high percentage chance (i.e. certain score) and almost always hit the 21 pt mark, their avg. in All Ireland finals.

We can only play and beat whats in front of us of course but hopefully it will steel is for the biggest tests later this summer. In truth, no kerry fan gives a flying *e about winning a Munster C'ship - its merely a pathway to a shot at the big prize.

[dc84]

Good win goals seemed to be the training mantra for this challenge game. We destroyed a poor Tyrone effortlessly really. Big job of work for them ahead in next four weeks their opponents are having a worse time though treleagated by Wicklow today. We will have to be at full throttle against clare though they are showing themselves to be as good as any (bar mayo probably) in div 2 and for all the talk of Ulster id have clare as good or better then 6 of them. Roll on 2 weeks time!

[ciarrai92]

Can we just address the elephant in the room.

Is it the case we are just going insanely good or that the calibre of teams we are coming up against this year in division 1 are way off the pace.

Of course in the case of Tyrone they are a team in transition since Micky Heart is gone (so alot to build on and work with)

So are we streets ahead of the other teams because these league games are no indication to how good we are or how bad the opposition team are.

[taggert]

The standard in football is poor - Dublin cruising, with 1 relatively tough game a year.
Then Kerry, Donegal on a good day. Mayo are gone, in transition. Ty may come good again.
V avg privincial winners in Munster and Ulster in 2020, a feeble Mayo in final. Standard is cat.

[Whosinmidfield]

Jun 12, 2021 21:41:24 GMT ciarrai92 said:

Can we just address the elephant in the room.

Is it the case we are just going insanely good or that the calibre of teams we are coming up against this year in division 1 are way off the pace.

Of course in the case of Tyrone they are a team in transition since Micky Heart is gone (so alot to build on and work with)

So are we streets ahead of the other teams because these league games are no indication to how good we are or how bad the opposition team are.

We destroyed Galway yet they then managed to beat Roscommon and keep it respectable against Dublin. All Tyrone’s games in the North section were extremely tight yet we dismantled them easily in the first 15 minutes. I think it’s a case of our attacking talent is so good, we will destroy any team that doesn’t have a well organised defensive structure that has plenty of cover. Any team facing us at business time will try and give us the least amount of space possible, we haven’t really faced that yet which is a bit of a worry. To face Dublin we’re actually in a very good place because they won’t go totally defensive and negative, but another team along the way will probably throw that at us.

[ciarrai92]

Jun 12, 2021 22:40:56 GMT Whosinmidfield said:

Jun 12, 2021 21:41:24 GMT ciarrai92 said:

Can we just address the elephant in the room.

Is it the case we are just going insanely good or that the calibre of teams we are coming up against this year in division 1 are way off the pace.

Of course in the case of Tyrone they are a team in transition since Micky Heart is gone (so alot to build on and work with)

So are we streets ahead of the other teams because these league games are no indication to how good we are or how bad the opposition team are.

We destroyed Galway yet they then managed to beat Roscommon and keep it respectable against Dublin. All Tyrone’s games in the North section were extremely tight yet we dismantled them easily in the first 15 minutes. I think it’s a case of our attacking talent is so good, we will destroy any team that doesn’t have a well organised defensive structure that has plenty of cover. Any team facing us at business time will try and give us the least amount of space possible, we haven’t really faced that yet which is a bit of a worry. To face Dublin we’re actually in a very good place because they won’t go totally defensive and negative, but another team along the way will probably throw that at us.

I guess I'm a little bit anxious again going into Munster championship and having a repeat of last year. It the grand scheme of things we are taking good chances and are going very well against the likes of the bigger teams . Again I don't know did Dublin take the foot off the pedal in that game or did Kerry stand up to the challenge because Kerry were dead in the water in that 1st half against Dublin but came out the traps in the second half mad for blood .

I suppose what I'm getting at is I'm extremely happy about winning these games but I'm still on the fence in regards the opposition we face as they are no where near what they should be

Is that down to physicality / league jitters Or are we that good

[royalkerryfan]

I criticised lads for posting rumours here before so forgive me.. but there are rumours circulating that Cluxton wont be returning. Ofcourse it could be nonsense but you heard it hear first.

[sullyschoice]

Jun 12, 2021 23:17:43 GMT royalkerryfan said:

I criticised lads for posting rumours here before so forgive me.. but there are rumours circulating that Cluxton wont be returning. Ofcourse it could be nonsense but you heard it hear first.

I posted that about two weeks ago.

[trevor73]

Disappointed to read some of the negativity on here
I always found that in the media every time Kerry thrashed someone over the years the narrative was always the other side didn’t turn up. Kerry have now hammered both Galway and Tyrone. I’d be less cynical than some of you and think this Kerry team is playing some terrific football. Despite giving Dublin some incredibly soft goals we also played some damn fine attacking play against them. The glass is definitely half full in my estimation

[Premier]

Jun 13, 2021 3:53:05 GMT trevor73 said:

Disappointed to read some of the negativity on here
I always found that in the media every time Kerry thrashed someone over the years the narrative was always the other side didn’t turn up. Kerry have now hammered both Galway and Tyrone. I’d be less cynical than some of you and think this Kerry team is playing some terrific football. Despite giving Dublin some incredibly soft goals we also played some damn fine attacking play against them. The glass is definitely half full in my estimation

Agree with this, it’s always easier to come on here and say ‘the standard is cat’ than actually praise any good performances. There wasn’t too many hammerings handed out in Div 1 and Kerry gave out 2 of them. Kerry scored 6 goals and could very easily have had 10. Sean O’Shea’s assists must be through the roof, would love if the GAA kept a record of this stuff like they do in soccer. The emergence of Foley as the full back has probably been the best story out of the league. Brian Begley was very good again today breaking the line coming out of defence, you’d still wonder what he would be like one on one inside with his man if he has to play as a conventional corner back. Mike Breen's passing was extremely good, I don’t think it would be enough to get Paul Murphy out of the team but they have very similar traits with regard to the standard of their kick passing. Micheal Burns once again showed why he should be given more game time, I can never fathom how other so-called wing forwards are on ahead of him.

[carthalawn]

Kerry’s game plan this year is about tempo and transitioning at pace. Very noticeable yesterday - Tyrone just could not live with Kerry’s pace. Our timing and intensity were excellent. In general our support play has moved up a gear - getting the right runner on the ball at the right time. A lot to be positive about. Real depth to the squad.

[mike70]

You can only beat what’s in front of you and Kerry did that yesterday in a comprehensive manner. You can analysis the reasons all day, but you firstly look at your own attributes, Kerry are in the best shape ever, their stamina is brilliant, S&C coach take a bow, we also have set up like dublin, very defensive at times, but the transition at pace is frightening. Yesterday we were winning 90% of the personal battles one on one, this also led to our dominance of the game. Tyrone, a team in transition, their management will have learnt a few hard lessons yesterday about top level intercounty, you need a defensive plan, a lot of work to do, morgan had a nightmare. I did think that Tyrone did give us a few problems at times, take the goals out of it 15 to 14 points each, I think they have material to work on. Onwards for Kerry with the first real resistant not been met till all ireland semi final, the question by then will the other teams close the gap physically to counter our game, time will tell, roll on the championship. #kerryhasgottalent

[kot]

My one main takeaway from yesterday is a takeaway I have had for a few years..... Niall Morgan is probably one of the most overrated players to ever Gaelic football.
If i was a Tyrone person, I would be crying out for him to be dropped.

[Kerryman Randy Savage]

Jun 13, 2021 9:09:29 GMT mike70 said:

You can only beat what’s in front of you and Kerry did that yesterday in a comprehensive manner. You can analysis the reasons all day, but you firstly look at your own attributes, Kerry are in the best shape ever, their stamina is brilliant, S&C coach take a bow, we also have set up like dublin, very defensive at times, but the transition at pace is frightening. Yesterday we were winning 90% of the personal battles one on one, this also led to our dominance of the game. Tyrone, a team in transition, their management will have learnt a few hard lessons yesterday about top level intercounty, you need a defensive plan, a lot of work to do, morgan had a nightmare. I did think that Tyrone did give us a few problems at times, take the goals out of it 15 to 14 points each, I think they have material to work on. Onwards for Jerry with the first real resistant not been met till all ireland semi final, the question by them will the other teams close the gap physically to counter our game, time will tell, roll on the championship. #kerryhasgottalent

I think the interchange and workrate is incredible. At one stage Moynihan intercepted at the full back line on a Tyrone attack. Tyrone were major architects in their downfall though. Like Galway hard to gauge our true position after this game

[veteran]

Well, that was a strange one. The late Conor Cruise O'Brien once coined the acronym GUBU in relation to the machinations of Charlie Haughey- grotesque, unbelievable, bizarre, unprecedented. He may well have been anticipating yesterday's match. It maybe that Tyrone were holding back a little in anticipation of the impending Ulster championship although some of their mean spirited tackling , including head high challenges which earned Tadgh Morley a recent red card, would suggest otherwise. I am inclined to the view that they were rattled to their foundations by Kerry's blistering movement, resulting in a cascade of goals, not unlike what Kerry experienced against Dublin. The difference being that Kerry were able to reassemble and flourish in the second half against Dublin whereas Tyrone's second half resistance and comeback was of the partial variety.

After conceding a dubious penalty, expertly propelled home by you know who, it appeared that the Tyrone defenders largely laid down their tools. The barn door was left wide open and unattended and while the mercurial Niall Morgan did not join the picket line he was afflicted by some moments of madness to which he has always been prone. Regardless, of the wayward attitude of the Tyrone defenders, even the greatest doubters will have to concede that the attacking play of Kerry was mesmerising at times. You see, every one of those boys are natural forwards. Give them enough , fast ball and watch the scores accumulate. The secret lies further back. Cut off the opposing forwards and convert defence to incisive attack in blink of any eyelid. In other words , dispense with negativity and all that around the garden path , pass the parcel idiocy.

All the goals were easy on the eye but one must comment on Gavin's effort. How often have we seen obscenely paid soccer players attempt without success what Gavin audaciously achieved yesterday? Of course , he knows the dimensions of that stadium backwards. Talking about Gavin, like so many of his colleagues, he has put on the muscle which helps his game enormously. The same can be said about Brian O'Beaghlaigh, without sacrificing his pace. The only time Brian will struggle is against a physically imposing opponent and in that case management will need to deploy him judiciously. One incident yesterday remains in my mind when Brian , starting a run well behind his opponent, speeded past him to collect. With that ambition and determination things happen

Jason played yesterday like the first time I saw him, in that epic minor game against Cork in Tralee which went to extra time. Totally in command. Like a lot of his teammates has got much stronger. Of course there was never a doubt about Jason. It was just a matter of time. Number three is his position. That is where he learned his trade.

Tom O'Sullivan , so rusty against Roscommon , hinted yesterday that the real Tom is about to stand up. Also, wisely he is now inclined to pay more attention to his primary duties.

Diarmuid continues his development at midfield . Adrian did not appear to be that prominent but he seems to be one of those guys whose hard work is not apparent on TV, being appreciated only by those present. He is inclined to get involved in a bit of tomfoolery which only results in a loss of concentration. A word from management would not go amiss.

It would be hard to find fault with any of the forwards, including the substitutes, all of whom made a contribution. While it is only a bagatelle, one wonders what was the point of keeping David on for the entire game. In the same vein, would it not have been informative to have Eoghan O'Brien in the subs yesterday and bring him on at half time when the game was in the bag. The goalie situation is bordering on mystery land.

Certainly, the NFL has been informative and productive for us. Irrespective of the opposition's quality and attitude, it has demonstrated that our future lies in positive, attacking football. Indeed , that is where Kerry football always has prospered. It has also introduced us to some exciting , new prospects, most notably Paudie Clifford. Of course most of us would have been aware of his credentials for the past year or two. Management , it seems, were blind to his attributes but we forgive. Mike Breen looked yesterday as if he has been playing at this level for the past year, physical, confident, mature and adventurous. We have seen far less of Joe O'Connor but he is another big boy who seems to have the stomach and the temperament for this level. Kieran Fitsgibbon, our replacement goalie, has gained invaluable experience. His kickouts have improved and he seems to be far more confident when soloing out with the ball than Shane Ryan. On the other hand, he seemed to have been unnecessarily off his line when the Tyrone goal was scored. Looking back over the campaign, I cannot recall him having to deal with a high ball so I am not sure how good he is in that department. The aforementioned Niall Morgan made a hash of one of those yesterday.

Now of course, Paul Geaney can scarcely be described as a newcomer but he has displayed over the campaign, what some of us suspected, that there is still a kick in him. Time, that pitiless entity, has left a mark but the class, with which he has been extravagantly endowed, remains undimmed.

In summary, regardless of the strength of the opposition, this is one for the memory bank. In that respect, I wonder if somebody with the expertise could add it to our video repository. Mickmack, our usual archivist, seems to be after hanging up his boots and hurley. Mickmack, get back here. A lot of footballers and hurlers regret their premature retirement. Some of us feel you still have a lot to offer, even a bit of devilment.

[dc84]

Great post as per usual Veteran! On Fitzgibbon I think his kickouts particularly the short ones are better than Ryan's caught out for the goal alright but other than that he has done fine. It's great that a few more of the younger lads are stepping up its easy to forget that foley, Tom sull, o connor ,o shea and clifford are all under 23 I think ?

Foley owns the 3 jersey now where does Morley and Murphy fit in now I think Tadgh should make up the full backline with Jason and Tom. Then there is some competition in half backline white,beaglaoich, Murphy, Crowley,Breen all have good shouts. Imo we have to start at least one of Crowley or Breen the rest are similar a bit on the smaller side interesting times ah3ad

[onlykerry]

Still trying to work out our panel.

The 26 named for this weekends game plus Paul Murphy, David Moran, Shane Ryan, Morley, Brosnan and O Donoghue gives 32. Eoin O Brien being mentioned as being part of the squad since R2 but no sign of him appearing in a squad so not sure if he is in or not.

Very hard to see either James O Donoghue or David Shaw being involved this year come championship given the short campaign and the lack of opportunity for either to get up to pace.

With several young players really putting their hands up with consistent performances this league the competition for places will be strong and making a match day panel will be an achievement for many.

Great to see this level of competition from a county perspective but tough on the players fighting for jersey on match days.

[dc84]

Jun 13, 2021 12:23:11 GMT onlykerry said:

Still trying to work out our panel.

The 26 named for this weekends game plus Paul Murphy, David Moran, Shane Ryan, Morley, Brosnan and O Donoghue gives 32. Eoin O Brien being mentioned as being part of the squad since R2 but no sign of him appearing in a squad so not sure if he is in or not.

Very hard to see either James O Donoghue or David Shaw being involved this year come championship given the short campaign and the lack of opportunity for either to get up to pace.

With several young players really putting their hands up with consistent performances this league the competition for places will be strong and making a match day panel will be an achievement for many.

Great to see this level of competition from a county perspective but tough on the players fighting for jersey on match days.

Its what we need Excatly like yesterday no let up for 80 mins and if we get ahead go for the kill and keep going , we left a bit behind us yesterday I know we won handy but should have been more