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Post by blacksheep21 on May 15, 2021 20:05:54 GMT
Galway were shocking and their performance renders any analysis of Kerry’s performance completely pointless.
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Post by Mickmack on May 15, 2021 20:07:35 GMT
Its concerning for football to see Galway so abject. No heart, no workrate and practicing social distancing like they did made in easy for Kerry.
When a team dominates so much and can play perfect ball into the forwards of the calibre Kerry had today then a cricket score is on the cards.
Galway dont play Roscommon till 4.7.21 in the championship so they werent pulling punches in anticipation of that.
The game next weekend v Dublin will tell us more about where Kerry are.
SOS footballing brain very evident today as a provider of scoring chances. DC has filled out. I hope the hype isnt overblown now after today. The brother Paudie looks like he is anxious to seize his opportunity this year.
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Post by ataboy on May 15, 2021 20:50:02 GMT
PK & Co can reflect on a job well done but the folly of last years negative approach vs Cork was painfully exposed today. Starting the game on the front foot and playing quick ball into a goal hungry forward line advertised all thats good about how we play and the forwards did the rest; our defence too was solid, but bigger tests lie ahead. Paul Geaney was probably the poorest of our starting sextet and will be most under pressure to start next weekend - Tommy Walsh has played himself into contention and will along with Stephen O'Brien & Tony Brosnan apply pressure for a starting role. A good start, lots of positives to take away. I think Paul Geaney will be expected to play a different role this year. He’s there for his foot passing, tackling fielding and general leadership. I wouldn’t be expecting him to be kicking a rake of points this year. I actually think it’s a progressive move that you are putting a talented player in the working role if they know the work will be put in I'm not so sure, I don't think that role suits Paul Geaney. If he's to play deeper he would be effective centrally but today in a wider position I can't see that working. That's suited more so to the likes of SOB. I still think he can be a major threat inside but obviously with the form of Killian Spillane there's a lot more competition there now.
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Post by ataboy on May 15, 2021 20:51:40 GMT
Its concerning for football to see Galway so abject. No heart, no workrate and practicing social distancing like they did made in easy for Kerry. When a team dominates so much and can play perfect ball into the forwards of the calibre Kerry had today then a cricket score is on the cards. Galway dont play Roscommon till 4.7.21 in the championship so they werent pulling punches in anticipation of that. The game next weekend v Dublin will tell us more about where Kerry are. SOS footballing brain very evident today as a provider of scoring chances. DC has filled out. I hope the hype isnt overblown now after today. The brother Paudie looks like he is anxious to seize his opportunity this year. SOS outstanding football brain and add K Spillane to that too. Nearly always makes the right decision. You can't coach that
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Post by onlykerry on May 15, 2021 20:52:44 GMT
Good win against poor opposition - The stat that Galway have lost their last three games by an average of 14 points should temper exuberant readers.
Some real positives including the blooding of new players along with the form of several players including some of the older warriors. Being critical (which we need to be) we missed 3-4 excellent goal chances against poor opposition. In the tight battles the conversion rate will be critical and this is something that needs improvement. We know we can beat 29/30 counties most days (when we don't implode and give it away) and the team need to continue to work on their conversion rate for those close encounters ahead.
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Post by Mickmack on May 15, 2021 20:56:33 GMT
The kick passing by Kerry was excellent today and they looked to use it as a first option too.
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Post by john4 on May 15, 2021 21:03:03 GMT
While the attitude and execution of today's performance was brilliant in so many different aspects, I'd still be concerned that management might think that this approach can be switched on and off in future matches and only to be called upon where required.
I hope we don't revert to an overly cautiously defensive set up in the face of tougher opposition. Today's approach is the approach best suited to us. Even our defenders seem to have this natural instinct to attack. We have to continue to play to our strengths and our strengths were on display today.
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Post by pillar on May 15, 2021 21:30:32 GMT
One contrast seen today as opposed to the Cork game.Paudie Clifford was on the defending 45 with Kerry having broken up a rare Galway attack.The ball was worked up quickly to the attacking half with Darragh Moynihan having possession on the D.Who was running at an angle to receive the off the shoulder pass,Paudie,who proceeded to ram it home for a goal.Point being its ok to be in a defensive position but then you must make 70 yard run to join in the transition to attack.Players didn't do that enough against Cork.Looks devastating when you do.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 15, 2021 22:14:13 GMT
I took the dog for along walk after that, had already decided to put the cork on the bottle for the summer to shed Covid kilos not lbs, I'm not a liar. Then I read the comments here, there are pretty good and a few classics ala who was it that is expecting to see Dwyer running up and down the side line ala 70s/80s.
Know-all that I am I always said, and believed, that this was the best band of players I have ever seen in any GAA code, now not that I am much of a judge and obviously wasn't even at the game, but everyone is entitled to their say and that was mine.
There will be bigger obstacles but we have the ammo.
What a day to be of Kerry!
PS I know we shouldn't get carried away here but part of Galways lacklustre performance was down to us blowing them away. Spare resources may have been allocated to Walsh, Commer and lár na páirce that put the tin hat on it. I had pity on Comer as he was trying so hard, are we're entitled to mellow a bit?
PS2 O'Baoglaigh may even have been trying too hard and which had him see black, is competition that intense, maybe too much? Also was it first time both CFs were brothers, did I hear right that Paul'6 is also 1st cousin?
Paudie was good but he now needs to tag on a few more and with any debutant and it is great to see forwards acting so selflessly, SO'6 in particular, Dubs will be replaying the video gan dabht.
BTW Examiner headline Friday was 'Padraic Joyce’s return trip to a favourite learning ground' - wow!
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on May 16, 2021 2:26:26 GMT
Great performance in general. Some promising signs ... most pleasing thing from my perspective was the hunger of all the panel .. big impacts from the bench also .. Graham OSullivan, Paul OShea, Tommy Walsh were really really energetic after entry. Killian Spillane , Jason Foley, Brian O’Beglioch all look like they have found an extra gear which I think we all hoped for and felt was in them but this year I really feel it’s here
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Post by jackiel on May 16, 2021 9:08:49 GMT
What struck me was that some of the lads physique has completely changed since I last saw them. The S & C work they were doing during lockdown has obviously paid off.
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Post by veteran on May 16, 2021 10:11:26 GMT
Play to our strengths some of us exhorted after the debacle in Cork, meaning get the ball in as often and as fast as possible to our glittering forward line. We witnessed the outcome of that strategy yesterday, admittedly against a strangely anaemic Galway team. Playing to our strengths will not always bear fruit but it will mean, at a minimum, dying with your boots on. That is always an honourable conclusion.. The converse is playing to the opposition's strength. It wouldn't be easy to convince me that is a prudent policy. We saw the outcome of that madness in Cork. Never again is the hope.
The difference between yesterday's match and the corresponding game last year was sensational. Galway sparkled that day and we engaged in daylight robbery, admittedly enacted at night, by snatching victory as our death rattles echoed around Austin Stack Park. A large reason for the discrepancy between the games, very likely, is that Galway contained too many novices with insufficient physical development and stagecraft. Allied to this you had the aforementioned relentlessly positive attitude of the Kerry lads. Inevitably, most of the Galway team became paralysed , resulting in excuse me tackles and semidetached marking. No wonder then that we created mayhem. I feel in a nutshell that is the story of the game.
The game wasn't on too long when it became obvious that Kerry were in a boisterous mood, bearing no resemblance to the sombre disposition of the pre Christmas outing. A fanatical work principle allied to long , accurate foot passing meant that defensive mode was transformed into attacking mode in the blink of an eyelid. When that happens, anything can happen at the other end and it did happen and more could have happened but for a Galway goalie who was blessed with good fortune rather than good technique.
So dominant were Kerry that most of the players were able to master their direct opponent and indeed the substitutes did not weaken the system. It must be stressed of course that the Galway resistance was no more than token and that non resistance has to be paramount when evaluating yesterday's romp. Still, so depressed were we after the Cork game we are entitled to luxuriate in the glow of this victory for a few days before the cold prospect of the Dublin game jerks us back to reality.
A few individuals are worth mentioning. In the guise of Brian O'Baoglaigh I think Shane Walsh met his luciferian opponent. He just could not get rid of him. It wasn't until Brian got his harsh black card did Shane get his only score from play, a glorious point it was. I have always been a fan of Brian. He is fast, tenacious, fiery and a good ball player. He needs all those attributes because he is a little compromised physically but he is not compromised in any other way I can assure you.
Tadgh Morley is a man who often looks as if he is hanging on by his fingernails, yet he never seems to drown. He met a difficult opponent yesterday in Damien Comer and he did not wilt. Admittedly, Damien was living off crumbs.
Jack Barry? Jack should be peaking now but his progress seems to have stalled, principally I think because of lack of confidence. I am convinced he has loads of ability but he is doing best to conceal it. He has this tendency to take an easy pass, give an easy, lazy pass, make a half hearted burst and then put on the brakes and pass or kick backwards. Typical of his lack of belief yesterday was when he cut through, he frequently did that in his early days, but finished by kicking a feeble, tentative ball into the goalie's hands. Perhaps, Mr. Falvey, our mountain climbing friend, could take him in hand, otherwise I would advocate a few runs for Adrian Spillane, a man who seems to be full of running and vigour with no lack of confidence. You don't lack confidence if you are a Spllane.
Paudie Clifford? I know I am repeating myself here. Paudie was outstanding yesterday and it is conceivable he may never again be as good. That is not the point. Anybody who has seen East Kerry over the past couple of years would likely conclude that Paudie , if not the most consistently outstanding player over those campaigns, was close to being. Allied to that were his displays for the Kerry juniors. Yet he got about two minutes of game time against Cork. For God sake, is he not the prototype of the modern wing forward- insatiable appetite for work , boundless energy with a penchant for making and taking a score. I know it is water under the bridge now but I find it hard forgive management for that oversight.
Finally, what is the story about the injury to Shane Ryan? A day or two before the team was announced, EastKerry Warrior was able to tell us that Shane would be out. Yet he was included in the announced team. I dearly wish management would cut out that tomfoolery. And then Brendan Kealy is called out of retirement as backup? Were we reduced to that? Where is Eoghan O'Brien and the other active club goalies?
In any case, irrespective of my two final paragraphs, I will joyously conclude. Mood is lifted, for a week at least.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 16, 2021 10:39:07 GMT
Play to our strengths some of us exhorted after the debacle in Cork, meaning get the ball in as often and as fast as possible to our glittering forward line. We witnessed the outcome of that strategy yesterday, admittedly against a strangely anaemic Galway team. Playing to our strengths will not always bear fruit but it will mean, at a minimum, dying with your boots on. That is always an honourable conclusion.. The converse is playing to the opposition's strength. It wouldn't be easy to convince me that is a prudent policy. We saw the outcome of that madness in Cork. Never again is the hope. The difference between yesterday's match and the corresponding game last year was sensational. Galway sparkled that day and we engaged in daylight robbery, admittedly enacted at night, by snatching victory as our death rattles echoed around Austin Stack Park. A large reason for the discrepancy between the games, very likely, is that Galway contained too many novices with insufficient physical development and stagecraft. Allied to this you had the aforementioned relentlessly positive attitude of the Kerry lads. Inevitably, most of the Galway team became paralysed , resulting in excuse me tackles and semidetached marking. No wonder then that we created mayhem. I feel in a nutshell that is the story of the game. The game wasn't on too long when it became obvious that Kerry were in a boisterous mood, bearing no resemblance to the sombre disposition of the pre Christmas outing. A fanatical work principle allied to long , accurate foot passing meant that defensive mode was transformed into attacking mode in the blink of an eyelid. When that happens, anything can happen at the other end and it did happen and more could have happened but for a Galway goalie who was blessed with good fortune rather than good technique. So dominant were Kerry that most of the players were able to master their direct opponent and indeed the substitutes did not weaken the system. It must be stressed of course that the Galway resistance was no more than token and that non resistance has to be paramount when evaluating yesterday's romp. Still, so depressed were we after the Cork game we are entitled to luxuriate in the glow of this victory for a few days before the cold prospect of the Dublin game jerks us back to reality. A few individuals are worth mentioning. In the guise of Brian O'Baoglaigh I think Shane Walsh met his luciferian opponent. He just could not get rid of him. It wasn't until Brian got his harsh black card did Shane get his only score from play, a glorious point it was. I have always been a fan of Brian. He is fast, tenacious, fiery and a good ball player. He needs all those attributes because he is a little compromised physically but he is not compromised in any other way I can assure you. Tadgh Morley is a man who often looks as if he is hanging on by his fingernails, yet he never seems to drown. He met a difficult opponent yesterday in Damien Comer and he did not wilt. Admittedly, Damien was living off crumbs. Jack Barry? Jack should be peaking now but his progress seems to have stalled, principally I think because of lack of confidence. I am convinced he has loads of ability but he is doing best to conceal it. He has this tendency to take an easy pass, give an easy, lazy pass, make a half hearted burst and then put on the brakes and pass or kick backwards. Typical of his lack of belief yesterday was when he cut through, he frequently did that in his early days, but finished by kicking a feeble, tentative ball into the goalie's hands. Perhaps, Mr. Falvey, our mountain climbing friend, could take him in hand, otherwise I would advocate a few runs for Adrian Spillane, a man who seems to be full of running and vigour with no lack of confidence. You don't lack confidence if you are a Spllane. Paudie Clifford? I know I am repeating myself here. Paudie was outstanding yesterday and it is conceivable he may never again be as good. That is not the point. Anybody who has seen East Kerry over the past couple of years would likely conclude that Paudie , if not the most consistently outstanding player over those campaigns, was close to being. Allied to that were his displays for the Kerry juniors. Yet he got about two minutes of game time against Cork. For God sake, is he not the prototype of the modern wing forward- insatiable appetite for work , boundless energy with a penchant for making and taking a score. I know it is water under the bridge now but I find it hard forgive management for that oversight. Finally, what is the story about the injury to Shane Ryan? A day or two before the team was announced, EastKerry Warrior was able to tell us that Shane would be out. Yet he was included in the announced team. I dearly wish management would cut out that tomfoolery. And then Brendan Kealy is called out of retirement as backup? Were we reduced to that? Where is Eoghan O'Brien and the other active club goalies? In any case, irrespective of my two final paragraphs, I will joyously conclude. Mood is lifted, for a week at least. Great piece veteran, Really enjoyable Sunday read. My sincere hope is that if supporters get back to games later in the summer that you get a much sought after ticket.
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Post by crokes86 on May 16, 2021 11:29:05 GMT
No point reading too much into this good piece veteran. Here’s the deal . Galway were terrible. A lot of these Kerry guys were made look good yesterday. It wasn’t a test .
It’s good to always get a win in your first game of the year. I’m disappointed that we are not trying newer players especially in midfield and the backs .
Moran is coming to the end and we need to find a replacement . It’s still early Dublin will be a good test
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 16, 2021 11:37:38 GMT
No point reading too much into this good piece veteran. Here’s the deal . Galway were terrible. A lot of these Kerry guys were made look good yesterday. It wasn’t a test . It’s good to always get a win in your first game of the year. I’m disappointed that we are not trying newer players especially in midfield and the backs . Moran is coming to the end and we need to find a replacement . It’s still early Dublin will be a good test While I agree regarding not reading into the game something I did to my cost last year after Donegal I disagree regarding trying new players. The time for experiments is over we need a settled team and while DM is getting on he still has a role to play.
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Post by ataboy on May 16, 2021 13:17:55 GMT
Play to our strengths some of us exhorted after the debacle in Cork, meaning get the ball in as often and as fast as possible to our glittering forward line. We witnessed the outcome of that strategy yesterday, admittedly against a strangely anaemic Galway team. Playing to our strengths will not always bear fruit but it will mean, at a minimum, dying with your boots on. That is always an honourable conclusion.. The converse is playing to the opposition's strength. It wouldn't be easy to convince me that is a prudent policy. We saw the outcome of that madness in Cork. Never again is the hope. The difference between yesterday's match and the corresponding game last year was sensational. Galway sparkled that day and we engaged in daylight robbery, admittedly enacted at night, by snatching victory as our death rattles echoed around Austin Stack Park. A large reason for the discrepancy between the games, very likely, is that Galway contained too many novices with insufficient physical development and stagecraft. Allied to this you had the aforementioned relentlessly positive attitude of the Kerry lads. Inevitably, most of the Galway team became paralysed , resulting in excuse me tackles and semidetached marking. No wonder then that we created mayhem. I feel in a nutshell that is the story of the game. The game wasn't on too long when it became obvious that Kerry were in a boisterous mood, bearing no resemblance to the sombre disposition of the pre Christmas outing. A fanatical work principle allied to long , accurate foot passing meant that defensive mode was transformed into attacking mode in the blink of an eyelid. When that happens, anything can happen at the other end and it did happen and more could have happened but for a Galway goalie who was blessed with good fortune rather than good technique. So dominant were Kerry that most of the players were able to master their direct opponent and indeed the substitutes did not weaken the system. It must be stressed of course that the Galway resistance was no more than token and that non resistance has to be paramount when evaluating yesterday's romp. Still, so depressed were we after the Cork game we are entitled to luxuriate in the glow of this victory for a few days before the cold prospect of the Dublin game jerks us back to reality. A few individuals are worth mentioning. In the guise of Brian O'Baoglaigh I think Shane Walsh met his luciferian opponent. He just could not get rid of him. It wasn't until Brian got his harsh black card did Shane get his only score from play, a glorious point it was. I have always been a fan of Brian. He is fast, tenacious, fiery and a good ball player. He needs all those attributes because he is a little compromised physically but he is not compromised in any other way I can assure you. Tadgh Morley is a man who often looks as if he is hanging on by his fingernails, yet he never seems to drown. He met a difficult opponent yesterday in Damien Comer and he did not wilt. Admittedly, Damien was living off crumbs. Jack Barry? Jack should be peaking now but his progress seems to have stalled, principally I think because of lack of confidence. I am convinced he has loads of ability but he is doing best to conceal it. He has this tendency to take an easy pass, give an easy, lazy pass, make a half hearted burst and then put on the brakes and pass or kick backwards. Typical of his lack of belief yesterday was when he cut through, he frequently did that in his early days, but finished by kicking a feeble, tentative ball into the goalie's hands. Perhaps, Mr. Falvey, our mountain climbing friend, could take him in hand, otherwise I would advocate a few runs for Adrian Spillane, a man who seems to be full of running and vigour with no lack of confidence. You don't lack confidence if you are a Spllane. Paudie Clifford? I know I am repeating myself here. Paudie was outstanding yesterday and it is conceivable he may never again be as good. That is not the point. Anybody who has seen East Kerry over the past couple of years would likely conclude that Paudie , if not the most consistently outstanding player over those campaigns, was close to being. Allied to that were his displays for the Kerry juniors. Yet he got about two minutes of game time against Cork. For God sake, is he not the prototype of the modern wing forward- insatiable appetite for work , boundless energy with a penchant for making and taking a score. I know it is water under the bridge now but I find it hard forgive management for that oversight. Finally, what is the story about the injury to Shane Ryan? A day or two before the team was announced, EastKerry Warrior was able to tell us that Shane would be out. Yet he was included in the announced team. I dearly wish management would cut out that tomfoolery. And then Brendan Kealy is called out of retirement as backup? Were we reduced to that? Where is Eoghan O'Brien and the other active club goalies? In any case, irrespective of my two final paragraphs, I will joyously conclude. Mood is lifted, for a week at least. Good post. Couple of points. On Begley, he's the type of player Kerry need but does he lose out when Tom O'Sullivan come back? On the keeper situation, my guess is that the management didn't want to face the embarrassment of naming a team on Friday with Fitzgibbon as no.1 and no sub keeper on the list. That is one disappointment, how do you only have 2 keepers on the panel? Keane and Co will have been on the phone straight away to a couple of keepers to get them in from next week on. Paudie Clifford should have featured in 2019, nevermind last year. Yes move on now, but it shouldn't have taken that long to get him in as an option. Half backs were played at half forward and he wasn't even in the squad. Mad! Whether we like it or not, David Moran is key for Kerry. No one has stood up yet to push him out of the team. For this year, the aim should be for Diarmuid O'Connor or Spillane to come in for him with 20 minutes to go. That would be a success. As it's been well documentated here, the majority of his mistakes have come very late in games, Monaghan 2018, Dublin 2019 and Cork 2020 after playing 70 mins plus. Hopefully management have taken note of this.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on May 16, 2021 14:41:42 GMT
Play to our strengths some of us exhorted after the debacle in Cork, meaning get the ball in as often and as fast as possible to our glittering forward line. We witnessed the outcome of that strategy yesterday, admittedly against a strangely anaemic Galway team. Playing to our strengths will not always bear fruit but it will mean, at a minimum, dying with your boots on. That is always an honourable conclusion.. The converse is playing to the opposition's strength. It wouldn't be easy to convince me that is a prudent policy. We saw the outcome of that madness in Cork. Never again is the hope. The difference between yesterday's match and the corresponding game last year was sensational. Galway sparkled that day and we engaged in daylight robbery, admittedly enacted at night, by snatching victory as our death rattles echoed around Austin Stack Park. A large reason for the discrepancy between the games, very likely, is that Galway contained too many novices with insufficient physical development and stagecraft. Allied to this you had the aforementioned relentlessly positive attitude of the Kerry lads. Inevitably, most of the Galway team became paralysed , resulting in excuse me tackles and semidetached marking. No wonder then that we created mayhem. I feel in a nutshell that is the story of the game. The game wasn't on too long when it became obvious that Kerry were in a boisterous mood, bearing no resemblance to the sombre disposition of the pre Christmas outing. A fanatical work principle allied to long , accurate foot passing meant that defensive mode was transformed into attacking mode in the blink of an eyelid. When that happens, anything can happen at the other end and it did happen and more could have happened but for a Galway goalie who was blessed with good fortune rather than good technique. So dominant were Kerry that most of the players were able to master their direct opponent and indeed the substitutes did not weaken the system. It must be stressed of course that the Galway resistance was no more than token and that non resistance has to be paramount when evaluating yesterday's romp. Still, so depressed were we after the Cork game we are entitled to luxuriate in the glow of this victory for a few days before the cold prospect of the Dublin game jerks us back to reality. A few individuals are worth mentioning. In the guise of Brian O'Baoglaigh I think Shane Walsh met his luciferian opponent. He just could not get rid of him. It wasn't until Brian got his harsh black card did Shane get his only score from play, a glorious point it was. I have always been a fan of Brian. He is fast, tenacious, fiery and a good ball player. He needs all those attributes because he is a little compromised physically but he is not compromised in any other way I can assure you. Tadgh Morley is a man who often looks as if he is hanging on by his fingernails, yet he never seems to drown. He met a difficult opponent yesterday in Damien Comer and he did not wilt. Admittedly, Damien was living off crumbs. Jack Barry? Jack should be peaking now but his progress seems to have stalled, principally I think because of lack of confidence. I am convinced he has loads of ability but he is doing best to conceal it. He has this tendency to take an easy pass, give an easy, lazy pass, make a half hearted burst and then put on the brakes and pass or kick backwards. Typical of his lack of belief yesterday was when he cut through, he frequently did that in his early days, but finished by kicking a feeble, tentative ball into the goalie's hands. Perhaps, Mr. Falvey, our mountain climbing friend, could take him in hand, otherwise I would advocate a few runs for Adrian Spillane, a man who seems to be full of running and vigour with no lack of confidence. You don't lack confidence if you are a Spllane. Paudie Clifford? I know I am repeating myself here. Paudie was outstanding yesterday and it is conceivable he may never again be as good. That is not the point. Anybody who has seen East Kerry over the past couple of years would likely conclude that Paudie , if not the most consistently outstanding player over those campaigns, was close to being. Allied to that were his displays for the Kerry juniors. Yet he got about two minutes of game time against Cork. For God sake, is he not the prototype of the modern wing forward- insatiable appetite for work , boundless energy with a penchant for making and taking a score. I know it is water under the bridge now but I find it hard forgive management for that oversight. Finally, what is the story about the injury to Shane Ryan? A day or two before the team was announced, EastKerry Warrior was able to tell us that Shane would be out. Yet he was included in the announced team. I dearly wish management would cut out that tomfoolery. And then Brendan Kealy is called out of retirement as backup? Were we reduced to that? Where is Eoghan O'Brien and the other active club goalies? In any case, irrespective of my two final paragraphs, I will joyously conclude. Mood is lifted, for a week at least. Good post. Couple of points. On Begley, he's the type of player Kerry need but does he lose out when Tom O'Sullivan come back? On the keeper situation, my guess is that the management didn't want to face the embarrassment of naming a team on Friday with Fitzgibbon as no.1 and no sub keeper on the list. That is one disappointment, how do you only have 2 keepers on the panel? Keane and Co will have been on the phone straight away to a couple of keepers to get them in from next week on. Paudie Clifford should have featured in 2019, nevermind last year. Yes move on now, but it shouldn't have taken that long to get him in as an option. Half backs were played at half forward and he wasn't even in the squad. Mad! Whether we like it or not, David Moran is key for Kerry. No one has stood up yet to push him out of the team. For this year, the aim should be for Diarmuid O'Connor or Spillane to come in for him with 20 minutes to go. That would be a success. As it's been well documentated here, the majority of his mistakes have come very late in games, Monaghan 2018, Dublin 2019 and Cork 2020 after playing 70 mins plus. Hopefully management have taken note of this. Beaglaoich was very very good yesterday but when Tom O’Sullivan is back I think he has to start. For me he is one of the very best corner backs in the country. I don’t think you can have those 2 in the 2 corners because they’re too similar, Foley who was was also very good yesterday is a better fit. We’ll see against Dublin and beyond but if Beaglaoich continues that form, I wonder could it be Gavin White who misses out? If we continue with playing 6 out and out forwards and getting the ball to them as a fast as possible like yesterday then defensive ability becomes even more important for defenders while carrying the ball and attacking becomes less important. That scenario least suits Gavin White who’s strengths are carrying the ball at pace while his main weakness is defending. Beaglaoich at wing back might suit that style better or even Sherwood who has to come into the equation yet. Interesting times ahead, lots of competition.
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Post by dano on May 16, 2021 16:59:32 GMT
Great Post Veteran. One of the things we all missed in the last year and a half. As I read the follow up posts It is becoming obvious that Kerry's defense woes, if everyone including Shane Ryan is fit, might be over. Galway were weak but their main danger men up front were held yesterday. A promising sign. With Tom OS, S Ryan and J Sherwood on the mend Kerry could have the luxury of Marquee backs as well as forwards. Dublin will pose a different challenge of course and a we'll know more next week. Great to have it back.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 16, 2021 17:29:17 GMT
A famine or a feast.
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Post by taggert on May 16, 2021 17:40:27 GMT
I'm more afraid of Kerry beating Dublin next week than Kerry losing yo Dublin. Several media pundits choosing to ignore Galways no show and hype up Kerry no end. Claiming the scalp of whatever Dublin team is put out next week, will only increase the hype and give the Dubs the motivational food and ammunition they will be craving later in the year.
Considering we cant make a league final even if we qualify - it clashes with the Clare c'ship game and in that case it would be joint winners, rather bizarrely - what are the merits in going all out next weekend? Who gains more from that, Dublin or Kerry? Just throwing it out there. Should we for example try Diarmuid OC in midfield or a few others here and there.
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Post by piggott on May 16, 2021 17:51:34 GMT
Nothing wrong with getting a win over them. Dublin's win over Kerry in Killarney February 2010 set them on their way. I would try and keep momentum going.
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Post by dc84 on May 16, 2021 17:58:56 GMT
I'm more afraid of Kerry beating Dublin next week than Kerry losing yo Dublin. Several media pundits choosing to ignore Galways no show and hype up Kerry no end. Claiming the scalp of whatever Dublin team is put out next week, will only increase the hype and give the Dubs the motivational food and ammunition they will be craving later in the year. Considering we cant make a league final even if we qualify - it clashes with the Clare c'ship game and in that case it would be joint winners, rather bizarrely - what are the merits in going all out next weekend? Who gains more from that, Dublin or Kerry? Just throwing it out there. Should we for example try Diarmuid OC in midfield or a few others here and there. There is no time really for shadow boxing its flat to the mat from here really, time enough for experiments against roscommon , a win over dublin would be a good confidence boost
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Post by dano on May 16, 2021 18:07:30 GMT
Absolutely. Dublin won't want to be beaten by Kerry either. Play the way they played Saturday, give them no break. These young players need the morale boost.
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Post by john4 on May 16, 2021 18:28:22 GMT
I'm more afraid of Kerry beating Dublin next week than Kerry losing yo Dublin. Several media pundits choosing to ignore Galways no show and hype up Kerry no end. Claiming the scalp of whatever Dublin team is put out next week, will only increase the hype and give the Dubs the motivational food and ammunition they will be craving later in the year. Considering we cant make a league final even if we qualify - it clashes with the Clare c'ship game and in that case it would be joint winners, rather bizarrely - what are the merits in going all out next weekend? Who gains more from that, Dublin or Kerry? Just throwing it out there. Should we for example try Diarmuid OC in midfield or a few others here and there. No disrespect intended, but this is exactly the mentality I feared, and it's only the day after already!!
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 16, 2021 18:53:55 GMT
You can't beat Dublin enough.
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Post by taggert on May 16, 2021 19:04:49 GMT
I'm more afraid of Kerry beating Dublin next week than Kerry losing yo Dublin. Several media pundits choosing to ignore Galways no show and hype up Kerry no end. Claiming the scalp of whatever Dublin team is put out next week, will only increase the hype and give the Dubs the motivational food and ammunition they will be craving later in the year. Considering we cant make a league final even if we qualify - it clashes with the Clare c'ship game and in that case it would be joint winners, rather bizarrely - what are the merits in going all out next weekend? Who gains more from that, Dublin or Kerry? Just throwing it out there. Should we for example try Diarmuid OC in midfield or a few others here and there. No disrespect intended, but this is exactly the mentality I feared, and it's only the day after already!! Not at all John, no offence taken. More referencing the fine line between confidence and believing all the hype. We certainly believed the hype last year! I've no doubt that we have the players to beat Dublin in the c'ship and genuinely believe we will later in the summer. Just not sure I want to be giving them ammo or insights to help their cause.
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Post by john4 on May 16, 2021 19:40:16 GMT
No disrespect intended, but this is exactly the mentality I feared, and it's only the day after already!! Not at all John, no offence taken. More referencing the fine line between confidence and believing all the hype. We certainly believed the hype last year! I've no doubt that we have the players to beat Dublin in the c'ship and genuinely believe we will later in the summer. Just not sure I want to be giving them ammo or insights to help their cause. The danger with assuming that you can switch this stuff on and off is that some day you'll find the switch is broken! ala Cork
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 16, 2021 19:51:17 GMT
Dublin were very comfortable today which should focus the minds very quickly.
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Post by taggert on May 16, 2021 19:54:07 GMT
I agree re the tap, but your comparison to last year is wrong as we pretty much selected the same team and formation right through the league last year and into the Cork game, a half fit SOB, seeing BoB at wing fwd, possibly the only real deviation.
Certainly in Dublin this morning at underage training, the GAA heads were thrilled with the overnight revival of the Kerry hype machine. Not unlike last year.
Anyway, you've made your point and I know your stance.
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Post by mossie on May 16, 2021 21:43:04 GMT
I agree re the tap, but your comparison to last year is wrong as we pretty much selected the same team and formation right through the league last year and into the Cork game, a half fit SOB, seeing BoB at wing fwd, possibly the only real deviation. Certainly in Dublin this morning at underage training, the GAA heads were thrilled with the overnight revival of the Kerry hype machine. Not unlike last year. Anyway, you've made your point and I know your stance. a win against Dublin in the league will not militate against our chances later in the year against them drive on and try win every match and dont be thinking about a match against Dublin that may or not arise later in 2021 Thinking about Dublin later in year and forgetting about more immediate business was part of the problem in the Cork cluster * last yar
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