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Post by dc84 on May 12, 2021 18:28:14 GMT
Probably best suited to the 2021 Season thread but here goes. How many of our backs would get on the Dublin team? 1 maybe 2? Not many more would get on the Mayo team. People whinge about successive managers playing a wing back or a midfielder in the forwards or whatever but the reality is that our backs are not good enough individually or collectively to be able to stop the top team when it comes to the crunch. So the people in the know with the best knowledge of the team have come up with various strategies for us to beat Dublin in Croke Park. The only time it worked was when Lyne and then Gavin Crowley played wing forward and fell back to help out the half back line in the 2017 league final. It almost worked in the 2016 semi final when Mahony played as a sweeper - we all know we were a brutal refereeing decision away from getting something from that game. It almost worked when we played 3 midfielders and 5 forwards in the 2019 final too. Summer football will mean Kerry will however not line out like they did against Cork last November when it was a team designed to take on a running team in a dogfight in bad conditions. Yes it ended up as a disaster but people forget for some reason that if Clifford and Seanie had been on form Kerry would have won that game by 6 or 7 points. The key there is your last line to expect two forwards both 21/22 to completely carry the scoring threat is lunacy. I think the 3 midfielders is the key personally. The main point is if you are playing 5 forwards at least 4 have to carry a scoring threat. We can't expect the 2 lads to score 15/16 points everygame particularly against the bigger teams. Also why in the hell were we setting up to nullify cork with all due respect it should be the other way around. If spillane and o brien start against cork we would have won. All PK can and should do is play to our strengths we have good forwards Just play them !!
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 12, 2021 19:33:58 GMT
Probably best suited to the 2021 Season thread but here goes. How many of our backs would get on the Dublin team? 1 maybe 2? Not many more would get on the Mayo team. People whinge about successive managers playing a wing back or a midfielder in the forwards or whatever but the reality is that our backs are not good enough individually or collectively to be able to stop the top team when it comes to the crunch. So the people in the know with the best knowledge of the team have come up with various strategies for us to beat Dublin in Croke Park. The only time it worked was when Lyne and then Gavin Crowley played wing forward and fell back to help out the half back line in the 2017 league final. It almost worked in the 2016 semi final when Mahony played as a sweeper - we all know we were a brutal refereeing decision away from getting something from that game. It almost worked when we played 3 midfielders and 5 forwards in the 2019 final too. Summer football will mean Kerry will however not line out like they did against Cork last November when it was a team designed to take on a running team in a dogfight in bad conditions. Yes it ended up as a disaster but people forget for some reason that if Clifford and Seanie had been on form Kerry would have won that game by 6 or 7 points. I think the Kerry have a weak defense is a little overdone. What did both Mayo and Tyrone concede against Dublin in 16,17,18 ? I think Kerry statistically held their own as much as the much talked about Mayo defense.
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Post by buck02 on May 13, 2021 9:58:11 GMT
When will the team be named. Nothing on Kerry twitter about it.
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Post by dc84 on May 13, 2021 10:30:36 GMT
When will the team be named. Nothing on Kerry twitter about it. You would imagine thursday or Friday, k8nd of irrelevant anyway I think there are 7 subs allowed?
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Post by john4 on May 13, 2021 10:43:44 GMT
When will the team be named. Nothing on Kerry twitter about it. Doesn't make any difference what lineup is named if we'll have same cute carry on this year where the team named won't start? No subs listed?
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Post by greengold35 on May 13, 2021 11:00:51 GMT
When will the team be named. Nothing on Kerry twitter about it. You would imagine thursday or Friday, k8nd of irrelevant anyway I think there are 7 subs allowed? Team will be named on Friday night - couple of absentees due to injury, namely Tom O’Sullivan & Tony Brosnan; 7 subs allowed, no maor foirne anymore.
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Post by dc84 on May 13, 2021 12:14:57 GMT
You would imagine thursday or Friday, k8nd of irrelevant anyway I think there are 7 subs allowed? Team will be named on Friday night - couple of absentees due to injury, namely Tom O’Sullivan & Tony Brosnan; 7 subs allowed, no maor foirne anymore. Sound, I wouldn't be too bothered about the make up of this team it will be just about get minutes into lads. Just hope we are a bit more adventurous than against Cork!
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Post by buck02 on May 13, 2021 12:40:51 GMT
Team will be named on Friday night - couple of absentees due to injury, namely Tom O’Sullivan & Tony Brosnan; 7 subs allowed, no maor foirne anymore. Sound, I wouldn't be too bothered about the make up of this team it will be just about get minutes into lads. Just hope we are a bit more adventurous than against Cork! In fairness, even club championship games in May are a lot different to district club games in storm and monsoon conditions in November.
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Post by givehimaball on May 13, 2021 22:25:51 GMT
Galway team and subs named tonight. 9 starters from the Connacht Final.
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Post by The16thMan on May 14, 2021 1:47:24 GMT
Galway team and subs named tonight. 9 starters from the Connacht Final. Looks like a very close to full strength team by Galway. They're definitely not using the league just for match sharpness, they're gonna give it their best shot at winning it. Matthew Tierney looks like an exciting prospect at 11 for them, had a good run with U20s and club in 2020. Tomo Culhane on the bench is another forward with potential. Having Comer fit for league and Championship this season will be massive,as for Shane Walsh nothing needs be said regarding that mans talent. This will not be an easy game for Kerry, not one bit.
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Post by john4 on May 14, 2021 9:47:31 GMT
Tomás o'Sé stated with certainty on Morning Ireland this morning that Paudie Clifford will start tomorrow against Galway. It sounded more like a fact than an option. Strange way to receive team news.
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Post by Hicser on May 14, 2021 12:21:17 GMT
God like, send out the team, we need something to talk about,
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Post by givehimaball on May 14, 2021 14:41:39 GMT
Looks like a very close to full strength team by Galway. They're definitely not using the league just for match sharpness, they're gonna give it their best shot at winning it. Matthew Tierney looks like an exciting prospect at 11 for them, had a good run with U20s and club in 2020. Tomo Culhane on the bench is another forward with potential. Having Comer fit for league and Championship this season will be massive,as for Shane Walsh nothing needs be said regarding that mans talent. This will not be an easy game for Kerry, not one bit. Galway posted this on Wednesday. Of the six injured players, I'd say Flynn and Daly are the only two who would have been in contention for a possible starting place [the other 4 would probably have been in the battling to make the 26 category I'd say] so definitely not far off Galway's strongest selection. With only 3 games in the league this year and Dublin the last of them, I'd say Joyce would prefer not to be going into that game desperate for points to avoid relegation. Jack Glynn looked a decent prospect with the U20s - Galway have struggled in terms of corner-backs of late so no surprise to see him getting a run. Will be interesting to see how he gets on.
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Post by givehimaball on May 14, 2021 14:47:35 GMT
Did we not hear mention during the past year or so of the following players being called into the panel: Joe O’Connor, Mike Breen, Dara Roche, Dan O'Donoghue, and O'Sullivan (Kenmare). Are they still involved? I thought Gavin O’Brien left the panel before last year’s Championship. I was using as a starting point those who had been named in match day panels from the league or championship last year,taken away those confirmed retirements amd added those mentioned in an Examiner article on those added to the panel in January. I didn't see any official or even semi-offical confirmation of those who listed anywhere. I'd be hopeful that a squad list would be posted by Kerry GAA at some stage.
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Post by eastwarrior on May 14, 2021 15:45:50 GMT
Shane Ryan has picked up an injury in training and is believed to miss up to 8 weeks if rumours are to be believed.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 14, 2021 18:03:46 GMT
Ah be jazus but we're off 'n' runnin' again with our auld chat, so here's my tuppenny biteen.
A Tipp laddo was saying how they couldn't compete with Limerick and who could carry a panel of was it 40 - Galway above have 38 + 11 feeders = 49.
Comparing the respective sponsors' pockets is interesting - Commodity speculating (Treaty) vs Chips 'n' burgers (Tribes) vs High finance (Tipp) vs the auld Kerry Cow, and then ya have the Rebels and The Dubs backers.
But what will be even more interesting is if the/our? GAA gravitates towards a crowdfunding model of financing. The elite soccer fiasco together with Covid and what it has cost Rugby, etc and of course the GAA, will also have a bearing.
What with the gulf opening between Kerry Plc and Contae Chiarraí you'd never know where we are heading, moreover as an odd oinseach confuses the two and then starts comparing our contribution, conveniently omitting the robbers who robbed us!
The 'static' population of Chiarraí is 150,000 and let's say 50,000 including our emigrants would put their hands in their pockets, their own pockets that is! On the Credit side we'd get big advertising and media rights money (ouch!) so take that from the annual cost (net of gate receipts) of running the show and divide that by the 50,000 and ya have a starting point - hey we might make a profit!
They say Covid has accelerated the role of technology in society by a multiple of 10, i.e. what might have taken 10 years happened in 10 months and it ain't over just yet, so all this mightn't be as mad as it first sounds.
And that the match between the GAA as a community sport and Crowdfunding/Crowdsourcing is absolutely astounding, it could well be that the GAA leads the way here.
Ballythefireside quote of the day - God laughs as man plans.
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Post by kerry2017 on May 14, 2021 18:45:01 GMT
Ryan Begley Morely Foley Murphy Crowley White Moran Barry Moynihan O shea Geaney Clifford Spillane Clifford
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Post by sullyschoice on May 14, 2021 19:07:24 GMT
I am guessing Paudie Clifford won't be playing at corner forward
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Post by peanuts on May 14, 2021 19:20:14 GMT
Strong team.
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Post by The16thMan on May 14, 2021 19:20:38 GMT
I am guessing Paudie Clifford won't be playing at corner forward I'm guessing himself and Geaney would swap when the game throws in. T.Brosnan and T O'Sullivan are injured as far as I know but not sure why SOB isn't there. Also am excited to see how Paul O'Shea gets on should he make an appearance.
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Post by diego on May 14, 2021 19:42:51 GMT
Great to see the subs are back on the teamsheet!
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Post by greengold35 on May 14, 2021 19:54:39 GMT
I am guessing Paudie Clifford won't be playing at corner forward I'm guessing himself and Geaney would swap when the game throws in. T.Brosnan and T O'Sullivan are injured as far as I know but not sure why SOB isn't there. Also am excited to see how Paul O'Shea gets on should he make an appearance. Stephen O’Brien is carrying a knock also.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 14, 2021 20:15:01 GMT
Strong team,
Really looking forward to it, Its been a long winter.
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Post by veteran on May 14, 2021 20:23:27 GMT
Publishing the team with the substitutes list is at least one step in the right direction. Perhaps, the next time they will also tell us who is out through injury and then we will really be rolling . In that context I am wondering about Jack Sherwood and Stephen O’Brien ?
Like Galway , and presumably most teams, there will be little time for experimentation this year.
Does the fact that Paul O’Shea is listed in the subs mean he is not eligible for the u20’s this year?
The primary wish of course is for a victory but a very close second in the that wish list is that we play to our strengths. That means getting as much ball as possible , good , bad or indifferent , into that forward line. If that materialises , it will will take a hot full back line to curtail David, Killian and Paul.
Delighted of course that Paudie is getting his chance. Will be surprised if he does not grasp it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 14, 2021 21:41:08 GMT
'The gimp of him' was how a Donegal faithful referred to Comer, and that is the highest compliment in local parlance, it will be a good back that holds him - a unique physicality -maybe psychological, solid, roams, positioning - great reader of a game, I saw him from pitch side and there is a magic to him even before touches an liathróid mór.
Will be interesting with brothers at the top of both corners, curious re TW role for the campaign, also nice to see new blood ala Now what do ya think of that Joe Brolly!
Up da Kingdom
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Post by sullyschoice on May 14, 2021 21:50:26 GMT
The search for somewhere with Eir Sport is reminding me of a search for All Ireland tickets before the season ticket.
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Post by mossie on May 14, 2021 22:26:29 GMT
Are Kevin O'Sullivan Kenmare kerry football sub and Fionan O'Sullivan kerry hurler brothers?
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Post by mossie on May 14, 2021 22:27:16 GMT
delighted Killian Spillane is starting
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 14, 2021 22:33:26 GMT
The search for somewhere with Eir Sport is reminding me of a search for All Ireland tickets before the season ticket. How long is a piece of HDMI string? I am sure a neighbour would oblige? Hopefully we will also have the second problem!
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Post by ataboy on May 14, 2021 22:37:07 GMT
Delighted to see this team. 5 out and out forwards starting who offer a real threat. When fit, bring SOB in for Moynihan as I'm not quiet sure he's at the standard required. Don't think teams fear him.
Great to see Geaney back and Spillane starting. Let him make that position his own for the year.
Paudie Clifford will obviously drop deep but it'll be interesting to see how Kerry line out and who will be left inside.
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