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Post by dc84 on May 10, 2021 7:14:36 GMT
Didn't see a thread for this, impossible to know what wil happen here . This is the most important game in the league for me win and we are probably looking at a semi final lose and we are fighting relegation. Was a very tough game last year that we were lucky to come out the right side of.
Hopefully we will see a Kerry team playing like one and we pick enough scoring forwards to get it done!
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Post by kot on May 10, 2021 10:23:06 GMT
Indeed, Galway should have taken us last year and were nearly caught out late but pulled it out the fire. An ominous sign of things to come as it turned out.
Hopefully lessons have been learnt between last season's catastrophe and we start playing to our strengths rather than worrying about and fearing opposition.
Huge game that they should be absolutely bulling to get a hold (management & players).
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Post by shaggy04 on May 10, 2021 15:34:12 GMT
Is this game on gaa go, I know it's on eir sports but is it on anywhere else
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Post by decondd2 on May 10, 2021 17:09:37 GMT
Is this game on gaa go, I know it's on eir sports but is it on anywhere else No Eir Sports only. If you live abroad you can buy the game for €10 on GaaGo
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Post by piggott on May 10, 2021 18:07:45 GMT
Any idea of a team? How many of Pairc Ui Caoimh first 15 will survive?
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Post by The16thMan on May 11, 2021 4:32:49 GMT
Not sure about what Keane is thinking but if Kerry were to play their strongest hand (which probably won't happen) I would make 4-6 changes from the starting team that played in Cork and they would be:
Definitely Sherwood/G.Crowley for P.Crowley @ 6 (due to retirement) SOB for B.Beaglaioch @ 10 A.Spillane for R.Buckley @ 12 P.Geaney for D.Moynihan @ 15
Maybes J.Barry for D.O'Connor @ 9 K.Spillane for T.Brosnan @ 13
Out of the 4 forward positions I have named only 1 would be known as a scorer (T.Brosnan). Just goes to show how defensive an approach Kerry went with down in Cork compared to Dublin 2019. Hopefully there's a more positive approach to the game plan this year.
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Post by goonised on May 11, 2021 7:37:58 GMT
I would go with Ryan Graham Sull Morley Foley Murphy Crowley White Moran Barry Moynihan S Se P Clifford DC Killian Geaney
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Post by hurlingman on May 11, 2021 8:33:40 GMT
Is this game on gaa go, I know it's on eir sports but is it on anywhere else I'm surprised the county board haven't tried to stream it themselves. Are they still pretending that it wasn't a disaster lat year?
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Post by dc84 on May 11, 2021 8:53:38 GMT
I would go with Ryan Graham Sull Morley Foley Murphy Crowley White Moran Barry Moynihan S Se P Clifford DC Killian Geaney If everyone is fit id have Sherwood at 6 and a.spillane aswell he is workhorse and was excellent in 19 vs mayo Donegal and dublin first game. No Stephen o brien???
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Post by kot on May 11, 2021 8:58:14 GMT
Not sure about what Keane is thinking but if Kerry were to play their strongest hand (which probably won't happen) I would make 4-6 changes from the starting team that played in Cork and they would be: Definitely Sherwood/G.Crowley for P.Crowley @ 6 (due to retirement) SOB for B.Beaglaioch @ 10 A.Spillane for R.Buckley @ 12 P.Geaney for D.Moynihan @ 15 Maybes J.Barry for D.O'Connor @ 9 K.Spillane for T.Brosnan @ 13 Out of the 4 forward positions I have named only 1 would be known as a scorer (T.Brosnan). Just goes to show how defensive an approach Kerry went with down in Cork compared to Dublin 2019. Hopefully there's a more positive approach to the game plan this year. He started Gavin White wing forward that game so it wasn't just Cork he has gone overly defensive. And it's not our forte so hopefully he has learnt his lesson like I said and trusts the ability of our players to outscore the opposition. I am not talking go Kamikaze, but play to our obvious strengths.
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Post by john4 on May 11, 2021 9:09:46 GMT
Jack Sherwood should start on Saturday @ 3 or 6. I really can't figure out why we're perceiving with Tadhg Morely at full back. He's a very hard working honest campaigner but he doesn't look atall comfortable there. Out the field might suit him better.
Is Mike Been in the squad?
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Post by dc84 on May 11, 2021 10:12:15 GMT
I'd have him at 6, good distributer and his bursts up the field are very important. Who marks Shane walsh is vital in this game though.
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Post by peanuts on May 11, 2021 13:55:26 GMT
I would go with Ryan Graham Sull Morley Foley Murphy Crowley White Moran Barry Moynihan S Se P Clifford DC Killian Geaney No Tom O'Sullivan?
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Post by givehimaball on May 11, 2021 15:39:24 GMT
Kerry used 33 players between league and championship last year. There were 3 other players listed in the 26 for league games who didn't see action. Since then 4 have retired and 5 were reported to have joined the squad in an Examiner article back in February.
Played last year Adrian Spillane Templenoe Brian Kelly Killarney Legion Brian Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht Dara Moynihan Spa Killarney David Clifford Fossa David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys David Shaw Dr Crokes Diarmuid O'Connor Na Gaeil Gavin Crowley Templenoe Gavin O'Brien Kerins O'Rahillys Gavin White Dr Crokes Graham O'Sullivan Dromid Pearses Jack Barry Na Gaeil Jack Sherwood Firies James O’Donoghue Legion Jason Foley Ballydonoghue Jonathan Lyne Killarney Legion Killian Spillane Templenoe Liam Kearney Spa Killarney Michael Burns Dr Crokes Paudie Clifford Fossa Paul Geaney Dingle Paul Murphy Rathmore Peter Crowley Laune Rangers Ronan Buckley Listry Sean O'Shea Kenmare Shane Enright Tarbert Shane Ryan Rathmore Stephen O'Brien Kenmare Tadhg Morley Templenoe Tom O'Sullivan Dingle Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahillys Tony Brosnan Dr Crokes
Listed on league squads Adam Donoghue Castleisland Desmonds Michael Potts Dr Crokes Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar
Retired Peter Crowley Shane Enright Brian Kelly Jonathan Lyne
Added to Squad (based on Examiner article in February) Paul O'Shea Kilcummin Brian Leonard Castleisland Desmonds Kieran Fitzgibbon Kenmare Mark Ryan Rathmore Eddie Horan Scartaglen
Based on this the 2021 panel would looks like Adam Donoghue Castleisland Desmonds Adrian Spillane Templenoe Brian Leonard Castleisland Desmonds Brian Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht Dara Moynihan Spa Killarney David Clifford Fossa David Moran Kerins O'Rahillys David Shaw Dr Crokes Diarmuid O'Connor Na Gaeil Eddie Horan Scartaglen Gavin Crowley Templenoe Gavin O'Brien Kerins O'Rahillys Gavin White Dr Crokes Graham O'Sullivan Dromid Pearses Jack Barry Na Gaeil Jack Sherwood Firies James O’Donoghue Legion Jason Foley Ballydonoghue Kieran Fitzgibbon Kenmare Killian Spillane Templenoe Liam Kearney Spa Killarney Mark Ryan Rathmore Michael Burns Dr Crokes Michael Potts Dr Crokes Pa Kilkenny Glenbeigh/Glencar Paudie Clifford Fossa Paul Geaney Dingle Paul Murphy Rathmore Paul O'Shea Kilcummin Ronan Buckley Listry Sean O'Shea Kenmare Shane Ryan Rathmore Stephen O'Brien Kenmare Tadhg Morley Templenoe Tom O'Sullivan Dingle Tommy Walsh Kerins O'Rahillys Tony Brosnan Dr Crokes
That would be a total of 37 players - some players might have been dropped in addition to those who retired. I doubt there were any ones added since the Examiner article in February.
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Post by givehimaball on May 11, 2021 16:24:39 GMT
Galway released their squad and have a main squad of 38 with 10 more players on a "feeder" squad. The current rules about mileage/player expenses is that Croke Park will pay for 32 players [plus 9 backroom staff] and anything more than that has to be paid by the county board themselves. There was talk that 32 players plus 9 backroom staff might be a hard limit and I really wouldn't be surprised to see this happen in a year or two. galwaybayfm.ie/sports/football-michael-daly-absent-from-galways-national-league-panel/Galway came 3rd in the league last year beating Monaghan (by 1 point) , Donegal (by 1 point), Tyrone (by 19 points) and Meath (by 2 points). The Kerry win was a memorable one point late late show win by Kerry. They also had a 15 point loss to Mayo in Salthill in the league and a 6 point loss to Dublin. In the championship they got a walkover against Sligo and lost by a point to Mayo in the Connacht Final.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on May 11, 2021 16:58:04 GMT
Jack Sherwood should start on Saturday @ 3 or 6. I really can't figure out why we're perceiving with Tadhg Morely at full back. He's a very hard working honest campaigner but he doesn't look atall comfortable there. Out the field might suit him better. Is Mike Been in the squad? I wouldn’t agree with that take on Morley at full back at all. I think he’s top class there and has always more than held his own. In reality he’s probably our best option at both 3 and 6. Sherwood or Gavin Crowley will fill the other central defensive position. Crowley is definitely better at 6 than 3 and I think Sherwood is more of a 3 than a 6. If Sherwood isn’t picked in the spine of the defence, I’d pick him at corner back. I really hope we play with 3 real inside scoring forwards, my selection would be Spillane, Clifford and Geaney. Combine that with O’Shea and O’Brien and a very hardworking wing forward with physicality like Adrian Spillane or Ronan Buckley and I think that’s our best balanced forward line.
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Post by taibhse on May 11, 2021 18:17:33 GMT
Did we not hear mention during the past year or so of the following players being called into the panel: Joe O’Connor, Mike Breen, Dara Roche, Dan O'Donoghue, and O'Sullivan (Kenmare). Are they still involved?
I thought Gavin O’Brien left the panel before last year’s Championship.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 11, 2021 19:36:12 GMT
Jack Sherwood should start on Saturday @ 3 or 6. I really can't figure out why we're perceiving with Tadhg Morely at full back. He's a very hard working honest campaigner but he doesn't look atall comfortable there. Out the field might suit him better. Is Mike Been in the squad? I wouldn’t agree with that take on Morley at full back at all. I think he’s top class there and has always more than held his own. In reality he’s probably our best option at both 3 and 6. Sherwood or Gavin Crowley will fill the other central defensive position. Crowley is definitely better at 6 than 3 and I think Sherwood is more of a 3 than a 6. If Sherwood isn’t picked in the spine of the defence, I’d pick him at corner back. I really hope we play with 3 real inside scoring forwards, my selection would be Spillane, Clifford and Geaney. Combine that with O’Shea and O’Brien and a very hardworking wing forward with physicality like Adrian Spillane or Ronan Buckley and I think that’s our best balanced forward line. Absolutely agree regarding that forward line. I think Tony Brosnan should push very hard for a place.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on May 11, 2021 20:26:55 GMT
I think we are at the stage whereby we should be saying we will go all out attacking football because we trust our forwards to out score all other forwards in Ireland. I know you could argue that hasn’t worked against teams like Dublin in the past however I think our forward 6 are now the best in Ireland. Let the games be a total shoot out ... a forward line of O’Brien O’Shea O’Connor Clifford Geaney Spillane Impact subs Tony Brosnan, Dara Moynihan James ODonoghue That’s what we should be building our game plan on. I expect a huge year from Diarmuid O’Connor, Killian Spillane also.
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Post by piggott on May 11, 2021 22:51:05 GMT
Nobody mentioning Paul O'Shea
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Post by Ballyfireside on May 12, 2021 0:52:35 GMT
Galway looked to have scope when I saw 'em in the flesh vs Donegal, v strong and Mayo style of play, should be a cracker and it is only natural to expect an abnormal number of upsets give the upheaval in society. Anyone say what big guns mightn't fire?
3 sleeps to action!
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 12, 2021 7:06:25 GMT
Nobody mentioning Paul O'Shea Maybe it's a year to soon for Paul. Would be great to see him push on with the 20s.
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Post by hurlingman on May 12, 2021 7:16:09 GMT
Nobody mentioning Paul O'Shea Maybe it's a year to soon for Paul. Would be great to see him push on with the 20s. He's a good example of a player imo who would have benefited from a year with the Juniors. It would have given him another step up.
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Post by Premier on May 12, 2021 7:55:13 GMT
Maybe it's a year to soon for Paul. Would be great to see him push on with the 20s. He's a good example of a player imo who would have benefited from a year with the Juniors. It would have given him another step up. He plays with a senior club so that wouldn’t have been feasible even if the Juniors was continued
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Post by taggert on May 12, 2021 8:10:45 GMT
Sherwood has to start for Kerry and can play in a number of positions. He has the perfect balance of physique, pace and poise on the ball and brings great momentum to attacks. He took the game to Cork when he came on and that was on a day when so many went into their shell. I'd leave Morley where he is and play Sherwood in any line from half back, midfield or half forward as he has the physical attributes and the footballing smarts to deliver anywhere.
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 12, 2021 9:46:23 GMT
Sherwood has to start for Kerry and can play in a number of positions. He has the perfect balance of physique, pace and poise on the ball and brings great momentum to attacks. He took the game to Cork when he came on and that was on a day when so many went into their shell. I'd leave Morley where he is and play Sherwood in any line from half back, midfield or half forward as he has the physical attributes and the footballing smarts to deliver anywhere. Agree with above, Sherwood is very comfortable on the ball and is smart too.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on May 12, 2021 12:50:14 GMT
Sherwood has to start for Kerry and can play in a number of positions. He has the perfect balance of physique, pace and poise on the ball and brings great momentum to attacks. He took the game to Cork when he came on and that was on a day when so many went into their shell. I'd leave Morley where he is and play Sherwood in any line from half back, midfield or half forward as he has the physical attributes and the footballing smarts to deliver anywhere. Agree with above, Sherwood is very comfortable on the ball and is smart too. Very good man marker as well as he has shown numerous times with East Kerry. He nearly always marks the opposition danger man and I’ve never seen anyone do much at all on him. I agree, he has to be starter, wherever in the back 6 that is.
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Post by peanuts on May 12, 2021 16:26:34 GMT
Agree with above, Sherwood is very comfortable on the ball and is smart too. Very good man marker as well as he has shown numerous times with East Kerry. He nearly always marks the opposition danger man and I’ve never seen anyone do much at all on him. I agree, he has to be starter, wherever in the back 6 that is. He hasn't played that role with Kerry. He wore the No. 3 jersey for most of the 2019 league but it generally was Peter Crowley in full back and Sherwood tended to be in the half backline.
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Post by buck02 on May 12, 2021 17:07:48 GMT
Probably best suited to the 2021 Season thread but here goes.
How many of our backs would get on the Dublin team?
1 maybe 2? Not many more would get on the Mayo team.
People whinge about successive managers playing a wing back or a midfielder in the forwards or whatever but the reality is that our backs are not good enough individually or collectively to be able to stop the top team when it comes to the crunch.
So the people in the know with the best knowledge of the team have come up with various strategies for us to beat Dublin in Croke Park. The only time it worked was when Lyne and then Gavin Crowley played wing forward and fell back to help out the half back line in the 2017 league final. It almost worked in the 2016 semi final when Mahony played as a sweeper - we all know we were a brutal refereeing decision away from getting something from that game. It almost worked when we played 3 midfielders and 5 forwards in the 2019 final too.
Summer football will mean Kerry will however not line out like they did against Cork last November when it was a team designed to take on a running team in a dogfight in bad conditions. Yes it ended up as a disaster but people forget for some reason that if Clifford and Seanie had been on form Kerry would have won that game by 6 or 7 points.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on May 12, 2021 17:42:14 GMT
I think Tom O’Sullivan, Morley and Paul Murphy all start for Dublin. Add those 3 to say Sherwood, Gavin Crowley and White and our back six isn’t lacking ability. Foley, Beaglaoich and Graham O’Sullivan are other options. I fully believe we can put out a set of 6 backs who are more than competent.
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