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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 24, 2021 18:19:47 GMT
On what grounds should captain be changed. Well a captain is chosen for each year. David Clifford was chosen to be last year’s captain and another selection will have to be made this year. Yes, East Kerry won it again so you would expect David to be captain again but there is a difference this year with Rathmore being with EK. Paul Murphy is a great option for captain being one of our most experienced players and a certain starter. That’s not saying David isn’t a great option for captain either, most would agree he’s out best player which helps and he’s also a natural leader. I certainly think there’s a discussion to be had, it might be decided that David would be better served without having the captaincy.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 24, 2021 20:14:25 GMT
On what grounds should captain be changed. There’s a new captain selected every year and Murphy couldn’t be considered last year as he hadn’t played for EK the previous season. Also I said on here at the time that giving it to Clifford was a mistake as a guy his age doesn’t need the additional pressure and in the end it didn’t exactly work out for us in the championship. There’ll need to be changes this year to every facet of the team and squad so I wouldn’t take any changes off the table
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Post by veteran on Jan 24, 2021 21:13:21 GMT
I would have no problem with Paul Murphy being captain but would taking the captaincy from David suggest that there was unhappiness with his captaincy last year. I don’t accept his performances last year were impacted by the captain’s role. On the contrary , he strikes me as a guy who was born to lead.
I cannot accept that his mediocre performance against Cork had anything. to do with being captain. It simply mirrored a myriad things that went wrong that day.
All in all, my wish would be to see David as our 2021 captain.
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Post by mossie on Jan 25, 2021 0:38:09 GMT
On what grounds should captain be changed. There’s a new captain selected every year and Murphy couldn’t be considered last year as he hadn’t played for EK the previous season. Also I said on here at the time that giving it to Clifford was a mistake as a guy his age doesn’t need the additional pressure and in the end it didn’t exactly work out for us in the championship. There’ll need to be changes this year to every facet of the team and squad so I wouldn’t take any changes off the table do you really see the team changing in personnel that much ? when it comes down to it, I expect we will be using the most of the 20 players we did against Cork again in the 20 we use in 2021 The reality is , the dilemma we are in arises from the tactical failure in the last quarter of the 2019 drawn final, we had the Dubs on the ropes, a man up, a score or two up, Spillane and Walsh had Dublin full back line in panic if we only got more ball to them rather than going defensive. every time I think of it, the damn thing pains me, the 5 in a row should never have been , the 2019 final was ours for the taking. we are paying the price since we were caught in PUC by undersestimating cork and thinking 3 matches ahead, we had a template that nearly beat the dubs in 2019, just needs tweeking and a bit more expansive play to get us to an all ireland title in 2021
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 25, 2021 10:15:29 GMT
The honour of captaincy is the gift of the county champions in Kerry as we well know. It is not unusual for a team that retains the county championship to nominate a different captain the second year and it is not seen as a slur of any kind on the person who was captain the first year. Paul Murphy is the "senior" player from EK in the Kerry team and would be a natural selection if available, particularly in a year when the EK championship was not completed. Captain is an honorary postion in Kerry and does not always co-incide with team leadership.
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Post by eastwarrior on Jan 25, 2021 11:10:47 GMT
I would be happy to see either of the two lads given captaincy as they both deserve it and have the credentials for it. I don’t think it really would bother any of the two lads which one of them got it. David did nothing wrong when he was a captain and no blame could be put on him for the championship exit for a lack of leadership, he can do little bits of magic that really would drive on a team. Murphy too I feel would be a brilliant candidate a nailed on starter if you ask me and a born leader. My mind is thrown back to the water break in the second half against cork and it appeared Paul was the man rallying the troops and driving on the team. I don’t think anyone could complain out which one of the 2 boys got it and they certainly won’t be complaining amongst themselves given the character of the 2 men.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Jan 25, 2021 11:59:04 GMT
I would have no problem with Paul Murphy being captain but would taking the captaincy from David suggest that there was unhappiness with his captaincy last year. I don’t accept his performances last year were impacted by the captain’s role. On the contrary , he strikes me as a guy who was born to lead. I cannot accept that his mediocre performance against Cork had anything. to do with being captain. It simply mirrored a myriad things that went wrong that day. All in all, my wish would be to see David as our 2021 captain. I dont think its a pressure that someone of his age needs and to be honest I dont think he deserves it as of yet. I said the same last year and I cant see my opinion changing in the next 2/3 years. I'd be in the camp of giving it to Murphy aswell if it has to be an EK player and if we decide to move into the 21st century then I'd give it to Moran
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Post by Galway breeze on Jan 25, 2021 14:42:47 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 25, 2021 20:53:28 GMT
Paul Murphy and Daniel Collins captains for 2021.
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Post by mossie on Jan 25, 2021 22:28:49 GMT
well that the captaincy settled anyway
best of luck Paul
did Paul captain Kerry before in a championship match when Crokes hadnt a starter? or am I imagining that
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Post by peanuts on Jan 26, 2021 22:19:48 GMT
well that the captaincy settled anyway best of luck Paul did Paul captain Kerry before in a championship match when Crokes hadnt a starter? or am I imagining that He certainly captained them a lot in the league one year.
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Post by mossie on Jan 26, 2021 22:34:28 GMT
maybe it was the league Peanuts as you say
I am actually getting more bullish about kerrys chances in 2021 the more I think about it
just need to tweek things a little
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 27, 2021 8:55:38 GMT
well that the captaincy settled anyway best of luck Paul did Paul captain Kerry before in a championship match when Crokes hadnt a starter? or am I imagining that He was the captain for the 2019 final when Gavin White lost his place in the starting team.
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Post by An Bradán on Jan 28, 2021 12:49:05 GMT
Delighted to see that Paul Murphy got the captaincy. A great warrior and top player. Still happy that Kerry have stuck with our system of selection too. Tradition matters
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Post by Galway breeze on Jan 28, 2021 16:37:29 GMT
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 28, 2021 17:36:46 GMT
No rugby union you mean 😝 AIL is amateur slash semipro at best.
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Post by sullyschoice on Jan 28, 2021 22:56:47 GMT
I am beginning to think there will be no National League for us either
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 29, 2021 2:34:23 GMT
Ah jazus go aisy, I can just about wait until March, it wasn't long coming around, still God laughs as man plans so let's just hope we get back to some kind of normality at some stage this year, and less laughing outa yer Boyeen above, this is a serious business!
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Post by Kerryman 2 on Feb 5, 2021 21:19:08 GMT
I hear some clubs are back in club gyms last few weeks
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 5, 2021 21:24:41 GMT
Ours are all training on zoom up in their attics
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Post by jackiel on Feb 7, 2021 14:07:06 GMT
I hear some clubs are back in club gyms last few weeks Club gyms are not permitted to be used at present, this really drives me mad. Some are following the regulations and working away as best they can in small groups away from their clubs. Others flouting the rules, when word gets out(which is generally does) it takes away from the good works being done by the majority. My club was approached to allow senior county players use our gym but refused, our 2 panel members have been given a loan of equipment to use at home to keep up with the county S& C programme. As the GAA Player Injury scheme has been suspended all training being done at present is at the players own risk.
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Post by clubman on Feb 7, 2021 16:28:37 GMT
I hear some clubs are back in club gyms last few weeks I heard of a club down here training away in pods of 4. Surely they could give it a rest for a while and start up whenever the clubs get the go ahead. If lads want to stay fit then they should be able to tip away on their own
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Post by pillar on Feb 9, 2021 20:30:05 GMT
Kerrys Eye reporting Maurice Fitz to take a more prominent role in coaching the forwards this year..sounds like there's going to be a few minor changes to the backroom set up...you'd wonder if Paul G was a runner at all and if so how come no one else was approached!!
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Post by veteran on Feb 9, 2021 22:37:27 GMT
Surprised to hear that Maurice has not had a “more prominent role” coaching the forwards up to this. Surely that is his speciality.. Weirder and weirder.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 9, 2021 23:03:38 GMT
What was his role up to this apart from selector. He never seemed prominent.
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Post by john4 on Feb 9, 2021 23:37:32 GMT
While every other serious All Ireland contender has recruited Coaching personnel with recognised credentials and a proven coaching career we're still messing around. Serious question, Is it a money problem?
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Post by pillar on Feb 10, 2021 1:12:26 GMT
While every other serious All Ireland contender has recruited Coaching personnel with recognised credentials and a proven coaching career we're still messing around. Serious question, Is it a money problem? Do expand!!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 10, 2021 4:11:14 GMT
While every other serious All Ireland contender has recruited Coaching personnel with recognised credentials and a proven coaching career we're still messing around. Serious question, Is it a money problem? Hardly.
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Post by john4 on Feb 10, 2021 9:20:06 GMT
While every other serious All Ireland contender has recruited Coaching personnel with recognised credentials and a proven coaching career we're still messing around. Serious question, Is it a money problem? Do expand!! It appears to me that we are trying to do this on the cheap. What are Maurice Fitzgerald's, and Tommy Griffin's coaching experience. Many All Ireland winning teams in recent years have benefited from the services of a recognised sports psychologist. Do we have one? I think we're taking a yerra approach to something other counties have taken a more progressive view.
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Post by Galway breeze on Feb 10, 2021 9:33:13 GMT
What are the credentials to be a manager or selector/ coach in county teams? From what I see is if you played with your county that’s the qualifications. There should be a PROPER coaching ticket system over a number of course, years and testing that knowledge the same as any other top level sports. Most inter county coaches should have an understanding of the game in depth, coached at underage, knowledge on the principles of exercise, knowledge on how the human body works (physiology), code of ethics, child protection, knowledge on wellness.......
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