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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 29, 2020 23:32:21 GMT
There are numerous areas of they Kerry team.to be addressed going into 2021. Chief among these are at midfield. I would like to see us trial something other than David Moran and another. Maybe a mobile combination of Adrian Spillane and DOC or Jack Barry of fit. It seems to me a lot of David Moran's headless moments come at the tail end of games when he is prob mentally and physically fatigued. He doesn't have 70+ minutes anymore. One thing that really grates is people saying Peter Keane was preparing for the Dubs with his tactics against Cork. I hate to break it to people but, Dublin would have destroyed us with that setup. Our defence still looks very light when you look at other teams. Peter Crowley is one of our more powerful players but, looking at other teams he is just about average. I think some combination of Gavin Crowley, Jack Sherwood and Morely should man the central defensive positions. And why not start forwards in the half forward line? If we must start a defender why not Paul Murphy as he is the defender with the skills to play there. David Clifford, Paul Geaney, JOD ( if fit) Killian Spillane, Tony Brosnan. Surely we can make a coherent full forward line from that group. I agree other players and combinations should be tried at midfield in the league, but Moran is still our best midfielder. I think bringing him off after 60 minutes and telling him only to shoot if it’s 100 percent going over would greatly minimise the ways he negatively impacts the team while retaining the qualities that he possesses that we need. Alongside him Barry is probably our best option. He is great at negating his direct opponent and tackling but I would like to see him become more dominant in the air, he wins very few kick outs. He’s very safe on the ball too, I know he’s not a real attacking player but he’s good at carrying the ball and he should do it a bit more often. Adrian Spillane is a good option at midfield or wing forward although he is on the small side for midfield. Diarmuid O’Connor is much too weak physically for inter county midfield in my opinion. He’s lacking a bit of confidence or drive for wing forward as well. If he is to contribute to Kerry having a successful season next year he is going to have to greatly improve. He has talent as we’ve seen at club level but I think he was brought in too young. PK brought him in his first year after O’Connor had one underwhelming year at u20 level. I’d like to see Joe O’Connor of Stacks trialled at midfield in the league. He’s a very good fielder, mobile and can offer a bigger threat than what we have in attacking areas. Right now my selection around the middle for Kerry would be Moran and Barry with Spillane at wing forward. I’d be delighted if Joe O’Connor could claim a midfield position. I agree on the 3 you mentioned for the central defensive positions but I wonder if Dan O’Donoghue should be looked at for centre back?
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Post by colinsworth1 on Dec 30, 2020 2:15:51 GMT
I’m glad someone is finally focusing on midfield I believe we’re totally lacking an attacking midfield Which has had us going into games alway wondering how we can contain the opposition 8 and 9 instead of them chasing our 8 and 9 like Kerry midfielder s of the past put the fear of god into the opposition . We’re raising the white flag at midfield before a ball is kicked We have our defense under pressure from the throw in due to attacking opposition midfielders that has to be reversed . Peter Keane has huge faith in Diarmuid O Connor he must have been a great minor but has done little if anything so far at senior level He hardly handled any ball at all against Cork in the last game . Moran dosent owe us anything but he want to cut out the reckless kicking at critical times Joe O Connor may or may not be the answer but he has a fearless swashbuckling style that we so badly need He’s not driving with the handbrake on like too many others . I think peter and Tommy need to think outside the narrow focus and find us a few leaders who will bring us to a higher level Let’s not complain. About Dublin’s dominance let’s get to their standard and meet them eyeball to eyeball and give them the fright of their lives . Mayo done a lot right but they done so much wrong too they couldn’t possibly expect to win with so many unforced kicking / shooting errors AOS diving with contact from Cooper when one or two more strides if he desired would have put him in on goal and the other scoring chance he had he won the ball but somehow inexplicably fouled Davy Byrne in the process another possible goal chance gone a begging don’t tell me Dublin are that good Im Simply not buying that and totally fed up of hearing it .
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Dec 30, 2020 14:45:27 GMT
It’s probably stating the obvious but Kerry really need to use the league to find a center back and a midfielder. I think center back is a specialist position and not one you can just ask a ‘good defender’ to fill. I really think you need experience in the role.
Options for center back Peter Crowley - just back from injury last year wasn’t really up to pace. Could be the answer depending if he returns to pre injury form. Although If he regains the agility of pre injury I would put him in the full back line probably to add some toughness to that line. He was performing excellently at corner back in the league prior to his knee injury. Dan Donoghue - excellent county championship in the no 6 position .. not sure if he has the physicality for intercounty no. 6 but definitely worth an assessment at least. Bring him in training and you will find out quickly if he has the strength for the role. Mike Breen - hard to comment really .. seems a decent, non flashy type defender. Some have questioned his pace but seems quite pacy to me. At underage he was always very solid and assured in the position. Could be an option if given an extended period during the league to find his feet but a big ask to go from not being on the panel to starting no. 6. Jack Barry - has played underage at 6 and has the physicality and calmness for the role. I certainly think it is an option to consider. Maybe agility when man marking 1:1 would be an issue. Probably needed midfield also.
Other..... can’t really think of any obvious candidates.... not an easy problem to solve.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 30, 2020 15:20:05 GMT
It’s probably stating the obvious but Kerry really need to use the league to find a center back and a midfielder. I think center back is a specialist position and not one you can just ask a ‘good defender’ to fill. I really think you need experience in the role. Options for center back Peter Crowley - just back from injury last year wasn’t really up to pace. Could be the answer depending if he returns to pre injury form. Although If he regains the agility of pre injury I would put him in the full back line probably to add some toughness to that line. He was performing excellently at corner back in the league prior to his knee injury. Dan Donoghue - excellent county championship in the no 6 position .. not sure if he has the physicality for intercounty no. 6 but definitely worth an assessment at least. Bring him in training and you will find out quickly if he has the strength for the role. Mike Breen - hard to comment really .. seems a decent, non flashy type defender. Some have questioned his pace but seems quite pacy to me. At underage he was always very solid and assured in the position. Could be an option if given an extended period during the league to find his feet but a big ask to go from not being on the panel to starting no. 6. Jack Barry - has played underage at 6 and has the physicality and calmness for the role. I certainly think it is an option to consider. Maybe agility when man marking 1:1 would be an issue. Probably needed midfield also. Other..... can’t really think of any obvious candidates.... not an easy problem to solve. For me I would choose from Dan O’Donoghue, Morley and Gavin Crowley. Now as you say Dan O’Donoghue mightn’t be good enough but I think he needs to be looked at, the thing is though he isn’t even on the panel at the moment so maybe PK doesn’t rate him. He has been very solid for East Kerry and seems to be a natural 6 with the positional sense for the position. Morley was excellent at 6 before he moved to full back. We’d miss him at full back but if Sherwood could fill that position Morley could be positioned at 6. Either way Morley will fill one of the central defensive positions as our best back but I think he’s probably needed more at full back. The other option is Gavin Crowley who I rate highly. He did very well at centre back in 2019 although it could be argued his most natural position is wing back. I’d be happy enough to have him positioned there next year.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 31, 2020 13:33:11 GMT
It's ok to be picking a team when we haven't seen contenders perform at inter-county level in training, so long as we realise such limitation on our assertions - and yes, we can all get carried away when we see a sublime club player in action. Some great club players don't make it and often because of the anticipation factor, reading the game, where and how the run of develops, etc. And of course any comment I'd make is also within the confines of not having even sees fellas in the flesh.
Bearing in mind that management can even get it wrong, e.g. was Donaghy discovered as a FF by accident more or less? Then he was written off only to get back and become a leader - just how many games did he make the difference? - vs Monaghan in Clones 2019, vs Mayo in Limerick and probably vs Donegal in 2014 AI final.
How wrong we can be and sure if selecting teams keeps us happy then it can't be bad.
Anyway hopefully 2021 will bring better times for everybody and I suppose it is just a case of hanging in there for brighter days ahead.
So with that I wish fellow rascals and rogues on here all the best in our quest for uimhir a tríocha a hocht.
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Post by westgaa on Dec 31, 2020 15:00:41 GMT
Any under 20's worth bringing in just to gain the training experience with seniors and bring them on a bit for the years ahead?
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Post by colinsworth1 on Dec 31, 2020 15:05:52 GMT
Any under 20's worth bringing in just to gain the training experience with seniors and bring them on a bit for the years ahead? Sean Quilter 6 ft 6. And can play ball as good as any Need to move him up
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Post by Premier on Dec 31, 2020 18:49:49 GMT
Any under 20's worth bringing in just to gain the training experience with seniors and bring them on a bit for the years ahead? Sean Quilter 6 ft 6. And can play ball as good as any Need to move him up He couldn’t start for Stacks or the u20s 4 months ago so it would be quite the step up
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Post by colinsworth1 on Dec 31, 2020 21:28:01 GMT
Something not adding up there I saw him score the late 4 points in the county semifinal against Croke’s there hasn’t been a better performance like than in club or county all year where he dragged his team from the jaws of defeat in the final minutes. Sean Qulter Coverd him self in glory then not so sure i can say the same for the Stack s or the Kerry U 20 s So I wouldn’t necessarily go by their selection decisions
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Post by pillar on Jan 1, 2021 13:39:02 GMT
Any word of fellas retiring or opting out for 2021...if so might realise then how hard it could be to replace even a squad member not to mention a first fifteener.
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 1, 2021 15:48:04 GMT
Something not adding up there I saw him score the late 4 points in the county semifinal against Croke’s there hasn’t been a better performance like than in club or county all year where he dragged his team from the jaws of defeat in the final minutes. Sean Qulter Coverd him self in glory then not so sure i can say the same for the Stack s or the Kerry U 20 s So I wouldn’t necessarily go by their selection decisions I dont think too many Kerry folk are overly concerned about our forwards division (provided we pick forwards of course) - our main concern is and has been our defence and increasingly midfield of late with David Moran beginning to show his age particularly late in games. With regard to defence I wonder what defenders do our forwards hate being marked by - I think we have forgotten about a defenders primary duty and have been preferring swashbuckling defenders particularly in the half back line in recent years and this has brought additional pressure on the defence. One could argue that this is the way the game has gone but I still prefer to pick good defenders first and foremost. Who do David Clifford/Paul Geaney/Sean O Se hate to see as there immediate opponent within the county I wonder - hopefully PK has asked this question of his marquee forwards. Easy to spot the guy who flies forward but are there other sticky backs that are flying under the radar. Have we backs that don't give up scores easily. Midfielders tend to require time - looking back at some of our better midfielders they all took time to develop into top intercounty midfielders. We have a number of candidates and it will be interesting to see who grabs the opportunity.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Jan 1, 2021 18:20:11 GMT
I have a theory that Kerry defenders are bet-down from getting roasted in training the whole time.
There was an unusual toughness to the 2000s defenders.
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Post by pintpleasejohn on Jan 1, 2021 18:25:33 GMT
Jonathan Lyne retiring.
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Post by john4 on Jan 1, 2021 19:22:24 GMT
I have a theory that Kerry defenders are bet-down from getting roasted in training the whole time. There was an unusual toughness to the 2000s defenders. 2014 final, the backs won that match, forwards were wreckless especially in the second half,Paul Murphy and Peter Crowley outstanding, as were Mark o Se and Aiden o Mahony who haven't been replaced by anyone nearly as determined. The weakness of our defence is the single biggest issue in this Kerry group at the moment. We're trying to compensate for the lack of ability with numbers in depth.
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Post by givehimaball on Jan 1, 2021 19:23:40 GMT
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jan 2, 2021 1:01:05 GMT
Came accross as pure. Gentleman solid dependable player possibly not given enough chance to show his best We will never forget his long range points in 2014 v Mayo absolutely huge scores Thanks for everything Jonathan
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 2, 2021 18:44:59 GMT
Came accross as pure. Gentleman solid dependable player possibly not given enough chance to show his best We will never forget his long range points in 2014 v Mayo absolutely huge scores Thanks for everything Jonathan He was given quite a lot of chance to be fair. Problem was he was moved out arond too much. Was never suited to be a wing forward and that's where he got most of his chances.
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Post by kerryexile on Jan 2, 2021 22:15:10 GMT
Jonathan was a gentleman and a hardworking, skillful, intelligent footballer. He was unlucky that the best years of his career were during an extended, stagnant period of team building.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 3, 2021 6:55:47 GMT
Something not adding up there I saw him score the late 4 points in the county semifinal against Croke’s there hasn’t been a better performance like than in club or county all year where he dragged his team from the jaws of defeat in the final minutes. Sean Qulter Coverd him self in glory then not so sure i can say the same for the Stack s or the Kerry U 20 s So I wouldn’t necessarily go by their selection decisions I dont think too many Kerry folk are overly concerned about our forwards division (provided we pick forwards of course) - our main concern is and has been our defence and increasingly midfield of late with David Moran beginning to show his age particularly late in games.With regard to defence I wonder what defenders do our forwards hate being marked by - I think we have forgotten about a defenders primary duty and have been preferring swashbuckling defenders particularly in the half back line in recent years and this has brought additional pressure on the defence. One could argue that this is the way the game has gone but I still prefer to pick good defenders first and foremost. Who do David Clifford/Paul Geaney/Sean O Se hate to see as there immediate opponent within the county I wonder - hopefully PK has asked this question of his marquee forwards. Easy to spot the guy who flies forward but are there other sticky backs that are flying under the radar. Have we backs that don't give up scores easily. Midfielders tend to require time - looking back at some of our better midfielders they all took time to develop into top intercounty midfielders. We have a number of candidates and it will be interesting to see who grabs the opportunity. I could not disagree more with your statement here and our forwards are a major concern! If we're talking about taking down the Dubs then our forwards failing to convert scoring opportunities in many cases is the major reason we failed to seal the deal in 2019 (penalty missed and other goals opportunities missed) and those shocking amount of wide’s (13 was it?) against Cork in 2020 and this despite a very negative game plan on the day. All those missed chances were not missed necessarily by converted midfielders or half backs either but by some of our much vaunted and way over praised forwards on current form. I agree we need to select more forwards and better ones if they exist but make no mistake we could do a whole lot better with the forwards in there with unfulfilled potential. The inefficiency in front of the posts and the lack of goal conversion or creating more goal chances has been most pronounced in our recent championship defeats and it’s an undeniable proven fact! We’re well off the required standard of consistency needed and while we all enjoy those rare magic moments of skill to win big championship games you need consistency and missing 14 meter frees or kicking short into a defender or goalkeepers hands is unacepteable for high level forwards if we want to be the best. When you fail to nail your goal chances in big games, especially against the likes of Dublin you will pay the bill for it. Do Kerry even carry a consistent goal threat? JOD was always a goal threat when available but right now is there one? In comparison to Dublin do we create good team moves for goals? Do we convert enough of the goal chances when we get them? NO and NO again! Look we all support the Kerry team on here and they simply may not even be good enough to beat Dublin when it comes down to it as was proven in 2019 and there are no guarantees now. What bugs me is our defence and midfield always and even our management (perhaps warranted on occasions) get a lazy kicking from critics and way too easily following defeats in some cases. Why are our forwards always treated more like the golden boys? Why are folks more reluctant to blame those forwards but praise them far too much, too easily, and far too soon in some cases when nothing is really proven yet at senior level. Unless our forwards get more consistent in their scoring return and smarter with their in game decision making then we’re not dethroning Dublin and it's a major concern. PS: Which of the present Kerry forwards would you start on the 40 or at 14 on the current Dublin team instead of a Ciaran Kilkenny, Con O' Callaghan or a Dean Rock? On proven form no one is my answer!
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Post by Galway breeze on Jan 3, 2021 11:39:55 GMT
I have to agree with kingdomson Kerry have problems not only in midfield and Defensively but 60% of the forwards are not up to championship pace. If you look at Dublin v Mayo 6 off the Dubs forwards division scored in comparison to 2 from Mayo. In 2019 replay Dubs had 5 forwards score (from play bar 1 45) to Kerry’s 4 forwards (5 frees) and Dublins conversion rate is also 10% better than most the teams they played over the last few years. Kerry need to rebuild for the next 2/3 years in all areas of the field.
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Post by Kingdomson on Jan 3, 2021 16:22:07 GMT
There is some much needed re-evaluation by folks who have been over critical of our Kerry defence and midfield following recent defeats in high end games.
I would ask people to re-watch the drawn All Ireland final of 2019, our defence was absolutely outstanding and never let the highly vaunted Dublin attackers get goal side or in for a goal chance and our midfield gave the Kerry team a superb platform to go and win the game. However, despite a really good performance by Sean O’Shea and the superb individual efforts by Killian Spillane when brought on, our forwards failed as a unit and were sub-standard missing several goal chances or criminally dropping far too many shots short and lord above the wides but nah apparently nothing to see here folks, let’s blame David Moran and the defence.
For the replay of course there was a team systems failure for Dublin’s ultimately match deciding goal when our defenders marking their men were pulled out from the centre and left the highway open. The Dublin move did start with an awkward punch of a ball from David Moran and yet Murchan still should have been pulled for steps (this rule has become a joke and is nearly now totally ignored). This well used parlour trick by Dublin saw Kerry caught and several teams caught over the years including Mayo this year. However, did the Kerry midfield and defence do enough to give our forwards a platform of chances to go and put up a match winning total – damn right they did! Especially the first day out and less so the second day but the forwards as a unit was still a problem sector.
This year people can lazily again blame our defence or indeed David Moran again for errors and the management for getting it badly wrong tactically but the fact remains the Kerry forwards had plenty of chances to win this game with a degree of comfort and were completely sub-standard. For those who constantly blame our defenders or midfield – rewatch and think again! I rest my case.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Jan 3, 2021 19:01:47 GMT
Assuming we have natural forwards better than all others is a complacency syndrome that we have had for a while You can see the time put in to Dublin Shooting and Scoring they don’t take low percentage shots the ones they do take are very well Practiced and rarely miss . Contrast that with Mayo in final. Mayo simply did not put the time in to it on the training field and its no secret mystery and has nothing to do with funding So many examples of this Matt Rouane misses a 27 yard tap over with his left it goes in to keepers hands to compound this he kicks another left leg tap pass away shortly after Showing total lack of. Work put in to the most basic of kicking skills , Carr and. Cohen come in and kick a few that were not really on and then miskick a few more . The point I’m making is we need to have specialized forward and Defence and midfield coaches .where these coaches are held accountable for the performance of their particular charges Plenty of. Such assistant coaches in Kerry willing to help. Quality Control and oversight is what’s needed . My constant drumbeat of the need for a dynamic midfield duo that can defend can hold and can attack and score continues . Our six defenders have been facing 6 forwards and 2 midfielders for a long while now that s Six versus their eight. Without ever taking into account the attacking opposition defenders We have David Moran but have not yet established a partner for him that s consistent and too frequently we set up with a containment strategy at midfield which allows the opposition midfield to attack with little or no Defending to do Brian Fenton looked all at sea when Matt Ruane attacked in the first half it was all foreign to Fenton if Ruane s shooting was better it would have been embarrassing for Fenton . It would also have kept him back behind his own half way line more often When I mentioned Sean Quilters club performance for Stacks in the 2020 semi final as being one of the highlights of the entire club season in Kerry I’m saying he is just an example of the type of player that may be going under the Radar out around the County and he can score and is a very good ball handler why couldn’t he be a future Kerry midfielder at 6 ft 6 some time in the future , Seamus Flanagan ( limerick Hurler ) Could not makes the starting 15 on the Limereick U21 side built John Kiely saw the potential and started him on the seniors team the rest is history We don’t have a transfer season in January but I feel we need to cast the net again and get at least two or three new candidates that can put the pressures on the existing squad keep things fresh and we may just turn up another star .
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Post by veteran on Jan 3, 2021 21:04:11 GMT
Kingsomson, I acknowledge the points you make but I remain more concerned about our defence , far more concerned , than about our attack. I am including our goalie in defence of course . This concern has a lot to do with quantity. There is a problem with quality as well.Without going into detail , will do if needs be, I could name perhaps ten or twelve potential forwards whom I would expect to perform adequately at intercounty level , not all of course would be match winners, while I struggle to similarly name a list of defenders . I must stress of course, as I have stressed several times before , the potential of our forwards is contingent on our chief marksmen being deployed essentially as that. Accordingly, I feel no guilt in repeatedly castigating management for deficiencies in that regard.
Staying with the forwards, you name check Ciaran Kilkenny, Con O’Callaghan and Dean Rock. All marvelous players no doubt. You question , more or less , have we forwards to compare with these, on proven form. The first point to remember is that these players are constantly in the shop window whereas our lads , particularly in this abysmal year , get less exposure for obvious reasons. I suppose a fairer question to pose would Sean O’Shea, David Clifford and Paul Geaney, if they were on the Dublin team, be as effective as the three lads you mention? I suggest the answer is yes.
Incidentally, and I concede that this has nothing to do with the main thrust of your argument, if I was allowed to pick one forward for effectiveness, skill, feats of unexpectedness and ability to excite a crowd , it would be the boy from Spa. So, he goes in at 14. Allow for bias of course.
Returning to the defence. you are a bit lenient on them as regards the concession of the goal in the replay. At the Canal End, I had a bird’s eye view of that calamity. It is difficult to believe that a defensive unit could behave so naively, even allowing for the generous steps. Basic defending would have been somebody to rush out and take him head on , conceding a yellow card of course. I think if somebody is making a case for the defence that case of schoolboy defending needs to be highlighted because , very likely , it turned the game Dublin’s way after our heroic comeback . And of course, in the same campaign you can’t forget the , at times , shambolic defending in the Munster final.
Kimgdomson, I don’t think there is a whole lot of disagreement between us but I do submit that we have greater problems in defence whereas a more positive approach by management would unleash the potential we have up front.
Midfield of course another story.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 3, 2021 22:26:54 GMT
Murchan's goal started with him being unmarked for a typical loose ball and as all our defenders were 1 om 1 nobody could go for him. Maybe we were caught on the hop it all happened so quick.
I feel the argument here is tipping to and fro basically because we are nearly as good as the Dubs on most lines and so it is more a question of how they will beat us and yes, it will only be marginal - a wee err here, a bit of luck there, etc.
Being overpowered on one line puts pressure elsewhere and so the domino effect. Still Murchan's run would challenge any set-up and you'd wonder if the scenario could be 'reverse engineered.'
I come back to my old arguments re DB and managers having Celtic Crosses rattling in their own pockets. Ok, no team has everything, well apart from Dublin and who are close enough, and so to beat them you must not leave anything you have control over to chance. Of course that's easier said than done but Kerry has enormous resources and it is hard to see how we may not tick all the boxes that are under our control.
We need to look at what is working for other successful counties and adapt it to our circumstances. Do counties focus on a management pipeline, succession planning?
Ah we might bring Sam, home in 2021, with a bit of luck, good luck!
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 4, 2021 14:25:26 GMT
The team from our last match along with subs and others who did not make the match day panel for various reasons. I have probably omitted a few lads who are training with the squad - Not sure of the status of some like Mike Breen etc. Can anybody fill in the missing names. Any other likely departures and additions?
1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Tom O'Sullivan 5. Paul Murphy 6. Peter Crowley 7. Gavin White 8. David Moran 9. Diarmuid O'Connor 10. Stephen O'Brien 11. Seán O'Shea 12. Ronan Buckley 13. Tony Brosnan 14. David Clifford 15. Dara Moynihan Subs B. Kelly G. Crowley J. Barry B. Ò Beaglaoich K. Spillane T. Walsh J. Sherwood G. O’Sullivan M. Burns S. Enright P. Clifford Others/Injured J Lynne – now retired P Geaney J O Donoghue J O Connor
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Post by onlykerry on Jan 4, 2021 14:33:33 GMT
The late Weeshie Forgarty built a fabulous database of kerry players at all grades which is to be found at www.terracetalk.com/kerry-football/Unfortunately nobody has taken this over and continued his work - the last updates are back in 2017. Does anybody know the status/ownership of this database and whether or not it could be continued by the county board, supporters club or other interested party. Seems such a shame to let his work slip into disuse.
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Post by greengold35 on Jan 4, 2021 17:20:15 GMT
The team from our last match along with subs and others who did not make the match day panel for various reasons. I have probably omitted a few lads who are training with the squad - Not sure of the status of some like Mike Breen etc. Can anybody fill in the missing names. Any other likely departures and additions? 1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Tom O'Sullivan 5. Paul Murphy 6. Peter Crowley 7. Gavin White 8. David Moran 9. Diarmuid O'Connor 10. Stephen O'Brien 11. Seán O'Shea 12. Ronan Buckley 13. Tony Brosnan 14. David Clifford 15. Dara Moynihan Subs B. Kelly G. Crowley J. Barry B. Ò Beaglaoich K. Spillane T. Walsh J. Sherwood G. O’Sullivan M. Burns S. Enright P. Clifford Others/Injured J Lynne – now retired P Geaney J O Donoghue J O Connor Pa Kilkenny, Mike Breen, Liam Kearney,Adrian Spillane, David Shaw, Kevin O’Sullivan & I think Ronan Murphy were all part of the extended panel - management have added some new faces for the year ahead with the addition of the likes of Eddie Horan from recent minor winning sides.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Jan 4, 2021 17:40:55 GMT
The team from our last match along with subs and others who did not make the match day panel for various reasons. I have probably omitted a few lads who are training with the squad - Not sure of the status of some like Mike Breen etc. Can anybody fill in the missing names. Any other likely departures and additions? 1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Tom O'Sullivan 5. Paul Murphy 6. Peter Crowley 7. Gavin White 8. David Moran 9. Diarmuid O'Connor 10. Stephen O'Brien 11. Seán O'Shea 12. Ronan Buckley 13. Tony Brosnan 14. David Clifford 15. Dara Moynihan Subs B. Kelly G. Crowley J. Barry B. Ò Beaglaoich K. Spillane T. Walsh J. Sherwood G. O’Sullivan M. Burns S. Enright P. Clifford Others/Injured J Lynne – now retired P Geaney J O Donoghue J O Connor Pa Kilkenny, Mike Breen, Liam Kearney,Adrian Spillane, Kevin O’Sullivan & I think Ronan Murphy were all part of the extended panel - management have added some new faces for the year ahead with the addition of the likes of Eddie Horan from recent minor winning sides. Do you know who else has been added to the panel?
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Post by hurlingman on Jan 4, 2021 18:19:48 GMT
Who's likely to replace Kelly now as sub keeper?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Jan 4, 2021 18:54:44 GMT
The late Weeshie Forgarty built a fabulous database of kerry players at all grades which is to be found at www.terracetalk.com/kerry-football/Unfortunately nobody has taken this over and continued his work - the last updates are back in 2017. Does anybody know the status/ownership of this database and whether or not it could be continued by the county board, supporters club or other interested party. Seems such a shame to let his work slip into disuse. Just let TCB Chairman or PRO know - they will know best how to channel it so that it is maintained and also kept under control, i.e. it is part of their system, otherwise it could again fall by the way side. May also have a role in Library ref but it needs to the channelled through TCB methinks.
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