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Post by The16thMan on Nov 24, 2020 15:19:53 GMT
I found it very interesting that immediately after the Leinster Final hammering that Dublin dished out to Meath. Players and pundits took to social media to highlight the MASSIVE issue the G.A.A. have in Leinster in terms of a non-competitive Championship, something that has been going in for 10-15 years now obviously. John Connellan a former Westmeath player highlighted this, and not only about Leinster but how it is made the All-Ireland nearly as predictable. Obviously being from Kerry we like to say that we've a good shout of beating Dublin and we've probably come (arguably) the closest in recent years to beating them but it does appear that they will not be stopped anytime soon and the letter John posted is becoming very valid. I'm concerned that people outside of Dublin will turn their heads away from football in turns of match attendances and participation as people aren't going to pay good money to watch Dublin steamroll everyone on their way to multiple All Irelands and it appears even some of the Dubs supporters have got sick of it. I remember in 2008 when Pillar Caffreys Dublin hammered Wexford in a Leinster final in front of a full house in Croke Park, these days if you turn up to watch a Leinster Final with Dublin involved you'd be lucky to get 50,000 (permitting fans be allowed in of course) at a Leinster Final. Last September we had 33,000 at an All Ireland Semi between Tyrone & Kerry mainly due to the fact the AI series has lost it's competitive edge, hurling of course draws very different crowds. I'm amazed the GAA (with a Dublin President of course) has sat back and done nothing to address this, they are happy to rake in the cash from Dublins market value but leave the rest of the country suffer and in turn attendances are falling and our games are loosing their appeal. There's a reason you see no Dublin players going to Australia these days but you do from any other county. It sickens me to say this but with the way things are going it doesn't look likely things will change this side of 2025 either, being realistic. This link will take you to an article containing John Connellan's Open Letter : www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ex-westmeath-player-calls-on-county-boards-to-boycott-leinster-championship-unless-funding-disparities-tackled-39779021.htmlI recommend to read it as it is very interesting although not something we didn't already know
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 16:06:27 GMT
I have said it before and i will say it again. I am convinced the long term strategy is to split Dublin.
All thats needed now is a few more ...9 in a row should make it inevitable.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 24, 2020 16:17:49 GMT
I have said it before and i will say it again. I am convinced the long term strategy is to split Dublin. All thats needed now is a few more ...9 in a row should make it inevitable. Splitting them in 2 should be the last resort in my opinion, they should start by cutting the funding they give Dublin,leave Dublin run themselves as they're very capable of doing so. That €16m spent on Dublin should be divided evenly between the 32 counties (extra €500k each). Then give it 5 years to see if it is closing the gap any bit. Ensure every other club in the other counties have Games Development Officers like every club in Dublin has. Then see what is happening. If no difference is being made, then look at more extreme measures like splitting Dublin.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 24, 2020 16:28:56 GMT
One interesting aspect of funding is that while Kerry and Mayo have to fundraise of the order of one million per year the Dubs only have to raise about 5% of that.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Nov 24, 2020 17:46:40 GMT
The fact that this has been allowed to go on for so long just shows the bias towards money as opposed to providing an equitable competition that is inherent at the top of the GAA.
The original recommendation was that Dublin would be split & would get a large injection of development cash hand in hand with this.
The Dubs just said no & got the money anyway!
How the f*ck was that allowed to happen? We have more or less killed competition in Leinster for the last & next decades in order for a few clubs in each county to get €10k here or there.
Dublin will win 7 ,at worst, out of the next ten & thats on the head of the GAA. Imagine using your own money to more or less kill off competition in your own games? Must be the only organisation to ever do so
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 24, 2020 18:15:41 GMT
Dublin senior footballers is but one of their many county teams so splitting the county will hardly happen and I can't see a partial split. Of course you could say that such a move could prevent the same happening with all those other competition but would you win the argument?
Dublin are also losers with such lack of competition.
I also pointed out previously that by the time this debate is finished we may have come to the end of the cycle of Dublin's reign so nothing will be done, that is until the cycle starts again - that is unless they keep winning.
Someone said it isn't about money but then why give the leaders the most? I think this is the first aspect to be addressed and what will be carved up and how will be interesting. Will GAA central funding take account of what counties might be getting in sponsorship? If it does then sponsorship will fall, if it doesn't then nothing will change.
The ultimate is a handicappers finish, i.e. the entire field of runners across the track as they approach the finish line - and good luck with that.
I feel the GAA must engage with the community here and in a meaningful manner.
There is a big prize here, and it can be won, or lost - and if it is lost then well lose, and given that Dublin has the biggest population they stand to lose the most.
What we are talking about here is getting back into kilter and maybe we need to look at other sporting organisations, though few will face the same challenge.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 18:30:11 GMT
Why dont the other counties grow a pair and simply refuse to play Dublin.
Look at how quickly the GAA rolled over when they realised Newbridgeornowhere was actually serious.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 18:31:20 GMT
Imagine using your own money to more or less kill off competition in your own games? Must be the only organisation to ever do so 😄😄
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 18:48:50 GMT
I have said it before and i will say it again. I am convinced the long term strategy is to split Dublin. All thats needed now is a few more ...9 in a row should make it inevitable. Splitting them in 2 should be the last resort in my opinion, they should start by cutting the funding they give Dublin,leave Dublin run themselves as they're very capable of doing so. That €16m spent on Dublin should be divided evenly between the 32 counties (extra €500k each). Then give it 5 years to see if it is closing the gap any bit. Ensure every other club in the other counties have Games Development Officers like every club in Dublin has. Then see what is happening. If no difference is being made, then look at more extreme measures like splitting Dublin. This would do nothing. Dublin are well able to generate the funds required from their commercial partners to fund whatever they want to do. Commercial income must be pooled, coaching funds should be more evenly distributed and Dublin should play the majority of their home league games in Parnell Park. Dublin will still win a lot by virtue of their population but at least other counties will have the opportunity to prepare in a similar manner
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Post by Galway breeze on Nov 24, 2020 19:01:56 GMT
So, people are saying that Dublin are winning all Ireland’s because they are flush with cash and the Gaa organisation are responsible. IMO money is a very small part of winning championships as see in Boxing, hockey, long distance running etc. How did Kerry win 4 in a row it wasn’t down to money I can assure you that it was training hard and balls excuse the language. If Waterford football was wealthier then Dublin would they be winning all Ireland’s douth it very much. Dublin found good coaches in clubs and nurtured them over years regardless of their economic background or popularity. Where other county’s are very selective in who coaches at inter county and push these very good club coach out of the system once past juvenile level. The main thing that needs to change in countries is the process of coaching over years with continuity and same for players.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 24, 2020 19:19:22 GMT
A mistake people make in this conversation is looking at Dublin's success and saying it is down to money alone.
Or similarly in trying to negate the above, trying to say there are factors as well as money, but failing, and saying instead that money isn't a factor at all.
Both positions are incorrect.
My feeling is that the GAA is right to spend money trying to get as many people as possible into GAA, but what perhaps we are seeing is that the Dublin County Board are getting a very easy ride indeed because monies they should be putting into games development are already allocated, and this allows them to have the best of everything for their senior side.
They don't have to fundraise. They have bigger sponsorship deals. This is the easier ride.
And it's difficult because we should be balancing fairness with the laudable goal of getting as many people as possible involved in GAA.
I am loathe to saying that (because of money or otherwise) Dublin are some unbeatable dreadnought because it is tantamount to surrender, and, if you bring in money, denies a great side their dues, because whatever the difference that money makes, the Dublin side still has to go out and perform, etc., and I think it is very sour grapes to bring up money every five seconds.
That would be my bias that would lead people to call me an Uncle Tom.
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Post by buck02 on Nov 24, 2020 19:23:25 GMT
What about the Hurlers? Why aren't they winning everything.
Nobody had a problem coming to play Dublin in Croke Park before 2011.
What about all the youngsters in the schools who want to play soccer and rugby.
I said I'd help out any Dubs contributors although they will probably be busy trying to make up reasons as to why they won't beat Cavan by 15 or 20 points.
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Post by john4 on Nov 24, 2020 19:36:53 GMT
Dublin has a huge population, almost 3 times that of Cork City and county, yet both counties Gaa Twitter pages have almost the same amount of followers @ 100,000, which would indicate that there are roughly the same amount of people in both counties with an interest in their Gaelic games activities.
Galway breeze makes a good point in that things are a little different in Dublin in terms of the acceptance of new ideas or new people in clubs, without history or snobbery by backward thinking club or county executives.
On the face of it all the money they're getting appears unfair on everyone else, but it appears they've spent it wisely.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 20:08:12 GMT
If money is unimportant to Dublin's success why is it that they were so bad before the money arrived?
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 20:14:03 GMT
What about the Hurlers? Why aren't they winning everything. You are forgetting the Jim Byrne factor
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Post by givehimaball on Nov 24, 2020 20:58:09 GMT
What about the Hurlers? Why aren't they winning everything. Dublin won their first senior Leinster in 52 years in 2013. They've also got to a fair few Leinster finals during a time period where Kilkenny were as strong as they've ever been and at a time when Galway have been playing in Leinster (something that wasn't an issue pre 2000) They have won 4 U21 Leinster titles in the last 14 years compared to 2 in the 43 years prior to that. They have won 5 Minor Leinster hurling titles in the last 14 years compared to 11 in the 79 years prior to that. Cuala's 2 club All-Ireland wins in 2017 and 2018 were the first and second times a Dublin hurling club got to the club final and won it. Their Leinster wins were the 2nd and 3rd times a Dublin hurling club had won a Leinster senior club hurling title. The main reason Dublin aren't winning "everything" in hurling is Dublin were coming from a much much lower place compared to football. In the 52 years between Dublin winning a Leinster hurling title in 1961 and 2013, they won 25 Leinster football titles and 7 All-Ireland football titles, getting to 14 All-Ireland football finals in total during that time period. In John Costello's 2018 annual report he pointed out that the GoGames program "over the last 10 years, has seen a participation growth of 58% in football and 98% in hurling and 11,500 fixtures scheduled annually for children in the Under 8 to Under 12 age groups." It's only a matter of time before those numbers filter through at senior level. It would be an interesting comparison to see how that 11,500 fixtures in a year for children in the Under 8 to Under 12 age groups compares accross individual counties, provinces and the country as a whole.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 24, 2020 21:15:24 GMT
If money is unimportant to Dublin's success why is it that they were so bad before the money arrived? Sorry Mick but if you say Dublins success is down to talent alone your talking complete and utter s**t. Dublin always have had a big population but it wasn't until when Seán Kelly pumped money in in 2006 when progress began to be made. They have a GDO for each club where I think Kerry have only 10 at the very most in football. I think more like 7, but could be wrong. Kieran Donaghy even said it himself that instead of soccer jerseys you see people wearing the Sky Blue nowadays. 15 years ago it was Cork dominating ladies football now it is Dublin. The way Dublin have improved in Football (Mens & Ladies), Hurling and Camogie to a lesser extent since that money started being pumped it is extremely clear for everyone to see. The reason you see it more in Football is cause Dublin is traditionally a footballing county so naturally there is more interest there. Dublin now have a platform where they can attract the best players and keep them where as most counties don't there is a reason no Dubs go to Australia unlike in Kerry where you have had potentially key players such O'Connor & Okunbar heading away. Yes Dublin are a hugely talented team, and it is a huge reason for their 5 in a row but the money they've used to recruit these players is a massive reason as to why they have such a pool of talent.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 24, 2020 21:19:28 GMT
If money is unimportant to Dublin's success why is it that they were so bad before the money arrived? Sorry Mick but if you say Dublins success is down to talent alone your talking complete and utter s**t. Dublin always have had a big population but it wasn't until when Seán Kelly pumped money in in 2006 when progress began to be made. They have a GDO for each club where I think Kerry have only 10 at the very most in football. I think more like 7, but could be wrong. Kieran Donaghy even said it himself that instead of soccer jerseys you see people wearing the Sky Blue nowadays. 15 years ago it was Cork dominating ladies football now it is Dublin. The way Dublin have improved in Football (Mens & Ladies), Hurling and Camogie to a lesser extent since that money started being pumped it is extremely clear for everyone to see. The reason you see it more in Football is cause Dublin is traditionally a footballing county so naturally there is more interest there. Dublin now have a platform where they can attract the best players and keep them where as most counties don't there is a reason no Dubs go to Australia unlike in Kerry where you have had potentially key players such O'Connor & Okunbar heading away. Yes Dublin are a hugely talented team, and it is a huge reason for their 5 in a row but the money they've used to recruit these players is a massive reason as to why they have such a pool of talent. I should never speak for Mick but he was asking a rhetorical question.
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Post by jackiel on Nov 24, 2020 21:21:46 GMT
The money doesn't necessarily make success but it does provide more GPO's in clubs than other counties can dream of. In Meath some GPO's are shared by 3-4 clubs while in Dublin some clubs have 4 of their own. Dublin were well ahead of the posse putting GPO's in place and have reaped the rewards while others follow in their wake.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 21:31:24 GMT
What about the Hurlers? Why aren't they winning everything. Dublin won their first senior Leinster in 52 years in 2013. They've also got to a fair few Leinster finals during a time period where Kilkenny were as strong as they've ever been and at a time when Galway have been playing in Leinster (something that wasn't an issue pre 2000) They have won 4 U21 Leinster titles in the last 14 years compared to 2 in the 43 years prior to that. They have won 5 Minor Leinster hurling titles in the last 14 years compared to 11 in the 79 years prior to that. Cuala's 2 club All-Ireland wins in 2017 and 2018 were the first and second times a Dublin hurling club got to the club final and won it. Their Leinster wins were the 2nd and 3rd times a Dublin hurling club had won a Leinster senior club hurling title. The main reason Dublin aren't winning "everything" in hurling is Dublin were coming from a much much lower place compared to football. In the 52 years between Dublin winning a Leinster hurling title in 1961 and 2013, they won 25 Leinster football titles and 7 All-Ireland football titles, getting to 14 All-Ireland football finals in total during that time period. In John Costello's 2018 annual report he pointed out that the GoGames program "over the last 10 years, has seen a participation growth of 58% in football and 98% in hurling and 11,500 fixtures scheduled annually for children in the Under 8 to Under 12 age groups." It's only a matter of time before those numbers filter through at senior level. It would be an interesting comparison to see how that 11,500 fixtures in a year for children in the Under 8 to Under 12 age groups compares accross individual counties, provinces and the country as a whole. Its a lot harder to grow hurling than football. There was never much of a hurling tradition in Dublin despite their 6 All Irelands in hurling. Jim Byrne remains the only native Dubliner to win an all ireland hurling senior medal...that was in 1938. By comparison Kerry have 21 plus subs!
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 21:33:10 GMT
Sorry Mick but if you say Dublins success is down to talent alone your talking complete and utter s**t. Dublin always have had a big population but it wasn't until when Seán Kelly pumped money in in 2006 when progress began to be made. They have a GDO for each club where I think Kerry have only 10 at the very most in football. I think more like 7, but could be wrong. Kieran Donaghy even said it himself that instead of soccer jerseys you see people wearing the Sky Blue nowadays. 15 years ago it was Cork dominating ladies football now it is Dublin. The way Dublin have improved in Football (Mens & Ladies), Hurling and Camogie to a lesser extent since that money started being pumped it is extremely clear for everyone to see. The reason you see it more in Football is cause Dublin is traditionally a footballing county so naturally there is more interest there. Dublin now have a platform where they can attract the best players and keep them where as most counties don't there is a reason no Dubs go to Australia unlike in Kerry where you have had potentially key players such O'Connor & Okunbar heading away. Yes Dublin are a hugely talented team, and it is a huge reason for their 5 in a row but the money they've used to recruit these players is a massive reason as to why they have such a pool of talent. I should never speak for Mick but he was asking a rhetorical question. I dont know about never speaking for me! You tell me what i should say and not say often enough... 😋
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Post by Galway breeze on Nov 24, 2020 21:35:57 GMT
Mickmack Dublin must have had money in the 70 where they were very dominant. Then the money was transfer to Kerry because Kerry became very dominant in 80s and the money was split between Kerry, Cork, Tyrone and Dublin during 90s and more given to Kerry again during 2000-10 then all the money was transferred back to Dublin as Kerry and Cork only won one all Ireland. What about Galway, Donegal and god love Mayo they got banks of money but spent it badly on top Coaches. God lads spot with the money excuses and get back to the real issue which is clubs coaching and player participation longevity.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 24, 2020 21:49:10 GMT
Mickmack Dublin must have had money in the 70 where they were very dominant. Then the money was transfer to Kerry because Kerry became very dominant in 80s and the money was split between Kerry, Cork, Tyrone and Dublin during 90s and more given to Kerry again during 2000-10 then all the money was transferred back to Dublin as Kerry and Cork only won one all Ireland. What about Galway, Donegal and god love Mayo they got banks of money but spent it badly on top Coaches. God lads spot with the money excuses and get back to the real issue which is clubs coaching and player participation longevity. You are missing the point i am afraid. Every county can get its golden generation thats lasts maybe 10 years before fading. Examples are.... Dublin and Kerry in the 70s ..... Tyrone in 2003 to 2008..... KK hurlers..... The situation with Dublin now is the opposite..... a constant flood of players on a conveyor belt that simply cannot come to an end simply because of the numbers playing the game and the army of 'paid volunteers' to keep it going. The top players coming through are brought on quickly as none head away out of Dublin to go to college. Can you not figure this out for yourself. Its not hard.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 24, 2020 22:45:06 GMT
Mickmack Dublin must have had money in the 70 where they were very dominant. Then the money was transfer to Kerry because Kerry became very dominant in 80s and the money was split between Kerry, Cork, Tyrone and Dublin during 90s and more given to Kerry again during 2000-10 then all the money was transferred back to Dublin as Kerry and Cork only won one all Ireland. What about Galway, Donegal and god love Mayo they got banks of money but spent it badly on top Coaches. God lads spot with the money excuses and get back to the real issue which is clubs coaching and player participation longevity. You are missing the point i am afraid. Every county can get its golden generation thats lasts maybe 10 years before fading. Examples are.... Dublin and Kerry in the 70s ..... Tyrone in 2003 to 2008..... KK hurlers..... The situation with Dublin now is the opposite..... a constant flood of players on a conveyor belt that simply cannot come to an end simply because of the numbers playing the game and the army of 'paid volunteers' to keep it going. The top players coming through are brought on quickly as none head away out of Dublin to go to college. Can you not figure this out for yourself. Its not hard. 100% agree and the scariest thing is that the GAA seem to be content in letting it happen even though Dublin don't need the funds anymore. It'll get to the stage eventually where people will stop being interested in senior intercounty football as it'll be the same team winning the whole time and eventually memberships and attendances will drop. Therefore sponsorships will be driven elsewhere to games that people are attracted to. Eventually the GAA will be the victim of their own downfalls by not listening to it's members. Hurling nearly always has a different winner every year the past 10 years which is why the attendances are much greater than football, the GAA need to support the weaker to get stronger.. not the stronger to become even stronger like they are currently doing.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 24, 2020 23:03:27 GMT
You are missing the point i am afraid. Every county can get its golden generation thats lasts maybe 10 years before fading. Examples are.... Dublin and Kerry in the 70s ..... Tyrone in 2003 to 2008..... KK hurlers..... The situation with Dublin now is the opposite..... a constant flood of players on a conveyor belt that simply cannot come to an end simply because of the numbers playing the game and the army of 'paid volunteers' to keep it going. The top players coming through are brought on quickly as none head away out of Dublin to go to college. Can you not figure this out for yourself. Its not hard. 100% agree and the scariest thing is that the GAA seem to be content in letting it happen even though Dublin don't need the funds anymore. It'll get to the stage eventually where people will stop being interested in senior intercounty football as it'll be the same team winning the whole time and eventually memberships and attendances will drop. Therefore sponsorships will be driven elsewhere to games that people are attracted to. Eventually the GAA will be the victim of their own downfalls by not listening to it's members. Hurling nearly always has a different winner every year the past 10 years which is why the attendances are much greater than football, the GAA need to support the weaker to get stronger.. not the stronger to become even stronger like they are currently doing. On what grounds do you say hurling attendances are "much greater" than football?
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 25, 2020 1:13:54 GMT
100% agree and the scariest thing is that the GAA seem to be content in letting it happen even though Dublin don't need the funds anymore. It'll get to the stage eventually where people will stop being interested in senior intercounty football as it'll be the same team winning the whole time and eventually memberships and attendances will drop. Therefore sponsorships will be driven elsewhere to games that people are attracted to. Eventually the GAA will be the victim of their own downfalls by not listening to it's members. Hurling nearly always has a different winner every year the past 10 years which is why the attendances are much greater than football, the GAA need to support the weaker to get stronger.. not the stronger to become even stronger like they are currently doing. On what grounds do you say hurling attendances are "much greater" than football? Can only obviously compare Leinster and Munster as Hurling only has those 2 provinces as well as semis and finals Hurling Leinster finals 2018:47,000 & 2019:51,500 Munster Finals 2018:45,364 & 2019:44,052 2018 Semi Finals 54,000 & 71,073 2019 Semis : 55,000 & 61,852 2018 AI Final: 82,300 2019 AI Final: 82,300 Football 2018 Leinster Final 41,728 2019 Leinster Final 47,027 2018 Munster Final 27,764 2019 Munster Final 18,265 2018 Semi Finals: 54,716 & 49,696 2019 Semi Finals: 82,300 & 33,848 2018 AI Final: 82,300 2019 AI Final: 82,300 *Note* The only sell out apart from AI finals (which will sell out no matter what until Dublin start doing 9 or 10 in a row) was a game involving Dublin and Mayo and more due to the fact Mayo fans travel in huge numbers also. You can clearly see the hurling seems to be more of an interest to be people in recent years than it is in football, apart from Dublin semi finals and finals. That's down to being a sport where a number of teams can win, in football realistically it's only one team thats winning.Those numbers will continue to drop, as long as Dublin dominate numbers wil decline more.
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Post by dc84 on Nov 25, 2020 10:42:22 GMT
On what grounds do you say hurling attendances are "much greater" than football? Can only obviously compare Leinster and Munster as Hurling only has those 2 provinces as well as semis and finals Hurling Leinster finals 2018:47,000 & 2019:51,500 Munster Finals 2018:45,364 & 2019:44,052 2018 Semi Finals 54,000 & 71,073 2019 Semis : 55,000 & 61,852 2018 AI Final: 82,300 2019 AI Final: 82,300 Football 2018 Leinster Final 41,728 2019 Leinster Final 47,027 2018 Munster Final 27,764 2019 Munster Final 18,265 2018 Semi Finals: 54,716 & 49,696 2019 Semi Finals: 82,300 & 33,848 2018 AI Final: 82,300 2019 AI Final: 82,300 *Note* The only sell out apart from AI finals (which will sell out no matter what until Dublin start doing 9 or 10 in a row) was a game involving Dublin and Mayo and more due to the fact Mayo fans travel in huge numbers also. You can clearly see the hurling seems to be more of an interest to be people in recent years than it is in football, apart from Dublin semi finals and finals. That's down to being a sport where a number of teams can win, in football realistically it's only one team thats winning.Those numbers will continue to drop, as long as Dublin dominate numbers wil decline more. While i agree to the principle of whst your saying comparing the munster hurling and football is not really valid. Be like comparing waterford football attendances vs hurling or donegal football vs hurling apples and oranges.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Nov 25, 2020 12:00:42 GMT
The money doesn't necessarily make success but it does provide more GPO's in clubs than other counties can dream of. In Meath some GPO's are shared by 3-4 clubs while in Dublin some clubs have 4 of their own. Dublin were well ahead of the posse putting GPO's in place and have reaped the rewards while others follow in their wake. there are 14 clubs in kerry sharing one GDA, and all the national schools connected tp those clubs share the same man...
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Post by inforthebreaks on Nov 25, 2020 12:14:36 GMT
The only way to properly assess the impact of money being spent in Dublin is to do a survey of all 8 to 16 year olds in the country who are playing GAA. If the young players in Dublin are shown to have far greater access to top level coaching, directly as a result of GAA funding, then it can be seen as an unfair advantage. If they are not then we just have to shut up and work at making ourselves better, not worry about money etc in Dublin.
Whatever money Dublin get from AIG etc is nobodies business but their own. I would wager that we in Kerry do very very well from Kerry Group and other associations with sponsors etc.
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 25, 2020 12:50:53 GMT
We are only fooling ourselves regards money & access to facilities; Bryan Cullen is High Performance Manager of Dublin’s “ academy” and has modelled his team on exactly what Leinster rugby have in place having learnt the ropes there for in excess of 4 years.
Dublin have a veritable army of paid /trained personnel reporting to & supporting Cullen - 19/20 year olds are not considered for the senior set up until they have achieved specific targets as laid down by the academy. No player makes it into the senior panel until physically ready - hence the seamless transition of McDaid /Bugler into senior ranks. It is highly unlikely that were say Diarmuid O’Connor in the Dublin set up that he would have played senior inter county championship yet - he would have to bide his time with the U-20s and reach certain KPIs - access to money opens up all the benefits professional elite athletes enjoy - this is borne out with Dublin having access to DCU, oxygen chambers for recovery etc - they also can call upon the expertise of professional S & C coaches, physios etc - you name it, they have it - their back room team is comprised of over 30 people all experts in their chosen areas - sprint coaches, specialists in all disciplines.
These guys may have been coached by GDAs but their ongoing development is akin to that of professional sports men. Dublin have dominated Leinster to the point that prompted John Connellen’s letter - this domination of the All Ireland championship by Dublin will soon follow their path in Leinster with them reaching double figures in terms of winning All Ireland’s - it will be 6 in a row this year, who is to say by 2025 it won’t be 11 in a row???
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