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Post by southward on Nov 8, 2020 18:32:28 GMT
Jesus David Moran what are you at 3 times in tge second period, David lost the plot. 1 crazy long kick that DChad no chance with. And 2 lunatic, low percentage efforts. Inexcusae lack of composure for one so inexperienced. Yeah, Moran, Jesus f*ckin Christ! Nearly put the telly through the wall when he did it again on our last possession; the outcome was inevitable after that.
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Post by gaelicden on Nov 8, 2020 18:33:52 GMT
I hope losing in Munster brings these lads on (like the dubs losing to Meath 10 years ago), I'm probably just whinging but the thought that an AFL contracted player can come on and score the Winning goal, when we've had match winning players leave the panel for Australia... But I suppose that's life. I also wonder are cork feeling the Cian O'Neill effect?
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Post by mossie on Nov 8, 2020 18:37:04 GMT
kerry lucky Cork point blank refusing to hit a high ball into him If they did, Cork would have the game won ha, wise words sure it was as plain as the nose on my face no wisdom in it it wasnt even a pass to him, a shot dropping short which makes it even sadder again kerry left an all ireland behind them in the drawn AIF last year by handpassing across the field when it was clear Tommy Walsh had the the dublin full back line in a state of panic crying out for ball gaelic football just sad now that teams wont go for it
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 8, 2020 18:39:04 GMT
Kerry have only themselves to blame. Sloppy errors kepts Cork in the game, gave them the oxygen they needed. David Moran lost his composure, we needed to keep the ball down by the Cork goal not kick a hail mary into the sky. Fair play to Cork for not giving up even when it looked like it wasn't going to be their day towards the end. This game falls into the same bracket as Dublin in 2011, a game we were in control of but threw away. A real hard to take.
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Post by exiled on Nov 8, 2020 18:41:31 GMT
Not players fault. Game management terrible..Keane had his chance and blinked both tines. Time for a different manager with a different outlook.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 8, 2020 18:43:30 GMT
Jesus David Moran what are you at 3 times in tge second period, David lost the plot. 1 crazy long kick that DChad no chance with. And 2 lunatic, low percentage efforts. Inexcusae lack of composure for one so inexperienced. Luke Connollys last point from a free came direct from one of David Morans lunatic low percentage efforts. The goal came from the other. In the 2019 drawn final with Kerry a point up he took on a run and brought the ball into the tackle and lost it...Dublin got the equaliser. In the Kerry Monaghan game in 2018 after Davids goal he kicked one of his trade mark hail marys much to David Cliffords rage. A Kerry point would have won the game. That said he put in a massive shift tonight and was probably exhausted at the end. Maybe he tries to hard to be the leader at a time when is out on his feet. Either way its a costly part of his game that has to be mentioned. When i saw the Kerry teamsheet for the 2019 game v Cork, I felt Kerry in 2020 was weaker without PGeaney and with Killian a sub. Cork won u20 last year and probably are better that the 2019 version. A few Kerry lads are not where they were last year such as SOB TomSullican and SOS to an extent. However this game was won and done. All it needed was a bit of game management.
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Post by dc84 on Nov 8, 2020 18:43:31 GMT
Not much to say about that really got what we deserved really. Some crazy decision making out there no one set out to lose but i think we set up to not lose rather than to win which is not our way.
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Post by onlykerry on Nov 8, 2020 18:49:13 GMT
Not players fault. Game management terrible..Keane had his chance and blinked both tines. Time for a different manager with a different outlook. Were you watching the same game - totally players fault - the chances we missed were bordering on criminal and we gave away cheap ball. We are all feeling pissed and peeved so best refrain from going after individuals until the shock wears off.
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Post by jumanji on Nov 8, 2020 18:49:51 GMT
Kerry were poor but.......David Moran🤬🤢
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 8, 2020 18:49:53 GMT
A lot to digest,
Initial thoughts that was the worst Kerry performance since 2001.
Strewn with error after error.
Big names failed to show up.
David Moran like against Dublin cost us today.
Cork fully deserved that win no complaints.
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Post by Premier on Nov 8, 2020 18:55:21 GMT
The Moran mistakes were criminal but Kerry should have had it long down up. Clifford missing frees he never does. Same for SOS. Playing two workers in the forwards was very strange. Cork passing back and forth with Kerry sitting in zones looking at them. Brosnan and Clifford must’ve been sick at the standard of ball either being kicked in or nothing coming in at all. One of the most peculiar tactical set ups I’ve seen in years
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Post by southward on Nov 8, 2020 18:56:32 GMT
Authors of our own misfortune but having said that we were completely luckless all day. Right from when the heavens opened in Cork (did it rain anywhere else in the country today?) There was a horrible inevitability about the goal; it was just that sort of day. And, I suppose, that sort of year.
Big whinge - time plus added time was well up when that goal went in. Also Kerry getting two black cards when Cork got away without any really hurt us.
Sickened, and that's putting it mildly.
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Post by ciarraigreenandgold on Nov 8, 2020 18:57:14 GMT
First post on the forum. Unbelievably disappointed after the match this evening. We seemed to have learned absolutely nothing over the last few years. There are numerous examples of how we have managed to not see a game out. Tonight is another prime example. Some examples:
- AIF last year, first day out, couldn't keep pocession with Dublin down to 14 men. - Donegal in super eight game. Gave away a tap over free to draw the game. - Cork in normal time tonight, again a handy free given instead of making a man take a shot on.
That comes down to the management (Peter Keane et al.) and game management by the players. One of our my most experienced players, David Moran, took on some inexcusable shots late on tonight to hand cork the opportunity to bring the game back to a point and then again for the goal. And he has done it consistently in the past. All that was required was keep ball and draw an easy free. Dublin are streets ahead of us and the gap isn't narrowing.
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Post by The16thMan on Nov 8, 2020 18:59:06 GMT
I'm guessing a lot of people will be asking for Peter Keane's head tonight. What ye reckon, and if so who to replace him?
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Post by john4 on Nov 8, 2020 18:59:44 GMT
We had only 3 inside forwards on the panel and one of these replacing another, Spillane for Brosnan. HTF, after all the minor wins have we arrived at this point
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Nov 8, 2020 19:00:03 GMT
Not players fault. Game management terrible..Keane had his chance and blinked both tines. Time for a different manager with a different outlook. I disagree. We were two points up with about a minute left and Moran booted a helpless ball into the forwards. We should have recycled the ball
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Post by ronaldo on Nov 8, 2020 19:08:54 GMT
Starting with 5 forwards instead of 6 showed negativity. I don't know why Moynihan or Brosnan were take off. We need to show more positivity in starting a game. It suited Cork. We haven't played well in the rain for years and that needs to be addressed. The goal at the end was shocking. Walsh or Ryan didn't even jump.
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Post by abù on Nov 8, 2020 19:09:10 GMT
I'm guessing a lot of people will be asking for Peter Keane's head tonight. What ye reckon, and if so who to replace him? There was 20 players who had a day where nothing went their way and most played well below their ability. Peter Keane was not one of them. Game plan is questionable, but to be asking for his head. Is that not a bit much.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 8, 2020 19:12:55 GMT
Some amount of hurt since 2011.
I am lucky enough that 95% of the pain in my life occurs post Kerry losses.
...and no pints to dull the pain.
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Post by kingdomkerry on Nov 8, 2020 19:13:45 GMT
Got what we deserved. Most wasteful I have ever seen a Kerry team. Sean Ó Shea anomynous for most of the game missed handy frees. Clifford missed two 21 yard frees and didn't take a mark in front of the goal. Moran.....enough said but the blame lies with Peter Keane for picking three forwards to play as backs and setting us up to play lateral basketball. Poor substitutions cost us the All Ireland last year and cost us again today.
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Post by brigid on Nov 8, 2020 19:13:56 GMT
Subs named now as well B. Kelly G. Crowley J. Barry B. Ò Beaglaoich K. Spillane T. Walsh J. Sherwood G. O’Sullivan M. Burns S. Enright P. Clifford No Geaney or O’Donoghue Out of all these subs I really only see one inside scoring forward, Killian Spillane. 5 backs, Barry and 2 runners in Clifford and Burns, Tommy Walsh is in there with a view to the mark. I'd like to have either Geaney or James O’Donoghue and leave out one of the backs Big mistake by team management having only one decent forward in the subs.
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Post by gaelicden on Nov 8, 2020 19:15:01 GMT
Some amount of hurt since 2011. I am lucky enough that 95% of the pain in my life occurs post Kerry losses. It'll 7 years without an All Ireland now, at what point do we constitute a famine? I'm a bit too young for the last one.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 8, 2020 19:16:52 GMT
I'm guessing a lot of people will be asking for Peter Keane's head tonight. What ye reckon, and if so who to replace him? exactly
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Post by Premier on Nov 8, 2020 19:17:01 GMT
I'm guessing a lot of people will be asking for Peter Keane's head tonight. What ye reckon, and if so who to replace him? There was 20 players who had a day where nothing went their way and most played well below their ability. Peter Keane was not one of them. Game plan is questionable, but to be asking for his head. Is that not a bit much. I wouldn’t be asking for his head at all, especially this year with the shorter turn around but definitely think he needs to be asked a few questions. Why move away from the attacking style from last year? Does he feel his backs are that poor that he needs to play two workers in the forwards? Had Kerry another kick out tactic other than kick it to Moran? Why persist with the naming of dummy teams? Is JOD injured or not cause this constant talk of he’s a small nick or he’s close isn’t doing anyone any favours, he’s either there or we are moving on
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Post by exiled on Nov 8, 2020 19:24:33 GMT
Not players fault. Game management terrible..Keane had his chance and blinked both tines. Time for a different manager with a different outlook. Were you watching the same game - totally players fault - the chances we missed were bordering on criminal and we gave away cheap ball. We are all feeling pissed and peeved so best refrain from going after individuals until the shock wears off. By game management I meant 15 men behind the ball...Tyrone style..puke football.
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Post by whacker on Nov 8, 2020 19:32:10 GMT
Not players fault. Game management terrible..Keane had his chance and blinked both tines. Time for a different manager with a different outlook. Players should own the loss but Keane is no help, said it last year but Keane has no clue
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Post by crokes86 on Nov 8, 2020 19:34:52 GMT
Terrible display and I think it is time for a change of Management. Peter and Co have taken us as far as they can taken us and we need a change. The shooting was awful. We have taken a step backwards. Have to give Cork credit. Great hunger and they never gave up. Dublins All Ireland to lose.
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Post by Deise Exile on Nov 8, 2020 19:36:42 GMT
Ah i think we can rise from this in 2021. Leave Keane there. today we under performed but lets not act like the English media lambasting management and players. All amateurs representing their county during a global pandemic. we'll learn from this. Good luck to Cork, can see Tipp shocking them in final. think Mayo or Donegal only ones that could topple Dublin. Roll on 2021
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 8, 2020 19:36:45 GMT
Terrible display and I think it is time for a change of Management. Peter and Co have taken us as far as they can taken us and we need a change. who would you suggest to take over
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Post by piggott on Nov 8, 2020 19:37:33 GMT
Is it time to take the picking of selectors out of the managers hand. Too many yes men on that line!
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