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Post by onlykerry on Nov 6, 2020 9:40:21 GMT
Cork give debuts to three players - all coming in from the U20 winning side of 2019. Interesting that all three start in key positions down the spine of the team - 3,6 & 11.
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Post by buck02 on Nov 6, 2020 9:41:14 GMT
I can't say I know much about a few of the Cork players, especially the backs.
Is this Michael Martins first championship game. Let's hope from kickouts that he is as indecisive as his father.
I assume Sean Powter named at corner back to follow Dara Moynihan or O Brien and try put them on the back when they drop deep.
Midfield will be a decent battle. Gavin Crowley will probably be needed in our half back line for Deane.
Jason Foley did well on Connolly the last time we played so I assume that will be the match up there. Hurley, while not the player he was, will still need to be tightly marked as he has a good eye for goal.
A plan will be needed if the big AFL man comes on in the FF line too, as we are weak under the high ball here.
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Post by taibhse on Nov 6, 2020 9:44:53 GMT
Jason is out of favour with 'Forum selectors', just like he was with PK until he wasn't. I also noticed him being told off to by a few laddos towards the end of the AI replay. A case of a defender can never play well as he gets the blame, in this case for team issues, i.e. we didn't convert enough. Still I'd qualify that as I haven't seen him in the flesh in a while and whatever about forwards, TV doesn't show tactical work done by defenders, and less so those tasked with the hardest job as vs Tyrone and Dubs. Who in the whole country could do a better job on McShane? Still it looks like we now have plenty of competition that maybe we didn't before and only time will tell if have we a vintage crop of greats or a batch of good ones. Looking at the Clubs of that Rebel team has me wondering how interesting a comparison it would be for our NK project given the greater diversity there - more of the hurling ingredient in the mix, yerra all for another day when there are no arguments in the air. Enjoy Sunday folks and hopefully things might go our way, ah jazus I just can't wait to tog off, nothing beats pulling the auld jersey on down over the auld ceann! Just to say that I have not wish to disparage Jason or any other player - the reverse in fact. He was an outstanding underage player and has most of his career in front of him. It is also worth pointing out that he has a good enough record against Cork. Connolly is a tallish lad and a player that he likes marking. Similarly with Rock, whereby he has done as well or better than most. It’s the smaller players than seem to cause him difficulty. He seems to settle into his game after a nervous start and has never really left down Kerry. You could fairly ask me to make up my mind. The question is, do we have better options? As in every contest, it will come down to matchups and for this game Jason will probably hold his place.
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Post by dc84 on Nov 6, 2020 10:56:35 GMT
What matchups would people see here for cork forward line? Id go Tom sull on Collins Morley on hurley Foley on Connolly
Half backs are tricky as ypu wouldnt be sure who would go where id worry about white or murphy on deane not sure they would be strong enough and id worry about peter Crowleys legs after the layoff thats why id go with Gavin Crowley on him he has the strenght and athletic abilty to counter him .
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Post by john4 on Nov 6, 2020 11:12:15 GMT
What matchups would people see here for cork forward line? Id go Tom sull on Collins Morley on hurley Foley on Connolly Half backs are tricky as ypu wouldnt be sure who would go where id worry about white or murphy on deane not sure they would be strong enough and id worry about peter Crowleys legs after the layoff thats why id go with Gavin Crowley on him he has the strenght and athletic abilty to counter him . Keeping Ruarai Deane quite is the key objective on Sunday, everything goes through him, I'd like to see Galvin White on him, Connelly in the inside line is the only real danger there.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 6, 2020 11:22:57 GMT
Gavin White seems a fair bit stronger than previous.
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Post by dc84 on Nov 6, 2020 12:28:01 GMT
Fair point on gavin white being stonger i just think we would get more out of him on someone else. Deane will probably start deeper anyway so will be a combination of midfielders as well.
Powter is a dangerous one although bedevilled with injury he is a serious player and will be tasked with whoever plays at 15 probably moynihan he will attack non stop and will need watching.
Overall though i cant see the cork backs holding our forward line especially the 2 lads inside .personally i think we need o brien in there he carries more of a scoring threat than Moynihan, burns, buckley or o connor. And not to forget was our thrid best forward last year and very unlucky not to get an all star.our backs seem to be playing more as a unit and the younger lads are stronger this year tom sull,foley and particularly white. If we stop the goals cork wont score the 16-20 points required to beat us i think it will be something like 1-17 to 1-11 to kerry on sunday.
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Post by veteran on Nov 6, 2020 13:19:41 GMT
That’s a smart looking Cork attacking unit, all natural scoring forwards. Midfield look strong as well . I am not very familiar with most of the Cork backs.
Last year , Ruiari Deane, in the early stages of the game, moved into corner forward and Paul Murphy followed him. Ruairi created havoc chiefly due to a height differential between Paul and himself. I trust Kerry management will not repeat that mistake this year but rather will get Jason, for example , to pick up Ruairi if he makes the same switch on Sunday.
If one is picking horses for courses , I would lean towards Brian O’Beaglaigh to take up Brian Hurley who is well able to score a goal or two.
At the other end of the field , Sean Powter is picked at corner back. I suspect he is picked there on the expectation that his opponent will wander way out the field where Sean can do untold damage with his greased lightning running. Again, another horse for a particular course , is there anything to be said for picking David Shaw or Killian Spillane in the corner with the goal of testing the Cork man in the air, thereby turning an apparent Cork strength into a Kerry strength.
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Post by buck02 on Nov 6, 2020 14:27:19 GMT
I see what you mean about Spillane or Shaw veteran but given the time of year, conditions etc I think it's unlikely that Kerry will play 3 inside as that would leave us short between the half back line and full forward line with 2 of the forwards allocated 'working half forward roles'.
This could change if there was a gale of wind that would allow 3 inside to be it early from our own half or midfield.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 6, 2020 14:37:36 GMT
Jason is out of favour with 'Forum selectors', just like he was with PK until he wasn't. I also noticed him being told off to by a few laddos towards the end of the AI replay. A case of a defender can never play well as he gets the blame, in this case for team issues, i.e. we didn't convert enough. Still I'd qualify that as I haven't seen him in the flesh in a while and whatever about forwards, TV doesn't show tactical work done by defenders, and less so those tasked with the hardest job as vs Tyrone and Dubs. Who in the whole country could do a better job on McShane? Still it looks like we now have plenty of competition that maybe we didn't before and only time will tell if have we a vintage crop of greats or a batch of good ones. Looking at the Clubs of that Rebel team has me wondering how interesting a comparison it would be for our NK project given the greater diversity there - more of the hurling ingredient in the mix, yerra all for another day when there are no arguments in the air. Enjoy Sunday folks and hopefully things might go our way, ah jazus I just can't wait to tog off, nothing beats pulling the auld jersey on down over the auld ceann! Just to say that I have not wish to disparage Jason or any other player - the reverse in fact. He was an outstanding underage player and has most of his career in front of him. It is also worth pointing out that he has a good enough record against Cork. Connolly is a tallish lad and a player that he likes marking. Similarly with Rock, whereby he has done as well or better than most. It’s the smaller players than seem to cause him difficulty. He seems to settle into his game after a nervous start and has never really left down Kerry. You could fairly ask me to make up my mind. The question is, do we have better options? As in every contest, it will come down to matchups and for this game Jason will probably hold his place. You are taking me far too serious and I wasn't singling out any comment, just idle chatter on my part. Sad as it sounds, how could anyone who has never even witnessed a single training session of this squad have an opinion, and regretfully I haven't been to as many games as I'd have liked. Still everyone is grateful for the TV these days, and live coverage, ah missed the auld NK games too and they give perspective to the county boyos, trying to pick up on how they differ at their respective levels - different ball games in a way!
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 6, 2020 14:46:01 GMT
BTW I thought teams had to be submitted Thurs night, or so said James Horan.
A local derby it is that can throw up surprises, with all the pressure on the favourites.
I was just having a browse through player profiles lately and the likelihood is that they are one of the greatest all time teams, so no pressure at all boys, no pressure.
I wonder if any of us has detail on the attrition rate with that Dublin team, i.e. how many left and joined the panel each year. We have a nice age spread in the panel and once a few start to stand up, I mean really stand up, then the flood gates will open and we will have 'leaders by example' all over the place.
So as I sais, no pressure, no, none at all!
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Post by dc84 on Nov 6, 2020 15:07:24 GMT
There has been a steady turnover in dublin but not dramatic next year will be interesting they have a lot of players in the early 30s bracket by then. Cluxton will be 39 Mcauley,mcmanaman, 34 Mcmahon,cian o'sullivan 33 Fitzsimons 32 Cooper,mcarthy, rock 31,
Now not all of them are starters anymore but lot of experience and sheer will to win gone particularly at the back. Add in brogan,daly,o gara,andrews,connolly thats a fair few gone obviously the addition of o'callaghan and murchan has helped but as far as i know they would be the only 2 starters under 25. Rock mcarthy cooper hardest to replace imo especially McCarthy
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Post by royalkerryfan on Nov 6, 2020 16:29:29 GMT
I think Kerry will want to make amends for the concession rate in last years Munster final. I think a lot of pundits formed an incorrect opinion on Kerry's defense based on that. Bearing in mind Kerry conceded the same or less against Dublin than both Mayo and Tyrone had in previous finals. Cork certainly an improving side but they are playing the best team in Ireland on form at present. I expect a good game but Kerry to prevail -7
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Nov 6, 2020 18:21:12 GMT
The team is named at 9pm tonight right? And the subs (wink)
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Post by piggott on Nov 6, 2020 20:07:26 GMT
Stephen O Brien replaces Burns only change. Jameso and Geaney not on first 15. No subs announced.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Nov 6, 2020 20:10:13 GMT
www.kerrygaa.ie/2020/11/team-announcement-kerry-vs-cork-munster-sfc/1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Tom O'Sullivan 5. Paul Murphy 6. Peter Crowley 7. Gavin White 8. David Moran 9. Diarmuid O'Connor 10. Stephen O'Brien 11. Seán O'Shea 12. Ronan Buckley 13. Tony Brosnan 14. David Clifford 15. Dara Moynihan One change to the team v Donegal with Stephen O'Brien coming in for Micheál Burns Edit: Apologies Piggott, I didn't see your post when I posted mine.
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Post by dc84 on Nov 6, 2020 20:12:14 GMT
No subs is annoying ! No great surprises really o brien in for burns wouldve been expected big game for moynihan,brosnan and peter Crowley in particular i am confident!
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Post by taggert on Nov 6, 2020 20:17:25 GMT
www.kerrygaa.ie/2020/11/team-announcement-kerry-vs-cork-munster-sfc/1. Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Tom O'Sullivan 5. Paul Murphy 6. Peter Crowley 7. Gavin White 8. David Moran 9. Diarmuid O'Connor 10. Stephen O'Brien 11. Seán O'Shea 12. Ronan Buckley 13. Tony Brosnan 14. David Clifford 15. Dara Moynihan One change to the team v Donegal with Stephen O'Brien coming in for Micheál Burns V sensible team and as expected some of the calls on here for the inclusion of a number of players who have little game time in their legs thankfully falling on deaf ears. Also, Burns profligacy in possession and questionable decision making seeing him make way also. As predicted. The East Kerry contingent benefitting from consistent high octane game time in the c'ship followed up by 2 full league games rendering them undroppable at this juncture.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 6, 2020 20:18:35 GMT
Can anyone advise of what cable is needed to connect a TV with a PC - TV may only be 'half-smart' - how do I know if this is possible, helping out an old friend here so might be tricky advising over the phone? Feel free to PM me and thanks.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2020 20:28:29 GMT
Can anyone advise of what cable is needed to connect a TV with a PC - TV may only be 'half-smart' - how do I know if this is possible, helping out an old friend here so might be tricky advising over the phone? Feel free to PM me and thanks. I have used a cable with HDMI at both ends for this purpose
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2020 20:34:10 GMT
How this game goes depends to a huge extent on the Cork keeper Micheal Martin.
In 2019 the Cork keeper did well and managed to give favourable kickouts to lads in red jerseys. Cork stayed in the game till the end as a result and Kerry were all the better for it.
In 2018 he gave his kickouts to lads in Kerry jerseys and as a result we had a farce of a match and Kerry looked great but we found out otherwise v Galway and Monaghan.
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Nov 6, 2020 20:58:25 GMT
I wonder will Peter Keane and Kerry get a pre game session on the field the day before like they did before the reopening of Páirc Uí Chaoimh? I don't know how FitzMaurice swindled that one when the Cork lads weren't allowed on the pitch until game time.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 6, 2020 21:11:57 GMT
Can anyone advise of what cable is needed to connect a TV with a PC - TV may only be 'half-smart' - how do I know if this is possible, helping out an old friend here so might be tricky advising over the phone? Feel free to PM me and thanks. I have used a cable with HDMI at both ends for this purpose Like USB only 2 corners rounded? Both the PC an TV in question have such ports. So just plug in and away we go?
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Post by dc84 on Nov 6, 2020 21:29:49 GMT
I have used a cable with HDMI at both ends for this purpose Like USB only 2 corners rounded? Both the PC an TV in question have such ports. So just plug in and away we go? Yup find the channel then using *source* on your remote it will be hdmi 1 or 2. Apologies if this is obvious and insulting
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2020 21:35:08 GMT
Like USB only 2 corners rounded? Both the PC an TV in question have such ports. So just plug in and away we go? Yup find the channel then using *source* on your remote it will be hdmi 1 or 2. Apologies if this is obvious and insulting You will have to "send" the sound from the PC to the TV if, like me, the PC is on one room and the TV is in another. There is a way to do that. However, if the PC and TV are next to each other you will be able to lisyen to the sound from the PC while watching the TV
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Post by Kerryman Randy Savage on Nov 6, 2020 22:01:21 GMT
Yup find the channel then using *source* on your remote it will be hdmi 1 or 2. Apologies if this is obvious and insulting You will have to "send" the sound from the PC to the TV if, like me, the PC is on one room and the TV is in another. There is a way to do that. However, if the PC and TV are next to each other you will be able to lisyen to the sound from the PC while watching the TV If you have difficulty with getting the sound over onto the TV and the laptop sound isn't loud enough, you can get cheap speakers to hook up to the laptop.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2020 22:35:39 GMT
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FRI, 06 NOV, 2020 - 19:00 EOGHAN CORMICAN
If Seán Powter starts as selected on Sunday afternoon, it will be his first championship start for Cork in three years, three months and 17 days.
Use of the word ‘if’ is unfortunately necessary in this instance given the persistent injury problems endured by the dynamic Cork footballer.
News of Powter’s latest brush with injury was delivered by Ronan McCarthy - via a Microsoft Teams call - on October 12, the Cork manager informing the media that the 23-year-old had given his hamstring a “little nick”.
The county’s first competitive fixture in seven and a half months was less than a week in the distance, but as he has had to do on too many occasions during his spell in charge, McCarthy ruled Powter out of contention.
“Seán was training very well. He gave his [hamstring] a small little nick. He has just started back running. We’ll see how we progress with him, but given his history over the last three years, we’ll take it cautiously,” said McCarthy.
On Tuesday week last, the manager was asked if the attacking half-back would be available for the Munster semi-final or if he was in danger of potentially missing out on yet another championship campaign.
“Seán Powter and Brian Hurley ... can I tell you today for definite they'll make the Kerry game? I can't. They are on the way back and we'll give them every chance right up to the middle of next week.”
Barring any 11th hour setback, the expectation is Powter will start. And of those who step inside the whitewash at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, few, if any, have been made to overcome as many hurdles as he to earn involvement.
Powter’s injury woes began on the very pitch he will motor up and down from 4pm on Sunday. After a 2017 campaign where he earned a young footballer of the year nomination and was included in the Ireland squad for the International Rules series in Australia, Powter’s 2018 inter-county season began and ended on the evening of the county’s Division 2 League opener at home to Tipperary.
The then 20-year-old had kicked a point and won a penalty when his right hamstring went 13 minutes into the second half. The road to recovery was anything but straightforward and he’d play only a handful of championship minutes with his club, Douglas, later that year.
His introduction for Michael Hurley 53 minutes into the county’s Round 4 Allianz League game against Meath in February of last year was his first inter-county appearance in 13 months and while he was again sprung from the bench in their subsequent two outings, the 2015 Cork minor captain was back on the injury list as the Munster championship came into view.
In an interview before last year’s provincial decider, Powter revealed that since the initial tear in January of 2018, he has torn his right hamstring a further three times and his left once.
"The first few times were ok, the fifth was the sucker punch, just because it was the left,” he said.
“If it goes again I will have to consider is it worth it. It's a seven-day recovery. I'm in the gym Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Sunday, and I swim the other days. It's all done by myself or with the physio.”
Powter’s 2019 championship amounted to 11 minutes at the end of the county’s Super 8s defeat to Tyrone in mid-July.
Lasting the full 70 minutes against Offaly in their Division 3 opener back in January was his first competitive inter-county start in two years and his first time starting and finishing a game in Cork colours since the 2017 Munster final.
“It was brilliant to see Seán back and playing the full game,” said McCarthy after the Offaly win.
Indeed, he’d start their five league games pre lockdown and was among the team’s top performers, his smart and direct running routinely upsetting opposition defences.
“Before [this year], I was going into training and matches, not even focusing on performance, just hoping I’d get through the game. But this year, I felt I was back to where I was a few years ago. The fitness was getting up and I was getting confidence in my football playing matches week in week out,” Powter said in May.
A calf muscle injury limited his involvement in Douglas’ Cork SFC campaign during the summer and while the recent hamstring nick threatened to once again confine him to a watching brief, it appears the medical student is poised to make just his fourth championship start in five seasons with Cork and his first in 1,205 days.
“What’s crucial for Cork on Sunday is, on the turnover, that they are attacking with pace, with the likes of Seán Powter and Mattie Taylor, these guys that have unbelievable leg speed. That is the best way that they are going to break Kerry down,” said Ciarán Sheehan on the Irish Examiner GAA podcast this week.
Powter’s worth to this Cork team, unlike his hamstrings, has never been in any doubt.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 6, 2020 23:25:53 GMT
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Post by Ballyfireside on Nov 6, 2020 23:28:28 GMT
Yup find the channel then using *source* on your remote it will be hdmi 1 or 2. Apologies if this is obvious and insulting You will have to "send" the sound from the PC to the TV if, like me, the PC is on one room and the TV is in another. There is a way to do that. However, if the PC and TV are next to each other you will be able to lisyen to the sound from the PC while watching the TV What is 'the other way' Mick? Thanks
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Post by dc84 on Nov 7, 2020 11:20:11 GMT
Best of luck to the Ladies aswell be amazing if they turned over cork in tralee today first of a double hopefully they seem in good form this year!
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