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Post by Mickmack on Dec 2, 2020 14:59:41 GMT
True, gavin would only be interested in coaches who have actually won things How many all Irelands has Declan Darcy? None. Its a terrible pity thst Conor Lane didnt give Mayo the 2016 All Ireland when Bastick picked cleanly off the ground in the last play of the drawn game. Dublin would be trying to do 3 in a row now and the thing about Donie Buckley not having won anything would be put the bed.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 2, 2020 15:08:46 GMT
How many all Irelands has Declan Darcy? None. Its a terrible pity thst Conor Lane didnt give Mayo the 2016 All Ireland when Bastick picked cleanly off the ground in the last play of the drawn game. Dublin would be trying to do 3 in a row now and the thing about Donie Buckley not having won anything would be put the bed. Isn't that the one where Mayo scored the two own goals?
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 2, 2020 15:26:31 GMT
Its a terrible pity thst Conor Lane didnt give Mayo the 2016 All Ireland when Bastick picked cleanly off the ground in the last play of the drawn game. Dublin would be trying to do 3 in a row now and the thing about Donie Buckley not having won anything would be put the bed. Isn't that the one where Mayo scored the two own goals? It might be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 16:50:53 GMT
True, gavin would only be interested in coaches who have actually won things How many all Irelands has Declan Darcy? None. I think you will find Darcy has had a very successful coaching career
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 16:55:01 GMT
The best managers in sport or industry are facilitators. They are only interested in making sure their team is the best prepared and best performing team. Do you think Jim Gavin would have have let a coach leave his set up like PK did with Buckley? No he would have wanted the best for Dublin and not let his own personal issues or ego get in the way. My last post on the subject but no doubt it will be revisited next year. So much for it being your last post
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 2, 2020 18:44:47 GMT
The best managers in sport or industry are facilitators. They are only interested in making sure their team is the best prepared and best performing team. Do you think Jim Gavin would have have let a coach leave his set up like PK did with Buckley? No he would have wanted the best for Dublin and not let his own personal issues or ego get in the way. My last post on the subject but no doubt it will be revisited next year. So much for it being your last post Felt obliged to respond to your nonsense.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 2, 2020 18:49:51 GMT
How many all Irelands has Declan Darcy? None. I think you will find Darcy has had a very successful coaching career Yeah I'll spell it out for you since you said Jim gavin would only pick a coach that had won something, Darcy had won very little before 2013. So he was taken on because he was an excellent coach not because he had won anything. So hope that clears it up for ye.
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Post by sullyschoice on Dec 2, 2020 21:09:21 GMT
My under 16 girls beat his girls in the championship semi final last year. And I won F all as a player.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 2, 2020 21:23:58 GMT
WED, 02 DEC, 2020 - 17:48 PAUL KEANE
Former Kerry star Paul Galvin has described the reaction to their Munster championship defeat to Cork as "hysterical" and insisted the situation isn't as "dire" as some feel.
The four-time All-Ireland winner, in charge of Wexford for the majority of the 2020 season, called for some "perspective" in the debate about the Kerry team.
Earlier this week, Galvin's former Kerry colleague Darran O'Sullivan blasted "bull*" rumours of a player heave against manager Peter Keane in the wake of the loss.
Speaking on the Terrace Talk programme on Radio Kerry, Galvin said the reality is that nobody is more disappointed than the players and those involved.
"I think a bit of perspective is needed," said Galvin. "I thought the reaction to the game was hysterical and as hysterical as I've seen to any game.
"I don't know, it's a hard game to monitor and to measure and to make sense of after the year that it's been. The game itself was not a great game. I lost interest in the game myself very early on in the game to be quite honest with you.
I don't know what to say about it ever since, we're probably searching for answers a little bit but I don't think it's as dire a situation as the reaction might have suggested The former Footballer of the Year said that while he believes six-in-a-row chasing Dublin are "ahead of everyone probably in most facets", the gap can potentially be closed in a relatively short period.
He said that for Kerry and all teams who hope to overtake the Dubs, it is about using "a bit of imagination".
Galvin was on the programme to speak about the release of the first in a collection of jerseys inspired by past Kerry teams, players and iconic figures.
"You talk about the Joe Barretts and the John Joe Sheehys and the Con Brosnans, I do think there's a little bit of revolution required, a little bit of revolutionary thinking required to start to make your own progress," he said.
The latest edition of the Paul Galvin designed Keohane Athletic Club range. Vintage number three Kerry jersey inspired by legendary full-backs. This edition remembers Kerry’s three in a row All Ireland victories from 1939-1941. The latest edition of the Paul Galvin designed Keohane Athletic Club range. Vintage number three Kerry jersey inspired by legendary full-backs. This edition remembers Kerry’s three in a row All Ireland victories from 1939-1941. "That can actually lead to quite quick progress as well. You look at the recent past of All-Ireland winners outside of Kerry, Dublin. It's funny that most of these revolutionaries come from up the north. You look at Joe Kernan, Mickey Harte and McGuinness when he was there, all these guys came at it with their own ideas and their own thoughts and their own plans and really committed to those plans and got their players to commit to their plans and didn't deviate.
"Kerry have always been good at that.
Micko was one of those great revolutionaries in his own right. I think that's where it needs to start to be honest with you. Galvin stepped down from the Wexford role in September, citing a relocation of his family to the west of Ireland due to the pandemic along with travel and business commitments.
The Finuge man said he has had a number of enquiries regarding other jobs and roles in recent weeks but is "sitting tight" and waiting for the GAA to clarify plans for the 2021 season.
"I have an open mind on it and I'll watch the remainder of the Championship and see how things play out," he said.
"From the conversations that I've had with club chairmen and different chairmen I've spoken to in the last couple of weeks, the sooner the GAA can get to clarify what next season looks like from a structure point of view and with regards to fixtures the better because it's not helping anyone from the point of view of coaching and chairpersons in charge of clubs and counties because it's difficult to plan ahead."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 21:27:56 GMT
So much for it being your last post Felt obliged to respond to your nonsense. As one of the more “emotional” posters on here, I figured it would not take much
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 2, 2020 21:42:45 GMT
Felt obliged to respond to your nonsense. As one of the more “emotional” posters on here, I figured it would not take much That sums you up so.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 2, 2020 23:31:06 GMT
Darragh Ó Sé
Dara Ó Cinnéide is a very bright lad, one of the brightest I ever played with – although that might not be saying a whole pile.
Paddy Bawn Brosnan once had the famous saying about the old Kerry teams being made up of a few farmers, a few fishermen and a college boy to take the frees.
Cinnéide was that college boy and he took the frees for Kerry and for An Ghaeltacht. Because of that, he was more particular than the rest of us about the footballs we used, especially as the winter came in and the weather got bad.
One year, during an especially cold club championship, he came in after a training session and was giving out that the balls were like blocks of ice. He suggested to our selector Tony Ó Sé that maybe it might be an idea to keep them in the hot press when he had them at home, so that they’d be easier to kick when we got out on the field. Tony turned around to me, in horror.
“I thought you were always going on that this fella was supposed to be a bright lad!”
“What do you mean?”
“Sure it won’t matter if I put them in the hot-press. As soon as I take them out of the boot of the car, they’ll only get cold again!”
That’s winter football. It makes fools of the smartest of us. The skies were clear and the weather was decent for the two big provincial final shocks but it was still cold-weather football. The ball didn’t go as far, the handling wasn’t as good, the sod made things a whole lot less sure-footed than it would have been in the summer.
Tipperary and Cavan both grabbed their opportunity through ability, determination and clever planning. They adapted, Cork and Donegal didn’t. Mayo have come through Connacht the hard way, beating Roscommon in the Hyde and Galway in Salthill. The job done by management in all three cases has been off the charts.
Power knew what he had as soon as he walked through the door David Power, Mickey Graham and James Horan have had different roles to play. Power came in to finish off the job he started with the group of lads he brought to a minor All-Ireland in 2011. Graham came into a Cavan set-up where there was a load of fellas who had good futures behind them. Horan was coming back to a dressing room he had ruled before. You need different skills to do all three jobs.
Power knew what he had as soon as he walked through the door. He didn’t need to be told how good Conor Sweeney or Michael Quinlivan or Steven O’Brien are – he needed to find a way to bring them back to their best. They hadn’t shown it in a few years – why not? Were they not being challenged enough? Were they resting on their laurels? Power’s job was to find out.
I was impressed by the way he delegated from the start. It takes a lot of humility and a good bit of thinking outside the box to ring Paddy Christie and ask him in as coach. And let’s be honest about it, given the direction Tipperary had gone in over the past couple of seasons, he must have done a fair selling job to Christie as well.
I always look at these things through a player’s eyes. The Tipperary players have known Power since they were kids. They know his good points and his bad points. They have heard his voice, on and off, for well over a decade. If I was one of them, I would want to do well for him. But good intentions only carry the thing so far. You need substance too.
Huge credit Power bringing in Christie from the start was a statement of intent. Right lads, you know me, you know who I am. You don’t know Paddy but you know his work. He wouldn’t even have to say that Dublin have at least four Ballymun players on the pitch every time they go out and a couple more in the subs. All of them went through Paddy’s hands.
The job is made easier when you have good players but you still have to make them believe this is all possible. Tipperary have had plenty of chances to slip out of the championship in the past month but they took it in their own hands to stay going. The players did it but the management have to take huge credit.
Same in Cavan. I played against Mickey Graham and he was always a hardy, defiant lad, much more influential than his size would have suggested he should be. He has put a bit of that steel into Cavan since he went in last year.
They hadn’t been to an Ulster final in the guts of 20 years and now they’ve been in two back-to-back and won one of them. When a county does that, you have to celebrate it, yes. But you also have to ask what were they at for all the years that went before.
They had the odd good run, fair enough. Under Terry Hyland, they made it to an All-Ireland quarter-final against Kerry. But all I kept hearing every year was that they had these under-21 players coming through who had won four Ulster titles on the bounce. Where were they? None of them really stood out anytime I watched them.
Graham obviously felt they were underachieving and came in and did his own thing with them. I love the story of Killian Clarke getting in touch during lockdown to say he was thinking of coming back to the panel and Graham basically telling him that he looked overweight in the club championship.
The message was clear – this isn’t the old Cavan where the dressing room had a revolving door. If you want to come back, you’ll have to earn it. Clarke has been one of their best players throughout Ulster. That’s down to him but it’s down to Graham too.
The smartest thing Horan has done is to change everything up As for Horan, any manager coming back for a second spin of the wheel has a whole other aspect of the job to try and negotiate. If you’re being asked back for a second time, it means you had some level of success the first time. Otherwise they wouldn’t let you darken the door.
It means you come back in with some level of authority and respect already under your belt. It happened in my career with Jack O’Connor coming back in 2009 three years after his first stint had ended. We knew Jack, Jack knew us. He had written a book in the meantime so that was a bit of a speedbump that everybody had to get past. But above all else, the fact that we had won together before meant we could see our way to winning together again.
I was in my later year and I was taking on a bit of water. I was subbed off against Dublin in the quarter-final, same against Meath in the semi-final and against Cork in the final. The last three games of my career and I didn’t make it to the final whistle in any of them.
Tricky situation And in my head, I wasn’t one bit happy about it. We were beating Dublin well that day and I was feeling good. I didn’t need to be coming off the pitch. I was enjoying it. I wasn’t slowing down. We had the game where we wanted it.
This is where the dynamic of a returning manager comes into play. If Jack had been in his first year, if he hadn’t won his All-Irelands with us already, that could have turned into a tricky situation. I’m not saying I’d have stormed out or anything, that’s not what I mean. But somebody who didn’t have his experience might have shrunk from making that call. Someone less sure of themselves might not have done it three games in a row.
Jack was able to handle his older players and he was able to bring through new faces as well. Tadhg Kennelly was back from Australia so that was bringing a bit of excitement and energy to the place. But most of all, the older players – and there were a few of us coming near the end – we had our eyes on the prize. We knew we were good enough to squeeze out another All-Ireland and we knew Jack knew that too. Everybody does what they can to keep the boat pointed in the right direction.
Mayo didn’t win an All-Ireland under James Horan but he has walked back into a dressing room where he has natural authority because of the gains he made in his first attempt at the job. The older guys know they owe whatever success they have to the change in attitude Horan brought in at the start of the last decade. Mayo football changed for the better because of him – so he doesn’t have to pick his words carefully when he arrives back on the scene.
The smartest thing Horan has done is to change everything up. The Mayo teams of old lived and died on their half-back line. It was Colm Boyle, it was Lee Keegan, it was Donie Vaughan, it was Chris Barrett. But he has come in and won a Connacht Championship with Keegan and Barrett in the full-back line and Boyle and Vaughan not even in the picture.
That kind of thing is vital for a returning manager, especially one that didn’t win the All-Ireland. Horan wasn’t coming back and saying, “look, we have a tried and tested line-up that only needs another few inches to get over the line”.
No, he changed it all up, brought in a heap of new players who straight away are devoted to him because he has given them their debuts. And because his stock with the older lads is solid, there’s no dissent in the ranks.
Like Jack O’Connor with me all those years ago, Horan can field a team without Boyle and Vaughan and Seamie O’Shea and Keith Higgins and not be torturing himself second-guessing it. A different manager in his first year would be bringing pressure on himself with all those changes but Horan can do it.
Winning helps, of course. Just as it helped Power and Graham. This weekend will presumably see the end of the year for two of them, with Dublin beating Cavan and – I would guess – Mayo beating Tipperary. But all three counties are a work in progress and 2020 has been a solid building block on all counts.
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Post by givehimaball on Dec 3, 2020 16:07:17 GMT
Stat of the Day
Since Cork won the All-Ireland in 2010, they've played Division 1 opposition 18 times in the Championship. They've lost 15 out of 18 of those games. Down in 2011, Kerry in 2012 and Kerry in 2020 are the three teams they've beat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 17:49:42 GMT
They drew with Kerry in 2015 and have played Kerry at least 10 or 11 times in this period. I think they also played Dublin and Mayo a couple of times each.
A more interesting stat is Tyrones record against Kerry, Dublin and Mayo over the past decade.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Dec 5, 2020 4:10:40 GMT
Good luck to our provincial representatives against Mayo.
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Post by dc84 on Dec 5, 2020 10:43:47 GMT
Good luck to our provincial representatives against Mayo. Be great to see them do it, would be a great story! Dont think they will mayo are a different kettle of fish than cork.they have been impressive in the two wins they had against decent opposition in galway and roscommon .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 10:52:06 GMT
Hopefully Tipp make a game if it and i think they will but may come up a little short. Mayo are far more astute than Cork and won’t fall down the rabbit holes that cork did especially on the attacking side
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 5, 2020 11:13:28 GMT
Mayo will surely put the spancel on Conor Sweeney and Quinlivan. What then?
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Post by veteran on Dec 5, 2020 12:17:27 GMT
It is not unknown for a four legged animal to dismantle a spancel. I am not sure about the two legged version . It depends on how robust the spancel is I suppose. I imagine a rural county like Mayo would have a lot of expertise in the speciality of spancel application but a cursory reading of Knocknagow suggests there is no lack cunning in that part of the country so the spancel/s may have a short shelf life. The spancel could be the key to the outcome .
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 5, 2020 12:25:36 GMT
It is not unknown for a four legged animal to dismantle a spancel. I am not sure about the two legged version . It depends on how robust the spancel is I suppose. I imagine a rural county like Mayo would have a lot of expertise in the speciality of spancel application but a cursory reading of Knocknagow suggests there is no lack cunning in that part of the country so the spancel/s may have a short shelf life. The spancel could be the key to the outcome . If every Tipp man keeps his quin up they might dismantle it. If everyone plows their own furrow they wont😋
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Post by mandad on Dec 5, 2020 12:48:42 GMT
It is not unknown for a four legged animal to dismantle a spancel. I am not sure about the two legged version . It depends on how robust the spancel is I suppose. I imagine a rural county like Mayo would have a lot of expertise in the speciality of spancel application but a cursory reading of Knocknagow suggests there is no lack cunning in that part of the country so the spancel/s may have a short shelf life. The spancel could be the key to the outcome . If every Tipp man keeps his quin up they might dismantle it. If everyone plows their own furrow they wont😋 Tricky word that ‘Spancel’ When spelt ‘spancil’ it takes on a much darker meaning in folklore. “Most grisly of all perhaps, was the Buarach an Bháis, or ‘Spancil of Death’. This consisted of an unbroken strip of skin which was sliced from a corpse, starting at the back of the head, running along the spine and ending at the sole of the foot. This strip of skin was used as a love charm, being wrapped in brightly coloured silks and tied around the legs of your target as they slept, thereby causing love and attraction through magic. We have no record of the success rate of the Spancil of Death.” Still used in various places, I am reliably informed!
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 9, 2020 23:50:02 GMT
Kerry GAA chair Tim Murphy blasts ‘damaging fake news’ about Peter Keane’s future Murphy hit out at the “unfounded” and “erroneous WhatsApp messages” which suggested Kerry players were on the brink of a heave
Kerry GAA chair Tim Murphy blasts ‘damaging fake news’ about Peter Keane’s future Kerry County Board chairman Tim Murphy at the Kerry GAA Centre of Excellence at Currans, Co Kerry. Picture Dan Linehan
WED, 09 DEC, 2020 - 21:30 EOGHAN CORMICAN
Kerry County Board chairman Tim Murphy has condemned the “damaging fake news” which emerged on social media following Kerry’s exit from the All-Ireland football championship.
In his chairman’s address to Kerry convention, Murphy hit out at the “unfounded” and “erroneous WhatsApp messages” which suggested Kerry players were on the brink of a heave against manager Peter Keane in the wake of their Munster semi-final defeat to Cork.
“The result was hugely disappointing for everyone, but none more so than the players and management.
“Another hugely disappointing and concerning area for us as an association and society as a whole is the advent and roll out of fake news and untrue information presented in its many formats.
“The erroneous WhatsApp messages and subsequent social media furore that emerged in the weeks following our defeat had, in our opinion, the aim of damaging the reputation of players and management, and it has to be said that the prevalence of fake news has increased with the rise of social media.
“On behalf of the executive and those involved, I wish to use our annual convention as the forum to publicly condemn all such actions and further confirm that all such messages are untrue, unfounded and erroneous in the extreme.”
Murphy sees as a “major issue” the large concentration of footballers from the east of the county on the various Kerry teams, relative to the northern part of the county. From the starting Munster SFC semi-final team, seven were from the East Kerry division.
The chairman noted how population movements and the greater concentration of population in urban areas has created a challenge for Kerry’s club structure and “is a direct threat to the very existence of some clubs”.
A new online facility will go live in 2021 that will enable clubs to plan accurately for the future by identifying school numbers, school size, and employment opportunities.
“This is our opportunity to embrace the challenges that face us, and our response will define our future successes both on and off the field,” said Murphy.
Murphy praised the response and efforts of the Kerry GAA community in helping vulnerable people since the advent of Covid-19.
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Post by john4 on Dec 10, 2020 0:54:56 GMT
Kerry GAA chair Tim Murphy blasts ‘damaging fake news’ about Peter Keane’s future Murphy hit out at the “unfounded” and “erroneous WhatsApp messages” which suggested Kerry players were on the brink of a heave Kerry GAA chair Tim Murphy blasts ‘damaging fake news’ about Peter Keane’s future Kerry County Board chairman Tim Murphy at the Kerry GAA Centre of Excellence at Currans, Co Kerry. Picture Dan Linehan WED, 09 DEC, 2020 - 21:30 EOGHAN CORMICAN Kerry County Board chairman Tim Murphy has condemned the “damaging fake news” which emerged on social media following Kerry’s exit from the All-Ireland football championship. In his chairman’s address to Kerry convention, Murphy hit out at the “unfounded” and “erroneous WhatsApp messages” which suggested Kerry players were on the brink of a heave against manager Peter Keane in the wake of their Munster semi-final defeat to Cork. “The result was hugely disappointing for everyone, but none more so than the players and management. “Another hugely disappointing and concerning area for us as an association and society as a whole is the advent and roll out of fake news and untrue information presented in its many formats. “The erroneous WhatsApp messages and subsequent social media furore that emerged in the weeks following our defeat had, in our opinion, the aim of damaging the reputation of players and management, and it has to be said that the prevalence of fake news has increased with the rise of social media. “On behalf of the executive and those involved, I wish to use our annual convention as the forum to publicly condemn all such actions and further confirm that all such messages are untrue, unfounded and erroneous in the extreme.” Murphy sees as a “major issue” the large concentration of footballers from the east of the county on the various Kerry teams, relative to the northern part of the county. From the starting Munster SFC semi-final team, seven were from the East Kerry division. The chairman noted how population movements and the greater concentration of population in urban areas has created a challenge for Kerry’s club structure and “is a direct threat to the very existence of some clubs”. A new online facility will go live in 2021 that will enable clubs to plan accurately for the future by identifying school numbers, school size, and employment opportunities. “This is our opportunity to embrace the challenges that face us, and our response will define our future successes both on and off the field,” said Murphy. Murphy praised the response and efforts of the Kerry GAA community in helping vulnerable people since the advent of Covid-19. MORE IN THIS SECTION Ulster Gaa hosted a webinar last week entitled "Tackling and Evasion", Tim must have been on it, cause what he's done there is tackle some teenager with a mobile phone, while evading the weaknesses we have in the Senior football organisation.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 10, 2020 11:15:48 GMT
Kerry GAA chair Tim Murphy blasts ‘damaging fake news’ about Peter Keane’s future Murphy hit out at the “unfounded” and “erroneous WhatsApp messages” which suggested Kerry players were on the brink of a heave Kerry GAA chair Tim Murphy blasts ‘damaging fake news’ about Peter Keane’s future Kerry County Board chairman Tim Murphy at the Kerry GAA Centre of Excellence at Currans, Co Kerry. Picture Dan Linehan WED, 09 DEC, 2020 - 21:30 EOGHAN CORMICAN Kerry County Board chairman Tim Murphy has condemned the “damaging fake news” which emerged on social media following Kerry’s exit from the All-Ireland football championship. In his chairman’s address to Kerry convention, Murphy hit out at the “unfounded” and “erroneous WhatsApp messages” which suggested Kerry players were on the brink of a heave against manager Peter Keane in the wake of their Munster semi-final defeat to Cork. “The result was hugely disappointing for everyone, but none more so than the players and management. “Another hugely disappointing and concerning area for us as an association and society as a whole is the advent and roll out of fake news and untrue information presented in its many formats. “The erroneous WhatsApp messages and subsequent social media furore that emerged in the weeks following our defeat had, in our opinion, the aim of damaging the reputation of players and management, and it has to be said that the prevalence of fake news has increased with the rise of social media. “On behalf of the executive and those involved, I wish to use our annual convention as the forum to publicly condemn all such actions and further confirm that all such messages are untrue, unfounded and erroneous in the extreme.” Murphy sees as a “major issue” the large concentration of footballers from the east of the county on the various Kerry teams, relative to the northern part of the county. From the starting Munster SFC semi-final team, seven were from the East Kerry division. The chairman noted how population movements and the greater concentration of population in urban areas has created a challenge for Kerry’s club structure and “is a direct threat to the very existence of some clubs”. A new online facility will go live in 2021 that will enable clubs to plan accurately for the future by identifying school numbers, school size, and employment opportunities. “This is our opportunity to embrace the challenges that face us, and our response will define our future successes both on and off the field,” said Murphy. Murphy praised the response and efforts of the Kerry GAA community in helping vulnerable people since the advent of Covid-19. MORE IN THIS SECTION Ulster Gaa hosted a webinar last week entitled "Tackling and Evasion", Tim must have been on it, cause what he's done there is tackle some teenager with a mobile phone, while evading the weaknesses we have in the Senior football organisation. As regards fake news, nobody ever talks about the stream of lies outside of technology, i.e. Gombeens using their personal networks to mislead the pubic. The Internet is a force of democracy and people aren't so stupid as to swallow everything we are told - why didn't the players set the record straight? Over time social media sorts itself out and stories are believed or not depending on the credibility of who is telling them. We all have form on here and the appropriate pinch of salt is added as appropriate but still I think we are fortunate in that it is generally difference in opinion as opposed to lying and that is a good learning process for when we face the big bad world.
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Post by pillar on Dec 10, 2020 23:10:15 GMT
Ulster Gaa hosted a webinar last week entitled "Tackling and Evasion", Tim must have been on it, cause what he's done there is tackle some teenager with a mobile phone, while evading the weaknesses we have in the Senior football organisation. As regards fake news, nobody ever talks about the stream of lies outside of technology, i.e. Gombeens using their personal networks to mislead the pubic. The Internet is a force of democracy and people aren't so stupid as to swallow everything we are told - why didn't the players set the record straight? Over time social media sorts itself out and stories are believed or not depending on the credibility of who is telling them. We all have form on here and the appropriate pinch of salt is added as appropriate but still I think we are fortunate in that it is generally difference in opinion as opposed to lying and that is a good learning process for when we face the big bad world. To be fair I don't think the people named in that message as being instigators as well as being quoted as saying had a very comfortable couple of days with their names being bandied about.fake news or not its not a position they should have to put up with!!
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 14, 2020 22:23:06 GMT
MON, 14 DEC, 2020 - 21:10 JOHN O’DOWD Australian Rules star Mark O’Connor has revealed that he would have been available to line out for Kerry in the rest of the Championship – if Peter Keane’s men hadn’t been knocked out in the last seconds by Cork in the Munster semi-final in early November. The 23-year-old Dingle man, speaking on Radio Kerry’s Terrace Talk programme, confirmed that he had been in contact with the Kingdom manager over the previous months to suss out the possibilities of being available for the squad, and that his club, the Geelong Cats, had given permission for him to line out in the green and gold. However, with the Cats going all the way to the AFL Grand Final on October 24, where they lost 81-50 to the Richmond Tigers at the Gabba in Brisbane, the former All-Ireland minor-winning captain was going through his quarantine period at the time of Kerry’s trip to Páirc Uí Chaoimh on November 8. “It was obviously very disappointing for Kerry. I was watching it myself. It’s funny, I had actually got the permission from Geelong to play, but I was in quarantine for the Cork game, so I obviously wouldn’t have been able to do it then,” he said. “Yeah, I would have been available had they gotten through, but that’s just unfortunate. That’s the way sport works, I suppose. Had Geelong not gotten so far, it was the fact that we made the Grand Final, that made me obviously stay out in Australia that bit longer. “It just meant that I would have to quarantine for two weeks here a bit later, so it just ran a bit too long. It was kind of planned, that if we had gotten through, I would have been available at least.” O’Connor is philosophical about the whole situation, though he admits that it did hurt to see Mitchelstown’s Mark Keane, who had returned to Ireland before him after Collingwood’s exit during the play-offs, being sprung off the bench to break Kerry hearts with his match-winning goal at the death. “Ah well, I couldn’t control it. Obviously, Mark Keane as well, sinking Kerry’s ship, that was heart-breaking to see. But look I had no control over it. It’s happened now, so I can’t really have any regrets. “Yeah, Peter and I had been in contact for a few months, just talking about the possibilities. In fairness to Geelong, they were very welcoming of it. “I probably didn’t do a great job of explaining how much playing for Dingle meant to me that time previously, until I went back after, and then they probably understood a bit more. Once I explained my case about Dingle that time, they were very welcoming of the idea of me playing, but obviously it didn’t work out this year. They were very good in fairness.” O’Connor, who will turn 24 in mid-January and is under contract in Australia until 2022, is very open to the idea of playing for Kerry if he gets a similar opportunity in the next few seasons. “Of course. Obviously, if I am injury-free, and I am able to travel home at the end of the season, it’s definitely something that I would be into,” he stressed. With Na Gaeil’s Stefan Okunbor also on the books in Geelong, O’Connor has high hopes for Dingle clubmate, Deividas Uosis, Kerry goalkeeper in October’s All-Ireland U-20 semi-final defeat to Galway, who will soon forge his own path in the AFL after penning a two-year deal with the Brisbane Lions earlier in the year. “I just met him down the gym again yesterday, Deividas is always working hard. His mind is very clued into it, he’s very keen, he’s been looking forward to it now for a while. I obviously wish him all the best and I’m sure he will do a good job out there.”
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 14, 2020 22:40:16 GMT
Makes the loss even more sickening. Mark would have greatly increased our chances of winning the All Ireland. It looks like the Inter County will be from February to July next year so we won’t be able to get Mark on board next year either.
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Post by dano on Dec 14, 2020 23:53:54 GMT
The county would better off never hearing this story. It's like having your wallet stolen and discovering later on that a winning lottery ticket was in it and is gone as well. No guarantee that ticket would have brought happiness of course. A case of what might have been. Even more painful though that it was a returned Australian rules lad that picked our pocket. Funny old World!
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Post by dc84 on Dec 15, 2020 9:23:38 GMT
He wouldnt/shouldn't have been included anyway in my opinion just landed in instead of some lad bursting his arse for last two or three years trying to get on the Kerry team.Tadgh worked his way onto the team in 09 through the league.
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