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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 1, 2020 6:59:02 GMT
In today’s Examiner , Darren O’Sullivan strongly refutes rumours of a players’ revolt in the Kerry camp. There is an air of authenticity about his rebuttal. I am pleased with his intervention. As I said before, nothing good would arise from such a “revolt “. 'Authenticity' - of one man or TCB? - former would be sad and the other, well go figure. We have a big problem and it isn't being dealt with - probably the all-time greatest Kerry football team in the making accepted an invitation not to play football by opponents who were not near our level of football and the rest is history. We are mad to be facing that Dublin team without Donie Buckley and TCB know it, hell the dogs on the bloody street know it. I gate to sound discriminatory but the boss should have been a prolific player with his county. The standard is so high these days, Dublin I think have got physically better again this year - this is about the county, not individuals. Are we seriously saying there isn't a single ex Kerry footballer capable of managing the current squad and if that is the case then we need to address that - an academy for management development, what's happening in ITT sports faculty? Isn't Deenihan Chairman of something!
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Post by pillar on Dec 1, 2020 8:18:31 GMT
In today’s Examiner , Darren O’Sullivan strongly refutes rumours of a players’ revolt in the Kerry camp. There is an air of authenticity about his rebuttal. I am pleased with his intervention. As I said before, nothing good would arise from such a “revolt “. 'Authenticity' - of one man or TCB? - former would be sad and the other, well go figure. We have a big problem and it isn't being dealt with - probably the all-time greatest Kerry football team in the making accepted an invitation not to play football by opponents who were not near our level of football and the rest is history. We are mad to be facing that Dublin team without Donie Buckley and TCB know it, hell the dogs on the bloody street know it. I gate to sound discriminatory but the boss should have been a prolific player with his county. The standard is so high these days, Dublin I think have got physically better again this year - this is about the county, not individuals. Are we seriously saying there isn't a single ex Kerry footballer capable of managing the current squad and if that is the case then we need to address that - an academy for management development, what's happening in ITT sports faculty? Isn't Deenihan Chairman of something! A question for you..how many of the present Kerry team would get on the Dublin team?
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Dec 1, 2020 9:28:59 GMT
'Authenticity' - of one man or TCB? - former would be sad and the other, well go figure. We have a big problem and it isn't being dealt with - probably the all-time greatest Kerry football team in the making accepted an invitation not to play football by opponents who were not near our level of football and the rest is history. We are mad to be facing that Dublin team without Donie Buckley and TCB know it, hell the dogs on the bloody street know it. I gate to sound discriminatory but the boss should have been a prolific player with his county. The standard is so high these days, Dublin I think have got physically better again this year - this is about the county, not individuals. Are we seriously saying there isn't a single ex Kerry footballer capable of managing the current squad and if that is the case then we need to address that - an academy for management development, what's happening in ITT sports faculty? Isn't Deenihan Chairman of something! A question for you..how many of the present Kerry team would get on the Dublin team? How many of the present Kerry back room team would get in the Dublin backroom team?
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Post by otobeawinner on Dec 1, 2020 10:49:01 GMT
In today’s Examiner , Darren O’Sullivan strongly refutes rumours of a players’ revolt in the Kerry camp. There is an air of authenticity about his rebuttal. I am pleased with his intervention. As I said before, nothing good would arise from such a “revolt “. 'Authenticity' - of one man or TCB? - former would be sad and the other, well go figure. We have a big problem and it isn't being dealt with - probably the all-time greatest Kerry football team in the making accepted an invitation not to play football by opponents who were not near our level of football and the rest is history. We are mad to be facing that Dublin team without Donie Buckley and TCB know it, hell the dogs on the bloody street know it. I gate to sound discriminatory but the boss should have been a prolific player with his county. The standard is so high these days, Dublin I think have got physically better again this year - this is about the county, not individuals. Are we seriously saying there isn't a single ex Kerry footballer capable of managing the current squad and if that is the case then we need to address that - an academy for management development, what's happening in ITT sports faculty? Isn't Deenihan Chairman of something! so the criteria for a kerry manager should be based on how "prolific" a player you were regardless of ones ability to bring in competent people around you. A manager does not need to be smart or be able to read a game from the sideline. To take it a step further maybe all the back room team should be former kerry greats too because there would be no egos there to manage...and jobs for the boys. Being a good player does not automatically make a good manager. There are so many traits required to be a manager that are not necessary to be a good player. Better chance of getting a great manager from a good ref tbh. We (yes We, as he appeared the popular choice) took a chance on peter keane, he probably needs to upgrade some of the backroom team but as a manager he needs to be given time. Just one other point. "probably the all-time greatest Kerry football team in the making" is the based on what. Fantasy I'm afraid. Average squad with a few gems. Monaghan have that ffs.
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Post by dc84 on Dec 1, 2020 12:14:00 GMT
There is potential there for a very good team but hard to say they will be better than the team of the 00s. Clifford o shea would be the only nailed on player's to make that team.
What we wouldnt give to have mike McCarthy, moynihan ,tom sull,o ses ×3,Mahony ,Galvin gooch,dec sull, diarmuid murphy all would 100% make our team now and a few others would be close.
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Post by veteran on Dec 1, 2020 12:18:14 GMT
So, “ the boss should be a prolific player “ with his county. Really? Remember Dr. Eamon O’Sullivan , Jack O’ Connor , Pat O’Shea? Further afield remember Mickey Harte , Eugene McGee ? Bally, my old friend, I feel you could be wrong here.
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Post by pillar on Dec 1, 2020 13:05:21 GMT
A question for you..how many of the present Kerry team would get on the Dublin team? How many of the present Kerry back room team would get in the Dublin backroom team? Suppose only Donie for you
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Post by Control3 on Dec 1, 2020 15:35:38 GMT
Maurice is the head of a Secondary School that is hugely demanding of his time. It is also a school that may not have the back-up resources of other schools. Hasn't he been around the team during Fitz's time and now two years with Peter. No great evidence of his influence in forwards play - to be fair. Is he not more of a kicking coach with the lads? If so, Sean O'Shea's exhibition of place kicking in the drawn AI last year needs to be recalled here surely? Not arguing with you but, you can't just diminish his role to suit your argument. He is a selector. And even if he is 'only' a kicking coach he doesn't look so hot after the easy missed frees against cork.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 1, 2020 16:24:54 GMT
'Authenticity' - of one man or TCB? - former would be sad and the other, well go figure. We have a big problem and it isn't being dealt with - probably the all-time greatest Kerry football team in the making accepted an invitation not to play football by opponents who were not near our level of football and the rest is history. We are mad to be facing that Dublin team without Donie Buckley and TCB know it, hell the dogs on the bloody street know it. I gate to sound discriminatory but the boss should have been a prolific player with his county. The standard is so high these days, Dublin I think have got physically better again this year - this is about the county, not individuals. Are we seriously saying there isn't a single ex Kerry footballer capable of managing the current squad and if that is the case then we need to address that - an academy for management development, what's happening in ITT sports faculty? Isn't Deenihan Chairman of something! A question for you..how many of the present Kerry team would get on the Dublin team? 7 in my opinion. Morley, O’Sullivan, Murphy, O’Brien, O’Shea, Geaney and Clifford. Some will think that’s too many but if Kerry and Dublin had a combined team that’s honestly how many Kerry players I’d start.
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Post by himself on Dec 1, 2020 17:57:27 GMT
Neither Jack O'Connor nor Pat O'Shea were prominent Kerry players. Both were hugely successful managers. I utterly oppose the idea of great players being appointed as managers on the basis of their playing careers. Management is a different skillset and requires it's own lessons. Jack and Eamonn Fitzmaurice came through schools football before taking on club and county teams. Peter himself was U16 and minor selector (with Mickey Ned) as well as St Mary's manager. I do think that Peter has made mistakes, chiefly the loss of Donie Buckley and an overly defensive strategy, but none of them relate to his playing experience. I remember Darragh O Se coming in as U21 manager - with respect to one of our greatest players, he was very clearly out of his depth and it showed very fast. Peter was badly exposed in the Cork game - I have no time for the excuse that talented forwards missed shots, they were isolated against a cork defence that wislh didn't get drawn out the field for the most part. We could all see that Kerry were inviting a dogfight from early on but the changes didn't happen - Geaney and Burns got no run, O'Brien, Walsh, and Clifford the Elder appeared too late and too defensive. Our tackling wasn't good enough at any stage - we were substituting bodies for skill in defence (tackling is Donies forte). All that said, Peter has managed Kerry for 24 games. 18 wins, 2 draws, 4 losses. Reached 3 finals, won 1. It isn't that bad a record. A few changes (which are definitely necessary) and I think we can beat Dublin (a genuinely great team) head to head. I honestly think we need to calm down a small bit. We haven't suddenly turned into a bad team, far from it.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 1, 2020 18:04:19 GMT
'Authenticity' - of one man or TCB? - former would be sad and the other, well go figure. We have a big problem and it isn't being dealt with - probably the all-time greatest Kerry football team in the making accepted an invitation not to play football by opponents who were not near our level of football and the rest is history. We are mad to be facing that Dublin team without Donie Buckley and TCB know it, hell the dogs on the bloody street know it. I gate to sound discriminatory but the boss should have been a prolific player with his county. The standard is so high these days, Dublin I think have got physically better again this year - this is about the county, not individuals. Are we seriously saying there isn't a single ex Kerry footballer capable of managing the current squad and if that is the case then we need to address that - an academy for management development, what's happening in ITT sports faculty? Isn't Deenihan Chairman of something! A question for you..how many of the present Kerry team would get on the Dublin team? As I said I believe they looked like the best team in the making and the more potential they have the stronger the leadership required to get them to realise their potential. As a collective we were closer to Dublin last year - they have gone on (at least physically) while we have gone back in basic ball playing, and why is this? If I start saying who would get on the Dublin team we have a discussion of the Dublin team and I haven't studied 'em deep enough to engage sensibly, so all I can do is talk of the team. Our better players in the AI finals last year would have to be there but obviously not as many this year though it isn't over yet. As I see it our budding talent is not progressing as one would have reasonably expected and then we see blatant sideline miscalls, so what does one conclude - all coincidences? Either the players aren't as good as some thought or they are not giving it their best, or else it's lack of leadership. I think it is less likely to be a combination. As regards Pat O'Shea and JackO'C being great managers, well no, I don't think they were but they had great players and were able to manage as units. With respect to PK the standard is much higher now and, well let's say, it would be no harm if he had played at the top level himself - that Darragh didn't cut it in management doesn't means this is a bad idea? And as someone else said, how many of our managers would get on that of Dublin? I don't think anyone is over reacting but that crack by Darren is pathetic coming from Kerry and will have other teams reading between the lines. Darren said the players didn't have a chat - it wasn't that he just didn't know about it - better it gets! Now I know it was different times and for both sides but Dwyer had a bunch of youngsters click together in their first year - would Galvin have the nous to lead a management team, he'd sure have had the liathródi to be adventurous against the Rebels. The team has now faltered on 4 big occasions and if we haven't become a bad team than what's the problem? As I said, I believe we are capable as we have probably the greatest Kerry team in the making, maybe the all time greatest team of all. And BTW it gives me no pleasure to be asserting what I believe - I respect each and every view but we need to also be careful with our words - I am saying that you need to control the controllables - that Mikey Harte was a better manager that Darragh doesn't mean that having a stellar Sam Maguire winning career is a negative on your CV for the top job.
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Post by himself on Dec 1, 2020 18:40:43 GMT
Between vocational schools, Hogan cups, minor, U21, and senior, Jack O'Connor has been selector or manager to 21 All Ireland winning teams. Pat O'Shea would be accepted as the architect, not just the manager, of a phenomenal Crokes side. In two years with Kerry he won an All Ireland and lost an All Ireland. Darragh is simply the most obvious example of a player promoted too rapidly to high level management. I genuinely can't think of an example of one who succeeded instantly at the higher level straightaway. Mick O'Dwyer or Jackie Lyne maybe, but they had prior success at club level. As for who would make the Dublin team/management? I respectfully see absolutely no relevance to a discussion on Kerry management.
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Post by mandad on Dec 1, 2020 18:58:31 GMT
I have a very trusty friend who describes his forced retirement this way: “When the music stopped, there was no chair for me.” I confess that I too felt his pain when he said that. His self-confidence was utterly shattered, and the man must have felt very low. Yet he knew that the game was up for him. There’s great power in brutal honesty —‘sometimes a spade is just a spade’. (Not Freud.) .
One of the main reasons people are not successful is the lack of accountability. Blaming negative results on bad luck yet feeling entirely responsible for good results. Sometimes people create their own storms and then get upset when it rains as well.
The Keane/Griffin system set-up has survived up to the limits of its competence; thereafter, its limitations were cruelly exposed as not being fit for purpose - by a below-average team. Arguing about which straw broke the camel’s back is an irrelevance, except to say that a better manager would have made better decisions.
And so it looks like we are up the creek again, a neighborhood we have come to know rather intimately in recent times. We’ve been over this course before – something we assumed has not worked out. People talk about learning from mistakes as if that thinking is all there is to it. You don’t just ‘learn’ from this kind of failure – you change. Your car may have a powerful engine, but if the steering is out of kilter, it’s probably a mistake to keep on driving.
At the retail end, the emotions that players go through have tended to receive less recognition than it warrants, given its potential impact on outcomes. The distinction between unintended and foreseeable feels important here. While not all unintended consequences are foreseeable, many are. Fear is cumulative. Mistrust and dubiety erode the ties of camaraderie. Muddle and doubt tempt men to act in ways they would otherwise avoid. When infractions occur, stabilizing forces should exist that prevent further violations and to restore trust and harmony. What galls is that all the above are self-inflicted; all are fixable.
The function which distinguishes the manager above all others is to give others vision and ability to perform. Two years into their tenure we have a system that seems to be more based upon mimicry than self-expression with no apparent evidence of a forwards strategy. We certainly have a set of forwards that should be good enough to do the business, if they were coached by a proficient forwards coach. It has been argued by Tomás that a few of our lads might not be good enough, which an uncomfortable shuffle for some, but he isn’t the only one thinking that.
At least if we are going to fail in our efforts to be successful, let us fall forward going forward. And, unless the team is imbued with that one characteristic, then much of the real essence of Kerry football is missing. When people are inspired, new possibilities emerge precisely because they are ‘carroted and not sticked.’
Posters on this forum have suggested that former high skilled forwards would be good coaches. That hasn’t worked well for us in recent times. The game has evolved hugely in a short space of time. In view of the manner by which Donie was dispatched (twice), other fellows might have second thoughts about coming on board now and might see their entry point elsewhere. In any case, Peter has given no indication that he intends to facilitate such an arrangement. What we can all agree on, I trust, is that a house divided cannot stand for long. On that basis, and without any animosity towards Peter, when the music stops again there may not be a chair left for him.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Dec 1, 2020 19:40:43 GMT
So picking the bones out of mandad's noble analysis, you contend there are a few potential straws that broke the camel's back, but it is irrelevant which one, so are you suggesting it comes back to management regardless? Well it must because they select what they think is the best team.
If as you go on to say, some of our forwards may prove not good enough, well that was one of three possibilities I outlined, but that is as good as we are with the current leadership and over which there is a question mark.
And now we have past masters telling us to zip it - more heat than light!
Ah I think I have said my share here.
Stay safe mo chairde Chiarraí.
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Post by Control5 on Dec 1, 2020 20:03:48 GMT
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Post by Premier on Dec 1, 2020 20:32:45 GMT
A question for you..how many of the present Kerry team would get on the Dublin team? 7 in my opinion. Morley, O’Sullivan, Murphy, O’Brien, O’Shea, Geaney and Clifford. Some will think that’s too many but if Kerry and Dublin had a combined team that’s honestly how many Kerry players I’d start. Jesus I’d love to know which of Kilkenny (best season so far with Dublin) O’Callaghan (Dublin’s most dangerous forward) Mannion (3 all stars in a row) and Rock (Playing his best football from open play of his career) would be dropped to to fit in 4 of our forwards. You could maybe argue that our 3 backs would fit in alongside Fitzsimons, McCarthy and Small
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 1, 2020 21:33:08 GMT
The best managers in sport or industry are facilitators. They are only interested in making sure their team is the best prepared and best performing team. Do you think Jim Gavin would have have let a coach leave his set up like PK did with Buckley? No he would have wanted the best for Dublin and not let his own personal issues or ego get in the way. My last post on the subject but no doubt it will be revisited next year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 22:20:10 GMT
If Buckley was that good, gavin would have hired him a long time ago
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Dec 1, 2020 22:42:15 GMT
7 in my opinion. Morley, O’Sullivan, Murphy, O’Brien, O’Shea, Geaney and Clifford. Some will think that’s too many but if Kerry and Dublin had a combined team that’s honestly how many Kerry players I’d start. Jesus I’d love to know which of Kilkenny (best season so far with Dublin) O’Callaghan (Dublin’s most dangerous forward) Mannion (3 all stars in a row) and Rock (Playing his best football from open play of his career) would be dropped to to fit in 4 of our forwards. You could maybe argue that our 3 backs would fit in alongside Fitzsimons, McCarthy and Small I’d leave out Mannion and Rock, both very good but slightly overrated in my opinion. I’d have the defence you mentioned with Fenton and Howard in the middle of the field.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 1, 2020 22:53:15 GMT
If Buckley was that good, gavin would have hired him a long time ago Yeah they were desperate for a coach infairness given their lack of success.
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Post by kerryexile on Dec 1, 2020 23:11:05 GMT
I have a very trusty friend who describes his forced retirement this way: “When the music stopped, there was no chair for me.” I confess that I too felt his pain when he said that. His self-confidence was utterly shattered, and the man must have felt very low. Yet he knew that the game was up for him. There’s great power in brutal honesty —‘sometimes a spade is just a spade’. (Not Freud.) . One of the main reasons people are not successful is the lack of accountability. Blaming negative results on bad luck yet feeling entirely responsible for good results. Sometimes people create their own storms and then get upset when it rains as well. The Keane/Griffin system set-up has survived up to the limits of its competence; thereafter, its limitations were cruelly exposed as not being fit for purpose - by a below-average team. Arguing about which straw broke the camel’s back is an irrelevance, except to say that a better manager would have made better decisions. And so it looks like we are up the creek again, a neighborhood we have come to know rather intimately in recent times. We’ve been over this course before – something we assumed has not worked out. People talk about learning from mistakes as if that thinking is all there is to it. You don’t just ‘learn’ from this kind of failure – you change. Your car may have a powerful engine, but if the steering is out of kilter, it’s probably a mistake to keep on driving. At the retail end, the emotions that players go through have tended to receive less recognition than it warrants, given its potential impact on outcomes. The distinction between unintended and foreseeable feels important here. While not all unintended consequences are foreseeable, many are. Fear is cumulative. Mistrust and dubiety erode the ties of camaraderie. Muddle and doubt tempt men to act in ways they would otherwise avoid. When infractions occur, stabilizing forces should exist that prevent further violations and to restore trust and harmony. What galls is that all the above are self-inflicted; all are fixable. The function which distinguishes the manager above all others is to give others vision and ability to perform. Two years into their tenure we have a system that seems to be more based upon mimicry than self-expression with no apparent evidence of a forwards strategy. We certainly have a set of forwards that should be good enough to do the business, if they were coached by a proficient forwards coach. It has been argued by Tomás that a few of our lads might not be good enough, which an uncomfortable shuffle for some, but he isn’t the only one thinking that. At least if we are going to fail in our efforts to be successful, let us fall forward going forward. And, unless the team is imbued with that one characteristic, then much of the real essence of Kerry football is missing. When people are inspired, new possibilities emerge precisely because they are ‘carroted and not sticked.’ Posters on this forum have suggested that former high skilled forwards would be good coaches. That hasn’t worked well for us in recent times. The game has evolved hugely in a short space of time. In view of the manner by which Donie was dispatched (twice), other fellows might have second thoughts about coming on board now and might see their entry point elsewhere. In any case, Peter has given no indication that he intends to facilitate such an arrangement. What we can all agree on, I trust, is that a house divided cannot stand for long. On that basis, and without any animosity towards Peter, when the music stops again there may not be a chair left for him. Excellent post Mandad. In the modern world where anyone can type a few words and hit send, it is refreshing to see such a cogent argument. The league will tell a lot. It is only 8 weeks away. It is not the results that will be revealing, it is the attitude and that is from all concerned. A lot of parts have to be road tested following the recent NCT failure.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 1, 2020 23:18:43 GMT
Neither Jack O'Connor nor Pat O'Shea were prominent Kerry players. Both were hugely successful managers. I utterly oppose the idea of great players being appointed as managers on the basis of their playing careers. Management is a different skillset and requires it's own lessons. Jack and Eamonn Fitzmaurice came through schools football before taking on club and county teams. Peter himself was U16 and minor selector (with Mickey Ned) as well as St Mary's manager. I do think that Peter has made mistakes, chiefly the loss of Donie Buckley and an overly defensive strategy, but none of them relate to his playing experience. I remember Darragh O Se coming in as U21 manager - with respect to one of our greatest players, he was very clearly out of his depth and it showed very fast. Peter was badly exposed in the Cork game - I have no time for the excuse that talented forwards missed shots, they were isolated against a cork defence that wislh didn't get drawn out the field for the most part. We could all see that Kerry were inviting a dogfight from early on but the changes didn't happen - Geaney and Burns got no run, O'Brien, Walsh, and Clifford the Elder appeared too late and too defensive. Our tackling wasn't good enough at any stage - we were substituting bodies for skill in defence (tackling is Donies forte).All that said, Peter has managed Kerry for 24 games. 18 wins, 2 draws, 4 losses. Reached 3 finals, won 1. It isn't that bad a record. A few changes (which are definitely necessary) and I think we can beat Dublin (a genuinely great team) head to head. I honestly think we need to calm down a small bit. We haven't suddenly turned into a bad team, far from it. You appear to suggest that the loss of Donie led to a fall off in the standard of tackling. Donie is gone now and that's all water under the bridge. Would you have a view on who would be a bit addition to the set up that would improve the tackling aspect? I am not sure how much of the poor tackling was simply down to the wrong mindset which is hard to get right once a game starts and is going against you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 0:02:47 GMT
If Buckley was that good, gavin would have hired him a long time ago Yeah they were desperate for a coach infairness given their lack of success. True, gavin would only be interested in coaches who have actually won things
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 0:09:57 GMT
I think the point by darran on sports psychology is a good one. Kerry have lost too many close encounters over the last 20 years for this to be ignored.
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Post by Mickmack on Dec 2, 2020 9:11:17 GMT
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TUE, 01 DEC, 2020 - 07:00 PAUL KEANE
Darran O’Sullivan believes Kerry management teams have consistently neglected the area of sports psychology and ultimately paid a high price.
The former captain reckons they would have won more in the 2000s if they’d just bought into Jack O’Connor’s efforts to improve their mental conditioning.
As for Kerry’s recent surprise defeat to Cork in the Munster championship, ending their campaign, he said there’s ‘no doubt in my mind they were looking ahead’ and weren’t fully focused.
The League title holders and 2019 All-Ireland runners up lost a dogfight and O’Sullivan believes they ‘probably thought, “Ah look, they’ll give us a bit of a scare, we’ll pull away, we have enough talent”.’
“I am no expert but I genuinely believe that’s something we have been lacking for a while,” said the four-time All-Ireland winner.
“We dabbled in it. It was Jack O’Connor who brought it in first and that’s going back a long time.
“Of course, we were a bit more old school then and he was kind of laughed out the door. Jack was the first one that brought it in and we just didn’t buy into it. I genuinely believe if we had, and I heard Tadhg Kennelly saying it recently, that even though we had great success in the 2000s, we should have had more.
I genuinely believe, and it’s easy to say now, hindsight is a fine thing, and it wasn’t something I was into either, I thought it was pure old rubbish. I bought into since and I believe we would have had more success in the noughties if we had bought into that side of things.”
Kerry manager Peter Keane is expected to make changes to his backroom team for 2021, including appointing a replacement for Donie Buckley who quit his coaching role last March. O’Sullivan would like to see a full-time sports psychologist added.
“I don’t know if it’s that kind of a nostalgia thing or a romantic thing that we just do things (our way), you go on the field and you kick the ball and you play football but that’s not the way the game is anymore,” he said.
“There’s so much more to it than that. I think there are boxes that we’re not ticking.
“We’ve dabbled with it (sports psychology) but never really stuck at it where you had somebody and it was part of your routine and it was part of your monthly or yearly training plan that we spent time with the sports psychologist.
“With the demands on players outside of football and obviously we talk about the pressure of not winning an All-Ireland, I do think it’s an area where we’re lacking. I do think it’s an area where Dublin are strong.
“If you look at all their games, how many All-Irelands have Dublin won by more than three or four points? Not many. That’s down to their mental toughness. You can say physically that maybe we weren’t as fit as them or as fast, I think that’s bull*. My thing is, if you’re mentally strong you don’t get tired, you come into it then.”
O’Sullivan puts the Cork defeat down to a ‘bad day at the office’ and believes the players are ‘ready to go’ for 2021 despite rumours of dissatisfaction with the management and of a possible heave against Peter Keane.
“They are not that type of fellas, they are after sacrificing how many years for Kerry,” said O’Sullivan of ‘pathetic’ gossip about certain players pushing for a heave. “They are not going to put Kerry through the ringer and make them look like they are a *show for the sake of getting rid of a manager.”
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Post by buck02 on Dec 2, 2020 10:48:32 GMT
On the topic of attacking coaching strategies - from what I have seen of Kerry over the last two years there seems to be little coherent, pre-planned strategies in play. Take for example the forward mark. I would love to know how many forward marks we got this year. I would hazard a guess at less than 6. I'm not sure did we even score from one?
Look at Dublin's "set piece" plays from free kicks they get in the middle of the pitch. They have scored numerous goals nevermind points from these scenarios in big games over the years. When we get frees in the middle of the field the default mindset seems to be to turn around and kick it backwards or sideways.
Now what I will say when it comes to this "defensive" gameplan that both Peter and Eamonn Fitz before him have been criticised for - is it a simple case that our backs are not good enough and this has forced the last two managers hands with how they have decided to play.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Dec 2, 2020 12:33:05 GMT
Yeah they were desperate for a coach infairness given their lack of success. True, gavin would only be interested in coaches who have actually won things How many all Irelands has Declan Darcy? None.
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Post by homerj on Dec 2, 2020 12:35:17 GMT
all well and good asking for a psychologist and coaches to be added, the thing is, do we have the money for this given the county board and GAA lost most of its income this year?
i dont think its viable unless we have volunteers which are scarce enough.
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Post by taibhse on Dec 2, 2020 12:54:06 GMT
We have had Psychologists as part of the Senior set-up for some years now - even in Darran's time. Fact.
An older cousin of our Psychologist is the table/door/light bulb/furniture breaker! They didn't cost as much.
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