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Post by taibhse on Oct 25, 2020 10:28:46 GMT
It's been a long wait but it's looking like maybe we will have a competition after all. The first leg of the double secured and now time to start the discussion about how to double up. Cork first up and we can never look past that. Lets all hope that players and all concerned remain healthy and that we get a fair shot at Sam.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Oct 25, 2020 11:43:24 GMT
Assuming the panel remains healthy I think for Cork we will see the following Shane Ryan Jason Foley Tadhg Morley Tom Sullivan Paul Murphy Peter Crowley Gavin White David Moran Jack Barry Diarmuid O Connor Seanie Shea Michael Burns Tony Brosnan David Clifford Stephen O’Brien
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Shane Enright Gavin Crowley Brian O’Beglioch Jack Sherwood Paul Geaney Darragh Moynihan James O Donoghue
I think this is what will start against Cork - if we can get over Cork I can see Paul Geaney restored to full forward with Stephen O’Brien moving to half forward line. I think Peter Keane will go with Peter Crowley and hope he improves with games (obviously assuming we keep progressing)
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Post by peanuts on Oct 25, 2020 11:54:43 GMT
Assuming the panel remains healthy I think for Cork we will see the following Shane Ryan Jason Foley Tadhg Morley Tom Sullivan Paul Murphy Peter Crowley Gavin White David Moran Jack Barry Diarmuid O Connor Seanie Shea Michael Burns Tony Brosnan David Clifford Stephen O’Brien Subs to be involved Shane Enright Gavin Crowley Brian O’Beglioch Jack Sherwood Paul Geaney Darragh Moynihan James O Donoghue I think this is what will start against Cork - if we can get over Cork I can see Paul Geaney restored to full forward with Stephen O’Brien moving to half forward line. I think Peter Keane will go with Peter Crowley and hope he improves with games (obviously assuming we keep progressing) I don’t think Burns will start with Moynihan there instead. Buckley will surely make the panel after starting the last two weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 11:55:23 GMT
Assuming the panel remains healthy I think for Cork we will see the following Shane Ryan Jason Foley Tadhg Morley Tom Sullivan Paul Murphy Peter Crowley Gavin White David Moran Jack Barry Diarmuid O Connor Seanie Shea Michael Burns Tony Brosnan David Clifford Stephen O’Brien Subs to be involved Shane Enright Gavin Crowley Brian O’Beglioch Jack Sherwood Paul Geaney Darragh Moynihan James O Donoghue I think this is what will start against Cork - if we can get over Cork I can see Paul Geaney restored to full forward with Stephen O’Brien moving to half forward line. I think Peter Keane will go with Peter Crowley and hope he improves with games (obviously assuming we keep progressing) I think that is a likely starting 15, I think Moynihan might have the edge over burns but it is pretty marginal.
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Post by taggert on Oct 25, 2020 14:24:13 GMT
Moynihan and Buckley will both start for me agsinst Cork. Played high intensity Co. C'ship games then the 2 Kerry games. That continuity of game time, running in their legs and form can't be switched on ocernight. Both also work like dogs and neither cough up possession cheaply with poor decisions like others do - Burns for example. Both deserve to start. I think Keane likes what these 2 bring and I dont see these being displaced anytime soon. And I'm not an E. Kerry man either!
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Post by thenewguy on Oct 25, 2020 14:58:27 GMT
Burns loses a bit of ball but he plays the game at alot higher pace than buckley and dara who slow up the play with sideways passing. its strange how we haven't seen more time for p clifford. is all the pressure from past kerry players to play him going against him
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Post by taggert on Oct 25, 2020 15:09:27 GMT
Burns loses a bit of ball but he plays the game at alot higher pace than buckley and dara who slow up the play with sideways passing. its strange how we haven't seen more time for p clifford. is all the pressure from past kerry players to play him going against him Time will tell if Keane agrees with you. I don't for what its worth.
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Oct 25, 2020 15:34:45 GMT
Gabh mo leath sceal . If we progress out of Munster what province will we face.
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Post by taggert on Oct 25, 2020 15:40:15 GMT
Connacht. Right now, smart money on Donegal v Dublin and Mayo v Kerry. However, Tyrone, Galway and Cork may have a thing or two to say about that....
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Post by haryegsnbaken on Oct 25, 2020 15:47:30 GMT
Connacht. Right now, smart money on Donegal v Dublin and Mayo v Kerry. However, Tyrone, Galway and Cork may have a thing or two to say about that.... Thanks for that. Ciarrai Abu.
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Post by southward on Oct 25, 2020 15:54:23 GMT
Connacht. Right now, smart money on Donegal v Dublin and Mayo v Kerry. However, Tyrone, Galway and Cork may have a thing or two to say about that.... The same Mayo that just got relegated to Div 2? I'll pass on that bet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 16:01:44 GMT
The same Mayo that hammered their biggest provincial rivals a week ago
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 25, 2020 16:36:08 GMT
People always forget Roscommon who regularly beat Mayo and Galway in Connacht.
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Post by dano on Oct 25, 2020 16:51:24 GMT
Whatever happened to Galway last week against Mayo is a Mystery. They were much better against a far superior team today. Anything could happen in Connaught and don't count out the Rossies. If Kerry can win Munster I'd still prefer they got Mayo in The Semi.
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 25, 2020 21:50:19 GMT
Dublin have not really had a dominant performance yet under Dessie Farrell and still finished second in the Division.
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Post by dano on Oct 25, 2020 23:52:37 GMT
According to E Sweeny in today's Indo no one is good enough to beat Dublin except for Mayo. I love it! Passive aggressively overlooking and disrespecting the League Champions. He followed up with an excuse in advance for his Beloved Dubs in case they lose. It will be due to Covid says he.
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Post by dano on Oct 25, 2020 23:53:33 GMT
According to E Sweeny in today's Indo no one is good enough to beat Dublin except for Mayo. I love it! Passive aggressively overlooking and disrespecting the League Champions. He followed up with an excuse in advance for his Beloved Dubs in case they lose. It will be due to Covid says he.
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Post by kerryeastcoastusa on Oct 26, 2020 0:49:02 GMT
Burns loses a bit of ball but he plays the game at alot higher pace than buckley and dara who slow up the play with sideways passing. its strange how we haven't seen more time for p clifford. is all the pressure from past kerry players to play him going against him Time will tell if Keane agrees with you. I don't for what its worth. I don’t think Buckley has done enough in the past 2 games to force a place in the starting 15. He has settled in well and has been steady but nothing exceptional. I do think Buckley will eventually turn into an excellent wing forward for Kerry but I think it will be next year after a full league campaign.
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Post by onlykerry on Oct 26, 2020 17:38:13 GMT
Peter Keane selected and started the same team for the two final league games - I think this is a strong indicator of his current thinking ahead of the Championship. There were two changes to the bench for the Donegal game, both were players that were returning from injury and who would be expected to be in the running for starting berths. Pa Kilkenny and Joe O Connor were the two to lose out and both were unused subs against Monaghan. Brian Kelly, Shane Enright and Graham O Sullivan were the only subs (both days) not to get some game time. Still injured are PG and JOD (anybody else?) and if available both would be expected to make the matchday panel at least - given their lack of matches that may be as much as they can expect and they will need to play their way back into contention demonstrating they are back to the pitch of championship football. The condensed schedule will make it difficult for players to get back in but injury and Covid may play a role before the year is out. We appear to have a strong panel and that could well make all the difference given the schedule this year. Thinner squads will not be able to cope with injuries to the same extent. Knock out football is all about staying alive and winning ugly if necessary - first hurdle the auld enemy Cork. For those of us who are around a little longer its like going back in time to when every championship game was a nail biting, stomach churning, do or die event. Here is hoping for a happy ending for Kerry...................
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 17:48:20 GMT
I would agree with that. Jack Sherwood is also an absentee.
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Oct 26, 2020 18:28:25 GMT
I am assuming we will start with the same team as the last two matches. Especially given Keane's comments: www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1024/1173740-league-win-perfect-preparation-for-cork-clash-keane/He started the same team int he last two matches, obviously hoping to see this team v Cork. With Geaney, Sherwood and a host of others held back. You want to keep something in reserve and build for the future. If we are ahead of Cork with 20 minutes to play we can always bring on the big guns. If not, we wouldn't be too far behind Cork I'd say and the reserves would win the game. Also probably preparing for Dublin who usually don't win the first half or just barely, but win games in the last 20 minutes. So that's probably what Keane is preparing for. There is no reason why the team that started v Monaghan and Donegal wouldn't also be able to beat Cork or at least stay close to them. Moran, Barry and O'Connor being the main midfielders (we probably need another option there and Sean O'Shea or Tommy Walsh might be that option) Shane Ryan in goals Full back line Jason Foley, Tadhg Morley, Tom Sullivan with Sherwood, Enright, Graham O'Sullivan, Gavin Crowley and Ó Beaglaoich all options. Lyne might be in the half backs mix too. Half Back line: Paul Murphy, Peter Crowley, Gavin White with he same lads above (Sherwood, Enright, Gavin Crowley, Ó Beaglaoich, O'Sullivan and Lyne) amongst the lads who might make the bench. If we have learned anything at all about Keane is that he picks players based on training. The current defensive system also seems to allow more for players playing in different positions at times. Forward options are the same. Obviously you want Brosnan and Clifford close to goal, but we seem to disregard the numbers on players' backs more and more. Players will play in the position they need to play in during the game. So I;m thinking Keane will stick with Burns, O'Shea, Buckley, Clifford and Moynihan. Geaney, O'Donoghue, Paudie Clifford, Kilian Psillane, Tommy Walsh, Stephen O'Brien all options. Our big worry last year was defence, we were never short up front. So its makes sense to sort that issue out.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 26, 2020 19:08:06 GMT
Peter Crowley looked below form in the county championship and it seems to be the same so far with Kerry. I suppose PK is banking on his experience being important and hopefully his form will improve.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 26, 2020 19:26:35 GMT
It's great to have the inter-county football back.
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Post by goonised on Oct 27, 2020 0:37:28 GMT
Cork are absolutely hopeless
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Post by dc84 on Oct 27, 2020 10:58:15 GMT
Im not 100% on that half back line to honest i dont think its physical enough (i acknowledge that white has bulked up). If sherwood isnt injured its odd he hasnt played personnally i would use him for last 20 mins like last year his direct running through the middle caused all sorts of problems.
Tony Brosnans emergence has been great we need a second scorer in there with David we rely way too much on him and o shea. Id have moynihan over burns at the minute but maybe o connor would be an option with barry and moran at mf. Id go with
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Tom sull Morley Foley
Murphy Gavin Crowley White
Barry Moran O connor
Moynihan O shea O brien
Brosnan Clifford
3 midfielders to cover the half back line with the half backline and tom sull given free reign to attack. Its more or less what we have seen from kerry so far.
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Post by onlykerry on Oct 27, 2020 11:32:14 GMT
Cork V Kerry will be taking place under lights most likely with a 4pm throw in. Sunset is about 5pm.
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Post by tonydorigo on Oct 27, 2020 11:48:01 GMT
Great to be in the position that we are in as regards depth of the squad. Only thing we are probably missing is some game time for corner backs such as Graham O'Sullivan and Shane Enright. Foley is still too easily turned for my liking.
What are everyones thoughts on the blanket defence system? Will we have a problem with it as footballing purists if we win an All Ireland with it?
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Post by dc84 on Oct 27, 2020 12:01:48 GMT
Great to be in the position that we are in as regards depth of the squad. Only thing we are probably missing is some game time for corner backs such as Graham O'Sullivan and Shane Enright. Foley is still too easily turned for my liking. What are everyones thoughts on the blanket defence system? Will we have a problem with it as footballing purists if we win an All Ireland with it? I dont think we will play that way for entire matches i believe (hope) that its was just PK using the 2 games to refine a part of a gameplan. I would be shocked if we(or any other team) won an all ireland playing blanket defence it has only been done once in 130 plus years after all!
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Post by john4 on Oct 27, 2020 12:56:31 GMT
Great to be in the position that we are in as regards depth of the squad. Only thing we are probably missing is some game time for corner backs such as Graham O'Sullivan and Shane Enright. Foley is still too easily turned for my liking. What are everyones thoughts on the blanket defence system? Will we have a problem with it as footballing purists if we win an All Ireland with it? I dont think we will play that way for entire matches i believe (hope) that its was just PK using the 2 games to refine a part of a gameplan. I would be shocked if we(or any other team) won an all ireland playing blanket defence it has only been done once in 130 plus years after all! Prior to the introduction of the mark I would agree with you, but things have changed and I think no team with ambition can afford not to crowd the defensive half of the field. The work rate involved in this is savage but the alternative is to possibly offer handy pops from 30 - 40 yards. AFL is played exactly like this, nobody is anymore than 50 metres from the ball at any one time. Any further from the ball you are infective. Horrible to watch but this is what has been created.
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Post by veteran on Oct 27, 2020 15:50:58 GMT
Cork are absolutely hopeless They weren’t that hopeless in the final of 2019. It is difficult to evaluate Cork this year. Playing in division 3 will not have helped them apart from gaining confidence from winning matches . They did win the u20 last year as impressively as I have ever seen an u20/21 team win that grade. While it is a bit early in their development I would expect some of them to contribute significantly to the senior team this year. Making predictions is always hazardous but notoriously this year because of unique variables like heavy pitches, inclement weather conditions , no supporters present and of course the unmentionable causing absentees in terms of personnel and indeed teams. The one certainty from my standpoint is that I will not be giving any donations to Paddy Power in 2020.
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