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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 6, 2020 12:56:49 GMT
Great to see so many on the wall showing no fear. Of course it could be a different matter if they fell onto the grassy knoll as a mysterious thing may be awaiting them. Hopefully veteran and southward got a seat. Regarding the game, surely that was a penalty for Listowel. They were the better team for long periods but fell off in the last 10 minutes or so when it counted. The two Kennellys the difference. An otherwise performing McCarthy was already well on the way to going down and I suppose the ref didn't deem the subsequent hand on the back an offence. In the spur of the moment Robert O Muircheartaigh and Kennedy were amazed it wasn't a penalty and then changed their minds when they saw it again. I thought it was good refereeing and there were other marginal calls the ref also got right, not than I'm the expert. Refs are touchy on fellas faking it as they know that if they themselves are blindsided they will feel obliged to compensate and which could change the outcome of a game - nobody wants that. The big trick in that dept is of course gripping the markers wrist and then making it look like he tugged you - fellas that get caught out at this seldom if ever again get any sympathy from any ref and I could quote a few notable scenarios - I think refs compare notes here and rightfully so as reffing is hard enough and a thankless job enough besides being misled and then being isolated out in the middle of a pitch having to take earfuls from players and hurlers of the ditch alike. The only hard luck the townies really had was the punch to the crossbar and while that would only have been a point at best, I don't think the rule was to discourage what was a great movement. Listowel were good when they got going but they could hardly complain about the result, the score. The Kennelly 4 and The Foley 3, 7 from the Ballyconry Road, Tomaisín's and Donal's grandsons - grandas would also be happy enough with how things have turned out! Veteran Cremins looks to be getting better and hard to see what he was doing with 21 on his back while the Cross's Behan is keen and progressing nicely, following in his father steps and who helped change the path of history when he instigated what I personally finished off against a gallant Duagh brigade only yesterday, right on their own doorstep, drove it through the front door, albeit the man of the house was out! And we have Robert O Muircheartaigh yet to this day feeding off our hard work, commanding millions as a commentator off our backs, no justice for elite athletes like us, all we got was Connemara Marble plaques, ah they were the most precious ones the pair of us ever got, and probably deserved! Them crazy catch and kick days when boys were men, an infantry battalion of 14½ buck navvies in a motorcade of aon glusitean amháinm when Hitler was headed to Poland and Paddy to Hollyhead, Ballydonoghue were headed to Duagh! Sure we even had to take on the civic guards as John B would respectfully call 'em, them asking Timmy Carr how many on board and to which he'd tell 'em he was short two. Reminds me a bit of a night recently in enemy territory when a tri-party of fooleens made out the 3 worst of their kin went to Kerry once and became heros - I said I'd believe it only that 'twas the wrong 3 they sent! What level are other teams at in NK today?
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Post by otobeawinner on Sept 6, 2020 16:27:39 GMT
If the hand on the back helped in any way bring the player to the ground then it was a penalty. Hard call to be fair.
To answer your qs bally, the one after the ramblings that made a short comment long, I suggest watching the other game and listening to the rest live and FOC on north kerry board facebook page to ascertain a view on who might have an outside chance of beating the clear favourites ballydonoughue.
Desmonds just put their hand up but as I said previously next week they might not bother.
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Post by statistician on Sept 6, 2020 18:51:47 GMT
Sponsored by McMunn's Bar and Restaurant Ballybunion - 2020 Bernard O'Callaghan Memorial North Kerry Senior Football Championship First Round:
Today’s Results: Finuge 2-14 (2-13) Castleisland Desmonds 2-20 (2-13) After Extra Time
Moyvane 1-10 Knocknagoshel 1-11
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 7, 2020 18:06:41 GMT
If the hand on the back helped in any way bring the player to the ground then it was a penalty. Hard call to be fair. To answer your qs bally, the one after the ramblings that made a short comment long, I suggest watching the other game and listening to the rest live and FOC on north kerry board facebook page to ascertain a view on who might have an outside chance of beating the clear favourites ballydonoughue. Desmonds just put their hand up but as I said previously next week they might not bother. Does anyone know when it occurred and we can take another look?
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 8, 2020 3:14:21 GMT
Wouldn't mind another look but as I recall the forward was already falling so the only question was whether or not it was on purpose and that is the part that is the hard call - 'drawing penalties' is a card offence in soccer, a red? Reffing is hard enough besides fells trying to fool him and of course it can determine the outcome of a game and which is most unfair, not least on the poor innocent who gets wronged. A hand often finds the back if the fella in front falls onto your path, you instinctively put out your hand to avoid falling on top of him, and in which case it wouldn't be a foul - that may have been the case here and the forward laddo was falling well before the hand contacted his back.
Not my problem otobeawinner if ya don't take light from my reminiscing in hardish times and sure didn't ya ruin my prospect of enjoying that other game by telling me what it was about. Still I wouldn't rule any team out and while Ballydonoghue look good, given we haven't see much football in a while we are all susceptible to making teams out to be a bit better than they really are and only time will tell who comes out on top. Hard on Listowel now to be out and they a very fine panel of players.
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Post by Mickmack on Sept 8, 2020 9:08:03 GMT
Wouldn't mind another look but You can view a replay of a game for 30 days
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 8, 2020 16:12:25 GMT
Wouldn't mind another look but You can view a replay of a game for 30 days Ta Mick and that's great, anyone recall what stage of the game it was? Ah we have little to be doing though I'm happy to support the ref and from what i can recall he made a very inspired call. Refs should be our friends as they keep a game on track to bring out the best talent, it is an Irish thing to reject oversight authority and believe you me the GAA isn't the biggest culprit. BTW is it me or did anyone else notice that at longer range the camera doesn't appear to reflect the distance, e.g. when focused into the FB/FF line do the 20m, 13m and end line look closer to each other than they really are. Ah now it is a brill job, but i didn't get that impression with the previous broadcasts. Also, did anyone pick up on how much Michael (Mitch?) Foley (no 9 for the 'hoors) has bloomed, he looks mighty, filled out more than big broth Jason though latter is hard as iron and looks to be getting even more fluent in how he goes about things, an auld haul of Celtic Crosses would be nice around the Cross, even if it was just back the road? I'll hold my breath, Ballyconry was good back in the day and a Parish League would their's today.
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Post by Ballyfireside on Sept 8, 2020 23:28:17 GMT
Just had a look back, it was at 36 mins (of the 2 hour broadcast as opposed to game time), can't understand why Emmets' McCarthy didn't take a shot for goal as he only had the goalie to beat, and as opposed to veering right (and down), and onto the path of the retreating defender and who couldn't avoid the collision, and indeed putting his hand out to avoid falling on his face as he was effectively being brought down by McCarthy.
Just goes to show how hard reffing is but is this instance the ref was right up with the play so looks like he called it right. Commentators also commended the ref in this respect and conceded that they were further away - thing is they had a second look at that stage, poor ref has to make these decisions on the fly - anyone to be a ref must be either very gifted or a pure fool, a thankless job no matter how good you are.
Only McCarthy knows why he fell and the direction he fall, as a goal was on.
As an afterthought on refs, in comparing linesmen John B once described a particular game where one stayed right up with the play and would have picked up on the tight decisions, while his counterpart across the field enjoyed the game and 'arrived at the scene' of a line ball and based his judgement on what the players thought by way of where they were lining up for the free - if there was dispute 'he'd 'be sure' it twas a throw in, and os everyone thought he was the better linesman and maybe it all evened itself out over time and everyone was happy and so maybe he was the best! In this case a penalty would probably be given, maybe no action replay shown, but it could have changed the result of the game.
Peig was right, is ait an mac an saol!
Now that's making a short answer longer and anyone why objects can opt for the shorter version!
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Post by kingdomofciar on Sept 13, 2020 9:01:03 GMT
This might be of interest from a north Kerry point of view
Ballydonoghue vs Finuge Co. Junior Championship Quarter Final
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Post by kingdomofciar on Sept 13, 2020 9:05:30 GMT
2020 North Kerry Championship Sponsored by McMunns Bar and Restaurant Ballybunion - Fixtures & Results Time Team 1 Score vs Score Team 2 Comment More 2020 North Kerry Championship Sponsored by McMunns Bar and Restaurant Ballybunion 05/09/2020 00:00 Ballyduff - vs - Bye More 00:00 Brosna - vs - Bye More 19:00 Listowel Emmets 1-10 vs 1-14 Ballydonoghue Round 1 More 06/09/2020 14:00 Finuge 2-14 vs 2-20 Castleisland Desmonds Round 1 More 16:00 Moyvane 1-10 vs 1-11 Knocknagoshel Round 1 More 12/09/2020 16:00 Beale 1-8 vs 1-7 St Senans Round 1 More 13/09/2020 14:00 Tarbert - vs - Asdee Round 1 More 16:00 Ballylongford - vs - Duagh Round 1 More
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Post by wideball on Sept 13, 2020 9:19:34 GMT
Big win for Beale yesterday over the defending champions. St.Senans looked to have the game won when they goaled with the wind at their back in the second half but the water break came at the wrong time for them. Very good production quality from the North Kerry Board. Beale kicked a lot of wide's yesterday and will need to improve on their shooting if they want to go further.
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Post by otobeawinner on Sept 13, 2020 15:39:50 GMT
What a win for asdee 2 08 to 11 points against tarbert. Asdee saved a penalty near the end also. This was definitely not expected and should remind anyone who plays team sports that the sum of the parts is greater. If this great village can get help with building up the area as envisaged in past weeks in the media then who knows what may happen in the next decade.
The Beale win was huge for them too but senans just couldn't manage the amount of changes in personal again this year. Another 5 starters from last years cship I think. They looked a poor outfit yesterday and a shadow of the past 2 years. 3 in a row is rare for a reason and to be the dominant team in NK for 2 years after a maiden victory was good going.
Duagh will hardly be caught napping today. But who knows.
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Post by mossie on Sept 13, 2020 19:06:56 GMT
What a win for asdee 2 08 to 11 points against tarbert. Asdee saved a penalty near the end also. This was definitely not expected and should remind anyone who plays team sports that the sum of the parts is greater. If this great village can get help with building up the area as envisaged in past weeks in the media then who knows what may happen in the next decade. The Beale win was huge for them too but senans just couldn't manage the amount of changes in personal again this year. Another 5 starters from last years cship I think. They looked a poor outfit yesterday and a shadow of the past 2 years. 3 in a row is rare for a reason and to be the dominant team in NK for 2 years after a maiden victory was good going. Duagh will hardly be caught napping today. But who knows. when did Asdee last win a match in the NK chamship? Senans have had a great run, they will be back. Barry Mahony a big loss to them
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Post by thechosenone on Sept 13, 2020 21:54:23 GMT
Bernard O Callaghan Senior Championship 2020 Sponsored by McMunns Ballybunion Quarter Finals Natural Venue's Beale v Knocknagoshel Duagh v Brosna Asdee v Ballydonoghue Ballyduff v Castleisland Desmonds
Beale Brosna Ballydonoghue Desmond's
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Post by otobeawinner on Sept 13, 2020 22:13:36 GMT
Bernard O Callaghan Senior Championship 2020 Sponsored by McMunns Ballybunion Quarter Finals Natural Venue's Beale v Knocknagoshel Duagh v Brosna Asdee v Ballydonoghue Ballyduff v Castleisland Desmonds Beale Brosna Ballydonoghue Desmond's 4 from 6 prediction this week. Missed the 2 upsets but that's sport. Predictions for the 1/4 finals. I'll go with beale no real reasoning only they didn't panic and have a lot of experience. Not so sure about knock. 1 score game. brosna as they are going well and have last years loss to drive them on. ballyD as poor asdee could not have got a much worse draw. and Desmonds as it's perfect for them with intermediate c'ship to keep their run going. Only an opinion but keeps it interesting. Really good fixtures with actual people likely to be able to attend. The year is not lost yet.
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Post by ballybunion on Sept 14, 2020 8:38:16 GMT
Bernard O Callaghan Senior Championship 2020 Sponsored by McMunns Ballybunion Quarter Finals Beale v Knocknagoshel -Tough but you would have to fancy Beale. Duagh v Brosna.Brosna favourites but Duagh going well and are the dark horses with new young players.Draw Asdee v Ballydonoghue. Fantastic result by Asdee but I have to go with Ballydonoghue. Ballyduff v Castleisland Desmonds.Hard to call Ballyduff sometimes, but Desmonds on present form.
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Post by mossie on Sept 19, 2020 0:42:30 GMT
I am going with Castleisland for the 2020 honours
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Post by veteran on Oct 3, 2020 20:41:53 GMT
Castleisland 2-11 Ballyduff 1-8 HT 0-8 1-2
I availed of a perfect streaming service to view this for a fiver. The quality was moderate with the teams, Castleisland in particular, indulging in too much short passing on a night when the rain made those tactics inappropriate . Both teams had a lot of young players on duty with especially Ballyduff having a lot of names unfamiliar to me while on the other hand they were short the Boyle brothers- Mikie and Podge. Not easy to adequately replace those buckos.
The teams exchanged points early on. Then Jack O'Sullivan, the best midfielder about, kicked it in long and accurately to Michael Slattery who fielded it inside his man, Brian Leonard?, made tracks for goal and slotted it home. The long ball paying dividends on a miserable night. Castleisland replied with three points at a time during which Thomas Hickey was very prominent.
And now folks we will have a water break on a wet , winterish night. If water was required, all the players need to have done was to open their mouths and look heavenwards. In that way they could have satisfied their water and spiritual needs. What genius thought up this idea? How long more do we have to endure it?
After that badly needed intake of water, the ever dangerous Thomas Hickey kicked a terrific point and he then pointed a free. Shortly afterwards he came out to collect a low ball and immediately went down with what was clearly a serious leg injury and was stretchered off. This exciting, enterprising corner forward has no luck. Come back soon Thomas.
The second half resumed with Barry O'Grady kicking three consecutive frees for the Duffers. No lie down from those boys. However, their resistance, if not broken, was badly dented when Thomas Lynch, he masterfully took over leadership of Castleisland's forwards after the departure of Thomas, fed Adam O'Donoghue and Adam fired off a bullet to the net. Adam had a scored a fine point in the first half. After a desperately needed second water break , Thomas Lynch paraded his class once more with a point. The menacing Michael Slattery pulled one back for Ballyduff but shortly afterwards PJ Curtin got Castleisland's second goal after a complicated move. In truth , the issue was decided prior to that.
Brian Leonard was a tenacious defender for Castleisland , Maurice Hickey impressed at times at midfield.
Ballyduff probably did not deserve such a heavy defeat but the absence of the Boyle boys made a difficult task too onerous. As always, they played to their capacity and clearly they are nurturing some very promising young lads not least young Slattery and young Moriarty.
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Post by thechosenone on Oct 3, 2020 22:41:43 GMT
Semi final draw was made this evening.
Castleisland v Beale Brosna v Ballydonoghue
Brosna and Ballydonoghue also meeting in Junior Premier semi final tomorrow at 4pm in Austin Stack Park.
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Post by homerj on Oct 4, 2020 17:01:08 GMT
how is this gonna work with kerry players?
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Post by greengold35 on Oct 4, 2020 17:04:14 GMT
how is this gonna work with kerry players? Kerry players ( senior & U-20) unavailable for all district championships.
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Post by homerj on Oct 4, 2020 17:29:48 GMT
so the semis wont go ahead then until kerry go out of the championship?
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Post by clubman on Oct 4, 2020 18:27:49 GMT
I presume no team has to play without their county player unless they agree otherwise
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Post by southward on Oct 4, 2020 19:24:39 GMT
how is this gonna work with kerry players? I can only think of Jason Foley from those four. Anyone else?
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Post by fealeside on Oct 5, 2020 13:05:49 GMT
how is this gonna work with kerry players? I can only think of Jason Foley from those four. Anyone else? Paul Walsh and Jack Kennelly with the 20's
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Post by fealeside on Oct 5, 2020 13:06:40 GMT
I can only think of Jason Foley from those four. Anyone else? Paul Walsh and Jack Kennelly with the 20's Luka Brosnan as well
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Post by otobeawinner on Oct 5, 2020 18:52:52 GMT
Everything is on pause now anyway so a traditional NK final is possible but more likely that it will be played in jan 21. Which a few years ago was the norm anyway until a bit of sense was injected into the running of the c'ship. I cant see intercounty played out in full this year either so a long dark winter awaits I fear.
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Post by homerj on Oct 16, 2020 22:24:28 GMT
cant see these games being played until March/April to be honest.
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