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Post by taibhse on Oct 16, 2020 10:23:15 GMT
‘Play the ball, not the man’ - typical equivocation used as a substitute for a straight answer. A few pages back it was Croppy lie down. More recently it’s an irrational parade of Tyrants and autocrats. I recognise that comment comes from a place of deep frustration but you seem to have a compulsive urge to think out loud. It’s about time you lost the 'I know everything and you people are stupid' attitude. You have been incontrovertibly exposed ascribing to yourself knowledge that you really don’t possess. Having a big hole poked in your perceived status as the resident go-to person for almost every topic is a paradigm shift that is emotionally challenging for you.
Might I suggest that some of the annoyance you have is a reflection of your flawed argument, rather than being the fault of others? Perhaps you were too focused on brandishing your educational credentials as a shield against disagreement and a knockdown to others. Donagh O’Malley would be disappointed.
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Post by taibhse on Oct 16, 2020 10:25:07 GMT
‘Play the ball, not the man’ - typical equivocation used as a substitute for a straight answer. A few pages back it was Croppy lie down. More recently it’s an irrational parade of Tyrants and autocrats. I recognise that comment comes from a place of deep frustration but you seem to have a compulsive urge to think out loud. It’s about time you lost the 'I know everything and you people are stupid' attitude. You have been incontrovertibly exposed ascribing to yourself knowledge that you really don’t possess. Having a big hole poked in your perceived status as the resident go-to person for almost every topic is a paradigm shift that is emotionally challenging for you.
Might I suggest that some of the annoyance you have is a reflection of your flawed argument, rather than being the fault of others? Perhaps you were too focused on brandishing your UCC educational credentials as a shield against disagreement and a knockdown to others. Donagh O’Malley would be disappointed.
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Post by Jo90 on Oct 16, 2020 10:58:28 GMT
Although I don’t visit this site too often these days, I assume people are aware we play Monaghan on Sunday next with a league final place still up for grabs? There's no league final, whoever is top of the table after the final 2 games wins the league. With Kerry 2nd, a point behind Galway and Galway to play Mayo and Dublin, it's quite likely that if Kerry win their 2 league games they win the league.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Oct 16, 2020 11:12:30 GMT
‘Play the ball, not the man’ - typical equivocation used as a substitute for a straight answer. A few pages back it was Croppy lie down. More recently it’s an irrational parade of Tyrants and autocrats. I recognise that comment comes from a place of deep frustration but you seem to have a compulsive urge to think out loud. It’s about time you lost the 'I know everything and you people are stupid' attitude. You have been incontrovertibly exposed ascribing to yourself knowledge that you really don’t possess. Having a big hole poked in your perceived status as the resident go-to person for almost every topic is a paradigm shift that is emotionally challenging for you. Might I suggest that some of the annoyance you have is a reflection of your flawed argument, rather than being the fault of others? Perhaps you were too focused on brandishing your educational credentials as a shield against disagreement and a knockdown to others. Donagh O’Malley would be disappointed. Skepticism for the media and experts but not for conspiracy theories.
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Post by rollingstone on Oct 16, 2020 12:47:32 GMT
Dear oh dear. I give incontrovertible facts from uncontroversial sources and then I'm accused by Bally of twisting statistics for my own agenda - I really cannot win. Annascaul then has to make the obligatory sarcastic and ill informed comment but as usual, ignores the points I make. And taibshe slaughters Veteran for calling out the BS. What conspiracies were in any of his posts? None but again, facts don't matter anymore, only feelings.
I won't go on as we'll be threatened with closure again, all I is to urge the silent majority on here and the rest of you to ignore the hysteria, switch off RTE and review the facts as they lie, they are all available with a little bit of digging as I have shown. Please do your own research and you will be pleasantly surprised to discover that we're in very little danger and not doomed to certain death as we're being made to believe. Remember that back in the spring it was flatten the curve of deaths, not cases. Now it's all CASES CASES CASES as inconveniently for the powers that be, deaths remain stubbornly flat since June.
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Post by Aodhan on Oct 16, 2020 13:08:33 GMT
‘Play the ball, not the man’ - typical equivocation used as a substitute for a straight answer. A few pages back it was Croppy lie down. More recently it’s an irrational parade of Tyrants and autocrats. I recognise that comment comes from a place of deep frustration but you seem to have a compulsive urge to think out loud. It’s about time you lost the 'I know everything and you people are stupid' attitude. You have been incontrovertibly exposed ascribing to yourself knowledge that you really don’t possess. Having a big hole poked in your perceived status as the resident go-to person for almost every topic is a paradigm shift that is emotionally challenging for you. Might I suggest that some of the annoyance you have is a reflection of your flawed argument, rather than being the fault of others? Perhaps you were too focused on brandishing your educational credentials as a shield against disagreement and a knockdown to others. Donagh O’Malley would be disappointed. Skepticism for the media and experts but not for conspiracy theories. Thousands of experts worldwide have lost their licenses because they questioned the narrative while others put a pay cheque ahead of the well-being of the people. When are veteran’s questions going to be addressed by our Forum ‘expert’?
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Post by buck02 on Oct 16, 2020 13:18:56 GMT
My attempts at hijacking this thread to talk about, you know, football seems to have failed miserably.
Remember the days when all we had to worry about was evil Sky Sports - they were great days.
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Post by veteran on Oct 16, 2020 13:49:59 GMT
Taibshe, I am so pleased that you have dispensed with the obscure dialect you used in yesterday's post. You now have emerged as a plain speaking man and I am partial to plain speaking men even if, as in this instance, the outburst is laden with vitriol and spite and and resentment. Seemingly it does one good to ventilate repressed feelings , getting it all out so to speak. In fact you were so enthusiastic about getting it all out you repeated the eruption a couple of minutes later. I fervently hope that you have found those episodes restorative.
At the outset, I must thank you for psychoanalysing me . It may not be as accurate as you would wish but you took no prisoners which is consistent with your new found zeal for directness of speech.
You suggest that I have been "incontrovertibly exposes". Seriously? Would there be an element of wishful thinking there? However, if you find your conclusion therapeutic I will not quibble except to say that it might be a bit premature to opine on who will be found on the right side of history when the dust settles. It is conceivable that I may have kicked the bucket by then but I know, if history shows that my views were not as poorly based as you claim, you will speak up for me. Come on now, I know you will. There must be a smidgen of goodwill contained deeply within that body of yours.
I will ignore petty, puerile references like "educational credentials", "resident go to person", and other similarly inane comments.
It is reasonable that I return the compliment and endeavour to psychoanalyse you. I do not have competence in that area, one of the few areas in which I do not have expertise!!!. It would seem you have a morbid obsession with me, which is ironic because I have scarcely noticed you. I could describe it as a Veteran complex. I am not sure if such an entity exists in the literature. It appears that what I write acts as a trigger, to use modern terminology, in your psyche. Surely, you are not a snowflake.
What can be done to help you? Is it possible that Control could create a safe space for you? I might be so bold as to suggest that you cease activity on the public Forum for a while and in the meantime you could privately tic tac with Aunascaul. That would be harmless fun. The hope is that after a while you could emerge into the hurly burly arena of the public Forum once more. I admit it can be a menacing place , appropriately reserved for adults.
I do wish you the best and remember, be strong. You will cope.
I must go now. There is a knock on the door. Hope it is not the Stasi again. You see my dog visited me last night.
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Post by inforthebreaks on Oct 16, 2020 13:59:36 GMT
This forum has turned into the united states of america... bat.. s-h--i-t.. crazy..
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Post by Fado on Oct 16, 2020 14:09:37 GMT
Please show respect for the thread and take other subjects elsewhere.
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Post by Control5 on Oct 16, 2020 14:22:29 GMT
Folks
Can all adversaries put their swords back into their scabbards.
I decided to let things run for a while but things are getting out of hand now.
The PM is there and can be used to carry on the argument.
Back to the football.
Control5
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Post by sullyschoice on Oct 16, 2020 14:50:48 GMT
Thank you
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Post by billh on Oct 16, 2020 15:26:12 GMT
In other news, when’s the line out going to be announced?
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Oct 16, 2020 15:55:22 GMT
My attempts at hijacking this thread to talk about, you know, football seems to have failed miserably. Remember the days when all we had to worry about was evil Sky Sports - they were great days. Any idea if the team will be named tonight?
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Post by dano on Oct 16, 2020 15:56:05 GMT
Although I totally understand people that are against the league, or any competitions, going on, I am looking forward to tomorrow. We need it at this stage. Any idea when the team will be announced? Saw Spillane saying that Kerry were the ONLY team that can take the Dubs. Don't know about that. It'll be interesting to see how Dublin fare out without Gavin and the other retirees. There's also the motivational issue of the FIAR already being achieved. Anyway, let's see how we do in Inniskeen first and we'll go from there.
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Post by piggott on Oct 16, 2020 17:40:47 GMT
I think there is too much talk about Dublin. Remember no back door. Cork have only to peak once. We have two games to get our act together. Looking forward to Iniskeen,
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 19:17:48 GMT
Plenty to consider here
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Post by billh on Oct 16, 2020 19:26:51 GMT
No Geaney? Stephen O’Brien? Gavin Crowley? Spillanes? Some bench!
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Post by tpo on Oct 16, 2020 19:30:55 GMT
Heavy pitches, may not suit some players, but a very strong panel
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Post by kerry2017 on Oct 16, 2020 19:34:48 GMT
Few players could get found out at this level
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Post by john4 on Oct 16, 2020 19:54:21 GMT
Anyone paying attention to Peter Keane's team announcements will know that this lineup will not start, and that's fair enough I suppose, mind games and all that but I hope Ronan Buckley and Tony Brosnan actually do start, as using their names to make up a dummy lineup and starting someone else, at this point in their career, just isn't right.
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Post by veteran on Oct 16, 2020 20:03:40 GMT
Any. news of the subs?
Dummy team? I can never understand the logic of that approach if indeed it is so in this instance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 20:08:33 GMT
The subs are never named until throw in and there are often a couple of changes.
Regardless, the team that starts will be close to the championship team I believe. We have knockout championship football in less than a month. The team needs to gel and gel quickly. I don’t think Keane will be experimenting that much.
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Post by peanuts on Oct 16, 2020 20:44:49 GMT
Few players could get found out at this level Only one hasn’t played championship for Kerry so not sure what that’s supposed to mean.
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 16, 2020 21:36:57 GMT
FRI, 16 OCT, 2020 - 21:01 JOHN FOGARTY
At the start of the pandemic, a spinning bike was sent to the homes of each of the Kerry players so that they could maintain and improve their conditioning. Through Zoom, classes took place with head of athletic performance Jason McGahan supervising and their conditioning remained constant throughout the year.
The work that had been done was not going to be lost just because they couldn’t meet up. Conditioning had been an issue for some players in last year’s Championship, not because of the programmes they were doing but their age.
They were young and cramp was a common issue for a number of them towards the end of matches.
The same three players - Adrian Spillane, Brian Ó Beaglaioch and Gavin Crowley - were substituted in both All-Ireland final games. They wouldn’t exactly be spring chickens but they had run themselves into the ground.
When it was confirmed in June that not only would the Championship be knock-out but it wouldn’t resume until October the need to be physically ready for the rigours of winter football was underlined, their extra efforts vindicated.
Having their state-of-the-art gym in Currans available to them again this last while will have allowed for a mini pre-season of sorts, topping off what they had done individually.
The change in their physique has been noticed on the street as much as in club games. As Pat Spillane said earlier this week: “The one thing I notice about them and I know lots of the lads around here, there is four from Templenoe, three from Kenmare on the panel, physically these lads have developed and they can match Dublin in that department and they couldn’t last year.”
Adrian Spillane was one of three Kerry players substituted in both the All-Ireland final and the replay. Picture: Piaras Ó Mídheach/Sportsfile Adrian Spillane was one of three Kerry players substituted in both the All-Ireland final and the replay. Picture: Piaras Ó Mídheach/Sportsfile
Appointed in late 2018, McGahan became only the second full-time strength and conditioning coach employed by a county board, the other being Bryan Cullen in Dublin. Kerry, particularly under Éamonn Fitzmaurice, appreciated the need to follow best practice in the area, which was being delivered by their arch rivals.
In an interview with Radio Kerry last January, McGahan outlined just how far Dublin had been ahead but Kerry were cutting the gap.
“Dublin had Martin Kennedy in beforehand. Martin Kennedy then left to go to the IRFU then Bryan Cullen stepped in. Bryan is there now about five years. Martin Kennedy was there eight years. Basically, we have one year done.”
But McGahan added: “We won’t be that far away. These boys, they have definitely bought into it. They’re a great bunch to work with and I’m not just saying that for the seniors; I’m saying that for the U20s, the minors have really bought into it.
“Even looking at their scores from last November compared to this November, they have made serious strides. I would have no doubt that they will definitely look back at last year and say, ‘Right, we’re not too far away.’
And they will build on that and cherish the experience they got last year. Looking at this year, they will definitely be pushing on hard. As Bernard Brogan recalls in his autobiography “The Hill”, Dublin in Pat Gilroy’s time regularly played Seamus McEnaney’s Monaghan in challenge games as a mean of steeling them physically. With McEnaney back in charge of his native county, Kerry arrive in Inniskeen keen to test their brawn.
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Post by mossie on Oct 16, 2020 21:55:09 GMT
Anyone paying attention to Peter Keane's team announcements will know that this lineup will not start, and that's fair enough I suppose, mind games and all that but I hope Ronan Buckley and Tony Brosnan actually do start, as using their names to make up a dummy lineup and starting someone else, at this point in their career, just isn't right. hope both start, see how they go ditto Michael Burns, he is great form for Crokes lately like Brosnan
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Post by homerj on Oct 16, 2020 22:23:41 GMT
is this game on tv tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 22:25:48 GMT
is this game on tv tomorrow? You can stream on gaa go
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Post by Mickmack on Oct 16, 2020 22:31:39 GMT
FRI, 16 OCT, 2020 - 21:01 JOHN FOGARTY As Bernard Brogan recalls in his autobiography “The Hill”, Dublin in Pat Gilroy’s time regularly played Seamus McEnaney’s Monaghan in challenge games as a mean of steeling them physically. With McEnaney back in charge of his native county, Kerry arrive in Inniskeen keen to test their brawn. MORE IN THIS SECTION Spose Joe got a lift up and back in the Monaghan bus
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Post by homerj on Oct 16, 2020 23:09:03 GMT
is this game on tv tomorrow? You can stream on gaa go never used it as generally if a Kerry game isnt on tv, im at it! but i guess as good a time as any. is the quality decent?
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