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Post by Galway breeze on Mar 1, 2020 9:37:48 GMT
Not bad here this morning should be a cracker. On a different note there is a health warning by the HSE on a uncontrolled outbreak of Mumps in UCC, Cork and Kerry regions. Players congregating in large number in centres and clubs should be advised about MMR and staying healthy. We also have a first case of Coronavirus in the east. Stay safe people!
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Post by southward on Mar 1, 2020 9:50:20 GMT
Fellas criticising Kerry, saying we're not going well, could be on zero points and so on, but what about Dublin? Not only lost to Tyrone but should also have been beaten by both Donegal and Monaghan - saved by a jammy gifted goal in one and by Fergietime in the other. Their best performance was probably against Kerry. Might well have been in danger of relegation at this stage.
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Post by bowie on Mar 1, 2020 10:05:30 GMT
Fellas criticising Kerry, saying we're not going well, could be on zero points and so on, but what about Dublin? Not only lost to Tyrone but should also have been beaten by both Donegal and Monaghan - saved by a jammy gifted goal in one and by Fergietime in the other. Their best performance was probably against Kerry. Might well have been in danger of relegation at this stage. Ah now come on....Kerry benefited from Fergietime too v Dublin. What's good for the goose!!!
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Post by southward on Mar 1, 2020 10:42:12 GMT
Fellas criticising Kerry, saying we're not going well, could be on zero points and so on, but what about Dublin? Not only lost to Tyrone but should also have been beaten by both Donegal and Monaghan - saved by a jammy gifted goal in one and by Fergietime in the other. Their best performance was probably against Kerry. Might well have been in danger of relegation at this stage. Ah now come on....Kerry benefited from Fergietime too v Dublin. What's good for the goose!!! Well it wasn't good for Donegal but completely not the point anyway. My comment is directed mainly at Kerry supporters in relation to criticism of our performances/results to date compared to the generally positive spin on Dublin's outings.
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Post by oldschool on Mar 1, 2020 12:08:59 GMT
If we could get kickout tactics right (at both ends of the pitch) it would be a major boost to us. How come the Dubs can do it It works for us SOMETIMES. The goalie must have the runners to take the pass. We almost need a separate coach for this tactic. I think enough has been said of our defense. It's great to see different players getting a game Hopefully we'll have a settled panel for Championship. Let's see what happens against Mayo today. Castlebar never an easy pace to get a win.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 12:50:50 GMT
Ah now come on....Kerry benefited from Fergietime too v Dublin. What's good for the goose!!! Well it wasn't good for Donegal but completely not the point anyway. My comment is directed mainly at Kerry supporters in relation to criticism of our performances/results to date compared to the generally positive spin on Dublin's outings. I guess when you have won 5 in a row you get a bit more leeway
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Post by diego on Mar 1, 2020 13:34:29 GMT
Kerry GAA social media accounts seem to have slipped in standards in recent times.
Don't even bother mentioning late changes to the starting team when the game has already got underway. Half way through 1st half today before they tell you Tommy Walsh and Tony Brosnan were on for PG and SOB. Thank god for Radio Kerry on days like this.
Why not announce the full panel as well in the hour before throw-in like most other counties can do.
Going well so far anyway. One of the secreat weapons Tommy Walsh doing well.
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Post by backothehill on Mar 1, 2020 15:12:56 GMT
Good win, tough conditions, Gavin White & Jack Barry very good in the first half. It seemed to be easier to play against the wind than with it. Fierce comeback by Mayo from eight points down to only lose by a point. A bit of self inflicted trouble on our behalf. Good win though.
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Post by pillar on Mar 1, 2020 16:11:58 GMT
Thought the first half was really good,midfield dominant,picking up breaks and maybe the scoreline flattered Mayo .one slight concern would be how slow we moved the ball in the middle third.Youd have thought the second half with the aid of the wind would be a formality.But we got a bit sloppy.Id love to see how many short kickouts we took in 2nd half.We were winning midfield yet went short too often.It played into Mayos hands.Regardless of who's between the sticks well have to address a kick out strategy.Last weekend our midfield was poor but today our middle third was dominant when it was thrown out long.
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Post by backothehill on Mar 1, 2020 16:18:51 GMT
Good win, tough conditions, Gavin White & Jack Barry very good in the first half. It seemed to be easier to play against the wind than with it. Fierce comeback by Mayo from eight points down to only lose by a point. A bit of self inflicted trouble on our behalf. Good win though. It was even nine points we were up 1-8 to 0-2 at one stage.Still with a chance of a league final. Two good stiff tests left with Monaghan & Donegal.
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Post by dano on Mar 1, 2020 17:10:05 GMT
Had to rely on Radio kerry as the gaago didn't have a backup plan for the reschedule. Frustrating to see them blow a 9 Point lead but a good win all the same.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 18:16:47 GMT
Good to escape with the win. We started on fire with Gavin White especially prominent but were well on top all over. Mayos forward play was pathetic at times in the first half and kicked some awful wides. Kerry were over elaborate at times but all in all it was a very good first half.
In the second half, Mayo applied a lot more physical pressure and Kerry were turning over a lot of ball. Aidan o shea started to become a major influence. Kerry’s short kick outs and also the propensity to over play at the back eventually cost us.
Mayo were rampant towards the end but some quality by o brien and geaney saw us over the line
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 1, 2020 19:35:30 GMT
Great to win when it looked like it was going to slip away from us. Not one bit worried about losing such a lead. Mayo are a decent team and they played very well for 30/40 minutes in all of their games this year. When you’re away from home, particularly in places like Castlebar, Enniskeen and Omagh the home crowd is a huge factor. One Mayo got a couple of scores either side of halftime they had a pep in their step and a gift of a goal added to their momentum. Allied to that Kerry were never going to be able to keep that pace up for most of the game. All in all an away win is very satisfactory, we did enough to win. It can’t have been easy given the postponement last night etc. A couple of very sturdy tests await us away to Monaghan and home to Donegal. We are very well placed to take advantage if we are good enough.
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Post by homerj on Mar 1, 2020 22:18:38 GMT
long long day just in the door, 15 hour round trip all in! a win is a win but a shocking collapse in second half considering we were -
9 up at one stage had wind in 2nd half had an extra man for first 10 or so minutes.
but i guess its a good sign to be winning games when playing bad. 1 more win may get us into the final, 2 win guarantees it.
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Post by Chinatown on Mar 1, 2020 22:35:01 GMT
long long day just in the door, 15 hour round trip all in! a win is a win but a shocking collapse in second half considering we were - 9 up at one stage had wind in 2nd half had an extra man for first 10 or so minutes. but i guess its a good sign to be winning games when playing bad. 1 more win may get us into the final, 2 win guarantees it. Yes 2 guarantees but don’t think 1 will.
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Post by homerj on Mar 1, 2020 22:53:35 GMT
long long day just in the door, 15 hour round trip all in! a win is a win but a shocking collapse in second half considering we were - 9 up at one stage had wind in 2nd half had an extra man for first 10 or so minutes. but i guess its a good sign to be winning games when playing bad. 1 more win may get us into the final, 2 win guarantees it. Yes 2 guarantees but don’t think 1 will. so the remaining fixures are - Donegal v Tyrone Galway v Mayo Dublin v Meath Monaghan v Kerry Kerry v Donegal Galway v Dublin Mayo v Tyrone Monaghan v Meath i guess losing to monaghan puts them on 9 and wed lose out on head to head? i think Dublin will end on 8 points. Galway on 10 or 12. Donegal on 8. wed be depending on monaghan not beating Meath then
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Post by Jo90 on Mar 2, 2020 0:26:04 GMT
I think Dublin will beat Meath easily and then beat Galway in a must win game for Dublin. Galway will beat Mayo to also finish on 10 points. So Kerry will need to win both games to end up on 11 points to make the final. Likely opponent will be Dublin unless Tyrone make it a 3 way tie on 10 pts and Galway come out on top on points difference. Although a shock or two will still occur
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Post by homerj on Mar 2, 2020 8:21:40 GMT
i think Galway will beat Dublin.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 2, 2020 8:42:31 GMT
Big result for us yesterday means we can relax as we cant be relegated now. Two more tight games coming up monaghan looked poor enough yesterday. They will be fighting for their lives next day out as they now a win will keep them in div 1 next year. Mayo are goosed really id say galway would love to relegate them and probably will. Think its between ourselves dublin and galway to make the final realistically. Strange from all the talk around we arent playing well but still have it in our own hands to make the final.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 2, 2020 8:52:33 GMT
A win is a win, would have been heading for the bus at HT if Clifford had goaled from the peno and had SOS follow up his goal with a second first half chance. Would also have been heading for the bus with 15 to play only for gifting Mayo their goal. Despite all that Kerry failed to win one breaking or scour ground ball in the second half when Mayo increased their intensity. Mayo were poor in the first half Kerry were poor in the middle third after the break. Great to be in a top two position going into the last two games. Question marks again about the amount of time the ref added after the four minutes. Looked like he gave Mayo every chance to get an equaliser. Added time keeping needs to be reviewed.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 2, 2020 8:56:54 GMT
Great to win when it looked like it was going to slip away from us. Not one bit worried about losing such a lead. Mayo are a decent team and they played very well for 30/40 minutes in all of their games this year. When you’re away from home, particularly in places like Castlebar, Enniskeen and Omagh the home crowd is a huge factor. One Mayo got a couple of scores either side of halftime they had a pep in their step and a gift of a goal added to their momentum. Allied to that Kerry were never going to be able to keep that pace up for most of the game. All in all an away win is very satisfactory, we did enough to win. It can’t have been easy given the postponement last night etc. A couple of very sturdy tests await us away to Monaghan and home to Donegal. We are very well placed to take advantage if we are good enough. Did enough to win - nail on head.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 2, 2020 10:27:14 GMT
Is moran being rested or is he injured? Be good for him and maybe sherwood get a few minutes over the next two games.
How do people think we are doing so far overall? I think for the main it has been positive we must be doing a lot of heavy stamina work in my opinion. On the positive side we have a great attitude last minute equalizer vs dublin last minute win against galway kept our cool to close out mayo game all positives. Also we have seen in the last two first halves a bit of the real Kerry imo, i think we ran out of steam a bit due to tiredness but during the summer i think we would keep going and put mayo to bed a lot easier. Negatives are breaking ball and kickouts we are still too teliant on Moran in the middle and dont win enpugh breaks still not convinced we have found who will be joining the 2 kenmare lads in the hf line.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 2, 2020 12:01:40 GMT
Is moran being rested or is he injured? Be good for him and maybe sherwood get a few minutes over the next two games. How do people think we are doing so far overall? I think for the main it has been positive we must be doing a lot of heavy stamina work in my opinion. On the positive side we have a great attitude last minute equalizer vs dublin last minute win against galway kept our cool to close out mayo game all positives. Also we have seen in the last two first halves a bit of the real Kerry imo, i think we ran out of steam a bit due to tiredness but during the summer i think we would keep going and put mayo to bed a lot easier. Negatives are breaking ball and kickouts we are still too teliant on Moran in the middle and dont win enpugh breaks still not convinced we have found who will be joining the 2 kenmare lads in the hf line. Moran had a procedure on his knee prior to Christmas and is back in training with the squad for past few weeks - Sherwood also training.
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Post by buck02 on Mar 2, 2020 12:46:33 GMT
Yesterday was another example of what Kerry have been like in all of their league games this year, possibly with the exception of the Dublin game.
For short bursts they play some brilliant football. The tendency to then have 10 minute periods of being totally out-played rears it's head.
First half yesterday all our backs were on top of their men. Jack Barry was dominating the middle. Tom Parsons was doing his best to do a bully boy job on Diarmuid O Connor and was very lucky not to get black carded. Up front there was some brilliant play between Tommy Walsh, Clifford and Seanie while Dara Moynihan and Tony Brosnan worked very hard.
A combination of tired legs, complacency Mayo uping the ante turned the 2nd half into a game we could have ended up somehow not winning.
I suppose its hard to do any decent football work at training in this weather and Kerry seems to be doing some 'heavy lifting'. So all in all 7 points from 10 is a great return. Could easily be 2 points so that shows there is a good level of resilience built up too.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 2, 2020 13:17:47 GMT
Yesterday was another example of what Kerry have been like in all of their league games this year, possibly with the exception of the Dublin game. For short bursts they play some brilliant football. The tendency to then have 10 minute periods of being totally out-played rears it's head. First half yesterday all our backs were on top of their men. Jack Barry was dominating the middle. Tom Parsons was doing his best to do a bully boy job on Diarmuid O Connor and was very lucky not to get black carded. Up front there was some brilliant play between Tommy Walsh, Clifford and Seanie while Dara Moynihan and Tony Brosnan worked very hard. A combination of tired legs, complacency Mayo uping the ante turned the 2nd half into a game we could have ended up somehow not winning. I suppose its hard to do any decent football work at training in this weather and Kerry seems to be doing some 'heavy lifting'. So all in all 7 points from 10 is a great return. Could easily be 2 points so that shows there is a good level of resilience built up too. A lot of teams are like that tbf we could have lost/won/drew against any of the teams we have played thus far except meath. Dublin couldve lost all their home games so far easily enough.their fitness got them there in the end that's where we have to get to. We have shown plenty of resiliance so far and thst for me is as important as anything else. Tyrone have been lucky this league beating dublin and kerry at home in gamrs that probably shouldn't have been played the weather was man of the match in both games for tyrone.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 2, 2020 14:01:57 GMT
Yes 2 guarantees but don’t think 1 will. so the remaining fixures are - Donegal v Tyrone Galway v Mayo Dublin v Meath Monaghan v Kerry Kerry v Donegal Galway v Dublin Mayo v Tyrone Monaghan v Meath i guess losing to monaghan puts them on 9 and wed lose out on head to head? i think Dublin will end on 8 points. Galway on 10 or 12. Donegal on 8. wed be depending on monaghan not beating Meath then I thought I heard on the sports news last night that Galway only needed one point to guarantee a final place but that's obviously wrong as Dublin, Kerry and Tyron can all finish ahead of them. Am I missing something?
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Post by veteran on Mar 2, 2020 16:22:53 GMT
Thanks to all the lads who travelled and each of their snippets help to give an overall picture of the game.
In spite of the apparent second half collapse one has to conclude that this victory has to be applauded. When a team gets a run on you , playing away from home, the home supporters can be a sixteenth man and , as Misteallaigh said, this can be very difficult to resist. Therefore it was a significant achievement to come away with the two precious points. It was a shame that it was deferred as it would it have been very informative to see the live TV showing. That is the price of old age , preventing a lot of old timers traveling to far away places in the winter!
Looking at the condition of some of the pitches I think it is prudent on the part of management not to risk playing the injury prone JOD at present.
Two weeks to go to the next match and the hope is that the weather will be more clement then.
P.S. I wonder if somebody could post up the substitutes bench from yesterday. What is the logic of not publishing these when the team is being announced?
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Post by Dingo86 on Mar 2, 2020 16:40:36 GMT
Thanks to all the lads who travelled and each of their snippets help to give an overall picture of the game. In spite of the apparent second half collapse one has to conclude that this victory has to be applauded. When a team gets a run on you , playing away from home, the home supporters can be a sixteenth man and , as Misteallaigh said, this can be very difficult to resist. Therefore it was a significant achievement to come away with the two precious points. It was a shame that it was deferred as it would it have been very informative to see the live TV showing. That is the price of old age , preventing a lot of old timers traveling to far away places in the winter! Looking at the condition of some of the pitches I think it is prudent on the part of management not to risk playing the injury prone JOD at present. Two weeks to go to the next match and the hope is that the weather will be more clement then. P.S. I wonder if somebody could post up the substitutes bench from yesterday. What is the logic of not publishing these when the team is being announced? 16. Brian Kelly 17. Jason Foley 18. David Shaw 19. Liam Kearney 20. Gavin Crowley 12. Stephen O’Brien 22. Killian Spillane 23. Gavin O’Brien 24. Michael Potts 15. Paul Geaney 26. Pa Kilkenny
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Post by crokes86 on Mar 2, 2020 17:36:59 GMT
Mayo is a hard place to get a win so well done on that aspect. The second half performance though will have to be looked at. Physically we were blown away and it seems to be a trait . Physically we’ve been thrown around this year Hopefully that can change
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Post by misteallaigh abú on Mar 2, 2020 17:41:48 GMT
As a matter of interest, does anyone know how many players Peter Keane has used so far in the league?
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