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Post by jackiel on Feb 17, 2020 14:10:25 GMT
No thread for this one yet, do I sense complacency creeping in here. Realistically this should be an easy win and a chance to give some of the younger lads more of a run. Any thoughts.
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Post by egbabroad on Feb 17, 2020 14:32:36 GMT
Important match, need to get the Tyrone game out of our system. I think Meath will go down, so there is one place for another team and we need to ensure that we do not get caught up in a relegation battle
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Post by ballhopper34 on Feb 17, 2020 18:28:30 GMT
Have said from very early that this game is a must win...all the other Div 1 teams will have the same mindset. Getting to 5 points is vital.
Mayo play Monagahan (both on 3 points like us) in Clones on Sunday as well..the loser there could be in trouble...and we have both those on the road in the next two games after Meath. Donegal, also on 3 points, are in Croke Park on Saturday.
Relegation could be a right battle...quite possible that our final game in Killarney v Donegal could see the winner making the final and the loser in real relegation trouble. We need two points from the Mayo and Monaghan road games, preferably beating the loser of the Mayo/Monaghan game.
A Mayo/Monaghan draw will keep the relegation battle crowded.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 18, 2020 9:46:28 GMT
This is on the fixture list for 1pm throw in. Is this a mistake? I've never heard of a 1pm start for a game that isn't a double header.
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Post by clarinman on Feb 18, 2020 10:19:24 GMT
This is on the fixture list for 1pm throw in. Is this a mistake? I've never heard of a 1pm start for a game that isn't a double header. Probably due to England Ireland rugby match at 3.
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Post by buck02 on Feb 18, 2020 13:36:00 GMT
This is on the fixture list for 1pm throw in. Is this a mistake? I've never heard of a 1pm start for a game that isn't a double header. Probably due to England Ireland rugby match at 3. Lucky the rugby wasn't on at 2 o clock so or they would have us starting the game at midday. The other two Division 1 games are on at 2pm.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 18, 2020 13:51:03 GMT
This is on the fixture list for 1pm throw in. Is this a mistake? I've never heard of a 1pm start for a game that isn't a double header. Isnt it a double header with Kerry Ladies playing Tyrone at...wait for it...11am. With nobody there except their parents.
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Post by royalkerryfan on Feb 18, 2020 17:36:48 GMT
Meath are very bad at the minute. No goalkeeper, No standout forward. Kerry will win this comfortably.
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Post by dano on Feb 19, 2020 1:59:28 GMT
We will see! Who was that pony tailed forward or center forward for Meath that caught the Kerry backs out a few times last year? Kerry are a developing side and anything could happen here.
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 19, 2020 5:28:55 GMT
We will see! Who was that pony tailed forward or center forward for Meath that caught the Kerry backs out a few times last year? Kerry are a developing side and anything could happen here. Cillian O'Sullivan, has potential but needs to start kicking on a bit.Tough though being in that Meath forward line.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 19, 2020 9:55:21 GMT
With heavy rain forecast between now and Sunday, just hope that the pitch stands up with two colleges finals down for decision on Sat plus the ladies game on Sunday morning.
Kerry are doing a lot of the " heavy lifting" at the moment so am expecting a tough game on Sunday - no new injury worries with possibly Shane Enright returning to the match day panel after his absence vs Tyrone - believe Jameso will again miss out due to injury but some of the longer term absentees such as Paudie Clifford & Jack Sherwood are back on the pitch but it remains to be seen when either will be fit to make a squad.
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Post by backothehill on Feb 19, 2020 10:53:55 GMT
Some of the younger Meath lads ,who have been involved with their senior panel; are playing a Leinster Under 20 semi final against Dublin at Parnell park on saturday.
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Post by crokes86 on Feb 19, 2020 11:19:44 GMT
This is a must win . No excuses. Meath are poor but we are playing poor so I’m not that confident. A draw would be a bad result. We don’t win this we’re going down. Forwards have to step up and start scoring. That’s what they’re in there for. Too much on Cliffords shoulders already.
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Post by givehimaball on Feb 19, 2020 20:57:24 GMT
This is a must win . No excuses. Meath are poor but we are playing poor so I’m not that confident. A draw would be a bad result. We don’t win this we’re going down. Forwards have to step up and start scoring.That’s what they’re in there for. Too much on Cliffords shoulders already. Kerry have scored 2-47 (53 points total) in the 3 league games so far - an average of 17.666 points per game. Out of the 32 teams in the league, only Dublin and Cork have scored more. Dublin have scored 3-45 (54 points total) and Cork have scored 1-51 (54 points total) In terms of the defence Kerry have conceded 3-44 (53 points total) which is the highest total conceded out of the 32 teams in the league. Between these figures and what I've seen with my own eyes, I don't hink its the forwards who need to step up. Individually and as a unit the defence has been woeful so far in the league. Even though Meath are struggling at the moment, the way Kerry have performed so far would lead me to believe it's short odds that Kerry will make hard work of picking up the two points. Worth remembering that Meath have one foot through the doorway of the last chance saloon in terms of Division 1 survival.
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Post by Galway breeze on Feb 21, 2020 15:33:27 GMT
Is Jame o D out for the rest of the league?
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Post by oldschool on Feb 21, 2020 17:44:14 GMT
Will James o D ever get a clear injury-free run.? It must be frustrating for him. Such a talented player
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Post by oldschool on Feb 21, 2020 17:54:34 GMT
I hope we don't get complacent about this Meath game. Still, I'm epecting a pretty good win.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on Feb 21, 2020 21:17:31 GMT
Is Jame o D out for the rest of the league? No he'll be available next week against Mayo.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 21, 2020 21:30:20 GMT
Team named. Graham and Tom O Sullivan in the corners.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 21, 2020 22:44:37 GMT
This must surely be the least talked about match on this forum in years.
Big performance would be nice.
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Post by john4 on Feb 22, 2020 0:06:26 GMT
We should have plenty enough in our forwards for Meath, but where I'd like to see a major improvement is in the backs. Very good post above outlining our defensive weaknesses. I can't recall one decent hit by one of our lads on a Dublin, Galway or Tyrone fella, no block down, nothing inspiring whatsoever. I know it's hard to shine playing in the backs, but the leaking big scores is hard to take.
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Post by greengold35 on Feb 22, 2020 8:52:23 GMT
We should have plenty enough in our forwards for Meath, but where I'd like to see a major improvement is in the backs. Very good post above outlining our defensive weaknesses. I can't recall one decent hit by one of our lads on a Dublin, Galway or Tyrone fella, no block down, nothing inspiring whatsoever. I know it's hard to shine playing in the backs, but the leaking big scores is hard to take. I fully agree with you on that but being a defender at the minute is almost a thankless job - the slightest contact with an opposing forward is now being given as a free and could incur a black/yellow card - just look at Graham O'Sullivan vs Dublin, seemed to be contesting a ball with his opponent, opponent goes down, black card, Dublin point from a free; Shane Enright, same game, hardly touches Kilkenny, KK goes sprawling, free in plus a yellow card - defenders are standing off their men, almost afraid to make contact - was worse in the Tyrone game. I think the arrival of Graham O'Sullivan plus hopefully the return of a fit again Peter Crowley will make us tougher in defence and improve us at the back - time will tell!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 9:49:58 GMT
We should have plenty enough in our forwards for Meath, but where I'd like to see a major improvement is in the backs. Very good post above outlining our defensive weaknesses. I can't recall one decent hit by one of our lads on a Dublin, Galway or Tyrone fella, no block down, nothing inspiring whatsoever. I know it's hard to shine playing in the backs, but the leaking big scores is hard to take. I fully agree with you on that but being a defender at the minute is almost a thankless job - the slightest contact with an opposing forward is now being given as a free and could incur a black/yellow card - just look at Graham O'Sullivan vs Dublin, seemed to be contesting a ball with his opponent, opponent goes down, black card, Dublin point from a free; Shane Enright, same game, hardly touches Kilkenny, KK goes sprawling, free in plus a yellow card - defenders are standing off their men, almost afraid to make contact - was worse in the Tyrone game. I think the arrival of Graham O'Sullivan plus hopefully the return of a fit again Peter Crowley will make us tougher in defence and improve us at the back - time will tell! The issue with our backs is that they do not seem to have a defenders instinct and know where the danger is. Murchans goal in the final last year was a good example. Similarly against Galway, they did not enough to stop those goal chances. It is more about anticipating danger and dealing with it via the necessary means than just hitting a lad with a big shoulder which the crowd will love and will be saying for the next 5 years that so and so should play no 6
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Post by buck02 on Feb 22, 2020 11:02:22 GMT
I was surpsied when I saw the post saying we had the worst defensive record across all 4 divisions so when I saw this morning in the paper that Leitrim had conceded 5-40 in Division 3 I was very relieved!
When PK got the job his big problem was sorting out the keeper situation, the full back line, finding a midfield partner for Moran and getting the balance of the half forward line right.
The keeper and the half forward line issues seem to have been addressed as best we can. Jack Barry should push on more this year.
But I don't see us developing some mean spirited, dogged backs like Mayo and Dublin have and this will be our achilles heel I fear.
Also with such a forward line we really should be rattling the net more.
Now I don't expect Kerry to be able to develop their attacking game plan in the current conditions they are training and playing in but these conditions are when the backs really should be shining.
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Post by peanuts on Feb 22, 2020 12:00:29 GMT
I fully agree with you on that but being a defender at the minute is almost a thankless job - the slightest contact with an opposing forward is now being given as a free and could incur a black/yellow card - just look at Graham O'Sullivan vs Dublin, seemed to be contesting a ball with his opponent, opponent goes down, black card, Dublin point from a free; Shane Enright, same game, hardly touches Kilkenny, KK goes sprawling, free in plus a yellow card - defenders are standing off their men, almost afraid to make contact - was worse in the Tyrone game. I think the arrival of Graham O'Sullivan plus hopefully the return of a fit again Peter Crowley will make us tougher in defence and improve us at the back - time will tell! The issue with our backs is that they do not seem to have a defenders instinct and know where the danger is. Murchans goal in the final last year was a good example. Similarly against Galway, they did not enough to stop those goal chances. It is more about anticipating danger and dealing with it via the necessary means than just hitting a lad with a big shoulder which the crowd will love and will be saying for the next 5 years that so and so should play no 6 A lot of the goals we concede are scored by defenders, the 2 in the AI final last year and one of the Galway goals in the league this year. Forwards have to take a share of the blame.
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Post by brucewayne on Feb 22, 2020 12:01:39 GMT
I was surpsied when I saw the post saying we had the worst defensive record across all 4 divisions so when I saw this morning in the paper that Leitrim had conceded 5-40 in Division 3 I was very relieved! When PK got the job his big problem was sorting out the keeper situation, the full back line, finding a midfield partner for Moran and getting the balance of the half forward line right. The keeper and the half forward line issues seem to have been addressed as best we can. Jack Barry should push on more this year. But I don't see us developing some mean spirited, dogged backs like Mayo and Dublin have and this will be our achilles heel I fear. Also with such a forward line we really should be rattling the net more. Now I don't expect Kerry to be able to develop their attacking game plan in the current conditions they are training and playing in but these conditions are when the backs really should be shining.
Whatever about the defensive setup, during the championship last year a ton of opportunities were left behind.
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Post by brigid on Feb 22, 2020 12:43:58 GMT
I am not impressed with the Kerry half back line. If the half back line are on top of their game, then the forwards will always look well but when in trouble the whole team suffers.
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Post by oldschool on Feb 22, 2020 14:14:27 GMT
I think our backs are good individually but weak as a unit.. Coaching? ? I also think Tom Sullivan is better on half back line
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Post by Galway breeze on Feb 22, 2020 20:50:11 GMT
Dublin showed their class up here coming from four points down to win this one with a second string team. Donegal played out of the skin but just had not enough class. Even Dublins newbies looked impressive.
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Post by john4 on Feb 22, 2020 21:07:55 GMT
Dublin showed their class up here coming from four points down to win this one with a second string team. Donegal played out of the skin but just had not enough class. Even Dublins newbies looked impressive. a one point game, time nearly up, and they target Donegal's main man, and get him sent off. I get your point, they played very very good to come back and get the win. But there is no class in that. That's not for me.
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