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Post by Galway breeze on Feb 11, 2020 20:54:22 GMT
Tyrone will be a strong outfit come championship with some very good players returning home to play. Galway have also players to come in. It’s going to be a cracking summer of football.
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Post by dano on Feb 11, 2020 22:33:10 GMT
I agree there Retired. I think Kerry's emergence last fall as real contenders to Dublin has emboldened the rest of the leading pack, Especially Tyrone and Galway. Having said that,Kerry only barely made it last year and could have been caught by Tyrone in the Semi. McShane made hay that day and We were lucky that our forwards made up for the deficiencies at the back. If Kerry can learn to tighten up at the back we have the beating of all of them. Looking forward to the year ahead.
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Post by kerrygold on Feb 12, 2020 8:44:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 9:51:26 GMT
Why was Peter Harte sent off? kerry backs try to do same things all the time we lost get over it all teams play like this ref is human name a person who never made one? What?
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Post by cavejack on Feb 12, 2020 14:38:19 GMT
I think the missing word is mistake and we all make them .Tyrone won we lost 🤣on to next game now up the kingdom 🙏
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Post by Galway breeze on Feb 12, 2020 19:25:50 GMT
Just looked back on Tyrone game, god defensively kerry were a shambles. Kerry need to look at coaching in this area very soon and don’t end up similar to Mayo for a number of years.
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Post by colinsworth1 on Feb 12, 2020 23:11:53 GMT
The Clifford incident I thought was a pre orchestrated decision to create mayhem . Dragging down wrestler style holding Pinning a player down all that is part of the late game Mayhem that many team s adopt when they are desperate to hold on to a narrow lead . Probably going on for years but Dublin jumped 4 mayo receivers In the biggest stage at Croke Park 3 or 4 years ago and it worked Only one players got a black card . The sanction does not deter this type of behavior in fact at Edendork that lawless wreckless behavior resulted in a net gain for Tyrone . Again it pays to do it if win at all costs is your objective. Nobody is talking about the injustice to Jack Barry what a loss he was do you think he looked to be wrestling around with a game on the line ! That was another. Rotten ploy if it was bad for David Clifford it was equally bad for Jack Barry . I honestly though right there that the ref was going to abandon the game it was that toxic at that point . I’ve been saying and pleading that our officials will stop burying their head in the sand and get this Craziness under control have the lines men and the umpires micked up and put the onus on them that if they see something say something and they are complicit by their inaction. It’s one of the best games in the world let run it and ref it so that players can get on with the fun of playing football . Mark o Connor is down under days like last Sunday make you understand why he made a wise decision .
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Post by mitchelsontour on Feb 13, 2020 1:48:31 GMT
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Post by The16thMan on Feb 13, 2020 2:08:35 GMT
They do have a point, now how matter how doubtful it is there is a chance David could have been involved before the clip began. That being said I met a man in An Poitín Stil on the way down, a fellow Kerry supporter and he was telling me he was watching from behind that goal and was adamant David was just as guilty and deserved the yellow. I didn't see the start of it myself from where I was so I'm not so sure.
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Post by OnTheForty on Feb 13, 2020 11:32:29 GMT
A goalkeeper who can kick the ball out 30 or 40 yards equally as accurate with both left and right foot is invaluable at this level. In the 2 or 3 seconds needed for Shane Ryan to adjust his body position in the run up, the other team have moved in unison to the correct side of the field. Really? A keeper kicking the ball off the ground with either foot? Not even Cluxton can do this (but he can kick to the right and left side with the same run-up). I have never seen a GK doing this at any level. In fact the only outfield players I can remember able to kick frees with left and right foot are Maurice Fitzgerald and Shane Walsh. I'm sure there are others, but if a keeper was this two footed, he would be playing corner forward;)
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 13, 2020 11:48:41 GMT
They do have a point, now how matter how doubtful it is there is a chance David could have been involved before the clip began. That being said I met a man in An Poitín Stil on the way down, a fellow Kerry supporter and he was telling me he was watching from behind that goal and was adamant David was just as guilty and deserved the yellow. I didn't see the start of it myself from where I was so I'm not so sure. But by speculating without anything to back it up - you are leaving yourself open to all kind of 'what ifs' and 'maybes' We didnt see or hear what Mickey Harte said to the guy coming on - so I'm going to speculate that he brought on said player with one goal and that was to get Clifford sent off. I have no evidence that he did but in line with the above articles, I have no evidence that he didnt. Then you move to motive and Micley had much more motive to do so than David had to be involved in some wrestling match with a no mark sub while Mickey's teams also have plenty of previous in this
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 13, 2020 12:01:14 GMT
I have said it here before. David Clifford gets involved in too much Argy Bargy with opponents. I said at halftime that he was in danger of going off as he was on a yellow. He needs to cool the jets.
I didnt see any lead up to the incident on Sunday so cant say if he did anything to deserve a yellow. But David is no angel when it comes to the rough and tumble. I know he comes in for a lot of attention but I have seen him react far too often. We need him on the field.
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 13, 2020 12:03:55 GMT
I have said it here before. David Clifford gets involved in too much Argy Bargy with opponents. I said at halftime that he was in danger of going off as he was on a yellow. He needs to cool the jets. I didnt see any lead up to the incident on Sunday so cant say if he did anything to deserve a yellow. But David is no angel when it comes to the rough and tumble. I know he comes in for a lot of attention but I have seen him react far too often. We need him on the field. Cool the jets? Stand behind a goal next time and see all the hassle that he gets - its not down to him to cool the jets if he is being hit off the ball for 35 mins a half. Its up to the fat lads in the white coats to pull their finger out, protect the players and stop thinking about what they are going to get off the carvery menu from later
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Post by john4 on Feb 13, 2020 12:14:43 GMT
A goalkeeper who can kick the ball out 30 or 40 yards equally as accurate with both left and right foot is invaluable at this level. In the 2 or 3 seconds needed for Shane Ryan to adjust his body position in the run up, the other team have moved in unison to the correct side of the field. Really? A keeper kicking the ball off the ground with either foot? Not even Cluxton can do this (but he can kick to the right and left side with the same run-up). I have never seen a GK doing this at any level. In fact the only outfield players I can remember able to kick frees with left and right foot are Maurice Fitzgerald and Shane Walsh. I'm sure there are others, but if a keeper was this two footed, he would be playing corner forward;) So that's it so. Because it hasn't been done before, it can't be done. Invention would never happen were it not for the desire for something better. Why can't Shane Ryan practice kicking off the ground with his left as well as his right foot. There's a massive advantage to be gained from this in terms of keeping the opposition guessing which way the ball is going, as things stand now, the kockouts of any distance are easy enough to read. By the way, not withstanding the fact that he's not Maurice Fitz, Shane Ryan does play corner forward.
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Post by Galway breeze on Feb 13, 2020 17:08:13 GMT
I’m in agreement with sullychoice here. I was behind the goals and saw what was happening. There is a lot of biased folks here, all I can say is one is as bad as the other. But the Tyrone player did not verbally abuse the umpires he walk of quite. If his remarks to the umpires goes in ref report he could face sanctions.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 13, 2020 17:58:05 GMT
I have said it here before. David Clifford gets involved in too much Argy Bargy with opponents. I said at halftime that he was in danger of going off as he was on a yellow. He needs to cool the jets. I didnt see any lead up to the incident on Sunday so cant say if he did anything to deserve a yellow. But David is no angel when it comes to the rough and tumble. I know he comes in for a lot of attention but I have seen him react far too often. We need him on the field. Cool the jets? Stand behind a goal next time and see all the hassle that he gets - its not down to him to cool the jets if he is being hit off the ball for 35 mins a half. Its up to the fat lads in the white coats to pull their finger out, protect the players and stop thinking about what they are going to get off the carvery menu from later It certainly is up to the officials to protect him but lets not be blind to the fact that David is also well able to throw himself around. He is no shrinking violet. I have seen him many times in the last couple of years in Kerry and club/county championship matches. Its one aspect of his game I do not like. Everything else is flawless. But he needs to stay on the pitch. So, yes, the jets need to stay cool.
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Post by mitchelsontour on Feb 13, 2020 19:49:12 GMT
David is well able to protect himself but did he force the Tyrone player to put him in a head lock and be dragged to the ground?
I suppose he ripped the jersey after the Dublin game as well.
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Post by piggott on Feb 13, 2020 21:30:51 GMT
I have said it here before. David Clifford gets involved in too much Argy Bargy with opponents. I said at halftime that he was in danger of going off as he was on a yellow. He needs to cool the jets. I didnt see any lead up to the incident on Sunday so cant say if he did anything to deserve a yellow. But David is no angel when it comes to the rough and tumble. I know he comes in for a lot of attention but I have seen him react far too often. We need him on the field. The trouble with this Kerry team, is there are not enough guys with David's competiveness and will to win.
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Post by sullyschoice on Feb 14, 2020 0:22:57 GMT
David is well able to protect himself but did he force the Tyrone player to put him in a head lock and be dragged to the ground? I suppose he ripped the jersey after the Dublin game as well. You are missing the point. You can't see what happens before David and his friend stumble into the view of the camera. The whole Jersey thing in the Dublin game was on the Telly. I have no problem with fellas being able to look after themselves and putting it about but I am not blind to the fact that if you give it you have to accept that you have to take it. And we cant see what happened at the start of the incident.
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Post by mitchelsontour on Feb 14, 2020 2:11:33 GMT
David is well able to protect himself but did he force the Tyrone player to put him in a head lock and be dragged to the ground? I suppose he ripped the jersey after the Dublin game as well. You are missing the point. You can't see what happens before David and his friend stumble into the view of the camera. The whole Jersey thing in the Dublin game was on the Telly. I have no problem with fellas being able to look after themselves and putting it about but I am not blind to the fact that if you give it you have to accept that you have to take it. And we cant see what happened at the start of the incident. I am pretty sure that if David started it there were plenty of people at the game with phones who would have posted it up fairly fast.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 6, 2020 21:21:06 GMT
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