County and All Ireland Club- Non-Kerry

[Mickmack]

Jan 17, 2020 12:18:51 GMT glengael said:

I wonder how the Finals will go this weekend and how the day will pan out in terms of attendances etc, what with the new date. It would be a real fairytale for Kilcoo to triumph but stranger things have happened. The hurling will be some clash indeed with the edge of recent inter-county rivalry also.

I thing its great that the finals are on now.


Really looking forward to the hurling and watching Brendan Mahers super human efforts for his club. Ballyhale have too many scoring options it would appear.

The football could be one sided if Kilcoo dont get a good start. I hope they do.

Great day for the small communities. Corofin of course draw from a huge area.

[Donegalshannonranger]

Where did you get it that Corofin draw from a large area, I just checked the gaafanzone twitter page (a brilliant resource with all club parishes marked in each county). You would be surprised how small it is. It is also surrounded by a number of big clubs in Galway who would have their own draw so they would get nothing from outside their area. Surrounded by clubs like Monivea/Abbey, Tuam Stars, Caherlistrane, Annaghdown and Killerinin also Senior Hurling clubs like Turloughmore and Abbeyknockmoy. They do have a strong connection with Sylane hurling club but Sylane also have players from Kilconly and Caherlistrane.

You should check the map out.

[clarinman]

Jan 18, 2020 17:44:16 GMT Donegalshannonranger said:

Where did you get it that Corofin draw from a large area, I just checked the gaafanzone twitter page (a brilliant resource with all club parishes marked in each county). You would be surprised how small it is. It is also surrounded by a number of big clubs in Galway who would have their own draw so they would get nothing from outside their area. Surrounded by clubs like Monivea/Abbey, Tuam Stars, Caherlistrane, Annaghdown and Killerinin also Senior Hurling clubs like Turloughmore and Abbeyknockmoy. They do have a strong connection with Sylane hurling club but Sylane also have players from Kilconly and Caherlistrane.

You should check the map out.

Corofin GAA club is made up of 2 parishes - Corofin and Belclare. They were originally 2 clubs and combined in the 1920s. They played a match to decide the name of the combined team.

[Annascaultilidie]

Jan 18, 2020 17:44:16 GMT Donegalshannonranger said:

Where did you get it that Corofin draw from a large area, I just checked the gaafanzone twitter page (a brilliant resource with all club parishes marked in each county). You would be surprised how small it is. It is also surrounded by a number of big clubs in Galway who would have their own draw so they would get nothing from outside their area. Surrounded by clubs like Monivea/Abbey, Tuam Stars, Caherlistrane, Annaghdown and Killerinin also Senior Hurling clubs like Turloughmore and Abbeyknockmoy. They do have a strong connection with Sylane hurling club but Sylane also have players from Kilconly and Caherlistrane.

You should check the map out.

Corofin players themselves describe the catchment area as large even if the village is small.

[Donegalshannonranger]

I've driven too many times to remember through Galway on the way to North Kerry. When you leave Tuam you cross a bridge at Claretuam, Corofin begins here, go a mile out the road you see a sign for Belclare village go out here another two miles you are in Caherlistrane GAA, if you continued on the N17 to Claregalway after three miles you see the sign for Corofin village. I ventured down to find one shop, one church and a football pitch with a small stand and no club house with two or three small housing developments before the village. Apparently if you go through the village four miles you are in Killerin GAA and Padraig Joyce county. If you continue on the N17 three miles past the Corofin turn off you are in Annaghdown GAA. It is not big, but they are doing something right, Tralee is massive with a big population but they wouldn't match them or in my home county of Donegal St Eunans have a pick of 15k and wouldn't lace their boots.

[Ballyfireside]

Jan 18, 2020 20:44:03 GMT Donegalshannonranger said:

I've driven too many times to remember through Galway on the way to North Kerry. When you leave Tuam you cross a bridge at Claretuam, Corofin begins here, go a mile out the road you see a sign for Belclare village go out here another two miles you are in Caherlistrane GAA, if you continued on the N17 to Claregalway after three miles you see the sign for Corofin village. I ventured down to find one shop, one church and a football pitch with a small stand and no club house with two or three small housing developments before the village. Apparently if you go through the village four miles you are in Killerin GAA and Padraig Joyce county. If you continue on the N17 three miles past the Corofin turn off you are in Annaghdown GAA. It is not big, but they are doing something right, Tralee is massive with a big population but they wouldn't match them or in my home county of Donegal St Eunans have a pick of 15k and wouldn't lace their boots.

Hello my fellow Donegal Kingdomer, maybe I should be Kerryswillyrover? Have you an address of that specific fanzone page with club maps?

Bit of a decision next Sat - Ballybofey or Croker?

Be jazus but ya better watch what you say re St Eunans or you'll get us all into trouble, they are a strong club with good enough representation on the current county panel, though it is early days. They appear to a lot out of their pipeline, do you think there be much more soccer in Donegal that Kerry? I was thinking 50/50 in Dgal and while 'The Gaelic' as they call it has gathered momentum since Jim McGuinness I'd be thinking that soccer might shade it; do better footballers take the soccer route in the hope of a professional career?

They gave us a right challenge last year in Croker and and they would relish a shot at The Dubs.

[Mickmack]

Ballyhale by 3 points. A great club that lost a young player Eugene Aylward in a car crash a few months.

[Mickmack]

2 points each at half time.

Kilcoo in the game from the get go.

Kilcoo are defending in numbers and Corofin are finding it hard to break them down. Those who like open football with naive defending wont like this game.

Personally i find it fascinating.

Likely result.... 10 points for Corofin and 6 to Kilcoo.

Kilcoo likely to run out of steam towards the end.

[Mickmack]

Finished 7 points each at full time. Engrossing stuff.

Will they both start with 15 now in extra time?

Did the ref move the last free forward?

Kilcoo must be one of the bravest small clubs ever!

[sullyschoice]

Ref moved it forward correctly.

[Mickmack]

Jan 19, 2020 17:36:26 GMT sullyschoice said:

Ref moved it forward correctly.

for what

[sullyschoice]

Interference after free was awarded

[kerrygold]

They need to look at refs and time keeping. Lane contrived to pull this one out to 70 mins! Time was up when the Kilcoo keeper kicked the ball out over the sideline!

[Mickmack]

The bit of a row was what Corofin needs to flick the switch. Great team.

[peanuts]

Jan 19, 2020 18:52:50 GMT kerrygold said:

They need to look at refs and time keeping. Lane contrived to pull this one out to 70 mins! Time was up when the Kilcoo keeper kicked the ball out over the sideline!

There was a minute of added time left when the ball went over the side line and I doubt if the ball was in play for a minute afterwards. I thought Lane was correct especially given the cynicism of Corofin in the last 10 minutes. Something really needs to be done to prevent this type of play at the end of games.

[kerryexile]

To be honest I thought it was yet another case of an Ulster tean bringing the opposition down to a lower standard. Corofin have slipped a little bit but they were by far the more positive and justice was done in the end.. 

[sullyschoice]

Conor Lane was right in his time keeping. Plenty of stoppages in injury time and he obviously stopped the watch each time. I was involved in a Div 1 championship final recently where an opposition player dislocated their knee. Ref stopped watch for duration of injury. Played 7 minutes over and we won by a point with a goal at the death. Opposition went mad...too bad.

[Ballyfireside]

If much of the difference between club an county players is anticipating what will happen next, it would be interesting to run the slide rule over the advanced stages of the AI Club Championships -the hurling was interesting in this respect!

[kerrygold]

Stop watch & hooter system would be more transparent. Better football team won here. Makes perfect sense not to be dragging these finals out for another 2 months. The semi finals were better this year with the shorter break. The better players can now look towards their county teams & NFH/L.

[Mickmack]

[Mickmack]

It will be hard to beat that in 2020.

The final three scores fron play were just brilliant.

[jackiel]

Very disappointed with yesterday's display, glad I wasn't paying in. Expect a lot better next Saturday.

[Donegalshannonranger]

Jan 19, 2020 14:14:51 GMT Ballyfireside said:

Jan 18, 2020 20:44:03 GMT Donegalshannonranger said:

I've driven too many times to remember through Galway on the way to North Kerry. When you leave Tuam you cross a bridge at Claretuam, Corofin begins here, go a mile out the road you see a sign for Belclare village go out here another two miles you are in Caherlistrane GAA, if you continued on the N17 to Claregalway after three miles you see the sign for Corofin village. I ventured down to find one shop, one church and a football pitch with a small stand and no club house with two or three small housing developments before the village. Apparently if you go through the village four miles you are in Killerin GAA and Padraig Joyce county. If you continue on the N17 three miles past the Corofin turn off you are in Annaghdown GAA. It is not big, but they are doing something right, Tralee is massive with a big population but they wouldn't match them or in my home county of Donegal St Eunans have a pick of 15k and wouldn't lace their boots.

Hello my fellow Donegal Kingdomer, maybe I should be Kerryswillyrover? Have you an address of that specific fanzone page with club maps?

Bit of a decision next Sat - Ballybofey or Croker?

Be jazus but ya better watch what you say re St Eunans or you'll get us all into trouble, they are a strong club with good enough representation on the current county panel, though it is early days. They appear to a lot out of their pipeline, do you think there be much more soccer in Donegal that Kerry? I was thinking 50/50 in Dgal and while 'The Gaelic' as they call it has gathered momentum since Jim McGuinness I'd be thinking that soccer might shade it; do better footballers take the soccer route in the hope of a professional career?

They gave us a right challenge last year in Croker and and they would relish a shot at The Dubs.

Look for @gaafanzone on twitter. A good few counties mapped.

North Donegal a soccer zone till the All Ireland in 1992, Inishowen and Fanad in particular. Most county titles south of the gap with the exception of Gaoth Dobhair. The major powers been Kilcar, Naomh Columba, Aodh Ruadh, Killybegs and to a lesser extent Four Masters.

Letterkenny only a small player in Donegal football till the late 90's. But they've never produced in Ulster. St. Eunans are a typical big town team, never keep young players bring in Cops, teachers and civil servants working in the town or taking players from local town, Brendan Devanney been an example.

Ballybofey next Saturday without a doubt. Mayo turned us over last Summer but we had loads missing or injured during the game, Neil McGee (just before the game), Ban(broken leg), Gillespie (cruciate), McNeilis(unavailable), McBreaty at 80%
Jadon McGee (during the game and still injured) and McGrath(cruciate during the game).

[Ballyfireside]

Jan 20, 2020 16:39:50 GMT Donegalshannonranger said:

Jan 19, 2020 14:14:51 GMT Ballyfireside said:

Hello my fellow Donegal Kingdomer, maybe I should be Kerryswillyrover? Have you an address of that specific fanzone page with club maps?

Bit of a decision next Sat - Ballybofey or Croker?

Be jazus but ya better watch what you say re St Eunans or you'll get us all into trouble, they are a strong club with good enough representation on the current county panel, though it is early days. They appear to a lot out of their pipeline, do you think there be much more soccer in Donegal that Kerry? I was thinking 50/50 in Dgal and while 'The Gaelic' as they call it has gathered momentum since Jim McGuinness I'd be thinking that soccer might shade it; do better footballers take the soccer route in the hope of a professional career?

They gave us a right challenge last year in Croker and and they would relish a shot at The Dubs.

Look for @gaafanzone on twitter. A good few counties mapped.

North Donegal a soccer zone till the All Ireland in 1992, Inishowen and Fanad in particular. Most county titles south of the gap with the exception of Gaoth Dobhair. The major powers been Kilcar, Naomh Columba, Aodh Ruadh, Killybegs and to a lesser extent Four Masters.

Letterkenny only a small player in Donegal football till the late 90's. But they've never produced in Ulster. St. Eunans are a typical big town team, never keep young players bring in Cops, teachers and civil servants working in the town or taking players from local town, Brendan Devanney been an example.

Ballybofey next Saturday without a doubt. Mayo turned us over last Summer but we had loads missing or injured during the game, Neil McGee (just before the game), Ban(broken leg), Gillespie (cruciate), McNeilis(unavailable), McBreaty at 80%
Jadon McGee (during the game and still injured) and McGrath(cruciate during the game).

Ah here was thinkin u waz wan of our own. Still that's interesting analysis though whatever I'll say I'll say nothing re Eunans, though I wonder why you say they don't keep young players, plenty on the early county panel right now. The Gaels would be the blow-ins and nice to see them progressing.

I'll regale a story re a Fanad man who on returning home from his 1st year in Galway boarding school at xMas back around the 50s , told his pals that 'they play football down there but you can handle the ball' -in other words they had never seen 'The Gaelic', let alone played it!

Ah Devenney was just like Kennelly's in Listowel, hard to blame 'em and Kerry may not have won all those AIs if Tim had stayed with his Junior Clounmacon Club. I know Taghgeen's grandfather Mickey enrolled him with Clounmacon but maybe goodwill was at play, he lived in Listowel.

I am warning Kerry that The Dubs mightn't be the most major obstacle this year and I couldn't have said it better than you did above. I always wished for a green 'n' gold AI final, then I got it, ah Dgal took it well and which is hardly surprising as it is such a sports orientated county, it's a bloody playground, and yes, often bloody!

Murphy is a bigger than big influence and so the worry of over reliance, but what can you do, better than not having him and I sense 'a player manager' factor and which is no bad thing. Oisin Gallen is star in the making and together with Spud, and the likes of Paddy McB and Jamie Brennan constitutes a serious attack by any standards. With 100% sincerity I see Dgal as a permanent top tier for next decade -the challenge was to funnel the exceptional creative spirit into energy and that they have done under Jim McG and Spud has managed to maintain it, a bit like Kerry maintaining the standards set by GO'D (i.e. Dwyer) back in the day.

Do Dgal have a forum?

[Donegalshannonranger]

No Donegal forum other than high stool, down the town or The Democrat.

[diego]

All the best to Na Gaeil for their big day in Croke Park today. Hopefully first part of a Kerry double.

Throw-in is at 3.15pm. Live on the TG4 YouTube channel -

[dc84]

Best of luck to na gaeil

[southward]

Na Gaeil are doing their best to kick this away. I make that about 7 wides to nil after 24 mins.

[southward]

Na Gaeil up 1-8 to 1-4 at HT. Stepped it up in the last 10 mins only to concede a terrible penalty at the death. Defence looks very soft altogether. Complacency could be a killer here yet.

[southward]

Great start to the 2nd half: 1-4 without reply. Much better!