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Post by wideball on Nov 1, 2019 20:45:17 GMT
Brian Howard shoe horned into centre back
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 1, 2019 21:48:08 GMT
Cluxton most influential player of the last 25 years, fully merited All-Star & player of the year this year. Fenton & Mannion lucky this year to get one. The Kerry landscape would be barren without DC & SOS.
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Post by fitz on Nov 1, 2019 23:28:42 GMT
Stephen O’Brien was one of the most consistent players all year, multiple motm performances. Very very hard done not to be included. Shocking in fact. Fenton did very little to merit his award, but there was a dearth of quality in midfield this year.
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Post by southward on Nov 1, 2019 23:33:44 GMT
Stephen O’Brien was one of the most consistent players all year, multiple motm performances. Very very hard done not to be included. Shocking in fact. Fenton did very little to merit his award, but there was a dearth of quality in midfield this year. Seeing as Howard was picked at CHB and Mannion at 10, why not O'Brien at midfield? The truth of it is that Fenton is a golden boy and SOB isn't. |
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Post by sullyschoice on Nov 1, 2019 23:56:39 GMT
Lads, dont get worked up over the All Stars. You will never keep everyone happy.
Cluxton got POTY ahead of Jack Mc Caffrey on sentiment alone. Having said that he should have a bag of All Stars but doesn't, probably because he doesn't play the media game.
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Post by fivenarow on Nov 2, 2019 0:18:30 GMT
Lads, dont get worked up over the All Stars. You will never keep everyone happy. Cluxton got POTY ahead of Jack Mc Caffrey on sentiment alone. Having said that he should have a bag of All Stars but doesn't, probably because he doesn't play the media game. 100% on cluxton, was robbed of all stars on a number of occasions. Stephen O Brien was very unlucky not to win one but just look at it, Seamus Moynihan only has 3 & was undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the land for the bones of 10 years when kerry were winning All Ireland’s. I wouldn’t get caught up in it but I’d say lads would love to have one all the same. Well done BTW to our 4 lads that did win one. |
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Post by Leathama on Nov 2, 2019 9:17:38 GMT
Delighted for Sean O Shea, collecting both Young Player of the Year award and All Star. He was incredible from January right through to September.
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 2, 2019 9:55:02 GMT
Lads, dont get worked up over the All Stars. You will never keep everyone happy. Cluxton got POTY ahead of Jack Mc Caffrey on sentiment alone. Having said that he should have a bag of All Stars but doesn't, probably because he doesn't play the media game. 100% on cluxton, was robbed of all stars on a number of occasions. Stephen O Brien was very unlucky not to win one but just look at it, Seamus Moynihan only has 3 & was undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the land for the bones of 10 years when kerry were winning All Ireland’s. I wouldn’t get caught up in it but I’d say lads would love to have one all the same. Well done BTW to our 4 lads that did win one. No player has been more hard done by as regards all star awards in last 4 years than Cluxton. Its a bit of diversion but no more than that. Any time you have a committee you will end up with a quare lookin camel |
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Post by greengold35 on Nov 2, 2019 10:05:45 GMT
Stephen O’Brien was one of the most consistent players all year, multiple motm performances. Very very hard done not to be included. Shocking in fact. Fenton did very little to merit his award, but there was a dearth of quality in midfield this year. Fully agree on O’Brien - Murphy to midfield to the exclusion of Fenton should have been the call - equally if Mannion cannot make it @ 13, then he should not have been picked @ 10. |
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 2, 2019 10:10:12 GMT
It would be un-PC not to have Fenton @ "8" on an All-Star team in a 5 in a row year.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Nov 2, 2019 10:22:10 GMT
Stephen O’Brien was one of the most consistent players all year, multiple motm performances. Very very hard done not to be included. Shocking in fact. Fenton did very little to merit his award, but there was a dearth of quality in midfield this year. Fully agree on O’Brien - Murphy to midfield to the exclusion of Fenton should have been the call - equally if Mannion cannot make it @ 13, then he should not have been picked @ 10. Watching it I thought yeah Fenton probably an All Star against the opposition - but not against Murphy or even Howard. Fenton might have lost it for the same reason O'Brien did. |
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Post by yourholiness on Nov 2, 2019 10:26:09 GMT
I get why it happens but the shoehorning of players into positions that they weren’t nominated in , never mind played in , undermines the All Stars for me . The committee in trying to please everyone , aggravates everyone .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 11:14:55 GMT
The whole thing is a nonsense given the lack of any clearly defined criteria for selection.
It is just glorified pub talk.
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Post by hurlingman on Nov 2, 2019 12:08:44 GMT
Stephen O’Brien was one of the most consistent players all year, multiple motm performances. Very very hard done not to be included. Shocking in fact. Fenton did very little to merit his award, but there was a dearth of quality in midfield this year. Seeing as Howard was picked at CHB and Mannion at 10, why not O'Brien at midfield? The truth of it is that Fenton is a golden boy and SOB isn't.Have there ever been more of a golden boy then him? Seems no one can say a word againest him |
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 2, 2019 18:31:10 GMT
Fenton had a great second half against Mayo when the game need him.
He had a quiet game first game against Kerry after being marked mainly by David Moran and Jack Barry to a lesser extent. Kerry targeted him and they did a great job.
Second game he was much better , Jack Barry did'nt cause him any concern and David Moran who had a brilliant first game couldn't replicate it in the second game and tired .
Fenton and Moran are the two best midfielders in Ireland at the moment.
Jack Barry could well turn out to be a great midfielder, but its a big difference when you are not the player targeted and can play your own game and no spotlight is on you.
Fenton has been instrumental in Dublin winning 5 in a row , id agree this wasnt his best year , but still came good when we needed him.
Stephen o Brien is unlucky to lose out as is John Small who kept Sean o Shea quiet in the replay.
But really these Allstars are trying to put square pegs in round holes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 20:18:13 GMT
More bullsh*t from you
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 2, 2019 22:15:04 GMT
. Just an opinion . Nice words to use all the same |
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Post by southward on Nov 2, 2019 23:51:13 GMT
Letting the side down there, Kerryguy. Panther has always been a gentleman on here and deserves more respect than that. If you want to rebut his arguments, let's have it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2019 8:16:17 GMT
Letting the side down there, Kerryguy. Panther has always been a gentleman on here and deserves more respect than that. If you want to rebut his arguments, let's have it. Letting the side down , get over yourself. This is an internet forum😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 3, 2019 8:53:07 GMT
Aidan O'Shea & David Moran were probably the two inform midfielders this year throughout the championship.
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Post by clarinman on Nov 3, 2019 9:20:30 GMT
Aidan O'Shea & David Moran were probably the two inform midfielders this year throughout the championship. Aidan O'Shea didn't turn up in Killarney or in the all Ireland semi-final. I would move Murphy to midfield for Fenton, move Howard to half forward line. This frees up a half back spot for John Small or Colm Boyle. I would go for Small. Did a good job on O'Brien in drawn final and on Sean O'Shea in the replay. |
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Post by glengael on Nov 3, 2019 10:54:34 GMT
Well done to the 2 Davids, Tom O'Sullivan and Sean O'Shea. Is that Kenmare's first All Star?
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Post by southward on Nov 3, 2019 10:58:19 GMT
Well done to the 2 Davids, Tom O'Sullivan and Sean O'Shea. Is that Kenmare's first All Star? Mickey Ned. |
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Post by kerrygold on Nov 3, 2019 11:11:02 GMT
Aidan O'Shea & David Moran were probably the two inform midfielders this year throughout the championship. Aidan O'Shea didn't turn up in Killarney or in the all Ireland semi-final. I would move Murphy to midfield for Fenton, move Howard to half forward line. This frees up a half back spot for John Small or Colm Boyle. I would go for Small. Did a good job on O'Brien in drawn final and on Sean O'Shea in the replay. Adian O'Shea played a pile of good football in 2019. |
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Post by Mickmack on Nov 3, 2019 19:36:03 GMT
Fenton had a great second half against Mayo when the game need him. He had a quiet game first game against Kerry after being marked mainly by David Moran and Jack Barry to a lesser extent. Kerry targeted him and they did a great job. Second game he was much better , Jack Barry did'nt cause him any concern and David Moran who had a brilliant first game couldn't replicate it in the second game and tired . Fenton and Moran are the two best midfielders in Ireland at the moment. Jack Barry could well turn out to be a great midfielder, but its a big difference when you are not the player targeted and can play your own game and no spotlight is on you. Fenton has been instrumental in Dublin winning 5 in a row , id agree this wasnt his best year , but still came good when we needed him. Stephen o Brien is unlucky to lose out as is John Small who kept Sean o Shea quiet in the replay. But really these Allstars are trying to put square pegs in round holes Would you agree that Michael Murphy at midfield and Ciaran Kilkenny in the forwards would be a fairer selection based on performances when it mattered. |
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Post by thebluepanther on Nov 3, 2019 23:14:46 GMT
Fenton had a great second half against Mayo when the game need him. He had a quiet game first game against Kerry after being marked mainly by David Moran and Jack Barry to a lesser extent. Kerry targeted him and they did a great job. Second game he was much better , Jack Barry did'nt cause him any concern and David Moran who had a brilliant first game couldn't replicate it in the second game and tired . Fenton and Moran are the two best midfielders in Ireland at the moment. Jack Barry could well turn out to be a great midfielder, but its a big difference when you are not the player targeted and can play your own game and no spotlight is on you. Fenton has been instrumental in Dublin winning 5 in a row , id agree this wasnt his best year , but still came good when we needed him. Stephen o Brien is unlucky to lose out as is John Small who kept Sean o Shea quiet in the replay. But really these Allstars are trying to put square pegs in round holes Would you agree that Michael Murphy at midfield and Ciaran Kilkenny in the forwards would be a fairer selection based on performances when it mattered. I guess the question is what is the criteria for an AllStar . Is it a performance when it matters in a big game , or a collection of performances over the year . Ciaran Kilkenny was very slow for Dublin early in the campaign , had a decent semifinal , poor final but was badly needed near the end of that final and was brilliant in the replay when it mattered , is that enough for an Allstar i guess it depends on the criteria. I could understand either decision . Michael Murphy was half forward and then went in full forward for Donegal against Mayo in Castelbar in their biggest game of the year , he kicked a lot wide that day even Aidan o Shea out muscled him for a few balls , but he was still Donegals most dangerous player this year , I wouldn't be putting him in midfield id say up front is about right. Although with Brian Howard at 6 logic goes out the window. Aidan o Shea had a good year to be fair to him and was very good against Donegal but against Kerry for parts and second half against Dublin he disappeared . So for me its still Fenton and Moran in midfield. But i can understand people feeling Murphy in midfield would be a good option. |
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