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Post by dc84 on May 30, 2019 11:20:14 GMT
is Gavin o Brien back in the fold I believe Gavin O'Brien was suspended for 2 weeks and is back in the panel. Gavin White and Paul Murphy are injured. We may see Jack Sherwood at centre back with Gavin Crowley on the wing. I'm not sure we can start David Moran given how little football he has played. We could be in trouble midfield against one of the strongest county midfields out there. I'd play o Connor at 12 with sob in a withdrawn no 15 role he played during the league with JOD missing out. If Moran isn't ready I'd got with spillage or t.walsh we don't have much else
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Post by tonydorigo on May 30, 2019 11:26:28 GMT
I believe Gavin O'Brien was suspended for 2 weeks and is back in the panel. Gavin White and Paul Murphy are injured. We may see Jack Sherwood at centre back with Gavin Crowley on the wing. I'm not sure we can start David Moran given how little football he has played. We could be in trouble midfield against one of the strongest county midfields out there. I'd play o Connor at 12 with sob in a withdrawn no 15 role he played during the league with JOD missing out. If Moran isn't ready I'd got with spillage or t.walsh we don't have much else Could be the right option given that we have struggled against Brennan and O'Connor when we had Moran and Maher in midfield not to mind Jack Barry. Would love to see Tommy being able for midfield but obviously mobility might be a concern.
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Post by dc84 on May 30, 2019 12:02:14 GMT
I'd play o Connor at 12 with sob in a withdrawn no 15 role he played during the league with JOD missing out. If Moran isn't ready I'd got with spillage or t.walsh we don't have much else Could be the right option given that we have struggled against Brennan and O'Connor when we had Moran and Maher in midfield not to mind Jack Barry. Would love to see Tommy being able for midfield but obviously mobility might be a concern. We should in all honesty still be beating clare even if we lose midfield we are better than them by far everywhere else. I wouldn't suggest Tommy in there against a div 1 team but he could do a job saturday
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Post by Whosinmidfield on May 30, 2019 12:13:14 GMT
Team I'd go with:
1.Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Tom O'Sullivan 5. Paul Murphy 6. Jack Sherwood 7. Gavin White 8. David Moran 9. Jack Barry 10. Gavin O'Brien 11. Sean O'Shea 12. Dara Moynihan 13. David Clifford 14. Paul Geaney 15. Stephen O'Brien
Gavin White and Paul Murphy are both training fully so both will be available. It will be a very tight selection call between White and Gavin Crowley but I would go for the Crokes man. I think this is our best team available for the championship. I think Morley at full back and Sherwood at centre back is a good spine of the defence. Moran and Barry are our 2 best options for the middle of the park. We will have to hope one of Diarmuid O'Connor, Adrian Spillane or Tommy Walsh could do a job there from the bench, depending on the type of game and whether we're winning or losing.
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Post by pillar on May 30, 2019 14:22:30 GMT
Kerry trained last night for the first time this year in Fitzgerald Stadium and the gates were opened .
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Post by dc84 on May 30, 2019 16:16:05 GMT
Kerry trained last night for the first time this year in Fitzgerald Stadium and the gates were opened . I hope he keeps this up every now and again I totally understand why they were closed previously in this day and age. But it seems to mean a lot to some people I don't really understand it myself but from a pr point of view it's good
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Post by Annascaultilidie on May 30, 2019 16:42:01 GMT
I'd play o Connor at 12 with sob in a withdrawn no 15 role he played during the league with JOD missing out. If Moran isn't ready I'd got with spillage or t.walsh we don't have much else Could be the right option given that we have struggled against Brennan and O'Connor when we had Moran and Maher in midfield not to mind Jack Barry. Would love to see Tommy being able for midfield but obviously mobility might be a concern. I don't recall Kerry ever having any problem with Clare's midfield.
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Post by taggert on May 30, 2019 16:42:36 GMT
Team I'd go with: 1.Shane Ryan 2. Jason Foley 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Tom O'Sullivan 5. Paul Murphy 6. Jack Sherwood 7. Gavin White 8. David Moran 9. Jack Barry 10. Gavin O'Brien 11. Sean O'Shea 12. Dara Moynihan 13. David Clifford 14. Paul Geaney 15. Stephen O'Brien Gavin White and Paul Murphy are both training fully so both will be available. It will be a very tight selection call between White and Gavin Crowley but I would go for the Crokes man. I think this is our best team available for the championship. I think Morley at full back and Sherwood at centre back is a good spine of the defence. Moran and Barry are our 2 best options for the middle of the park. We will have to hope one of Diarmuid O'Connor, Adrian Spillane or Tommy Walsh could do a job there from the bench, depending on the type of game and whether we're winning or losing. Woukd agree that this is our best starting 15. I think this league proved that neither Spillane is an option and dont think either should even be on the bench.
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Post by clarinman on May 30, 2019 18:36:35 GMT
Could be the right option given that we have struggled against Brennan and O'Connor when we had Moran and Maher in midfield not to mind Jack Barry. Would love to see Tommy being able for midfield but obviously mobility might be a concern. I don't recall Kerry ever having any problem with Clare's midfield. We were overrun in midfield for much of the game in Ennis 2 years ago. We were a point down early in the 2nd half when Clare hit the crossbar. We were in big trouble if that shot ended in the net.
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Post by peanuts on May 30, 2019 19:11:18 GMT
Team named
Ryan Foley O’Sullivan Crowley Sherwood Enright Moran Spillane O’Connor O’Shea O’Brien Clifford Geaney O’Donoghue
Barry and Murphy injured I assume.
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Post by ballhopper34 on May 30, 2019 19:12:18 GMT
The Kerry team to play Clare in the Munster Senior Football Championship Semi-Final on Saturday 1st June at 7pm in Cusack Park, Ennis is as follows:
Shane Ryan Seán Ó Riain Rathmore
Jason Foley Iasún Ó Foghlú Ballydonoghue Tadhg Morley Tadhg Ó Muraile Templenoe Tom O'Sullivan Tomás Ó Súilleabháin Dingle
Gavin Crowley Gabhin Ó Crualaidh Templenoe Jack Sherwood Seán Ó Sherwood Firies Shane Enright Sean Mac Ionrachtaigh Tarbert
David Moran Dáithí Ó Moráin Kerins O'Rahillys Adrian Spillane Aidrian Ó Spealáin Templenoe
Diarmuid O'Connor Diarmuid Ó Conchúir Na Gaeil Sean O'Shea Seán Ó Sé Kenmare Stephen O'Brien Stiofán Ó Briain Kenmare
David Clifford Dáithí Ó Clumháin Fossa Paul Geaney Pól Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle James O'Donoghue Séamus Ó Donnchú Killarney Legion
Brian Kelly Brian Ó Ceallaigh Killarney Legion Mark Griffin Marc Ó Grifín St Michaels/Foilmore Brian Ó Beaglaíoch Briain Ó Beaglaíoch An Ghaeltacht Michael Geaney Micheál Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle Graham O'Sullivan Graeme Ó Súilleabháin Piarsaigh na Dromoda Tommy Walsh Tomás Breathnach Kerins O'Rahillys Jonathan Lyne Ionatán Ó Leighin Killarney Legion Micheál Burns Micheál Ó Beirn Dr. Crokes Robert Wharton Roibeárd Ó Wartón Renard Conor Geaney Conchúir Ó Geibheannaigh Dingle Gavin White Gabhin de Faoite Dr Crokes
Team Officials Bainisteoir Peter Keane (St Mary's)
Maor Fóirne / Roghnóir (1) Tommy Griffin (Dingle) Roghnóir (2) Donie Buckley (Castleisland Desmonds) Roghnóir (3) James Foley (Kilcummin) Roghnóir (4) Maurice Fitzgerald (St Mary's)
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Post by southward on May 30, 2019 19:14:23 GMT
I don't recall Kerry ever having any problem with Clare's midfield. We were overrun in midfield for much of the game in Ennis 2 years ago. We were a point down early in the 2nd half when Clare hit the crossbar. We were in big trouble if that shot ended in the net. Star came on for the second half at midfield and nullified Gary Brennan, who had been lording it. Made a big difference that day.
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Post by southward on May 30, 2019 19:16:30 GMT
Team named Ryan Foley O’Sullivan Crowley Sherwood Enright Moran Spillane O’Connor O’Shea O’Brien Clifford Geaney O’Donoghue Barry and Murphy injured I assume. O'Sullivan to swap with Enright, surely.
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Post by Whosinmidfield on May 30, 2019 19:25:30 GMT
Team named Ryan Foley O’Sullivan Crowley Sherwood Enright Moran Spillane O’Connor O’Shea O’Brien Clifford Geaney O’Donoghue Barry and Murphy injured I assume. O'Sullivan to swap with Enright, surely. I'd say they will. But in future games I think O'Sullivan will be in the corner when White and Murphy are fully fit. Interesting to see us going with all 3 of Clifford, Geaney and O'Donoghue. No Moynihan, Gavin O'Brien, Young, Barry or Murphy. Barry and Murphy are injured but are the other 3 just unselected for the 26 even with a few missing?
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Post by greengold35 on May 30, 2019 19:31:15 GMT
Team named Ryan Foley O’Sullivan Crowley Sherwood Enright Moran Spillane O’Connor O’Shea O’Brien Clifford Geaney O’Donoghue Barry and Murphy injured I assume. O'Sullivan to swap with Enright, surely. Think that Kerry will set up similar to the way we set up vs Galway in Tuam in the league - Clare will play 12/13 behind the ball and think that Enright will play a roving role around the middle - was effective that day.
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Post by Attacking Wing Back on May 30, 2019 21:21:03 GMT
Looking at that team and especially the bench I think we would be doing well to make the semis this year.
I remain to be convinced but, when Murphy left the panel he's the only realistic option.
I get the logic of tom Sullivan at corner back. If we see him as a possible man marker for later in the championship we might as well let him play there. Glad to see Foley in the corner as he is not a full back yet.
Morely and Sherwood position makes more sense to me as well with both in what I consider to be there best positions. Enright I presume will drop to the bench later on when Murphy is back. But he is probably our next placed defender at the moment given peter Crowley is out as well.
Disappointed about Dara Moynihan and Gavin O'Brien being dropped. We say this nearly every game but JOD needs to produce. Bench looks limited enough to be honest. Not much scoring power of we need it. Only TW and Gavin white you could class as game changers
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Post by greengold35 on May 30, 2019 21:33:32 GMT
Looking at that team and especially the bench I think we would be doing well to make the semis this year. I remain to be convinced but, when Murphy left the panel he's the only realistic option. I get the logic of tom Sullivan at corner back. If we see him as a possible man marker for later in the championship we might as well let him play there. Glad to see Foley in the corner as he is not a full back yet. Morely and Sherwood position makes more sense to me as well with both in what I consider to be there best positions. Enright I presume will drop to the bench later on when Murphy is back. But he is probably our next placed defender at the moment given peter Crowley is out as well. Disappointed about Dara Moynihan and Gavin O'Brien being dropped. We say this nearly every game but JOD needs to produce. Bench looks limited enough to be honest. Not much scoring power of we need it. Only TW and Gavin white you could class as game changers Dara Moynihan was injured going into the league final and has been out since - he is only back training a short while so should be back in the reckoning for the Munster final.
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Post by southward on May 30, 2019 21:54:25 GMT
Looking at that team and especially the bench I think we would be doing well to make the semis this year. I remain to be convinced but, when Murphy left the panel he's the only realistic option. I get the logic of tom Sullivan at corner back. If we see him as a possible man marker for later in the championship we might as well let him play there. Glad to see Foley in the corner as he is not a full back yet. Morely and Sherwood position makes more sense to me as well with both in what I consider to be there best positions. Enright I presume will drop to the bench later on when Murphy is back. But he is probably our next placed defender at the moment given peter Crowley is out as well. Disappointed about Dara Moynihan and Gavin O'Brien being dropped. We say this nearly every game but JOD needs to produce. Bench looks limited enough to be honest. Not much scoring power of we need it. Only TW and Gavin white you could class as game changers I think keeping O'Sullivan as a man-marker would be a waste tbh. Not that a good man-marker isn't invaluable but he looks like he can offer a lot going forward.
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Post by Hicser on May 30, 2019 22:24:38 GMT
I have to say I’m quite optimistic with this team. I think there is a good balance to it. I really want us to put Clare to the sword and see our central defense very solid. The midfield partnership is interesting to say the least, hopefully we’ll get a good test there,
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Post by Deise Exile on May 31, 2019 2:12:44 GMT
I have to say I’m quite optimistic with this team. I think there is a good balance to it. I really want us to put Clare to the sword and see our central defense very solid. The midfield partnership is interesting to say the least, hopefully we’ll get a good test there, Jesus I really really hope I'm wrong but hard to be optimistic about this team. 7 changes from league final? JOD hasn't performed in a long time. Totally new midfield. Enright's best days behind him and unless playing a sweeper role? I guess we can only hope PK and mgt team have a plan. If EF was still manager and made this selection he'd be slated. I guess with injuries mentioned in some posts here maybe his hands were tied? Maybe the poor performance in league final provoked this team. Hard to be optimistic longterm. Can j Sherwood really be the man to solve our defensive woes
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 5:07:21 GMT
5 of the 7 changes I believe were forced ones.
Only tommy and Graham o Sullivan are tactical ones and tommys is no surprise given the return to fitness of JOD and geaney.
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Post by dc84 on May 31, 2019 7:06:59 GMT
Full back line I agree with if clare as expected play with only 2/3 forwards Tom Sullivan will be bombing forward at will. Enright is an odd enough one unless he is tasked with marking Brennan?
Pity Graham I Sullivan didn't get a chance think he is a good prospect. If white is fit enough for bench you would think he would start also. We should still be winning this handsomely tbf
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Post by royalkerryfan on May 31, 2019 7:11:37 GMT
I cant understand the pessimism of some posters about this team. To me its very exciting, the youngest team i can recall. If that FF line clicks then it will be serious.
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Post by dc84 on May 31, 2019 7:20:19 GMT
Is it first championship starts for ryan,Sherwood spillane,Crowley and o Connor? When you include o Shea,Clifford and o Sullivan in their 2nd years it some turnaround in 2 years. Ten changes from the last time we played in Ennis crazy stuff really
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Post by kerrygold on May 31, 2019 7:27:02 GMT
Looks like the April window has taken a heavy toll?
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Post by buck02 on May 31, 2019 9:01:21 GMT
Is it first championship starts for ryan,Sherwood spillane,Crowley and o Connor? When you include o Shea,Clifford and o Sullivan in their 2nd years it some turnaround in 2 years. Ten changes from the last time we played in Ennis crazy stuff really Was just thinking that. 4 championship debutants this year and was it 7 debutants last year? That is some turnaround and should be taken into account by supporters when it comes to our expectation levels this year.
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Post by pillar on May 31, 2019 9:42:07 GMT
Any mention of who's the captain?
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Post by Fado on May 31, 2019 9:48:57 GMT
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Post by veteran on May 31, 2019 9:52:27 GMT
On paper that is a fairly ragged looking defence and midfield but presumably the hands of management, to an extent, were tied by injuries. The forwards are close to being our best available but the substitute bench does not suggest we will be finishing with our strongest fifteen!
Only the most rabid supporters expects us to win it outright this year. It would seem the best we can hope for is the gaining of experience for a lot of pretenders and the judicious use by management of the best players that are available to us. In that context, I despair when our new management retain and recycle the likes of Mark Griffin, Jonathan Lyne and Michael Geaney. These boys, significant club players, have been tried and tried again and have repeatedly demonstrated that they simply are not senior intercounty footballers. This may seem a brutal assessment but it is the way I see it. Shane Enright has been a reasonably competent corner back in the NFL and in Munster but later in the year in Croke Park at this stage of his career? I wonder.
Conversely, where are the likes of Ronan Shanahan and Gavin O'Brien. Ronan is not in any way flamboyant and will not "bomb forward", rather he is a tight marking, old style defender with a bit of attitude and an edge. He gets full value for any free he concedes. Gavin is raw and green but he made a big impression in the NFL. Of course, it maybe that these lads are injured or not interested but they are the types of guys we should be included rather than lugging around fellows who have been repeatedly tried.
I presume Dara Moynihan and Tomas O'Shea are still injured.
In view of Clare's dismal effort against Waterford one would expect a Kerry victory. But those of us who went to Ennis two years ago have not forgotten that we trailed by a point or two in the second half when Clare crashed one against the crossbar. Had it gone in, with the locals smelling blood, we could have been sent on a tour of the highways and byways of Ireland. This game is ideal territory for Clare playing at home against a lot of Kerry novices. On the other hand, sufficient ball to our forwards could result in mayhem. In any case let us avoid red cards and any further injuries.
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Post by dc84 on May 31, 2019 10:16:49 GMT
Is it first championship starts for ryan,Sherwood spillane,Crowley and o Connor? When you include o Shea,Clifford and o Sullivan in their 2nd years it some turnaround in 2 years. Ten changes from the last time we played in Ennis crazy stuff really Was just thinking that. 4 championship debutants this year and was it 7 debutants last year? That is some turnaround and should be taken into account by supporters when it comes to our expectation levels this year. Totally agree while I think with a full hand we are as good as anyone (except the obvious) the like of Tyrone and Galway are ahead 9f us as teams. As someone who has played on a few different teams at a way lower level admittedly! It can take a while to build that synergy between players ie what sort of ball they like when they are doing dummy runs etc. Anyway come on the kingdom exciting times are ahead!
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