|
Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2019 19:52:50 GMT
A trip to Ennis so.
|
|
|
Post by themanfromthewest on May 12, 2019 0:15:09 GMT
Can’t imagine that this will be anything other than a straightforward win for Kerry.
Looks like it is going to clash with the champions league final? Might be a very small crowd at this one.
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on May 12, 2019 8:24:04 GMT
Poor showing from Clare after spending this season in div 2 of the NFL. Surely they will raise their game for Kerry in Ennis...............
|
|
|
Post by southward on May 12, 2019 9:37:31 GMT
Can’t imagine that this will be anything other than a straightforward win for Kerry. Looks like it is going to clash with the champions league final? Might be a very small crowd at this one. It certainly wasn't straightforward up there 2 years ago. Got a right old scare that day. Lovely little ground they have.
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 13, 2019 16:44:18 GMT
Can’t imagine that this will be anything other than a straightforward win for Kerry. Looks like it is going to clash with the champions league final? Might be a very small crowd at this one. It certainly wasn't straightforward up there 2 years ago. Got a right old scare that day. Lovely little ground they have. Don't think clare are as good as they were then and we are probably better say it will be 6 plus at least
|
|
|
Post by ballhopper34 on May 14, 2019 0:09:52 GMT
Home game for Donie Buckley.
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 14, 2019 11:32:40 GMT
Who do people think will start in defence for this one Peter crowleys injury will make this trickier his strength and experience will be badly missed in th line. Might open the door for enright to get back in?
|
|
tonydorigo
Full Member
yerra you know yourself shur
Posts: 176
|
Post by tonydorigo on May 14, 2019 11:47:06 GMT
Who do people think will start in defence for this one Peter crowleys injury will make this trickier his strength and experience will be badly missed in th line. Might open the door for enright to get back in? Maybe Foley and Graham O'Sullivan in the corners and Morley full back?
|
|
|
Post by themanfromthewest on May 14, 2019 11:56:44 GMT
Who do people think will start in defence for this one Peter crowleys injury will make this trickier his strength and experience will be badly missed in th line. Might open the door for enright to get back in? Foley, Tom O’Sullivan and Enright are three good options for two corner spots. Full back, one of Sherwood or Morley, maybe Foley if they feel he is ready. Half back line I think Gavin Crowley and Paul Murphy are fairly sure to start. They could go a number of ways with that third spot, e.g play Sherwood or Morley at 6 and move Murphy to 7, or play Murphy at 6 and bring in Killian or Brian O’Beaglaoich or Tom O’Sullivan at 7. White is injured but maybe an option later on. We have a lot of players that can play a number of positions so the management have a lot of options when building the defence. I have great hopes for Foley, I know he has been injured but I really hope he nails down one of the spots in the full back line this year. I was also impressed with Tom O’Sullivan at corner back in the closing stages of the league even though wing back is his best and most natural position.
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 14, 2019 17:37:31 GMT
Who do people think will start in defence for this one Peter crowleys injury will make this trickier his strength and experience will be badly missed in th line. Might open the door for enright to get back in? Foley, Tom O’Sullivan and Enright are three good options for two corner spots. Full back, one of Sherwood or Morley, maybe Foley if they feel he is ready. Half back line I think Gavin Crowley and Paul Murphy are fairly sure to start. They could go a number of ways with that third spot, e.g play Sherwood or Morley at 6 and move Murphy to 7, or play Murphy at 6 and bring in Killian or Brian O’Beaglaoich or Tom O’Sullivan at 7. White is injured but maybe an option later on. We have a lot of players that can play a number of positions so the management have a lot of options when building the defence. I have great hopes for Foley, I know he has been injured but I really hope he nails down one of the spots in the full back line this year. I was also impressed with Tom O’Sullivan at corner back in the closing stages of the league even though wing back is his best and most natural position. Jason foley is one of our best defenders couldn't understand why he got so little game time in the league he was good in the final when he came on. As regards the fb line I think we need at least 2 lads in there who would be comfortable playing fullback ie foley/morley/enright think we need Tom Sullivan in the corner As well. Wouldn't like Murphy or killian at 6 tbh they aren't big enough Sherwood Crowley or Morley would be my preference.
|
|
|
Post by themanfromthewest on May 14, 2019 21:10:02 GMT
Foley, Tom O’Sullivan and Enright are three good options for two corner spots. Full back, one of Sherwood or Morley, maybe Foley if they feel he is ready. Half back line I think Gavin Crowley and Paul Murphy are fairly sure to start. They could go a number of ways with that third spot, e.g play Sherwood or Morley at 6 and move Murphy to 7, or play Murphy at 6 and bring in Killian or Brian O’Beaglaoich or Tom O’Sullivan at 7. White is injured but maybe an option later on. We have a lot of players that can play a number of positions so the management have a lot of options when building the defence. I have great hopes for Foley, I know he has been injured but I really hope he nails down one of the spots in the full back line this year. I was also impressed with Tom O’Sullivan at corner back in the closing stages of the league even though wing back is his best and most natural position. Jason foley is one of our best defenders couldn't understand why he got so little game time in the league he was good in the final when he came on. As regards the fb line I think we need at least 2 lads in there who would be comfortable playing fullback ie foley/morley/enright think we need Tom Sullivan in the corner As well. Wouldn't like Murphy or killian at 6 tbh they aren't big enough Sherwood Crowley or Morley would be my preference. Jason Foley missed most of the league while recovering from injury afaik. I’m sure we would have seen a lot more of him otherwise. I fully expect to see him at either 2 or 3 this summer. Paul Murphy played the whole league at 6 and had the jersey at the moment. I agree it may not be his best position at this level. I believe we have good individual players across the back so it’s about getting them playing as a unit now and ensuring they get enough help from midfield and the half forwards. I’m sure that Peter Keane and his advisors will get it right for the summer. Midfield is the worry we really lack depth there behind Barry and Moran. Young Diarmuid O’Connor looks like a cracking player in the making but very young to be asking him to be a key contributor this summer.
|
|
pillar
Senior Member
Posts: 508
|
Post by pillar on May 22, 2019 9:21:04 GMT
Word from UEFA is that the Champions league Final kick off time is changed to 3pm on the Sunday to allow Liverpool and Spurs fans attend the game in Ennis.A very noble gesture!!
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 23, 2019 7:48:32 GMT
Are sexton and tubridy available for clare in this one have it in the back of my mind they are not? Two classy forwards
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on May 23, 2019 8:03:49 GMT
Word from UEFA is that the Champions league Final kick off time is changed to 3pm on the Sunday to allow Liverpool and Spurs fans attend the game in Ennis.A very noble gesture!! A real pity local fixtures clash with some of the great world sporting occasions.
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 23, 2019 8:27:18 GMT
Word from UEFA is that the Champions league Final kick off time is changed to 3pm on the Sunday to allow Liverpool and Spurs fans attend the game in Ennis.A very noble gesture!! A real pity local fixtures clash with some of the great world sporting occasions. Can't really be avoided it's not like it's a clash with an Irish team playing ie euro soccer
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on May 23, 2019 10:29:39 GMT
A real pity local fixtures clash with some of the great world sporting occasions. Can't really be avoided it's not like it's a clash with an Irish team playing ie euro soccer There is a fair whack of Irishness/Irish interest in Liverpool football club.
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 23, 2019 10:49:59 GMT
Can't really be avoided it's not like it's a clash with an Irish team playing ie euro soccer There is a fair whack of Irishness/Irish interest in Liverpool football club. One sub goalie (maybe) is the extent of it! Not getting into the irishness of an English team with one Irish player (sub goalie) maybe involved! Why should the gaa be concerned about a few low profile matches that aren't on tv (as far as I know) clashing with the cl final? If it was a big game I'd agree like for example the league often kicks off same weekend as six nations I think that's poor from a marketing perspective
|
|
|
Post by themanfromthewest on May 23, 2019 11:21:27 GMT
There is a fair whack of Irishness/Irish interest in Liverpool football club. One sub goalie (maybe) is the extent of it! Not getting into the irishness of an English team with one Irish player (sub goalie) maybe involved! Why should the gaa be concerned about a few low profile matches that aren't on tv (as far as I know) clashing with the cl final? If it was a big game I'd agree like for example the league often kicks off same weekend as six nations I think that's poor from a marketing perspective Make no mistake this will effect the attendance. There is huge neutral interest in the CL final never mind all the Liverpool and Tottenham fans that are in both Kerry and Clare. Many will chose to sit at home or in the pub rather than travel.
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 23, 2019 11:40:47 GMT
One sub goalie (maybe) is the extent of it! Not getting into the irishness of an English team with one Irish player (sub goalie) maybe involved! Why should the gaa be concerned about a few low profile matches that aren't on tv (as far as I know) clashing with the cl final? If it was a big game I'd agree like for example the league often kicks off same weekend as six nations I think that's poor from a marketing perspective Make no mistake this will effect the attendance. There is huge neutral interest in the CL final never mind all the Liverpool and Tottenham fans that are in both Kerry and Clare. Many will chose to sit at home or in the pub rather than travel. Oh I have no doubt about the attendance i assume the reason it isn't on before clare tipp on Sunday is they know that will sell out. Should the game be on at 5 or six of course it should and the only rational I can think of for a 7 throw in is that the guards want it at that time for traffic. 2 years ago in Ennis there was 5800 there be interesting to see what the difference is this year. It could be bumped up by all the man Utd and arsenal fans not wanting to watch the soccer!
|
|
|
Post by Annascaultilidie on May 23, 2019 11:57:11 GMT
Are sexton and tubridy available for clare in this one have it in the back of my mind they are not? Two classy forwards I think Sexton is in the USA. Is Tubridy injured?
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 23, 2019 12:13:37 GMT
Are sexton and tubridy available for clare in this one have it in the back of my mind they are not? Two classy forwards I think Sexton is in the USA. Is Tubridy injured? Think he is didn't play vs Waterford, 9 points 6 from play vs a poor div4 team. Could be worse than last year for them....
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on May 23, 2019 12:30:04 GMT
There is a fair whack of Irishness/Irish interest in Liverpool football club. One sub goalie (maybe) is the extent of it! Not getting into the irishness of an English team with one Irish player (sub goalie) maybe involved! Why should the gaa be concerned about a few low profile matches that aren't on tv (as far as I know) clashing with the cl final? If it was a big game I'd agree like for example the league often kicks off same weekend as six nations I think that's poor from a marketing perspective I said Irishness about the club not the current team. People want to watch the top world sporting events. The CLs final is one of those events regardless of who is contesting it. The best players in the world playing in a huge game of football.
|
|
pillar
Senior Member
Posts: 508
|
Post by pillar on May 23, 2019 14:28:09 GMT
One sub goalie (maybe) is the extent of it! Not getting into the irishness of an English team with one Irish player (sub goalie) maybe involved! Why should the gaa be concerned about a few low profile matches that aren't on tv (as far as I know) clashing with the cl final? If it was a big game I'd agree like for example the league often kicks off same weekend as six nations I think that's poor from a marketing perspective Make no mistake this will effect the attendance. There is huge neutral interest in the CL final never mind all the Liverpool and Tottenham fans that are in both Kerry and Clare. Many will chose to sit at home or in the pub rather than travel. I hope the day Kerry are looking to scupper Dublins 5 in a row dreams that those who stay at home from Ennis dont be moaning about not being able to get a ticket and are content at home watching a Super Sunday of Brighton vs Burnley
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 23, 2019 15:12:47 GMT
Make no mistake this will effect the attendance. There is huge neutral interest in the CL final never mind all the Liverpool and Tottenham fans that are in both Kerry and Clare. Many will chose to sit at home or in the pub rather than travel. I hope the day Kerry are looking to scupper Dublins 5 in a row dreams that those who stay at home from Ennis dont be moaning about not being able to get a ticket and are content at home watching a Super Sunday of Brighton vs Burnley I hope I'm at both (and I'm not talking Brighton burnley) haven't been to Ennis in awhile taking the missus to Galway 34 the weekend and sure Ennis is only down the road...
|
|
mandad
Senior Member
Posts: 448
|
Post by mandad on May 28, 2019 10:55:12 GMT
Probably the single most important lesson that we should learn from the League is that our lads just cannot afford to be victims of off the ball grappling. You don't want to get in the face of something two sizes larger than you - they'll pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Avoid the grappling and wrestling on the ground at all costs. That is yellow card territory for both players and unfortunately, referees make no distinction of guilt or innocence in those situations
Those of us, who were in Croke Park in 2017 and again this year, will recall how Mayo dealt with us off the ball. We lost those battles – even at a time when we had big men in the middle.
I’m old enough to remember watching from 'The Hill' in 1975, a young team of fast, well drilled and disciplined footballers take a good Dublin team apart with an uncomplicated running game. I appreciate that what worked 45 years ago may not work today, but I would still like to see us just go at teams with pure, smart and fast football. Is that possible anymore or am I just naïve?
|
|
|
Post by kerrygold on May 28, 2019 12:19:24 GMT
Probably the single most important lesson that we should learn from the League is that our lads just cannot afford to be victims of off the ball grappling. You don't want to get in the face of something two sizes larger than you - they'll pull you down to their level and beat you with experience. Avoid the grappling and wrestling on the ground at all costs. That is yellow card territory for both players and unfortunately, referees make no distinction of guilt or innocence in those situations Those of us, who were in Croke Park in 2017 and again this year, will recall how Mayo dealt with us off the ball. We lost those battles – even at a time when we had big men in the middle. I’m old enough to remember watching from 'The Hill' in 1975, a young team of fast, well drilled and disciplined footballers take a good Dublin team apart with an uncomplicated running game. I appreciate that what worked 45 years ago may not work today, but I would still like to see us just go at teams with pure, smart and fast football. Is that possible anymore or am I just naïve? Micko was an advocate for young fast very fit players first and foremost who also new knew how to play ball. Peter would have access to that particular stable of thought growing up locally so it will be interesting to watch Kerry under him.
|
|
|
Post by dc84 on May 28, 2019 12:46:09 GMT
Probably the single most important lesson that we should learn from the League is that our lads just cannot afford to be victims of off the ball grappling. You don't want to get in the face of something two sizes larger than you - they'll pull you down to their level and beat you with experience. Avoid the grappling and wrestling on the ground at all costs. That is yellow card territory for both players and unfortunately, referees make no distinction of guilt or innocence in those situations Those of us, who were in Croke Park in 2017 and again this year, will recall how Mayo dealt with us off the ball. We lost those battles – even at a time when we had big men in the middle. I’m old enough to remember watching from 'The Hill' in 1975, a young team of fast, well drilled and disciplined footballers take a good Dublin team apart with an uncomplicated running game. I appreciate that what worked 45 years ago may not work today, but I would still like to see us just go at teams with pure, smart and fast football. Is that possible anymore or am I just naïve? Micko was an advocate for young fast very fit players first and foremost who also new knew how to play ball. Peter would have access to that particular stable of thought growing up locally so it will be interesting to watch Kerry under him. Not as easy today with the s&c levels the top teams are at to gain a massive advantage. What we can do though is develop more of a running style combined with the traditional kick passing game we play. The key to that is players moving in tandem at pace we have the players to do it we need more variation in our play, a plan b that isn't just high ball into a big ff.
|
|
tonydorigo
Full Member
yerra you know yourself shur
Posts: 176
|
Post by tonydorigo on May 30, 2019 9:41:59 GMT
Very quiet on here considering we are playing first round on Saturday!!
Any thoughts on teams that people would like to see and who they think will play?
Am hoping for:
1. Shane Ryan 2. Graham O'Sullivan 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Jason Foley 5. Paul Murphy 6. Gavin White 7. Tom O'Sullivan 8. David Moran 9. Jack Barry 10. Dara Moynihan 11. Sean O'Shea 12. Stephen O'Brien 13. David Clifford 14. Paul Geaney 15. James O'Donoghue
Think this would give us some physical presence in the backline with Morley manning a central position as Clare will probably withdraw one forward. Otherwise I'd be worried about the physicality of the backline, especially the half back line. Midfield is nearly our only starting options for midfield for the time being. Forward line might be light at the wing forward positions but bringing in Diarmuid O'Connor and Gavin O'Brien would be a horses for courses approach. Same with Tommy Walsh from the bench.
Thoughts?
|
|
|
Post by Mickmack on May 30, 2019 9:53:14 GMT
Very quiet on here considering we are playing first round on Saturday!! Any thoughts on teams that people would like to see and who they think will play? Am hoping for: 1. Shane Ryan 2. Graham O'Sullivan 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Jason Foley 5. Paul Murphy 6. Gavin White 7. Tom O'Sullivan 8. David Moran 9. Jack Barry 10. Dara Moynihan 11. Sean O'Shea 12. Stephen O'Brien 13. David Clifford 14. Paul Geaney 15. James O'Donoghue Think this would give us some physical presence in the backline with Morley manning a central position as Clare will probably withdraw one forward. Otherwise I'd be worried about the physicality of the backline, especially the half back line. Midfield is nearly our only starting options for midfield for the time being. Forward line might be light at the wing forward positions but bringing in Diarmuid O'Connor and Gavin O'Brien would be a horses for courses approach. Same with Tommy Walsh from the bench. Thoughts? is Gavin o Brien back in the fold
|
|
|
Post by clarinman on May 30, 2019 11:00:54 GMT
Very quiet on here considering we are playing first round on Saturday!! Any thoughts on teams that people would like to see and who they think will play? Am hoping for: 1. Shane Ryan 2. Graham O'Sullivan 3. Tadhg Morley 4. Jason Foley 5. Paul Murphy 6. Gavin White 7. Tom O'Sullivan 8. David Moran 9. Jack Barry 10. Dara Moynihan 11. Sean O'Shea 12. Stephen O'Brien 13. David Clifford 14. Paul Geaney 15. James O'Donoghue Think this would give us some physical presence in the backline with Morley manning a central position as Clare will probably withdraw one forward. Otherwise I'd be worried about the physicality of the backline, especially the half back line. Midfield is nearly our only starting options for midfield for the time being. Forward line might be light at the wing forward positions but bringing in Diarmuid O'Connor and Gavin O'Brien would be a horses for courses approach. Same with Tommy Walsh from the bench. Thoughts? is Gavin o Brien back in the fold I believe Gavin O'Brien was suspended for 2 weeks and is back in the panel. Gavin White and Paul Murphy are injured. We may see Jack Sherwood at centre back with Gavin Crowley on the wing. I'm not sure we can start David Moran given how little football he has played. We could be in trouble midfield against one of the strongest county midfields out there.
|
|