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Post by kerrygold on May 10, 2019 19:03:39 GMT
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Post by kerrygold on May 11, 2019 20:04:02 GMT
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Post by Mickmack on May 11, 2019 23:41:38 GMT
You dont make KK mad in their own back yard and the Maor Foirne for Dublin did that just before half time. TJ still doing the work of 3 men for KK. Some man.
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Post by kerrygold on May 12, 2019 17:59:26 GMT
Serious hurling in the Munster championship today. Makes much of the football championship look like third world stuff. Tipp look to have intent at the moment.
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Post by kerrygold on May 12, 2019 18:01:54 GMT
You dont make KK mad in their own back yard and the Maor Foirne for Dublin did that just before half time. TJ still doing the work of 3 men for KK. Some man. Sounds like Galway were ropey today, Cody will be licking his lips in Leinster.
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Post by Mickmack on May 13, 2019 7:38:54 GMT
Based on evidence so far...
Tipp look united and up for it in 2019. All bar the keeper and the fullback line scored from play. Unbelievable skill as usual.
KK committment is a given but too dependent on TJ
Waterford misfired till the game was gone but Austin Gleeson looks back to 20170 form. Must find consistency.
Clare will make the AI semi final i think but must close out games when ahead better
Dublin will be shell shocked about the second half and next weekends home game with Wexford will define their year.
Galway wont have Joe till July. They will do well to get that far without him.
Cork look like they dont have men to win primary possession and too dependent on Pat Horgan
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Post by onlykerry on May 17, 2019 9:19:11 GMT
Disappointed at the 4 week suspension for Kennedy for interfering in the game - sends out the wrong message and will only encourage another Maor Uisce (or other official) to "take one for the team" in the future. From the pictures it looks to me like there were actually two offences - if he was maor uisce as reported he is supposed to have a distinctive bib which there is no sign of and then he made a potentialy serious intervention in the play by stopping a score. I cannot see how this type of intervention can be taken so lightly - it seems to be a case of shur he is a great guy and only did it instinctively. If it was a less popular (or more polarising person like Paul Galvin or Diarmuid Connolly) the book would thrown at him and he would be (rightly) banned for 12 weeks from all GAA activity.
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Post by Mickmack on May 17, 2019 11:26:41 GMT
Disappointed at the 4 week suspension for Kennedy for interfering in the game - sends out the wrong message and will only encourage another Maor Uisce (or other official) to "take one for the team" in the future. From the pictures it looks to me like there were actually two offences - if he was maor uisce as reported he is supposed to have a distinctive bib which there is no sign of and then he made a potentialy serious intervention in the play by stopping a score. I cannot see how this type of intervention can be taken so lightly - it seems to be a case of shur he is a great guy and only did it instinctively. If it was a less popular (or more polarising person like Paul Galvin or Diarmuid Connolly) the book would thrown at him and he would be (rightly) banned for 12 weeks from all GAA activity. Des Cahills mask slipped big time on TSG "the ref hadnt blown his whistle for the quick free"
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Post by veteran on May 17, 2019 11:48:28 GMT
Anybody who interferes with play should be treated mercilessly. We had the notorious incident of the Armagh maor foirne getting involved with Paul Galvin, we had Davy Fitzgerald getting involved with a Tipperary hurler and now this latest joker. You just could not imagine this happening in rugby or if it did you could be looking at a minimum of a year’s suspension or possibly a life ban.
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Post by sullyschoice on May 17, 2019 14:15:05 GMT
No body should be allowed on the field except to treat injury.
Having said that, if you look at the game, the ref was actually still talking to one been of the players and had his back to the play. Goal wouldn't have stood even if yer man wasnt man marking the Kilkenny forward.
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Post by Mickmack on May 17, 2019 22:26:05 GMT
the air could go out of the hurling round robin balloon on sunday evening if Dublin, Cork and Waterford lose a second game.
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Post by glengael on May 19, 2019 9:52:36 GMT
Some tunrarounds in form needed right enough.
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Post by Mickmack on May 19, 2019 11:10:14 GMT
Davy Fitz is bringing his crew to Parnell Park. I am going to the game and watching Davy with part of the fun. Dublins problem last year was that Paul Ryan missed too many frees. Against KK last week, David Treacy missed too many too which deflates a team.
It amazes me that they don't hand the job to Darragh O'Connell.
He is an expert marksman from the dead ball.
Their season could hinge on converting placed balls.
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Post by Aodhan on May 19, 2019 14:07:38 GMT
Got a laugh from a couple of RTE's live update comments.
"First ruck on the pitch. After a sustained bout of rooting, the free goes Waterford's way".
"Waterford's ruck game is strong. Jamie Barron emerges into space after a bout of rooting in front of the Tipp D and hits a point".
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Post by Mickmack on May 19, 2019 17:40:58 GMT
Davy Fitz is bringing his crew to Parnell Park. I am going to the game and watching Davy with part of the fun. Dublins problem last year was that Paul Ryan missed too many frees. Against KK last week, David Treacy missed too many too which deflates a team. It amazes me that they don't hand the job to Darragh O'Connell. He is an expert marksman from the dead ball. Their season could hinge on converting placed balls. Neither Darragh OConnell nor David Treacy started! Interesting game with both sides taking turns to dominate. Dublin were 5 ahead after 20 mins of the second half and Wexford started to run at Dublin in search of goals. They got 2 and could have had 3. Lee Chin posted a point from the sideline to put his side 3 ahead in injury time. He punched the air in delight as surely Dublin were now beaten. One final push by Dublin yielded a free in about 25 yards out. Moran of Cuala walked up. This is the man who goaled a 21 yards free to snatch a draw for Cuala in the drawn club final of 2018. Cuala won the replay. He repeated the feat to the utter dismay of Wexford. Dublin are away to Carlow and at home to Galway in the final game.
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Post by Mickmack on May 19, 2019 17:46:58 GMT
Limerick must go to Waterford and Waterford will be desperate to stay in the competition.
They have Clare at home after that and that will be ferocious.
What might save Limerick is that by the time they go to Thurles to play Tipp in the final game, Tipp might already be in the final and might play below par.
Cork saved their season today. I saw the second half and they were brilliant.
The round robin in both groups are alive after today. Thats the main thing.
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Post by dc84 on May 20, 2019 8:08:19 GMT
Fair play to cork opened up Munster totally I'd say Waterford are gone at this stage need to beat limericks and cork and even then with the bad score difference would still be gone.
Some cracking matches left tipp look the team to bea5 by a distance but limericks and clare will ask 5hem different questions
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Post by veteran on May 20, 2019 11:20:47 GMT
Limerick looked stuck to the ground in the second half with a particularly toothless forward line. One is reluctant in these times , with every conceivable backup for the top teams, to say that a team looked unfit but a lot of Limerick players were half trotting about with big arses .There may also have been an element of cockiness. A life ending combination.
Tipperary have looked superb in both games but a times there is an overweening arrogance in their play resulting in the concession and in the wasting of easy scores. Later on in the season it could lead to their downfall.
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Post by kerrygold on May 20, 2019 19:21:33 GMT
Ferocious Munster hurling championship. The round robin is beginning to look like a resounding success. An accident of the advent of the Super 8s in football.
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Post by Mickmack on May 20, 2019 21:07:19 GMT
In fairness the round robin was in use a good few years in the Christy Ring Cup and other less hurling competitions at inter county level... but I agree that the round robin in Munster and Leinster was a reaction to the Super 8 in football.
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Post by kerrygold on May 21, 2019 7:28:36 GMT
Hard to know if there is enough quality at the top table to make the Super 8s work in football. In hurling all the counties can beat each other in the championship round robin. This is not true in football in the Super 8s.
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Post by Mickmack on May 21, 2019 7:55:03 GMT
Hard to know if there is enough quality at the top table to make the Super 8s work in football. In hurling all the counties can beat each other in the championship round robin. This is not true in football in the Super 8s. Was there ever 8 challengers in football at the one time. Maybe around 2002 and 2003. But for the most part its been 2 or 3 well ahead of the pack. I would prefer group of 6 where all teams play 5 games and the AI semi finals and final to be between the top 4. The Top 6 would be the league table at the end of the league with the two teams relegated excluded. The two relegated teams would play in a b championship against the top 6 in div 2. You would have serious intetest in a round robin of Kerry, Dublin, Mayo, Galway, Tyrone and Monaghan. Killarney would have 2 or maybe 3 big games as would Castlebar, Omagh, Salthill etc. That would be the nearest version of the round robin in munster hurling
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Post by onlykerry on May 21, 2019 8:39:49 GMT
Hard to know if there is enough quality at the top table to make the Super 8s work in football. In hurling all the counties can beat each other in the championship round robin. This is not true in football in the Super 8s. Was there ever 8 challengers in football at the one time. Maybe around 2002 and 2003. But for the most part its been 2 or 3 well ahead of the pack. I would prefer group of 6 where all teams play 5 games and the AI semi finals and final to be between the top 4. The Top 6 would be the league table at the end of the league with the two teams relegated excluded. The two relegated teams would play in a b championship against the top 6 in div 2. You would have serious intetest in a round robin of Kerry, Dublin, Mayo, Galway, Tyrone and Monaghan. Killarney would have 2 or maybe 3 big games as would Castlebar, Omagh, Salthill etc. That would be the nearest version of the round robin in munster hurling If one looks at the AI football by decade then the past twenty years shows a strong dominance by a few - the noughties only produced 4 different AI winners and this decade is on course to do that again. However the 1990's with 8 different champions was the most open decade in the history of the game. Football is normally typified by the dominance of the few with 8 of the past 13 decades having only 4 or 5 different champions. However if you extend the view to counties making an AI final the norm is about 8 for each decade with a high of 11 in the 90's and this current decade running lowest at 7 (to date). I would argue that these stats support the view that the best team wins but it also works against surprises which championship (knockout) sport normally produces as teams get second chances for much of the competition.
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Post by buck02 on May 21, 2019 13:16:47 GMT
Hard to know if there is enough quality at the top table to make the Super 8s work in football. In hurling all the counties can beat each other in the championship round robin. This is not true in football in the Super 8s. Yes but in the hurling, all teams have the same number of home and away games
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Post by onlykerry on May 21, 2019 13:21:28 GMT
Hard to know if there is enough quality at the top table to make the Super 8s work in football. In hurling all the counties can beat each other in the championship round robin. This is not true in football in the Super 8s. Yes but in the hurling, all teams have the same number of home and away games And Dublin play home games in Parnell Park!!!
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Post by Mickmack on May 21, 2019 15:38:18 GMT
Yes but in the hurling, all teams have the same number of home and away games And Dublin play home games in Parnell Park!!! Wexford had at least half the support on sunday. Not sold out either.
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Post by kerrygold on May 21, 2019 16:07:23 GMT
Hard to know if there is enough quality at the top table to make the Super 8s work in football. In hurling all the counties can beat each other in the championship round robin. This is not true in football in the Super 8s. Yes but in the hurling, all teams have the same number of home and away games Very true, a level playing field...........................
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Post by kerrygold on May 21, 2019 16:08:14 GMT
And Dublin play home games in Parnell Park!!! Wexford had at least half the support on sunday. Not sold out either. Are the bandwagon hoppers in Dublin getting bored?
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Post by kerrygold on May 21, 2019 16:09:26 GMT
Yes but in the hurling, all teams have the same number of home and away games And Dublin play home games in Parnell Park!!! Spring series in Croker, Championship in Parnell Park!
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Post by Mickmack on May 21, 2019 16:19:46 GMT
Wexford had at least half the support on sunday. Not sold out either. Are the bandwagon hoppers in Dublin getting bored? Dublin have a hard core hurling support but it probably numbers less than 5000
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