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Post by The16thMan on Mar 4, 2019 18:55:27 GMT
2 weeks to look ahead to this game, Mayo certainly will be looking to end their run of defeats and be the first team to beat Kerry this year. Hopefully there'll be a few of our other players back such as Clifford & Moran. A win/draw gets us into the final and gives Peter & his panel the opportunity to look at other fringe players for the Roscommon game. It will be a completely different game to any of the others, I wonder if Tommy Walsh starts will Horan put Aidan O'Shea back on him like he did with Donaghy. Regardless of the tactics this promises to be a cracker of a game in the special atmosphere of a Saturday night in Tralee under lights.
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 4, 2019 21:20:46 GMT
Will JOD be back for this? If not, I think his race is ran unfortunately
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 4, 2019 21:26:13 GMT
Will JOD be back for this? If not, I think his race is ran unfortunately Why do you say this?
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Post by peanuts on Mar 4, 2019 21:27:42 GMT
Will JOD be back for this? If not, I think his race is ran unfortunately Why would you say that. That makes no sense to me. O’Donoghue is still young and still a viable option IMHO.
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Mar 4, 2019 21:34:39 GMT
Will JOD be back for this? If not, I think his race is ran unfortunately Lad the inter-county season is hardly a month old. James will be back when he's fit and able.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 4, 2019 21:55:46 GMT
Will JOD be back for this? If not, I think his race is ran unfortunately Lad the inter-county season is hardly a month old. James will be back when he's fit and able. One big plus of our position in the league is that lads can be minded for summer. No need to hurry lads back to battle against relegation.
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 4, 2019 22:42:59 GMT
Will JOD be back for this? If not, I think his race is ran unfortunately Yes JOD hasn't been hitting top form for the last 2/3 seasons but he will still pose a serious threat when fully fit. As far as I'm aware he suffers terribly from shoulder injuries, constant dislocations as far as I know, and has had numerous operations to try repair this which explains why he is always in and out of the team. If he manages to get himself right for summer than he will most definitley be giving Peter a hard decision to make in regards a starting position.
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Post by elephant on Mar 4, 2019 23:05:38 GMT
Don’t for the life of me understand all the hype around JOD. He had one good year and living off that reputation since 2015. IMO he should be moved from the panel. No point having a player who is frequently injured and not performing to standard. People need to throw off the blinkers and call a spade a spade. Will be given another chance by Keane as he worked with him in Legion but one chance is all he will get.
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Post by Fado on Mar 4, 2019 23:42:49 GMT
The key for JOD is full fitness, if he can achieve and sustain, he will have a big part to play.
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Post by dano on Mar 5, 2019 0:32:09 GMT
The way the league has panned out it has been perfect for the recovery of Jameso and David Clifford. when I heard they were both injured at the start of the season I was not optimistic. Now We're a half a game away from the league final without either of them playing a minute. In my opinion, after last year, David is definite starter when he's fully fit. JOD, if he reaches his 2015 form could be the Seamus Darby of 2019 yet!
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Post by wayupnorth on Mar 5, 2019 7:50:00 GMT
The way we’re going at the moment it’s going to be hard for everyone bar probably David Clifford to get into the starting 15. It’s great that we are no longer relying on talented individuals and their level of fitness to win games. We have done this without JoD, Clifford, the Crokes contingent and more recently David Moran and Paul Geaney. Wherever a gap has opened up Peter has found an option to fill it. This is the most heartening part of the 2019 campaign so far as well as our habit of winning which makes the next match as well as the Championship something to look forward to with relish.
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Post by clarinman on Mar 5, 2019 8:19:14 GMT
Don’t for the life of me understand all the hype around JOD. He had one good year and living off that reputation since 2015. IMO he should be moved from the panel. No point having a player who is frequently injured and not performing to standard. People need to throw off the blinkers and call a spade a spade. Will be given another chance by Keane as he worked with him in Legion but one chance is all he will get. One good year? All Star in 2013. All Star and player of the year in 2014. 3 points from play in 2015 all Ireland final. Let's not write him off too quickly.
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Post by dc84 on Mar 5, 2019 8:52:19 GMT
Was at the Dublin Mayo game a lot of the old afflictions around mayo horrendous wides slow build up play etc.
We need to keep the tempo up as high as we can here they arent the fastest around the middle. It will be a good test of our mf and hf lines if keegan is on moynihan be a serious test for the young lad. Who plays 6 will be interesting A O Shea drifts a lot but does need minding enright or griffen maybe?. Like to see foley get a full game will anyone be back i wonder? Need moran for this one imo
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Post by kerryboy83 on Mar 5, 2019 9:59:12 GMT
I for one will not write off JOD either. I just feel we need to see him soon as I think he needs a lot of game time and see where he is at? Just hope he is not injury prone for the rest of his career.
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Post by gamechanger10 on Mar 5, 2019 10:31:09 GMT
Plenty of counties would snap the hand off you for a forward like O Donoghue, I know injuries have plagued him but he has a natural talent and he still has plenty of pace. If he doesn’t make the starting fifteen if fit he will definitely make the bench as he has the Midas touch imo. Eaten bread is soon forgotten and all that,
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Post by tonydorigo on Mar 5, 2019 10:48:50 GMT
Was at the Dublin Mayo game a lot of the old afflictions around mayo horrendous wides slow build up play etc. We need to keep the tempo up as high as we can here they arent the fastest around the middle. It will be a good test of our mf and hf lines if keegan is on moynihan be a serious test for the young lad. Who plays 6 will be interesting A O Shea drifts a lot but does need minding enright or griffen maybe?. Like to see foley get a full game will anyone be back i wonder? Need moran for this one imo Would like to see Gavin Crowley or Tadhg Morley on AOS. Think both have the mobility and strength for the role. We will be well challenged around the midfield area against Mayo so will be a stern test. Ruane doing well and they'll have Diarmuid O'Connor and Seamus O'Shea around there as well. Half forward line will get a good testing from Mayo half back line as well so will be another step in the development of these players like Dara Moynihan and Gavin O'Brien. It's really heartening to see the positivity surrounding this team. Players seem engaged and workrate seems through the roof. We have also had a renewed connect with the fans engaging with the team more that last year. Easy to do when you are winning but even if we had lost some of these games there is a sense that the team is learning from every game rather than last year when we seemed destined to make the same mistakes over and over again. Long may this last and lets hope we make more that one final in croker this year!
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 5, 2019 10:56:48 GMT
Keane has not yet lost a match with the minors nor the Seniors.
A Fenton-esque stat.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 5, 2019 17:08:03 GMT
Keane has not yet lost a match with the minors nor the Seniors. A Fenton-esque stat. I believe he did lose the semi-final of the u-17s the year before last. There was 2 competitions that year.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 5, 2019 17:22:40 GMT
Shhhh. Say nothing
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 5, 2019 17:34:49 GMT
Keane has not yet lost a match with the minors nor the Seniors. A Fenton-esque stat. I believe he did lose the semi-final of the u-17s the year before last. There was 2 competitions that year. Was that the year Clifford was with the minors? Was Peter Keane with the minors and the U-17s that year? I don't know do I count losing in the U-17 - the same year there were U-18 minors - to be honest...
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Post by Kingdomson on Mar 5, 2019 17:49:06 GMT
Plenty of counties would snap the hand off you for a forward like O Donoghue, I know injuries have plagued him but he has a natural talent and he still has plenty of pace. If he doesn’t make the starting fifteen if fit he will definitely make the bench as he has the Midas touch imo. Eaten bread is soon forgotten and all that, Absolutely, and one such forgotten day for obvious reasons was the 2015 All ireland final. In a badly malfunctioning Kerry team, and on a day Kerry scored only 9 points it was JOD who shone brightest of the forwards and scored 3 points from play and was directly involved in the creation of 3 other Kerry scores. Then in an act not for the last time, of self sabotage, the previous Kerry management took JOD off. I wouldn't subsitutute JOD once fit in any game - a deadly striker - you might think his not in game and suddenly he can have 1-2 to his name. He's an excellent team player too and very creative. www.gaa.ie/gaa-now/archive/
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Post by john4 on Mar 5, 2019 17:58:03 GMT
Keane has not yet lost a match with the minors nor the Seniors. A Fenton-esque stat. I believe he did lose the semi-final of the u-17s the year before last. There was 2 competitions that year. Keane Out!
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Post by veteran on Mar 5, 2019 19:35:18 GMT
If my memory is correct, Gavin Crowley had a very successful outing against Aiden O’Shea in Castlebar last Spring.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 5, 2019 22:09:24 GMT
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Post by pillar on Mar 6, 2019 9:38:56 GMT
Will JOD be back for this? If not, I think his race is ran unfortunately Yes JOD hasn't been hitting top form for the last 2/3 seasons but he will still pose a serious threat when fully fit. As far as I'm aware he suffers terribly from shoulder injuries, constant dislocations as far as I know, and has had numerous operations to try repair this which explains why he is always in and out of the team. If he manages to get himself right for summer than he will most definitley be giving Peter a hard decision to make in regards a starting position. The shoulder issues have been long resolved.A familiar pattern seems to be that when he is in full training and game modes there is no issue but when there's a break injuries come.Last couple of seasons the injury has come in winter slog.Maybe he needs to be doing tailored training ,beneficial to corner forwards,like sharpness and speed work.I wouldn't write him off just yet
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Post by egbabroad on Mar 6, 2019 10:59:49 GMT
He may struggle to find his place given the number of options in the forward division, I agree do not write him off yet, look what happened with Tommy Walsh, with everyone writing his obituary
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Post by homerj on Mar 6, 2019 16:24:39 GMT
Keane has not yet lost a match with the minors nor the Seniors. A Fenton-esque stat. I believe he did lose the semi-final of the u-17s the year before last. There was 2 competitions that year. the stat mentions nothing about the 17s, it clearly mentions minors and seniors!
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Post by elephant on Mar 6, 2019 19:25:05 GMT
I hope I’m proved wrong but JOD been living off his reputation for the past 4 years. Seems to be lacking that bit of pace or agility which he used to have and his confidence was totally shot last year. Would find it hard to see him keeping spot on the bench if there is not a big improvement on previous years.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 6, 2019 19:51:51 GMT
I hope I’m proved wrong but JOD been living off his reputation for the past 4 years. Seems to be lacking that bit of pace or agility which he used to have and his confidence was totally shot last year. Would find it hard to see him keeping spot on the bench if there is not a big improvement on previous years. It's called being injured.
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Post by elephant on Mar 6, 2019 21:29:08 GMT
So you are agreeing that he is living off reputation? So he is given a pass because he’s injured? He might have got away with it in the previous regime but can’t see the new management hanging on to him at the expense of new talent.
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