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Post by Leathama on Mar 2, 2019 0:13:39 GMT
I was talking to a fella who was involved with Dublin set-up. He told me there was an incident outside the dressing room at half time in the Dublin game in Tralee where Eoin Murchan got a box in the puss. They are also meant to be very sore about the row after the game where John Small was disrespected. They want to see us in the league final....its all shaping up nicely. I hope it's a long year ahead of us. Strong possibility it was John Small who boxed Murchan
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Post by Seoirse Ui Duic on Mar 2, 2019 0:39:01 GMT
I was talking to a fella who was involved with Dublin set-up. He told me there was an incident outside the dressing room at half time in the Dublin game in Tralee where Eoin Murchan got a box in the puss. They are also meant to be very sore about the row after the game where John Small was disrespected. They want to see us in the league final....its all shaping up nicely. I hope it's a long year ahead of us. Probably pushed himself into a door trying to get out of the way and after the game John Small tried to make up for it, but the Kerry players were having none of it. It was all very harmless, but the Dubs seem to be very sore losers. The same when they got the draw in Tralee or the loss in the league final. They seem to be all about fair play and pretending to be angels when they win, but when they lose the mask slips. Some really nice fellas on that team and obviously some amazing footballers, but also some thugs.
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Post by Mickmack on Mar 2, 2019 13:11:01 GMT
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Post by taibhse on Mar 2, 2019 15:29:02 GMT
Monaghan team:
Rory Beggan; Colin Walshe (Capt.), Drew Wylie, Ryan Wylie; Dessie Mone, Barry Kerr, Karl O’Connell; Darren Hughes, Gavin Doogan; Ryan McAnespie, Jack McCarron, Stephen O’Hanlon; Dermot Malone, Conor McManus, Dessie Ward.
Subs: Shane Garland, John McCarron, Colm Lennon, Vincent Corey, Neil McAdam, Owen Duffy, Shane Carey, Conor McCarthy, Micheál Bannigan, Barry McGinn, David Garland.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 2, 2019 21:59:11 GMT
Is Dessie Mone not a bit past his "best"
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 2, 2019 22:20:26 GMT
Is Dessie Mone not a bit past his "best" He's around a long time alright. Vinny Gorey also hanging in there.
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Post by southward on Mar 3, 2019 9:50:02 GMT
Weather shaping up very poor for today. Cold with lots of rain and possibility of snow (Monaghan will feel right at home). At least it's not windy so far. Wrap up folks!
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Post by baurtregaum on Mar 3, 2019 11:28:04 GMT
Weather shaping up very poor for today. Cold with lots of rain and possibility of snow (Monaghan will feel right at home). At least it's not windy so far. Wrap up folks! Might make a bit of a lottery of the game alright. Hopefully will clear up a bit by afternoon. Worse to try to play hurling today as well.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 3, 2019 13:31:55 GMT
Is Dessie Mone not a bit past his "best" He's around a long time alright. Vinny Gorey also hanging in there. An now be fair to the lad Miserable day here in Killarney, wet sleety/snow been falling all morning and showing no signs of clearing - wrap up well folks and take care on the roads. I was going to head in to the hurlers but have a trace of a sniffle so going to leave it to last minute.
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Post by oldschool on Mar 3, 2019 17:10:08 GMT
Wet and miserable in Killarney. Great win for Kerry. They made hard work of it. Kerry was more than 4pts. a better team. Sean ÓSé had a great game. Also, Tommy Walsh to mention just two. Some baffling refereeing decisions from Paddy Neilan. Backs still a little bit suspect. Was anyone watching Rossies v Dublin?? How did Conor Cox do for Roscommon.?
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 3, 2019 17:17:24 GMT
Wet and miserable in Killarney. Great win for Kerry. They made hard work of it. Kerry was more than 4pts. a better team. Sean ÓSé had a great game. Also, Tommy Walsh to mention just two. Some baffling refereeing decisions from Paddy Neilan. Backs still a little bit suspect. Was anyone watching Rossies v Dublin?? How did Conor Cox do for Roscommon.? Cox one of the Rossies better players, but Roscommon were very poor after half time and went over 30 mins without a score. How is the situation looking in regards a league final place,are we guaranteed a place as only Galway, Dublin or Mayo could match our 10 points but we've beaten Dublin and Galway so will it be on a head to head basis if it ends up being level with 2 teams being tied?
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Post by oldschool on Mar 3, 2019 17:30:43 GMT
Shane Ryan as no 1 goalkeeper.:: He had a shaky moment or two in the 2nd half.
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Post by keane on Mar 3, 2019 17:39:14 GMT
I'm blown away the difference the change in backroom has made. Guys like Enright who barely had a good game since 2015 look reborn.
The attitude, the tackling, guys like O'Brien and Moynihan look like they run up and down the road looking for joggers to tackle for recreation.
It's a big if, but IF we can get our fitness and conditioning back to elite level from the lows we seemed to be at the last two years then anything is possible.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 3, 2019 17:39:59 GMT
Made hard work of it in but are developing a good habit of winning games late on. Lost our way a bit in the second half when we were well on top but very sloppy. Stephen O'Brien made 2 mistakes early on (overcarrying and picked a ball off the ground) but after that I thought he was excellent. Did great covering back in the second half and scored a great point (equaliser I think). Tommy Walsh did well and Sean O' Shea and Paul Murphy as usual. I thought Crowley did very well on McManus. 2 frees given against him could have been given the other way as McManus was pulling him. McManus was very quite in the 2nd half. Graham O'Sullivan did very well when he came on.
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Post by greengold35 on Mar 3, 2019 17:44:29 GMT
I'm blown away the difference the change in backroom has made. Guys like Enright who barely had a good game since 2015 look reborn. The attitude, the tackling, guys like O'Brien and Moynihan look like they run up and down the road looking for joggers to tackle for recreation. It's a big if, but IF we can get our fitness and conditioning back to elite level from the lows we seemed to be at the last two years then anything is possible. There’s no reason we can’t up our fitness levels - training only twice a week at the minute, one indoor & one outdoor session - serious stuff will not start until end of April, after club championships.
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Post by beantownfan on Mar 3, 2019 17:50:23 GMT
I'm blown away the difference the change in backroom has made. Guys like Enright who barely had a good game since 2015 look reborn. The attitude, the tackling, guys like O'Brien and Moynihan look like they run up and down the road looking for joggers to tackle for recreation. It's a big if, but IF we can get our fitness and conditioning back to elite level from the lows we seemed to be at the last two years then anything is possible. I agree 100%.. Kerry's conditioning really showed in the last quarter of the game. Moynihan for a 'small' man forced one of the Monaghan men out over the line to produce a point. Stephen o brien had another great game, covered every blade of grass and no silly fouls. It is early days Keane seems to be much more astute 'in game'. The substitutions work out very well for the most part. What is also noticable is the intensity of the tackle. Conditions today would have made tackling cleanly that bit more difficult but Kerry still came through with top marks. The score definitely flattered Monaghan. There were spells Kerry were well on top. And what a point again by Sean O'Shea from the sideline, Hopefully he stays fit for the year! Shane Ryan still looks shaky at times. I think he has to be #1 choice for the remainder of the league - he needs the bit of experience.
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Post by peanuts on Mar 3, 2019 17:52:00 GMT
I'm blown away the difference the change in backroom has made. Guys like Enright who barely had a good game since 2015 look reborn. The attitude, the tackling, guys like O'Brien and Moynihan look like they run up and down the road looking for joggers to tackle for recreation. It's a big if, but IF we can get our fitness and conditioning back to elite level from the lows we seemed to be at the last two years then anything is possible. There’s no reason we can’t up our fitness levels - training only twice a week at the minute, one indoor & one outdoor session - serious stuff will not start until end of April, after club championships. I'd say we're fitter that most teams at the moment. A serious amount of work was dione over the winter by all accounts.
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Post by themanfromthewest on Mar 3, 2019 17:55:59 GMT
Good result again and lots of positives, the work rate is very very impressive from back to front with everyone playing for their places. Begley and Crowley had a bit of difficulty in the first half on very good players but settled well thereafter.
How many marks did Tommy claim? He was unplayable, and against an excellent full back in Wylie. It’s a pity the mark is gone at the end of the league because Tommy is an absolute weapon around the square. O’Shea was majestic again and is fast becoming our most important player.
If anybody had told me we’d have a 100% record at this stage I’d have laughed at them. Hats off to PK and all the players once again.
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Post by keane on Mar 3, 2019 18:00:43 GMT
There’s no reason we can’t up our fitness levels - training only twice a week at the minute, one indoor & one outdoor session - serious stuff will not start until end of April, after club championships. I'd just be worried that it's too much to ask to get up to the level Dublin are at after years of work. I have this notion that we were a long way behind at the end of last year. As I said, if we can get that aspect nailed we will take some stopping.
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Post by kerrygold on Mar 3, 2019 18:29:53 GMT
Dubs game management still better, don't think we'll have enough key positional players to beat them!
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Post by southward on Mar 3, 2019 18:35:22 GMT
Shane Ryan owes Peter Crowley a few pints after saving him from disaster at the end. Seems to have a problem timing his jump, it's not the first time.
Great resolve in the end but a tired-looking and unconvincing display from Kerry, I thought. Can't agree that Monaghan were flattered by the scoreline; looked for a long time that they were going to be our bogey-team again.
Great display from Tommy - did he get motm? Won 4 marks, I think, but of course that's gone for the championship. Half-back line drove us on in the end, Murphy and Tom Sull in particular. Liking Sherwood this year too. O'Brien was too deep for too much of the game imo but did wreck when in advanced positions. SOS - no more needs to be said about this man but needs a break at this stage.
Referee was shocking.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Mar 3, 2019 18:39:05 GMT
Tommy Walsh's re-emergence is truly heartwarming.
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Post by dano on Mar 3, 2019 18:52:28 GMT
I agree 100% Annascaul. He is improving with every game. We all expected too much from him when he returned. He needed time, he took it and now he's become irreplaceable. pity about the mark rule but he'll be still a danger man up front in the mode of Donaghy. With the return of David Clifford kerry will have a lethal full forward line. I hope they make the League final now and I hope it's v The Dubs.
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Post by Deise Exile on Mar 3, 2019 18:57:55 GMT
Shane Ryan owes Peter Crowley a few pints after saving him from disaster at the end. Seems to have a problem timing his jump, it's not the first time. Great resolve in the end but a tired-looking and unconvincing display from Kerry, I thought. Can't agree that Monaghan were flattered by the scoreline; looked for a long time that they were going to be our bogey-team again. Great display from Tommy - did he get motm? Won 4 marks, I think, but of course that's gone for the championship. Half-back line drove us on in the end, Murphy and Tom Sull in particular. Liking Sherwood this year too. O'Brien was too deep for too much of the game imo but did wreck when in advanced positions. SOS - no more needs to be said about this man but needs a break at this stage. Referee was shocking. I thought gave some extremely soft frees for both teams
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Post by pillar on Mar 3, 2019 19:04:19 GMT
Good result again and lots of positives, the work rate is very very impressive from back to front with everyone playing for their places. Begley and Crowley had a bit of difficulty in the first half on very good players but settled well thereafter. How many marks did Tommy claim? He was unplayable, and against an excellent full back in Wylie. It’s a pity the mark is gone at the end of the league because Tommy is an absolute weapon around the square. O’Shea was majestic again and is fast becoming our most important player. If anybody had told me we’d have a 100% record at this stage I’d have laughed at them. Hats off to PK and all the players once again. A local media outlet ran a poll before the National League and nearly 25% thought Kerry be relegated and only 3% said they'd make a League final. There was an overexaggeration of our status back end of last year.I think it was coloured by a mood in the county but if you look just at results in the past we weren't miles off.We ran Dublin to 2 points in 2016,lost to Mayo in 2017 replay and last year failed by 1 point to make a semi final.Were not as bad as people thought and I've said it before this management team is one that will bring them on no end.We must be positive.
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Post by The16thMan on Mar 3, 2019 19:06:11 GMT
Great determination by Kerry today to keep the heads up and not feel the pressure when 2/3 points down. When you realise the players to come back it looks promising for the year although an AI might be a step too far. Players like White,Clifford,Geaney & Moran just to name a few will add serious quality to the championship panel. However Peter will have to start gelling his best possible team as soon as he can as too many changes can disrupt the team, as we all know from Eamonn. Peter seems like he looks into different aspects of the game to Eamonn already and he's aiming for a younger, more energetic and work hardy type of team to what Eamonn was trying. We certainly will be very competitive this year in my view, and get far in thw championship. However I'm not sure if this team is ready for a Dublin team in the championship at Croke Park but at the same time I think if there is a team to knock Dublin out somewhere down the line that it will be us.
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Post by southward on Mar 3, 2019 19:09:01 GMT
Tommy Walsh's re-emergence is truly heartwarming. Sure is and I'll hold my hand up as one who scoffed at the idea some months back. Sometimes it's nice to be wrong.
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Post by givehimaball on Mar 3, 2019 19:27:25 GMT
1 more point guarantees a final place.
Even if we don't pick up any more points, we are still likely enough to be in the league final as we would need to lose both our 2 remaining games and 2 of the other 3 teams would need to win their remaining 2 games amd we have an advantage on Galway and Mayo in terms of points difference.
Dublin, Mayo and Galway on 6 points are the 3 other teams in the mix for a final place.
Head-to-head comes into play only if there are 2 teams level on points - we have the head-to-head advantage over both Dublin and Galway. However this is actually going to be of no advantage to Kerry, as none of the other 3 teams can get more than 10 points and if there are only 2 teams on 10 points we will qualify on points before head-to-head comes into it.
If it ends up with 3 or 4 teams on 10 points (which could happen given the remaining fixtures) it will come down to score difference.
Currently it is Kerry +13 Dublin +20 Galway -7 Mayo +5
If Kerry lose the remaining 2 games the absolute best our score difference will be is +11 If the other 3 remaining sides win their remaining games at worst their score difference will be Dublin +22 Galway -5 Mayo +7
Our fate is in our own hands in terms of a league final place.
Dublin are our likeliest opponents at the moment in the final as their score difference is a good bit ahead of Mayo and Galway plus they have beaten them both so would come out ahead in a-head-to-head if Dublin and one other team ended up on 8 points.
Kerry are the only team mathematically safe from relegation but the teams in major bother are Monaghan, Cavan and Roscommon and whoever loses the next day between Cavan and Monaghan will be relegated.
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Post by sullyschoice on Mar 3, 2019 20:10:51 GMT
Tommy Walsh's re-emergence is truly heartwarming. Sure is and I'll hold my hand up as one who scoffed at the idea some months back. Sometimes it's nice to be wrong. #metoo
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Post by royalkerryfan on Mar 3, 2019 20:36:06 GMT
Sure is and I'll hold my hand up as one who scoffed at the idea some months back. Sometimes it's nice to be wrong. #metoo Yep im in that bracket too, im delighted to be proven wrong. Tommy was immense today a little bit more work needed on the shooting but that will come. Need to luck after him that hammer needs minding!! Very encouraging today, The resilience the boys are showing is the best part.
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