kot
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Post by kot on Feb 10, 2019 16:05:46 GMT
So he is no longer in management, meaning he is back subjecting us to his drivel on tv. Its nearly a decade since he first really let it be shown how anti-kerry he is by trying to vouch for mcquillans ruling out of donnachas goal against down. He is probably as vindictaive as Brolly but in less aggressive tones. Watched the game back this morning and his commentary throughout was appalling. At one stage Kerry got a free in and at the time he thought it was a free out and said “yes looks like a free out and thats right as the kerry attacker was certainly holding”. Replay shown and it was gavin o brien or geaney with eyes on the ball and 2 hands going for a catch while being held down by the shoulders. Who was “certainly holding” then Kevin? This continued throughout. At the end he remarked when Fitzsimons was about to get his second yellow as the replay was playing showing small headlocking and holding crowley “i think Mick Fitzsimons was totally innocent in all of that”. I honestly dont know how he managed to say this without s*ing into the microphone. Rte need to start weeding out these pundits with clear agendas and get proper analysts in. Its beyond laughable at this stage
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Post by kerrybhoy06 on Feb 10, 2019 17:20:33 GMT
McStay has always been a man who has followed $. He knows who to keep onside
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Post by southward on Feb 10, 2019 17:43:54 GMT
I don't know who's worse - McStay or RTE for continuing to allow him airtime. Used his TSG platfprm to launch a scurrilous attack on Cormac Reilly in the aftermath of Mayo's defeat in 2014. On AI final night that year it was all he could do not to vomit after Kerry's win. Prior to that of course, you had his weekly suspend a Kerryman slot. And so on and so forth, right through to last night.
McStay's persistent bitterness towards Kerry is really quite bizarre. Not sure where it comes from.
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Post by fg on Feb 10, 2019 21:23:17 GMT
There is a psychological condition called post traumatic stress disorder which might explain his reaction to all things Kerry, given all the beatings we have subjected his county to, although one would have thought their victory over us in 2017 might have gone someway to alleviate the symptomology then again maybe its P.M.T.
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Post by southward on Feb 10, 2019 21:32:11 GMT
There is a psychological condition called post traumatic stress disorder which might explain his reaction to all things Kerry, given all the beatings we have subjected his county to, although one would have thought their victory over us in 2017 might have gone someway to alleviate the symptomology then again maybe its P.M.T. Pity Mayo Tension?
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Post by whitefire on Feb 10, 2019 22:51:09 GMT
McStay said on TV that the fracas at the end were started by a Kerry official. Is there any truth in this?.
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Post by Mickmack on Feb 10, 2019 23:03:20 GMT
McStay said on TV that the fracas at the end were started by a Kerry official. Is there any truth in this?. he didnt say that.
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Post by taggert on Feb 10, 2019 23:06:44 GMT
McStay said on TV that the fracas at the end were started by a Kerry official. Is there any truth in this?. The Eir sport co-commentator (Star!) suggested John Small was unhappy and I inferred from that he was involved in the kick off....
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Post by kerryboy83 on Feb 10, 2019 23:26:26 GMT
Does Kevin Mcstay actually deserve s page of his own?the guy is an absolute idiot
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Post by jackiel on Feb 11, 2019 10:13:49 GMT
McStay said on TV that the fracas at the end were started by a Kerry official. Is there any truth in this?. I think he actually meant that it reignited because a Curry official deliberately walked into Niall Scully, watched it on TV last night, not sure that he's correct. His constant jibes against Kerry are tiresome but to be honest I'd probably not waste a thread on him.
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 11, 2019 10:24:26 GMT
Why do we get so bothered by commentators comments, particularly when those same commentators are failures when it comes to putting into practice what they preach. Turn down the sound if they offend you so much, otherwise just treat them for what they are - sad wannabees who have massive personal issues due to their own inadequacies. This applies to that failed former Dublin manager and the other quare fella from way up north also.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2019 10:27:27 GMT
Just to defend McStay a tad.
At least he went into intercounty management.
Mind you so did Tommy "Tom" Carr who is out on his own as the worst of the lot.
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Post by southward on Feb 11, 2019 12:02:42 GMT
Why do we get so bothered by commentators comments, particularly when those same commentators are failures when it comes to putting into practice what they preach. Turn down the sound if they offend you so much, otherwise just treat them for what they are - sad wannabees who have massive personal issues due to their own inadequacies. This applies to that failed former Dublin manager and the other quare fella from way up north also. But sure why do we comment on anything? The likes of McStay need to be called out because their attempts to denigrate Kerry can have a cumulative effect. We've seen it in the past with the likes of JOD being labelled a diver (Brolly) and players being suspended on foot of selective scrutiny (McStay, Des Cahill). Perception can matter when it comes to officials and officialdom and so unfair comment or attacks on our lads should be challenged. The other night McStay claimed Fitzsimons was innocent on the second yellow and insinuated that Crowley set out to get him put off ("he knew what he was doing"), despite the footage clearly showing that Fitzsimons was the instigator. That's unacceptable.
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Post by southward on Feb 11, 2019 12:06:27 GMT
Just to defend McStay a tad. At least he went into intercounty management. Mind you so did Tommy "Tom" Carr who is out on his own as the worst of the lot. He's not as bad as Tommy Carr - now that's what you call being damned with faint praise lol. Mind you, I think McStay is more calculating in his attacks on Kerry. Carr's just a tool.
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Post by onlykerry on Feb 11, 2019 12:15:23 GMT
Why do we get so bothered by commentators comments, particularly when those same commentators are failures when it comes to putting into practice what they preach. Turn down the sound if they offend you so much, otherwise just treat them for what they are - sad wannabees who have massive personal issues due to their own inadequacies. This applies to that failed former Dublin manager and the other quare fella from way up north also. But sure why do we comment on anything? The likes of McStay need to be called out because their attempts to denigrate Kerry can have a cumulative effect. We've seen it in the past with the likes of JOD being labelled a diver (Brolly) and players being suspended on foot of selective scrutiny (McStay, Des Cahill). Perception can matter when it comes to officials and officialdom and so unfair comment or attacks on our lads should be challenged. The other night McStay claimed Fitzsimons was innocent on the second yellow and insinuated that Crowley set out to get him put off ("he knew what he was doing"), despite the footage clearly showing that Fitzsimons was the instigator. That's unacceptable. Comment on anything you want - but understand how the media works. By reacting to idiots comments you make them relevant and therefore valuable to the media who crave attention (attention = €€€€). Ignore them and they become irrelevant and slink away. I understand your frustration and desire to rally to the defence of our team but ultimatley its giving credibility to the idiots. - Mute, Ignore, Switch off are all more potent ways of dealing with them in the longer term. The media is a game in itself and I am simply asking why play with the idiots when we can play with adults who actually think and analyse constructively.
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2019 12:20:40 GMT
There is a quote from the film "We need to talk about Kevin" that might apply...
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Post by glengael on Feb 11, 2019 12:22:52 GMT
There is a quote from the film "We need to talk about Kevin" that might apply... Twas a book before twas a film. You could give us the page number of the quote...
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Post by Sons of Pitches on Feb 11, 2019 12:42:08 GMT
I think a few people are a bit harsh on McStay.
There's a number of worse pundits out there.
Look back at the the 2013 All-Ireland semi-final and the link below and he marvels at our play
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2019 13:15:03 GMT
There is a quote from the film "We need to talk about Kevin" that might apply... Twas a book before twas a film. You could give us the page number of the quote... “In a country that doesn't discriminate between fame and infamy, the latter presents itself as plainly more achievable.”
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Post by dc84 on Feb 11, 2019 15:28:32 GMT
I usually find him ok tbh was very biased on saturday several neutral friends said it to me too. Ger canning is a bigger problem hasnt a clue and is never up to the pace of the game. Darragh moloney is the best at the moment (Besides Tyers from Tg4
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Post by hurlingman on Feb 11, 2019 19:19:07 GMT
It seems Kerry are fair game when it comes to the media. McStay and Brolly at the moment, and to a degree Martin Carney. Going back to the 2000's it was Liam Hayes who seemed to be able to say what he wanted. Yet if anyone from Kerry was to question it there's a backlash.
On another note what ever happened to Liam Hayes? He seems to have disappeared
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Post by Annascaultilidie on Feb 11, 2019 19:40:50 GMT
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Post by southward on Feb 11, 2019 19:42:24 GMT
Damn - my bad. Removing post. Thanks
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